Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?

Timely Hero

Jacoby Blows
It wouldn't shock me if ND won less than 3 games in conference. I had this number at 5 1/2. The best win ND has this year is vs Detroit. Pitt was clearly overrated being the 15th ranked team in the nation, but they are much better than ND - even on the road. ND has no depth nor talent - at least not much to speak of.

34-21 +10.9 units YTD.
 

tripp

EOG Master
Re: Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?

Must be some overreaction to the Wagner loss. ND is bad.

On pitt with ya.
 

Timely Hero

Jacoby Blows
Re: Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?

Yeah, Wagner loss was ugly but the games before the holidays frequently cause a few upsets - no focus.
 

Heim

EOG Master
Re: Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?

You are missing something....the current number which is '2'
 

Timely Hero

Jacoby Blows
Re: Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?

You are missing something....the current number which is '2'

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:shoot:

Wrong.
 

Timely Hero

Jacoby Blows
Re: Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?

Now 1 1/2 across the board - I amazingly still like it at 1 1/2 as well. I hit it at 1.
 
Re: Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?

Notre Dame hasn't lost at home in 27 straight games. It's on ESPN2, there will be a raucous home crowd (IrishTim will be leading the student section cheering), and Notre Dame has beaten Pitt the last 3 times they met. I'm just playing devil's advocate, but I think this plays into why the line is where it is.
 

Timely Hero

Jacoby Blows
Re: Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?

Notre Dame hasn't lost at home in 27 straight games. It's on ESPN2, there will be a raucous home crowd (IrishTim will be leading the student section cheering), and Notre Dame has beaten Pitt the last 3 times they met. I'm just playing devil's advocate, but I think this plays into why the line is where it is.

ND was decent to good the past 3 times they beat Pitt. Notre Dame won 27 straight home games because they were good last year, and the year before at the end of the season. They are definitely a better team at home - all college teams are - but I think their prior success had more to do with being good than playing at home. I think what you pointed out might be reflected in the line though, just as a random Wagner loss is. Appreciate the info.
 
Re: Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?

Good luck, Timely. I have been cold with my picks of late, but I took Over 125 Illinois (CRIS). Still available at that number, but I expect it will move.
 

WMtribe17

EOG Dedicated
Re: Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?

Yeah, I am shocked that Pitt is only a small favorite, especially with Abromaitis out for the year with the torn ACL
 

Timely Hero

Jacoby Blows
Re: Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?

Maybe it's a perceived square play, but it seems like easy $ to me. Gl tonight fellas
 

Apple

Banned
Re: Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?

I'm on Pitt too... I actually follow ND closely, watched a few of their games and think they really suck.. I wonder if ppl are overreacting to the Wagner loss or do ppl still think ND is a legit team.

The one thing I do know is the fact that ND sucks. Thats a FACT
 

WMtribe17

EOG Dedicated
Re: Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?

I'm on Pitt too... I actually follow ND closely, watched a few of their games and think they really suck.. I wonder if ppl are overreacting to the Wagner loss or do ppl still think ND is a legit team.

The one thing I do know is the fact that ND sucks. Thats a FACT

Maybe people are overreacting. But I have seen ND play a couple of games and agree with you that they are awful. Honestly, I think Wagner might be better than ND is
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Re: Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?

Efficiency numbers from kenpom.com show Notre Dame defeating Pittsburgh, 68-67.
 

joeblow

EOG Addicted
Re: Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?

I also love pitt ,this thread kinda scares me.
My game plan is if pitt is losing at the half and no big player has more than 2 fouls.I am doublng my play in the 2nd half.I see ND hanging close and fading in the 2nd.
 

Timely Hero

Jacoby Blows
Re: Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?


If you used KenPom's ratings and predictions blindly you'd lose money. KenPom is just another tool to use, and one I do frequently check, but it's certainly not a basis to gamble on. My line is nearly 4 points different from the line - I usually look at anything 2 or more off, when I looked deeper it seemed Pitt was the play.

Not a big "ranked on the road as a small favorite vs an unranked home team" guy but this seems like a spot to ignore that.
 

brians

EOG Dedicated
Re: Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?

