Jeff Fisher and John Fox

[John Kelly]

Two longtime NFL head coaches who enjoyed excellent reputations early in their careers but who clearly held back their franchises later in their careers.

I thought about the two men as I was watching the Sunday Night Football game between the Rams and Bears.

 

[John Kelly]

Both Fisher and Fox are old-school defensive-minded coaches.

Beware of others in the NFL like Fisher and Fox.

 

[John Kelly]

Marvin Lewis and Pete Carroll quickly come to mind.

 

[parlaynow]

Marvin Lewis..a joke.

Fifteen years of nothing..no playoff wins.

Then he brings back genius Hue Jackson.

Pure comedy.

 

[John Kelly]

Lewis hired Hue Jackson as a (WAIT FOR IT) defensive consultant, no less.

You can't make it up.

 

[John Kelly]

I think you want to go with the Rams' current coaching model.

Recruit a young, energetic head coach with an offensive mind (Sean McVay) and a veteran defensive coordinator with a proven record of success (Wade Phillips).

The Bears seem to have a winning combination with Matt Nagy and Vic Fangio.

 

[Polar]

Marvin Lewis and Pete Carroll quickly come to mind.

Carroll has made many, many bad QB's look pretty good in both college and now with Wilson. He's a quarterback guru at this point

 

[John Kelly]

I'll give credit to Carroll for promoting Russell Wilson over Matt Flynn in Wilson's rookie year.

But I never knew Carroll to be an offensive mind.

I don't think Carroll was getting blamed for the worst play call in the history of Seattle's franchise on a goal-line pass play against New England, a play that's been dubbed "Second and Dumb."

The goat was Seattle offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell.

 

[railbird]

Aaron rogers and russel wilson are the 2 best qbs, have been for 5 yrs now

 

[Viejo Dinosaur]

Aaron rogers and russel wilson are the 2 best qbs, have been for 5 yrs now

How many Super Bowls have they won in the last five years?

 

[Inkwell77]

Marvin Lewis has to go!

I just don't know how they have any fans keeping this guy. 16 years and they have not won 1 (one, shoutout to the meatman) playoff game! (and they have not made the playoffs the past 3 years)

Truly amazing he has a job

 

[John Kelly]

Must know where the bodies are buried.

 

[TheGuesser]

Marvin keeps his mouth shut and probably works cheap. That's all that counts in Cinn. It's probably his job as long as he wants it, at this point, although it would be hysterically funny if he stepped down and Hue replaced him next year.
Pete Carroll is a great Coach. Nagy will probably win COY, and it would be hard to argue it, but Carroll might have done a better job. Chicago has the best talent in the League on D, loaded at all 3 levels, and were handed the best or 2nd best D player in the NFL. Carroll has rebuilt Seattle on the fly with a bunch of young players nobody knows.

 

[John Kelly]

Good point about Carroll's outstanding season.

What was Chicago's RSW total before and after acquiring Khalil Mack?

I faintly remember 6.5 sometime this summer.

 

[mrbowling300]

Jim Caldwell may become a head coach again in the NFL next year. Players played for him in Detroit, got a lot out of the team with what they had, that is evident compared to how Matt Patricia handled the same players. Will be interesting to see where he ends up.

 

[SlipperyPete]

Marvin Lewis..a joke.

Fifteen years of nothing..no playoff wins.

Then he brings back genius Hue Jackson.

Pure comedy.

He should have been fired on the spot when bringing up the subject.

GM: You wanna do what???.... You're fired!!!!!