MGM reports possible $800 million Vegas shooting payout (Mandalay Bay)

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Mandalay Bay employees unwittingly allowed the deranged gunman to use a service elevator to transport his artillery to the 32nd floor.

I'd add another 50% to the settlement on that count alone.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
I thought they should have changed the name of Mandalay Bay in the wake of the tragedy.

Instead, MGM Mirage changed the name of Monte Carlo Hotel and Casino to Park MGM.
 

Heim

EOG Master
Locals stay away from MGM properties. -EV property. Of the few times I went (MGM) I bumped into Jim Feist and his
bodyguard at a live music lounge.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Supervisors in the sports book at the MGM Grand encourage players to sign up for a player tracking card.

They explained to me there are no benefits for your race and sports play but if you lose a ticket, it speeds up the process to "lock out" the ticket and start the lost ticket claim.

No thank you.
 

winkyduck

TYVM Morgan William!!!
Supervisors in the sports book at the MGM Grand encourage players to sign up for a player tracking card.

They explained to me there are no benefits for your race and sports play but if you lose a ticket, it speeds up the process to "lock out" the ticket and start the lost ticket claim.

No thank you.

That actually saved me many years ago. Sis had a card for the Red Rock. I made some NHL bets - all to the card. Of the 5 all but 1 had a result before I left town. The final one was a winner and I gave it to Dad to cash when he came back into town a few weeks later. He put it in his wallet. Night before he is ready to leave for Vegas I ask to see the ticket. He made up some excuse so I knew he lost it. I said "no biggie" since it was on Sis' card. A few days later Sis went to the RR and scanned the card. It took a few seconds but they found the ticket. It took a few weeks but Sis was able to go get the money. I know if people lose a ticket but know some details of it they can also cash a ticket still. If I didn't put the play on Sis' card I knew around what time and day I made the bet so they woulda been able to find it.

As for this payout..................family friends of ours were good friends with Angie Gomez - who might have been the youngest victim. The friends still have a tough time getting over it. My nephew had a good friend there but she got out without being hit. I know someone else - her daughter was there but also escaped without being physically hurt. Mentally - she is still not 100% from this incident
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
I have no sympathy for MGM, but i dont like the idea of holding a hotel responsible for the actions of guests. I'll be in vegas next week, nothing would stop me from bringing a gun into my room , they have no control over that.
 

MrTop

EOG Master
I have no sympathy for MGM, but i dont like the idea of holding a hotel responsible for the actions of guests. I'll be in vegas next week, nothing would stop me from bringing a gun into my room , they have no control over that.




if there were extra security & people to remove the trays in the hallway it could of been stopped much earlier. The hidden camera was under a table towel. Why didn't they hire their own security force with AR-15's & shotgun's before it happened ??? Sorry I blame them 100%
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
if there were extra security & people to remove the trays in the hallway it could of been stopped much earlier. The hidden camera was under a table towel. Why didn't they hire their own security force with AR-15's & shotgun's before it happened ??? Sorry I blame them 100%
that's ridiculous, do you think every hotel and motel in vegas should have armed swat teams on duty?
 

MrTop

EOG Master
that's ridiculous, do you think every hotel and motel in vegas should have armed swat teams on duty?



if I owned one I would.... but if you owned the MGM you would be 800 million dollars a little light ..correct? how much would 4 undercover or regular cops cost per year? spend the 500k or 1million per year it will take you a long time to get it back your way. It is whatever you can afford.

all rich people have security... and some people have weapons for own protection ......don't depend on the gov't
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
all casino's in NJ have the state police in each casino..... time to act smart MGM
It's my understanding they have a very large security force, some of whom were armed, he was on what, the 29th floor, you want armed guards on every floor, the bulk of the shooting didn't take that long.
 

MrTop

EOG Master
It's my understanding they have a very large security force, some of whom were armed, he was on what, the 29th floor, you want armed guards on every floor, the bulk of the shooting didn't take that long.



they were not good enough... retired men ..the gang that could not shoot straight.
 

MrTop

EOG Master
It's my understanding they have a very large security force, some of whom were armed, he was on what, the 29th floor, you want armed guards on every floor, the bulk of the shooting didn't take that long.



the foot cart was sitting in the hallway for a long time with his camera. looking at the hallway. ….should of hired more staff.... too cheap...same routine everywhere ...DO IT WITH LESS.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
they were not good enough... retired men ..the gang that could not shoot straight.
I dont know what your problem is, it was a terrible thing done by a nutcase, Where do you come off calling the Mandalay bay security force a bunch of retired old men, I bet 95% of them were young.

I get that you hate MGM, I do too, it's just no reason to spew out nonsense . I dont want to visit a hotel or casino that's an armed camp, i dont think anyone does.
 

MrTop

EOG Master
I dont know what your problem is, it was a terrible thing done by a nutcase, Where do you come off calling the Mandalay bay security force a bunch of retired old men, I bet 95% of them were young.

I get that you hate MGM, I do too, it's just no reason to spew out nonsense . I dont want to visit a hotel or casino that's an armed camp, i dont think anyone does.



LOL , I never said I hate the MGM. I just think they should pay the most possible thru the court system. If they don't have police there at all times they should . Through out all ball parks they have police there at all times. Why not a big place like that ? Airports have them , like I said casino's have them ... many schools through out USA they are putting undercover cops at grade schools for the kids. The list goes on. This is all the fault of big business not reaching in their pocket. Pay , pay , pay
 

MrTop

EOG Master
So that's why they went to 6-5 blackjack.....



