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So I'm scanning the board and I see the Eagles laying 4 to the Broncos, I have a feeling the reaction of most people, including myself was, man that number looks low. I mean we're talking about the defending champions, a team that has won 20 of it's last 21 games, at home, and "only" laying 4 to a 1-2 Broncos team (with tonight's game pending). Digging a little deeper, I see the Eagles have been out yarded in every game they've played, they've also been out first downed in every game, and they've given up more YPP in every game. Some of that is attributed to the QB's they've faced, Dak, Mahomes, Stafford, and Baker, and Nix not at the same level with those guys, but it doesn't change the fact they've lost the stats battle in each game. Not taking anything away from them and not saying they're lucky, you don't go 20-1 by luck, but a lot of things have to go right and a lot of bounces have to go your way to keep winning like they do. The Broncos haven't looked as good as many thought entering the season, we'll see what happens tonight, and defensively they haven't lived up to the preseason billing. So, why is the spread 4, most people give 1.5 points for home field, so if the game was in Denver the line would be Eagles -1, but they were just in Tampa laying 3.5 and won the game and covered. I haven't bet it yet, I want to see the outcome of tonight's game, but this line looks very "trappish" to me.
 
AJ Brown has done little this year, and can't see him doing much vs Denver either. Philly's ST have been elite though. Pinny is at 5.5 now.

If Baltimore has a get-well game in them, its this week vs Houston.
 
I smelled trap soon as I saw Philly Line.

Another Trap I see is Chargers -3 .

Biggest Trap I've seen this year was in college Last week.

Georgia -2.5 against Bama.

Penn St. -3.5 against Oregon was also Trap material.

So it's Denver and Washington on Sunday.
 
The World is waiting for the Eagles to lose a game so that they can say I told you so…

Hurts still gets no respect…

Al Davis said it best…”Just win baby”
 
Saints are gonna get win number 1.

When bad teams finally get a win, fade them next out. The Giants qualify as a bad team.
 
Saints are gonna get win number 1.

When bad teams finally get a win, fade them next out. The Giants qualify as a bad team.
You read my mind. The Giants won last week, but if you look at the stats they were outplayed. Meanwhile, even though the Saints suck, they've been pretty competitive, and this is one of the few opportunities they'll have to win a game, I haven't done anything but I have NO circled
 
You read my mind. The Giants won last week, but if you look at the stats they were outplayed. Meanwhile, even though the Saints suck, they've been pretty competitive, and this is one of the few opportunities they'll have to win a game, I haven't done anything but I have NO circled
And after tonight, the Dolphins in the same boat (no pun intended). Looks like i will be on not only New Orleans but Carolina as well. Gotta love the NFL.
 
Denver won but they haven't done anything impressive all this season.

Can't Comprehend how they're only a 3.5 underdog at Philly this week.

I could uderstand if the Game was in Denver.
 
Eagles could easily be 1-3 or victim to a goose egg. Average win just 5 points thus far. Denver manhandled erratic Burrowless Cincinnati and their putrid defense and I'm not surprised Denver is just a 4 point dog. Siriani is getting it done but not necessarily in impressive fashion thus far. Im not in upset mode yet but I also wouldnt surprise myself even when you hold Browning to a fg.
 
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Eagles could easily be 1-3 or victim to a goose egg. Average win just 5 points thus far. Denver manhandled erratic Burrowless Cincinnati and their putrid defense and I'm not surprised Denver is just a 4 point dog. Siriani is getting it done but not necessarily in impressive fashion thus far. Im not in upset mode yet but I also wouldnt surprise myself even when you hold Browning to a fg.

21-1 the last two seasons…get on board Jimmy…
 
And after tonight, the Dolphins in the same boat (no pun intended). Looks like i will be on not only New Orleans but Carolina as well. Gotta love the NFL.
The Fins aren't a good team, but there are different levels of bad, not sure I'd put them in the same level of bad as the Giants, if they lose to the Panthers then it's different
 
Looks like Lamar is out this week, as crazy as it sounds I might end up on the Ravens this week
 
Could you imagine, the Giants handle the Saints and Jaxson Dart, with a 2-0 record as starter, hands the Eagles their first loss at home on TNF? How legends are made....
 
They've gone against some good offenses in Detroit, Buffalo, and KC, plus their defense has been decimated by injuries

Yeah, certainly Buffalo and Detroit, but KC is middle of the pack in offense/points, and the Browns are near the bottom.
 
