RUMOR MILL FROM OFFSHORE

#1
AS WE KNOW CRIS SPORTSBOOK OWNS DON BEST. RUMOR IS BW IS ALSO
AN OWNER IN THIS VENTURE. FURTHERMORE CRIS IS NOT ORIGINATING THEIR OWN
LINES, BUT THEY ARE COMING FROM VEGAS. THIS, IF TRUE, WOULD PUT LINES JUST WHERE
BW WANTS THEM.

VD-- CAN YOU RESEARCH THIS
JK- CAN YOUR FRIEND MICKY AT CRIS VERIFY WHERE LINES ARE ORIGINATING???

ANYONE ELSE HEAR OR KNOW ANYTHING ANYTHING????
 

WVU

EOG Master
#4
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but but but they are where the line originates..... Say it isn't so...2348ji23e
 
#5
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[HR][/HR]u guys are just getting this info????how about checking how many times they put out a fake scratch of a player due to injury like lebron, let billy get down at the better number and then they change it later to say he will play before gametime...trust that site and its info and u are already giving up any edge u have.....including some truly bad halftime score...yes i said bad and untrue scores to let billy get down better at a bad line and then change it to the correct score and halftime line...do u know how many books billy plays at that use don best only for their lines...he of course knows who subscribes and has to use it to his advantage...


weather...forget it...dont believe that either unless u are in the stadium...billys edge isnt only his computers....u can bet on that
 

joeblow

EOG Addicted
#7
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Very interesting post.....:pop:


Not that i have any info about what's going on offshore. But it all makes sense to me.

[HR][/HR]u guys are just getting this info????how about checking how many times they put out a fake scratch of a player due to injury like lebron, let billy get down at the better number and then they change it later to say he will play before gametime...trust that site and its info and u are already giving up any edge u have.....including some truly bad halftime score...yes i said bad and untrue scores to let billy get down better at a bad line and then change it to the correct score and halftime line...do u know how many books billy plays at that use don best only for their lines...he of course knows who subscribes and has to use it to his advantage...


weather...forget it...dont believe that either unless u are in the stadium...billys edge isnt only his computers....u can bet on that
 

$tinky

EOG Senior Member
#8
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I've heard this before too. I never trust what number i see on an odds service as the actual number the book is using. Too easy to manipulate.
 

Bucky

EOG Dedicated
#9
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[HR][/HR]u guys are just getting this info????how about checking how many times they put out a fake scratch of a player due to injury like lebron, let billy get down at the better number and then they change it later to say he will play before gametime...trust that site and its info and u are already giving up any edge u have.....including some truly bad halftime score...yes i said bad and untrue scores to let billy get down better at a bad line and then change it to the correct score and halftime line...do u know how many books billy plays at that use don best only for their lines...he of course knows who subscribes and has to use it to his advantage...


weather...forget it...dont believe that either unless u are in the stadium...billys edge isnt only his computers....u can bet on that
Great Post! May the Bird of Paradise fly up their "fvcking" nose and an elephant caress them with his toes!
 
#10
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BW has no juice at CRIS....CRIS consults with a guy from Vegas but it is up to the head linesguy to use the number given and put up his own...and you can take that to the bank...damn, I only worked there for a number of years...

CRIS totally trusts and respects the head guy there...
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
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BW never plays any game without an edge whether it's a crooked roulette wheel, business investments with government officials in his pocket or sporting events in which he has a 1-4% edge because of superior information and/or pointspread manipulation.

I once heard BW convinced the powers-that-be at Don Best to promote Mid-American Conference football games from the added board to the main rotation so he could make larger wagers on the league most associated with head-scratching results.

Interesting thread, Bernie.
 

newport2

EOG Dedicated
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Billy is and will always be a gambler at heart. He abhors losing. Getting his nose wide open is still in his DNA.
 
#17
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CRIS does not "MAKE" there own lines in the sense of a model producing lines out of there office but they have a consensus of many different lines that Jack goes over and he puts out the best line in his opinion. But he is not spitting info into a model to spit out a line for him. They leave that up to the sharps to straighten them out.


As for Don Best: If your a bettor and do not know that books use the screen to manipulate lines then you should find another job. Spiro was famous for this for years. Catalina does it. Delmar used to when they were on the screen. You have to know this in order to read the market. If you look close enough you can spot moves before they are happening.

Although there was much more fucking with the screen years ago.
 
#18
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I know the last 3 guys that worked the front desk would wake up and clear their eyes and take a phone call and open the lines.

Not much line making going on there with those guys.

And one of them would have white shit falling from his nose all the time. I'm sure that dude wasn't making his own lines (or was he?)

:cheers
 
#25
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Cris has several consultants. They used to have Ken White, Jeff W., and a couple more. They take their opinions (consensus) and open up first hence "where the line originates". Certain players are allowed to bet and they move their line accordingly. 99% of the other BMs would never open first and open themselves up to middles so large you can drive a truck through but they book according to action and eliminate the middles or at least try to. Their head linemaker, bookmaker's job is to maximize the wins and minimizes the losses. I have never worked there but its no secret how they run their business.
 
#31
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CRIS does not "MAKE" there own lines in the sense of a model producing lines out of there office but they have a consensus of many different lines that Jack goes over and he puts out the best line in his opinion. But he is not spitting info into a model to spit out a line for him. They leave that up to the sharps to straighten them out.


As for Don Best: If your a bettor and do not know that books use the screen to manipulate lines then you should find another job. Spiro was famous for this for years. Catalina does it. Delmar used to when they were on the screen. You have to know this in order to read the market. If you look close enough you can spot moves before they are happening.

Although there was much more fucking with the screen years ago.
When I was still working and putting up late college halftimes for CRIS in football and basketball, Olympic used to hang bad numbers all the time, hoping that linesmakers at night would just put the same number up so that Olympic could bet into whoever followed..it was comical...and of course when you called Olympic, the line was not available...
 
#32
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It was common for Olympic to be off by at least 4/5 points in basketball halftimes...and when the dust settled after the first 45 seconds or so, everyone on the Don Best would be within a half point of the right number...I'm talking 6 years ago..
 
#38
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M---y is a friend of mine. he has calmed down a little in his aging years. currently he's
a successful agent--as everyone should be if their clients pay--and that is a big IF.
by the way thanks to all taking the time to contribute to this thread....
 

Ace

EOG Veteran
#39
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M---y is a friend of mine. he has calmed down a little in his aging years. currently he's
a successful agent--as everyone should be if their clients pay--and that is a big IF.
by the way thanks to all taking the time to contribute to this thread....
since he is a friend of yours why don't you see if he'll offer 10 cent baseball lins through the regular season
 
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