Legendz & Heritage

#1
I have never heard of either of these books until just recently.

They are both solid?

What kind of bonuses are they offering new customers with a $5,000 post up?

The only reason I even consider these these two is becuase they are advertisers for Shrink & General and for whatever reason I have great respect for these two.

Later,
Books Worst Enemy
 
#2
Books Worst Enemy,

These are TWO EXCELLENT books that I'd be willing to INSURE you with 5k of my own money if you sign up with either and use eog as a referral...

Thanks for the TRUST, too

How's that? :trio
 
#3
Worst Enemy Be Carefull He Also Told Me Lenny From Cascade Sportsbook Was An Honorable Guy Then He Stole 660 Dollars From Me.shrink I Am Not Here To Keep Bringing Up Cascade Sportsbook I Am Here To Question Why You Didnt Stand Up To Lenny And Cascade When It Was An Obvious Breaking Of A Sportsbooks Own Rules And You Did Nothing About It.

Hey Enemy Dont Worry About These 2 Books If Shrink Doesnt Insure You The 5 Dimes I Will I Promise In Other Words Talk Is Cheap.
 
#4
BWE:


I posted up with Heritage yesterday and got a 30% bonus 7x. I refered EOG, Shrink. There is a thread below, but you have to ask for Dennis when you call and tell them EOG sent you to get the 30%. Seems like their limits are a dime on every game over the internet, and I don't know about call in.
 
#5
Shrink. That is a nice guarantee you make there.

I am waiting to hear back from Victor at Hollywood. If they give me a 10% cash bonus I will send the $5K there. If not, I will check into Legendz & Heritage a little more.

Thanks,
Books Worst Enemy
 
#7
So far, I have posted up, or will shortly, as follows:

$5K - ABC Islands
$5K - First Fidelity
$20K - Millennium
$5K - CRIS
$4K - 5 Dimes
$5K - WWTS
$5K - BoDog
$5K - Pinnacle

The last $5K will go to Hollywood if they want it.

Later,
Books Worst Enemy
 
#8
OK Shrink. I am scratching ABC Islands in lieu of Heritage. Hollywood hasn't gotten back with me so I am going with Legendz. Both are offering tremendous sign-up bonuses.

I am only doing this because of Shrink's recommendation. I have never heard of either book before EOG.com.

Thanks Shrink,
Books Worst Enemy
 
#14
Yes, I'm in. So far signed up Bet Jamaica EOG bonus, Heritage EOG bonus, VIP, regular bonus, sportsbook regular bonus. I think Legendz is only one left for me. Are they offering special EOG special membership bonus? You should open a new site every year before football The SHRINK.

Best Wishes...OF:+waving-5
 
#16
Of all the books on this site, I would trust as much or more money with Luke and Legendz than any other group.

As with most books on this site, they will limit you if you are chasing steam and they make it known they do not want professional action...but as far as honesty and integrity, I'll take Luke over anyone in the industry (actually, a tie with his friend Spiro).
 
#18
THE SHRINK said:
Clip Joint,

I would add the main guy at PINNY to this ELITE group too...:+thumbs-2
Everything I have experienced with Pinnacle has been 1st class. I haven't dealt with the head guy directly so I can't speak from personal experience there. But I don't think you will get many arguments on that comment. I know I'll take your word for it.
 
#19
(BOOKS WORST ENEMY) YOU SEEM LIKE A NICE KID BUT IF YOU EXPECT ME TO BELIEVE YOU THAT YOU HAVE SENT OUT 50 GRAND OFFSHORE YOUR OUT OF YOUR MIND.I JUST ADDES UP YOUR AMOUNTS AND IT IS 54 THOUSAND DOLLARS I THINK YOU SHOULD STOP READING PLAYBOY TO MUCH PLAYING WITH YOURSELF HAS MADE YOU START IMAGINING THINGS.I KNOW PEOPLE CAN BELIEVE WHATEVER THEY WRITE ONLINE BUT IF YOU SENT OUT 54,000 DOLLARS OFFSHORE YOUR DUMBER THAN I THOUGHT ANY POSTER COULD BE.WHY DONT YOU MOVE TO SOUTH BOSTON ENEMY I WILL SET YOU UP WITH AN APARTMENT,CAR,BROADS,AS LONG AS YOUR PLAYING FOR THAT AMOUNT I KNOW THE BOOKIES WILL WIN.SHRINK WHERE DO WE GET THESE F-CKING NUTS I WILL BET ANY AMOUNT BOOKS WORST ENEMY IS REALLY RUSS HAWKINS NOBODY EXCECT RUSS COULD HAVE SUCH A WILD IMAGINATION 54 THOUSAND DOLLARS OFFSHORE.HEY ENEMY DID YOU HIT THE LOTTERY OR SOMETHING NOW GET OUT OF HERE BEFORE I KICK YOUR ARSE 54 GRAND OH MAN I CANT STOP LAUGHING:-signs8- 54 GRAND IS NOTHING TO A A GUY LIKE ME I SELL USED CARS RIGHT ENEMY.SHRINK THE NEXT GUY THAT COMES IN HERE ACTING LIKE A BIG SHOT I WANT BANNED THIS IS A SERIOUS GAMBLING FORUM NOT CHUCKY CHEEZE FOR KIDS.