U are darn right. These guys are clipping me every time I make a bet there too! They have 2 MGM places online in NJ to bet sports... with the same lines !!! give the people 2 sets of lines.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
LOL , I never said I hate the MGM. I just think they should pay the most possible thru the court system. If they don't have police there at all times they should . Through out all ball parks they have police there at all times. Why not a big place like that ? Airports have them , like I said casino's have them ... many schools through out USA they are putting undercover cops at grade schools for the kids. The list goes on. This is all the fault of big business not reaching in their pocket. Pay , pay , pay
Police? Cmon, they're basically worthless, a few cops wouldn't have done shit to Paddock for a long time, they would have "called in" the swat team. Remember that school in FLA? That cop did squat.

Would you be satisfied if the MGM said wow, a billion is a lot, we're losing money now,we're not fully insured, we'll just go out of business?
 

MrTop

EOG Master
Police? Cmon, they're basically worthless, a few cops wouldn't have done shit to Paddock for a long time, they would have "called in" the swat team. Remember that school in FLA? That cop did squat.

Would you be satisfied if the MGM said wow, a billion is a lot, we're losing money now,we're not fully insured, we'll just go out of business?



we don't know if they had cops there or not for sure but if they did they should be experienced to do up there to take him out with a shield and whatever tools they needed.

Yes the MGM already said it was a lot . They countered sued I think... I don't know much about the story but I think the insurance picked up the tab for the most part. The new insurance might want tanks there next. If they want to open a new policy. Hey the insurance companies are a business too. Why should they have to keep paying cause the MGM does not have extra police there...right ?
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
we don't know if they had cops there or not for sure but if they did they should be experienced to do up there to take him out with a shield and whatever tools they needed.

Yes the MGM already said it was a lot . They countered sued I think... I don't know much about the story but I think the insurance picked up the tab for the most part. The new insurance might want tanks there next. they want to open a new policy. Hey the insurance companies are a business too. Why should they have to keep paying cause the MGM does not have extra police there...right ?
I think there were cops there when the shooting started, I seem to recall it was a coincidence, but they did nothing, it took 5-10 min to figure out what was happening and exactly where it was coming from. Following that the "police" stationed themselve outside his room while they waited.

Put the blame where it lies, Paddock, period, should the MGM pay something, yea, probably, but why $800 miliion, why not 8 billion, or 80 billion?

The MGM was not responsible for the shooting.
 

MrTop

EOG Master
I think there were cops there when the shooting started, I seem to recall it was a coincidence, but they did nothing, it took 5-10 min to figure out what was happening and exactly where it was coming from. Following that the "police" stationed themselve outside his room while they waited.

Put the blame where it lies, Paddock, period, should the MGM pay something, yea, probably, but why $800 miliion, why not 8 billion, or 80 billion?

The MGM was not responsible for the shooting.



MGM did not cause it but they could of slowed it down. Metal detectors ? It is the MGM property still … just like if they had a circus there and the tiger got loose.. and bit me lost my arm and I am employed violin player in a band ... you should pay for that too..... MGM let the public on their property they should make sure people are safe.just like fire prevention etc.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
MGM did not cause it but they could of slowed it down. Metal detectors ? It is the MGM property still … just like if they had a circus there and the tiger got loose.. and bit me lost my arm and I am employed violin player in a band ... you should pay for that too..... MGM let the public on their property they should make sure people are safe.just like fire prevention etc.
You're missing the fact that other than the security guard, no one on the MGM prop were harmed, are they responsible for people elsewhere? So anywhere in america, if a kook opens a window and perhaps shoots at a plane, and it crashes, it's the owner of the properties fault?
 

MrTop

EOG Master
You're missing the fact that other than the security guard, no one on the MGM prop were harmed, are they responsible for people elsewhere? So anywhere in america, if a kook opens a window and perhaps shoots at a plane, and it crashes, it's the owner of the properties fault?



58 killed and 422 harmed...rough figures ......... all came from a window from mandelay bay .....that is the MGM owners.... how are you gonna pay cash or check ?
 

MrTop

EOG Master
You're missing the fact that other than the security guard, no one on the MGM prop were harmed, are they responsible for people elsewhere? So anywhere in america, if a kook opens a window and perhaps shoots at a plane, and it crashes, it's the owner of the properties fault?



people said they were not gonna get any money from 911 .......... I know someone who got 2 million.
 

MrTop

EOG Master
You're missing the fact that other than the security guard, no one on the MGM prop were harmed, are they responsible for people elsewhere? So anywhere in america, if a kook opens a window and perhaps shoots at a plane, and it crashes, it's the owner of the properties fault?



same with the nets at the baseball games that were getting installed.... owners tired of writing checks........
 

Heim

EOG Master
Since when does a insurance carrier say 'here is 751 million bucks' for settlement purposes when every binder has exclusions for intentional acts by guests?
 

MrTop

EOG Master
Since when does a insurance carrier say 'here is 751 million bucks' for settlement purposes when every binder has exclusions for intentional acts by guests?



never, will fight it tooth and nail. probably will get a 500k - million per on death. injured a lot less or will go to court years later.. most like 9-11 will take instant $$$
 

winkyduck

TYVM Morgan William!!!
paddock was probably hired by mgm to kill the people

You have posted a lot of asinine things. THIS IS BY FAR THE WORST YOU HAVE EVER POSTED! Not even you can say this is true. THIS is why MAGAts infuriate people. You cry and scream about Fake News. Then post something so asinine fake it isn't funny yet think it is real and then rip people who state FACTS about how pathetically awful Der Fuhrer is. Matt - you should be ashamed for even thinking of posting this.
 

MrTop

EOG Master
that's ridiculous, do you think every hotel and motel in vegas should have armed swat teams on duty?




get use to paying like this time... how many man hour cops do you need to make up $755 million payout........... you think cheap.... pay pay pay
 
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