Lock Him Up....

This whole shit show is such an embarrassing episode of our history. Both sides should admit they have no answers for how to responsibly run the country. With all the news networks bought off by one side or the other they just pander to the worst ideas, ones which will never get approved anyways.
This endless nonsense definitely got me thinking of moving up my plan to get out of this fucking shit show country to get some peace and quiet. Just need the market to hold up another 12 months and I will be able to say fuck you all on the left and right, good luck with whatever noisy clown wins the elecrion.
 

Sol Diablo

House of Heat
This whole shit show is such an embarrassing episode of our history. Both sides should admit they have no answers for how to responsibly run the country. With all the news networks bought off by one side or the other they just pander to the worst ideas, ones which will never get approved anyways.
This endless nonsense definitely got me thinking of moving up my plan to get out of this fucking shit show country to get some peace and quiet. Just need the market to hold up another 12 months and I will be able to say fuck you all on the left and right, good luck with whatever noisy clown wins the elecrion.

Where you looking to head?
 
Where you looking to head?

Let's just say I have my eyes on two larger cities in Latin America. Doesn't really matter where, point being I have had it with the nonsense here. And to top it off the health care costs are insane in the US. I can retire at 49 if I don't have to pay $985/month for my wife and myself in health insurance costs as I would currently. I'm sure after 50 its going to get worse. People in the US just too stupid to realize how insanely disturbed our economy is because of our asinine way of doing health care. Not that long ago I ran a small business and health care costs were make or break level for us. Then I moved to Toronto for two years to work as a consultant and it was like wow, you mean you can really make business and career decisions without having to think about health insurance? I'm no fan of socialism and certainly saw the faults in the Canadian system, but that was mind-bending to see the contrasts between the two.

So I can pay about $100-200/month for health insurance and maybe health care is a little less quality than the US (although probably not), but the difference in cost just about pays my rent down there. My rental home cashflow and dividend income will pay for everything and I won't have to touch the principal or the IRA. Its pretty pathetic that a lot of us can do this elsewhere, but staying in the US keeps us chained to a job if for no other reason than to get health insurance. And from our politicians, I hear absolutely nothing that makes me believe anyone has figured out something that will work and can be passed into law. Good luck making the billionaires millionaires Liz and Bernie to pay for your "solution", we all know how that proposal will end.
 

Bigrunner

EOG Master
This whole shit show is such an embarrassing episode of our history. Both sides should admit they have no answers for how to responsibly run the country. With all the news networks bought off by one side or the other they just pander to the worst ideas, ones which will never get approved anyways.
This endless nonsense definitely got me thinking of moving up my plan to get out of this fucking shit show country to get some peace and quiet. Just need the market to hold up another 12 months and I will be able to say fuck you all on the left and right, good luck with whatever noisy clown wins the elecrion.

What were the Dems supposed to do? I'm very curious. It seems to me one side has respected the constitution and the RepubliCONs have blind loyalty to Tiny. My god, he's been named Individual - 1 in one court case. He admits to stealing millions from charities. Him and his family are receiving Emoluments. He's obstructed justice many times. And now Tiny got caught bribing a for leader using taxpayer's dollars for help to win an election.

Again what are the Dems supposed to do?
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
What were the Dems supposed to do? I'm very curious. It seems to me one side has respected the constitution and the RepubliCONs have blind loyalty to Tiny. My god, he's been named Individual - 1 in one court case. He admits to stealing millions from charities. Him and his family are receiving Emoluments. He's obstructed justice many times. And now Tiny got caught bribing a for leader using taxpayer's dollars for help to win an election.

Again what are the Dems supposed to do?
They are doing a fine job, I wouldn’t change a thing.
 

Bigrunner

EOG Master
They are doing a fine job, I wouldn’t change a thing.

That's why you witnessed a Blue Wave last November. The majority of America see's right thru Trump's, Nunes, and Jim Jordan's conspiracies. Since the birtherism conspiracy Trump has floated 35 more. They have all been debunked. Adam Schiff is an American Hero.
 

Bushay

NHL Expert
That's why you witnessed a Blue Wave last November. The majority of America see's right thru Trump's, Nunes, and Jim Jordan's conspiracies. Since the birtherism conspiracy Trump has floated 35 more. They have all been debunked. Adam Schiff is an American Hero.
Schiff's a rockstar in all this.

Fascinating watching history before our very eyes.
 

Bushay

NHL Expert
He'll go down in history as one of, if not THEE biggest most corrupt individual in US history.

How can you get any bigger than this?