I WILL NEVER FORGET THE GREAT CASCADE ROBBERY OF 2003 THE DAY LENNY AND (CASCADE SPORTSBOOK) STOLE 660 DOLLARS FROM ME
 
#22
Beantownjim,

I know it sounds nuts to send that kind of money off shore. I actually sent more than that amount last fall but I only spread the risk around to three books. I was paid by all three after I hit them pretty hard. If I hadn't remodelled my entire house with the winnings last winter I would agree with your post. By the time I withdrew my funds I had close to $100K with BoDog, Wagermall & Guardian. But $5K for the average sportsbook is nothing. At least not the good ones. And I like to think that the books I have posted with this season are all solid.

BetMill
5 Dimes
CRIS
Legendz (vouched for by Shrink)
Heritage (vouched for by Shrink)
BoDog
WWTS
First Fidelity

I still haven't posted with Pinnacle. Not sure if I will play there or with Hollywood. Probably Hollywood.

I play for fun but I like to win. There is nothing better in life, for me, than having a couple grand on a TV college football game. I love it.

If I lose, I lose. I can handle losing the pick but I can't handle getting stiffed. That's why I place so much confidence in Shrink's recommendation. He & General probably know this industry better than anyone else on the planet.

Later,
Books Worst Enemy
 
#24
Betmill is as solid as they get. The reason I have too much with them right now is because they are the only book that will hold the lines for Phil Steele's Late Phone Selections and I am playing Phil's pre-season this year. Of course the initial $10K deposit only lasted two weeks with Phil's guidance.

Later,
Books Worst Enemy
 
#25
Hey Kid This Is Beantownjim Your Talking To Are You Telling Me You Sent A Sportsbook Over 10 Grand And It Wasnt Pinnacle Are You Soft.first Off Anybody Who Is Playing With That Much Dough And Isnt Taking Advantage Of Pinnacles Low Juice Is An Idiot.i Wouldnt Leave 5 Dimes In One Of These Offshore Sportsbooks And I Dont Care Who It Is You Just Never Know When These Gypsies Are Going To Run Off And Open A New Book.if I Was Playing For Money Like That I Would Feel Better Betting With My Local Boys And Meeting Each Week At Least This Way I Know Where To Find Them If They Decide To Run.i Love My Local Guy Always Has The Money On Sunday Nights Of Course I Am Not Talking About 20 Grand The Most I Have Collected Was 7 Grand But Dont Forget We Go Week To Week.i Have To Laugh What Is The Rollover On Bonus On 10 Grand Hell You Would Have To Give The Book 40 Thousand Dollars Of Action Wow I Wonder How Many Deadbeats In This Forum Could Do That.


Books Worst Enemy Why Wouldnt You Just Send Out 3 Grand And Hopefully Hit Your First Play And Play With House Money Why The Need To Send So Much Money All At Once This In My Opinion Is Stupid.whatever You Do Please Dont Send A Lot Of Money To Cascade I Am Sure You Heard About What Happened To Me.

My Top 3 Sportsbooks
Bet Jamaica
5 Dimes
Pinnacle

Anybody Not Playing At 5 Dimes Or Pinnacle For Baseball Has To Be Crazy They Both Offer 4 Different Total Lines
 
#26
Gypsies???

I am not saying this automatically makes them solid, but BOS, who ownes Millennium, is publicly traded in London. That is a far cry from the picture you paint of a guy with a phone line and a website scamming people for post up money and then changing the name of the book every fall.

