NBA 2025 notes, news, plays
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OKC record is 17-1
played Sacramento 3x
played the lakers without LeBron
did not play yet ---Denver, Detroit, SA, Tor, Mia, Clev, NYK, Phoenix, Minn
played Houston but it took OT to beat them winning by 1.. favored by -6.5
we don't know if they can repeat....not enough data.....
The NBA took a big hit with ratings when haliburton went down.
played Sacramento 3x
played the lakers without LeBron
did not play yet ---Denver, Detroit, SA, Tor, Mia, Clev, NYK, Phoenix, Minn
played Houston but it took OT to beat them winning by 1.. favored by -6.5
we don't know if they can repeat....not enough data.....
The NBA took a big hit with ratings when haliburton went down.
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I've seen enough from this team to definitively say the can absolutely repeat, they're fucking loaded. There's a reason they're the favorites to cut down the nets again
The most important Data has been Left out.
Which is......that their 17-1 Record has been achieved, without their 2nd Leading Scorer , Jalen Williams , who has missed every Game this year , after averaging 21.6 ppg. Last Season.
Question for those who bet regular season NBA. I used to bet it quite a bit, until load management made it unplayable (IMO). Is the end of game "dribble out" no longer a thing?
I have bet one game this year; a game Kane pointed out which fit an angle I like; Detroit after seeing a long win streak end. I don't watch it and couldn't even tell you who's good.
Last night, a friend texted me he in game bet SA/NY Under 236 1/2. I pretty much disregarded it; paid no attention at all. This morning, I decided to take a look. I see the 124-113 final, as it was a half point beat. Now it was a "stop the car and view the car crash" event. I had to look up the play by play. I've had under lose by a half point where the final basket was scored w 45 seconds to play. Those are NOT bad beats. But last night, it's 120-110 NY in final 24 seconds. NY ball. Dribble out, right? Nope, a basket w 22 seconds left, 122-110. Then SA hits a deep three with 18 seconds to play, 122-113. But the under should be safe, right? Dribble out time. Nope. Hart gets a basket with 8 seconds to play. 124-113. That's a tough beat.
I have bet one game this year; a game Kane pointed out which fit an angle I like; Detroit after seeing a long win streak end. I don't watch it and couldn't even tell you who's good.
Last night, a friend texted me he in game bet SA/NY Under 236 1/2. I pretty much disregarded it; paid no attention at all. This morning, I decided to take a look. I see the 124-113 final, as it was a half point beat. Now it was a "stop the car and view the car crash" event. I had to look up the play by play. I've had under lose by a half point where the final basket was scored w 45 seconds to play. Those are NOT bad beats. But last night, it's 120-110 NY in final 24 seconds. NY ball. Dribble out, right? Nope, a basket w 22 seconds left, 122-110. Then SA hits a deep three with 18 seconds to play, 122-113. But the under should be safe, right? Dribble out time. Nope. Hart gets a basket with 8 seconds to play. 124-113. That's a tough beat.
Teams typically dribble it out in the final seconds when the game is clearly decided. Last night was the final of the "NBA Cup", it's an in season tournament the commissioner came up with to keep fan interest in the league during a time when interest is typically low, other than the hard core fans, most NBA fans don't start paying attention until around Christmas. This is only the third year they've done this, I don't know how much fan interest has increased because of it, I'm a hard core NBA fan and I have little to no interest in who wins the Cup. Anyway, had this been just another regular season game, you wouldn't have seen the scoring at the end, with a big lead the Knicks would have dribbled it out. It always sucks to lose any bet by a half point, but the steam was on the over big time, I think the total closed 5 points higher than the opener
I did see that OKC lost the other day, breaking a 16 or 17 game win streak. I will be fading them tomorrow.
- Across a series of recent games, OKC is +6 in ball-pressure wins per game and +10 in ball-pressure microwins per game when you combine offense and defense.
- Opponents actually win more “drives” in the box-score sense, but OKC is +9 in drive microwins, meaning every drive against them is a fight.
- On the defensive glass, OKC is +11 in rebound wins and +6 in rebound microwins — once they make you shoot, your possession is usually over.
- Dort, Wallace, and Caruso are the microwins grind-core of the perimeter; Shai and Chet are the possession win stars.
Laker Reaves out a month.
interesting i did not know nash was worth that much.
looking at it from years ago...Alcinder was worth that or more.... VORP was about 9
he had oscar robertson and dandridge with lucias allen
joker was VORP 10.6 ...2023-24.........no way was the cast of denver what jabbar had in his time...
IMO jabbar was more dominating at his highest point
looking at it from years ago...Alcinder was worth that or more.... VORP was about 9
he had oscar robertson and dandridge with lucias allen
joker was VORP 10.6 ...2023-24.........no way was the cast of denver what jabbar had in his time...
IMO jabbar was more dominating at his highest point
I know this is pretty remedial stuff but the big line drop isn't just Joker being out it's because the rest of the starters are already sidelined too. With a healthy supporting cast the team could absorb his absence better. But he was carrying like 80% of the load. On top of that going from Val to Daron Holmes at center amplifies the drop off massively. Jokers impact looks "unheard of" mainly because the roster around him is so depleted.
Yeah, four starters and their key acquisition at backup center all out. At this point it's try not to drop below the 8th seed to avoid a one and done situation.
All that said this could end up being a blessing in disguise. The starters get valuable rest mid season and the bench guys are getting minutes and experience they desperately need. Come playoff time a fresher core plus a deeper battle tested rotation could make them a tougher out. I'm going to wait untill I can get something in the +1200 -1400 NBA championship range.
I got a great price on them before the season, one of my outs was way off market so I fired at +1250
Thunder are the best but a fully loaded Nuggets team is still right there. Nuggets pushed them to 7 games with AG playing through a Grade 2 hamstring strain and MPJ basically one armed from a sprained AC joint in his shoulder. I think if they would have had VJ last year they would have won that series.
I do wonder if AG is ever going to be the same again or if this is just going to be a reoccurring nightmare.
Not the Spurs?! OKC has 5 losses, 3 to the Spurs & last loss Wemby came off the bench with a minute restriction.
The Spurs do seem to be the Thunder's Kryptonite, but OKC is the best team in the league, I have the Spurs to win the West +3500 so I hope you end up right. To win the West OKC -150, SA +800
One of those teams don't defend. They named a omelette after them. Get the black sharpie out.
Oh boy. Paging Ruca
Somebody wanna tell this
that the Nuggets were top 5 in defensive rating (even cracked top 3 at one point) early in the season before Braun's ankle sprain and Gordon's hamstring hit? 
No wonder he can’t crack 50% in the Grand Challenge and has to lean on those $25 max-bet profit boosts just to scrape together any edge in the Best Bet thread which by the way has been bleeding units hard since football/basketball season kicked off.
True, he's not even the best player on ATL. However, what I like about him, in crunch time he's a expert drawing fouls.
So is Harden