You can't.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
So what's the media going to do with today's testimony? They'll say, damning, devastating testimony against trump, blah, blah, blah, and put on their usual hysterics, the problem is they say that every day, so they are left with no way to really influence public opinion, when you cry wolf each and every day, people stop listening. it's called karma.
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
But which president hasn't used taxpayer's dollars to bribe a foreign president to investigate their political rivals. They all do it.
- RepubliCon Fair Warning
You honestly believe that house and senate members don’t play the favors game? You are dumber than I thought. Hell, Hillary played it right thru her charity.
 

Bigrunner

EOG Master
You honestly believe that house and senate members don’t play the favors game? You are dumber than I thought. Hell, Hillary played it right thru her charity.

Your claim is baseless. Par for the course. Her charity is rated A+ by the watch dogs. I understand Fair Warning mindset. Its ok that Trump stole millions from charities. They all do it. But he has zero proof accept h was born that way and his Grandpa was a powerful RepubliCon.
 

MrTop

EOG Master
Your claim is baseless. Par for the course. Her charity is rated A+ by the watch dogs. I understand Fair Warning mindset. Its ok that Trump stole millions from charities. They all do it. But he has zero proof accept h was born that way and his Grandpa was a powerful RepubliCon.



problem is .. the dems would have to win in the senate to impeach ... that won't happen the republicans hold the majority... so this is a waste of time & taxpayer money
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
Your claim is baseless. Par for the course. Her charity is rated A+ by the watch dogs. I understand Fair Warning mindset. Its ok that Trump stole millions from charities. They all do it. But he has zero proof accept h was born that way and his Grandpa was a powerful RepubliCon.


https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/clinton-foundation-donations/



Scam Exposed: Donations To Clinton Foundation Plummeted After Clinton Lost The Election


  • 11/23/2018
Corruption: Throughout the presidential campaign there was plenty of talk about whether the Clinton Foundation was a legitimate charity or a pay-to-play scam. The latest financial data from the charity provides the answer.














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Controversy over the foundation erupted after Peter Schweizer's 2015 book — "Clinton Cash" — suggested that the foundation served as a way for donors to curry favor with then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
Coincidences?
And, indeed, the multitude of connections that slowly turned out became hard to dismiss as coincidental. There was the fact that 85 of the 154 private interests who'd met with Clinton during her tenure at state were Clinton Foundation donors.

Emails turned up showing how the foundation intervened to arrange a meeting between Clinton and the Crown Prince of Bahrain, a country that had been a major foundation donor. A Chicago commodities trader who donated $100,000 to the foundation got a top job on a State Department arms control panel, despite having no experience in the area. On and on it went.

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Earlier this year, news broke that the FBI was investigating whether the foundation violated tax laws by converting donations to personal or political uses. In December, Republicans plan to hold a hearing into the probe, before handing control of the House to Democrats.
Throughout all this, the Clinton's and their defenders insisted that foundation was doing great work for mankind. It was helping the poor and sick around the world. It got top ratings from charity rating agencies. They said there wasn't any hard evidence of wrongdoing.


Donations Evaporate
But the most glaring indictment of the Clinton Foundation came from what happened last year, after Hillary Clinton lost the election — and effectively ended her political career.
First, the Clinton's almost immediately shuttered the Clinton Global Initiative and laid off 22 employees.

Now, fresh financial documents show that contributions and grants to the Clinton Foundation plunged since Hillary lost her election bid. They dropped from $216 million in 2016 to just $26.5 million in 2017 — a stunning 88% fall. Throughout Clinton's tenure as Secretary of State, the foundation pulled in an average of $254 million a year. (See the nearby chart below for a timeline.)
If the Clinton Foundation was as good as defenders claimed, why did all its big-time donors suddenly lose interest? The only reasonable explanation is that donors weren't interested in what the foundation supposedly did for humanity. They were interested in the political favors they knew their money would buy.
 

MrTop

EOG Master
Then vote RepubliCons you quack. You'll fit right in.



the senate votes.... not the people to impeach... after this phase is over... the vote comes by the senate to impeach... they won't vote trump out.. the republicans have the majority




you and every dem out there just learned something. LOL


i am nuetral i don't care who is in office.
 

Bushay

NHL Expert
problem is .. the dems would have to win in the senate to impeach ... that won't happen the republicans hold the majority... so this is a waste of time & taxpayer money
They KNOW that some Republicans in the Senate will vote to impeach him, but are only saying that only privately at this point. So they are showing not only the country AND these Republicans what actually is going on hoping they get enough to impeach once it goes to a vote. Republican voters are very loyal and believe what their representatives tell them many times be it the truth or not. This brings it all out in the open for everyone to see even though this White House will not allow 1st hand witnesses to testify. News flash, they don't need them. They are confident EVEN if the Senate votes to NOT impeach him, they know they are in a much better position to vote him out next November. So yes, these hearings are EXTREMELY important. Win or lose. They are confident Republican voters are intelligent enough to know right from wrong and make smart decisions when presented with ALL the facts or as much as they are able to provide for them. Jury still out on that one though unfortunately.
 