Again, of the books I have chosen, I know the least about Legendz and Heritage but I have voucher from Shrink on both of them. I am comfortable with that. As for the others, I have no worries at all with less than $10K. I would be comfortable with just about any dollar amount at BOS because I have read some of the financials and I know they were sitting on over $30m in cash right after the IPO if memory serves correctly. They paid me close to $40K last fall and I have no doubts as to their staying power.

Later,
Books Worst Enemy
 
#27
Books Worst Enemy said:
I would be comfortable with just about any dollar amount at BOS because I have read some of the financials and I know they were sitting on over $30m in cash right after the IPO if memory serves correctly.
Financials mean nothing. If they have so much money, why don't they pay the player they owe $500,000 to?

Having money doesn't mean they are reputable. If they don't have any integrity, they will stiff with our without the ability to pay.
 
#28
Clip Joint,

All I know is, they owed me more than I should have ever allowed last fall and they paid me. Until they stiff me, they are an A+ book as far as I am concerned.

Put yourself in my shoes. If a sportbook had paid you nearly $40K in the past, and paid promptly without bickering over bonuses etc, would you scratch them off your list of outs?

Shouldn't my own first-hand experience count for something?

Later,
Books Worst Enemy
 
#30
Books Worst Enemy,

In my opinion, 1 stiff job erases every payout a book ever makes. They have proven they will stiff and that is enough for me to stay away. There are plenty of reputable outs that have NEVER stiffed a single player and NEVER would. That can't be said about BOS.

I am a pretty large player as well and there is no way I would ever trust my money with a book that has already stiffed someone regardless of how they have treated me. The book you are playing with has an outstanding debt of $500,000. If they have done it once, they can easily do it again.

It is hard to believe a player can have a decent amount of money offshore and have MULTIPLE OUTS and not have Pinnacle...yet play at BOS? :+clueless

:doh1
 

Krackman

EOG Senior Member
#33
Phil Steele gets a kick back on your losses in Millenium. So he like many touts are in a win-win situation. You pay them for the picks and they win, you lose to the book they place their clients they win.

FYI Millenium stole over 3k in bonuses from me two years ago because someone told them I posted as Krackman and I voiced my opinion about a few things I felt they did wrong and they actually went back to the last 3 deposits I made over a 6 month period and stole the money plain and simple.
 
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#34
Krackman said:
Phil Steele gets a kick back on your losses in Millenium. So he like many touts are in a win-win situation. You pay them for the picks and they win, you lose to the book they place their clients they win.

FYI Millenium stole over 3k in bonuses from me two years ago because someone told them I posted as Krackman and I voiced my opinion about a few things I felt they did wrong. They actually went back to the last 3 deposits I made over a 6 month period and stole the money plain and simple.
Phil Steele is the most overrated handicapper in the industry. I can't believe the people that come on here and say they use him. They are either paid shills or they are in for a rude awakening if they actually play his picks for an entire season.

As for them stealing your money...that is incredible. I wish I could say it shocks me...but it doesn't.
 
#35
BWE, Millennium stole $150 from me. But I'm sure your 20 dimes post-up with them is safe.

BTW, Phil Steele is a fraud. If you don't believe me, just ask his mom & dad.
 
#37
Chuck Sims,

"If you don't believe me, just ask his mom and dad".

What do you mean by this. More please?

I realize the guy has dozens of labels for different plays so he will always have something to brag about.

That said, I think I am a believer in his Preseason Late Phones even though he's cost me about $10K this season. His record in preseason is close to 60% ATS over 20+ years. Of course there will be losers and long losing stretches. That is unavoidable. But in his defense this preseason, which is 5-9, at least three of those losing plays had heavy statistical domination by the losing team. Last night's Minny game was a good example.

Thanks,
Books Worst Enemy
 
#38
Phil Steele is a tout. Let's leave it at that. Betmil....crooks..as long as BOS has anything too do with them. Heritage..if they let me bet...love them..but got kicked out years ago..Legendz...in the VIP class...hates winners..:+signs9-1
 
#39
Thanks SHRINK:+thumbs-2 ...I appreciate the list of sportsbooks you have allowed to advertise on your site. Even more, the ones you refused to have advertise on your site. A webite owner taking a stand against crooked sportsbooks.:cheers
 
#40
Totally concur with drunk and Chuck. Phil would give you a 7 point fave in the preseason have you bet at Betmill and win either way. Bet mill=BOS, that is not a good thing. The SHRINK has assembled a good set of advertisers when the worst you can say is they don't like winners.

Best Wishes...OF:+waving-5
 
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