The Fins aren't a good team, but there are different levels of bad, not sure I'd put them in the same level of bad as the Giants, if they lose to the Panthers then it's different

I think they are bad. Finally get a 6 point win despite being +3 in turnovers. The D is hideous; opposing QBs over 110 rating in all 4 games; opponents have rushed for over 150 yards in 3 of their 4 games. Opponents YPP has gotten worse every week; 6.0, 6.1, 6.3 and 7.1. They benefitted from 101 penalty yards by the Jets, not to mention two CLEAR, obvious unnecessary roughness fouls not called hitting Fields out of bounds. All that, and they come back in 6 days. And without Hill for the rest of the year. Give me the David Tepper crew.
 
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Hoping the Jets can get to +3. Might play them anyways. The 3 plays I like best? Carolina, Saints and Jets.....combined record? 1-11. LOL that's the NFL.
 
The line is telling you he's out, but now Purdy is officially out. Every team deals with a tom of injuries, it's the nature of the game, but it sure seems like SF deals with more than anyone, and not just in quantity but quality, Purdy, Bosa, etc
 
Looks like either Arizona or Detroit for my survivor, the Titans are taking money God knows why, I'll likely end up on the Cards, this is probably the best opportunity to take them, the Lions will have more options down the road
 
Looks like either Arizona or Detroit for my survivor, the Titans are taking money God knows why, I'll likely end up on the Cards, this is probably the best opportunity to take them, the Lions will have more options down the road

If one didn't use them (Arizona) week 2 at home vs Carolina. That was a pretty good spot.
 
Have to wonder how much Piersall & Jennings are worth. And backup WR Watkins also out so clearly cluster injuries at WR. But this just keeps jumping higher. I can't lay 9 here.
 
The line is telling you he's out, but now Purdy is officially out. Every team deals with a tom of injuries, it's the nature of the game, but it sure seems like SF deals with more than anyone, and not just in quantity but quality, Purdy, Bosa, etc

Yep, Rams now a 9-point home favorite vs 49ers Thursday at Circa! Was -3 -107 at Pinny until Sunday night.
 
Was McVey for real with that predictable run into the line to end the game on 4th down?

He usually puts Puka in motion and flips the ball to him...
 
Have to wonder how much Piersall & Jennings are worth. And backup WR Watkins also out so clearly cluster injuries at WR. But this just keeps jumping higher. I can't lay 9 here.

The 9 really was crazy. Piersall and Jennings are ok, but do they impact the spread? No. Same with Kittle. This might've been one of the biggest injury overreactions we've seen in a long time.
 
AFC/NFC scorecard thru 4 weeks:

11 NFC wins
8 AFC wins

This percentage is just about where is was at last year. Yet all we've heard in recent years was the AFC was better; "better QBs, better conference". Maybe the MSM needs to stop the narrative that its all about the quarterback.
 
AFC/NFC scorecard thru 4 weeks:

11 NFC wins
8 AFC wins

This percentage is just about where is was at last year. Yet all we've heard in recent years was the AFC was better; "better QBs, better conference". Maybe the MSM needs to stop the narrative that its all about the quarterback.
Nobody compares the Jets, Titans or Browns when saying the AFC is stronger they mean top teams. This year’s more even but preseason most had Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow and Patrick Mahomes as the top four QBs. Maybe Jalen Hurts sneaks in, but you get it. I mean the Washington Redskins made the NFC championship game last year, if that tells you anything, they weren’t on the same level as Baltimore, Buffalo or KC. Burrow’s injury and Jackson’s off year changed things. Still nobody was saying the AFC is way better top to bottom.
 
Nobody compares the Jets, Titans or Browns when saying the AFC is stronger they mean top teams. This year’s more even but preseason most had Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow and Patrick Mahomes as the top four QBs. Maybe Jalen Hurts sneaks in, but you get it. I mean the Washington Redskins made the NFC championship game last year, if that tells you anything, they weren’t on the same level as Baltimore, Buffalo or KC. Burrow’s injury and Jackson’s off year changed things. Still nobody was saying the AFC is way better top to bottom.
Washington only got into the NFC title gane because they got to face a Detroit team who’s entire defensive starting unit was basically crushed by injuries. Detroit was arguably better than Philly for much of the 2024 regular season.
 
Washington only got into the NFC title gane because they got to face a Detroit team who’s entire defensive starting unit was basically crushed by injuries. Detroit was arguably better than Philly for much of the 2024 regular season.
They did sneak by the Texans last year but got beat by the Bills at home. You're right they were probably the second best team in the NFC last year but still not in the league of the other three teams I mentioned.
 
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