MrTop

EOG Master
They KNOW that some Republicans in the Senate will vote to impeach him, but are only saying that only privately at this point. So they are showing not only the country AND these Republicans what actually is going on hoping they get enough to impeach once it goes to a vote. Republican voters are very loyal and believe what their representatives tell them many times be it the truth or not. This brings it all out in the open for everyone to see even though this White House will not allow 1st hand witnesses to testify. News flash, they don't need them. They are confident EVEN if the Senate votes to NOT impeach him, they know they are in a much better position to vote him out next November. So yes, these hearings are EXTREMELY important. Win or lose. They are confident Republican voters are intelligent enough to know right from wrong and make smart decisions when presented with ALL the facts or as much as they are able to provide for them. Jury still out on that one though unfortunately.


they will never vote him out... dems should concentrate on winning election...last 100 years when economy is doing well the president wins the election. The economy doing real good right not but could change
 

boston massacre

EOG Master
Sondland running trump over with a bus and backing up to run him over again in his testimony

Then the Republicans on the Committee FLATTENING HIS TESTIMONY INTO THE GROUND . PANCAKE STYLE.

PRESUME, PRESUMPTION, EVERYONE IN THE LOOP.

Doesn't Know if this one or that one knew, understood, felt, believed.


A Big FUCKIN SHIT SHOW !

ANYBODY WANT TO WAGER A CONVICTION IN THE SENATE ?

I SAY NO CONVICTION.
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
If the D’s are counting on R’s voting right from wrong, they will lose again. Trying to determine what is right from wrong with out of touch politicians doesn’t keep the roof over your head, nor does it get you reasonable healthcare.
 

Bigrunner

EOG Master
they will never vote him out... dems should concentrate on winning election...last 100 years when economy is doing well the president wins the election. The economy doing real good right not but could change

Where is the economy real good? Very curious.
 

Bushay

NHL Expert
unemployment is low
stock market all time high
consumer confidence is a bit worried.
Unemployment low because people are working 2-3 jobs to just get by.

Only people benefitting from this crook is his rich buddies mainly because of his tax cuts. Now the American people are paying the farmers bailouts.

He took over an economy the guy before him started. And that individual took over after the last Republican left him a mess to deal with. That's why he was voted in and people insisted on change. Which is whats going to happen once again next November. He'll be another 1 term POTUS unless his luck runs out before then.

Please don't buy into that other BS.
 

Bushay

NHL Expert
If the D’s are counting on R’s voting right from wrong, they will lose again. Trying to determine what is right from wrong with out of touch politicians doesn’t keep the roof over your head, nor does it get you reasonable healthcare.
He wasn't getting elected again before these impeachment hearings. Their not counting on that. People had roofs over their heads before this clown took over. More people getting healthcare under Obamacare than what this dope is trying to buffalo you into thinking. You're smarter than that Fairwarning.
 

Bigrunner

EOG Master
unemployment is low
stock market all time high
consumer confidence is a bit worried.

Stock market was an all time high on Obama's last day. Market returns were much higher under Obama. Fact!

Debt and Deficits are booming and at a all time high. GDP is at a very sluggish 1.9% compared to Trumps promises of 3 to 5 %. More farmers than ever before going bankrupt. More farmers than ever before on welfare. More people dying from pollution then in over 2 decades.


Please stop trafficking misinformation!
 
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mr merlin

EOG Master
Another good day for Trump. no doubt about that, no republican hesitation of any kind in their total and complete support of this fine president.

Trump is bulletproof, he will win re election easily...and the tears will flow again.
 

MrTop

EOG Master
Unemployment low because people are working 2-3 jobs to just get by.

Only people benefitting from this crook is his rich buddies mainly because of his tax cuts. Now the American people are paying the farmers bailouts.

He took over an economy the guy before him started. And that individual took over after the last Republican left him a mess to deal with. That's why he was voted in and people insisted on change. Which is whats going to happen once again next November. He'll be another 1 term POTUS unless his luck runs out before then.

Please don't buy into that other BS.







unemployment does not go lower on a person's 2nd job I think you mean low wages is why they have 2nd and third jobs why did clinton let China into the world trade organization ? it happened under his watch..with his signature . that is when big business moved offshore to china in year 2000 is it possible both sides are for big business and the dems just sprinkle a little to the poor to make them happy... seems like the guys on top are fooling everyone
 
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