Woodall is doubtful tonight. Pitt's offense slows to a grind without their PG. Gibbs moves over to point and struggles to create offense for himself.

ND for me. Under as well.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Re: Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?

This is the kind of game bookmakers love to book at odds of 11-10.
 

High Times

EOG Master
Re: Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?

For me this is a game because it is on ESPN I will watch a little of the game and see how they matchup.

I think you will be able to see if Pitt came to play.

My feeling is that you will get a better in-game line on BOTH teams.

No need to bet this game BEFORE it starts.

:pop:
 

High Times

EOG Master
Re: Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?

If you used KenPom's ratings and predictions blindly you'd lose money. KenPom is just another tool to use, and one I do frequently check, but it's certainly not a basis to gamble on. My line is nearly 4 points different from the line - I usually look at anything 2 or more off, when I looked deeper it seemed Pitt was the play.

Not a big "ranked on the road as a small favorite vs an unranked home team" guy but this seems like a spot to ignore that.

I have no idea who kenpom is and don't care.

What I was saying is that I can see Pitt not being able to put Notre Dame away and Notre Dame winning a close game.

:pop:
 

High Times

EOG Master
Re: Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?

Under is the play and it is still a very good play at 132.

Might be the best bet on the whole board tonight

:btj:
 

High Times

EOG Master
Re: Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?

This Pitt team is a streetball team.

All one-on-one crap when they have the ball.

Will never contend for the championship.

Not a chance
 

High Times

EOG Master
Re: Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?

Pitt isn't a very good TEAM.

Another reason to NOT have pre-season rankings.

Right now there are not close to being a top 25 team.
 

tripp

EOG Master
Re: Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?

Nobody is saying pitt is a title contender. Obviously this team can't hang with Kentucky, UNC, Ohio St etc.
 

WMtribe17

EOG Dedicated
Re: Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?

Couldn't have been more wrong on this one... Pitt better start worrying about making the NCAA tourney
 

IrishTim

EOG Dedicated
Re: Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?

Good win for the Irish. Obviously not as good as last year's top 10 team and probably wont make the tournament, but Grant can be a stud and a goos class coming in next year. Also had our top target for 2013 at this game and in the hunt for a few others. Should be back top 15 in two years. Home win streak of 28 games in Big East is nice to keep going.
 

IrishTim

EOG Dedicated
Re: Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?

ND got hot from the outside at home.. it happens...

It was a lot more than that. They were ice cold in the first half and were only down 1 at half. Gross over-simplification to just say they couldn't miss from 3.
 

Tuckman

Uh Poster
Re: Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?

Under is the play and it is still a very good play at 132.

Might be the best bet on the whole board tonight

:btj:

Not good to steal reagans play and claim its your best bet of the night :lolxmas
 

High Times

EOG Master
Re: Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?

I also know the total got bet down 4 points.

Don't know who did it and don't care who did it. It was still a good under bet at 132.

And I would much rather bet against the move, but this wasn't one of those games.

:houra
 

Teddy kgb

Banned
Re: Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?

If Timely can't pick winners his post should be sent to the proper sub forum........
 

High Times

EOG Master
Re: Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?

I really don't believe that...everyone does at one time or another....

You must not read my posts then.

There's not another Bettor who hates the copying/following that goes on in sports betting.

In my world everyone has to bet their own bets

and

Every bookmaker would have to post their own lines/odds.

The amount of copying/following in this business is sickening.

But that's just me

:scooter
 

High Times

EOG Master
Re: Pitt -1 @ ND? Am I missing something?

You must not read my posts then.

There's not another Bettor who hates the copying/following that goes on in sports betting.

In my world everyone has to bet their own bets

and

Every bookmaker would have to post their own lines/odds.

The amount of copying/following in this business is sickening.

But that's just me

:scooter


To have to follow/copy others to survive is pathetic.

I know I will get blasted by posting this, but

If I couldn't make money with my intelligence from sports betting I would not be around it!

Period.

The day I have to follow anybody (yes anybody) is the day I do something different.

:houra
 
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