Santa Anita announced it has closed racing totally

#5
The experts can't figure it out. There has been a ton of rain here, including today through Friday.
So the surface is causing horses to break down, right? Change the surface. I thought the whole point of synthetic was to be safer for horses, if it's not, then you abandon that idea.
 

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So the surface is causing horses to break down, right? Change the surface. I thought the whole point of synthetic was to be safer for horses, if it's not, then you abandon that idea.
People don't like betting synthetic racing. It makes fast horses average, and slow horses average. It's like racing socialism.
 
#11
So the surface is causing horses to break down, right? Change the surface. I thought the whole point of synthetic was to be safer for horses, if it's not, then you abandon that idea.
They did switch back to dirt with a sand base. The sand I believe was to help absorb the water. Obviously not working to well. I wish Crick would chime in, I'm sure he could explain it way better than me. But he does't seem to post here much any more. Like JK said, sad.
 
#12
They did switch back to dirt with a sand base. The sand I believe was to help absorb the water. Obviously not working to well. I wish Crick would chime in, I'm sure he could explain it way better than me. But he does't seem to post here much any more. Like JK said, sad.
I didn't know that, you're saying that Santa Anita no longer has a synthetic surface?
 
#17
The CHRB mandated synthetic at all major California Thoroughbred horse racing tracks by 2007 in order to reduce horse injuries. Basically it didn't work so Santa Anita switched back to dirt in 2010. Del Mar switched back to dirt in 2015. Golden Gate Fields in the SF Bay Area continues to use synthetic.
 
#19
I don’t think it would be long until most tracks are synthetic. Way safer, though I can’t stand the racing.

They need to contact people who do the surfaces on the east coast tracks. Nyra tracks and laurel have taken so much precipitation and you very rarely see breakdowns from surface issues.
 

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#25
I don’t think it would be long until most tracks are synthetic. Way safer, though I can’t stand the racing.

They need to contact people who do the surfaces on the east coast tracks. Nyra tracks and laurel have taken so much precipitation and you very rarely see breakdowns from surface issues.
It won't happen. Handle down considerably at most venues that switched to synthetic. Makes sense at Turfway, who races during winter. Maybe even Woodbine in Toronto. But makes no sense in California, makes no sense at tracks like Keeneland or Arlington, who do not race in winter.
 

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#27
I don't expect synthetics to make a comeback. From a wagering standpoint I'm fine with synthetics.I loved the HOL cushion track.
I don't know how difficult it was to maintain them or the long term effects for horses training over them but I'm guessing GG has far fewer breakdowns than SoCal with much cheaper " stock"
 
#34
It's certainly possible that cheap horses, who dont get the care and attention of the top horses, would be more likely to run with an injury or undiagnosed condition, which could of course lead to a breakdown. Other than that they could be stronger, since they probably run more often and are trained harder.
 

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#37
You don’t think safety becomes more prioritized if peta makes a strong effort to ban horse racing?
This is nothing new. Arlington had a rash of breakdowns in 2006 and they panicked, and took out their regular dirt surface and installed Polytrack. The public didn't like it, and a number of owners and trainers left. Breakdowns may have been down, but horses were getting other kinds of injuries; mostly soft tissue injuries. Jockeys don't like it either; there is virtually no "give" to the surface if they are thrown off the horse. Rene Douglas and Michael Straight both found that out in 2009, and they are still paralyzed.
 
#40
apparently its been determined running over the rain-soaked surfaces uneven surfaces in prior races, horses developed issues that were unknown or undetected....down the road better to cancel the card as opposed to running on a mess of a surface
 
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