So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

mofome

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Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

Nice post. Im not looking for any hand outs or anything I didnt even accept the $100 free play. It was just a unfortunate error compiled by bad luck.

The 1st time I sent them money they accidentally gave me my bonus twice. When I saw the error I called Mike himself he thanked me for calling and told me most guys wouldnt have done that.

I got over being upset at the situation awhile ago but to have some prick like reload come in and act such an asshole got me all riled up about the again.


You never seemed too ugly about the situation with the book from the get go. The site (eog) and BFC are thankful for your disposition throughout the thread. Well, I assume that BFC is happy with how calmly you recited the things that happened from your pov. No one wants to be called a shot taker, I don't think reload meant that to come out as harshly as it did. I know we've seen some shot takers cry when a wager was canceled after they tried to pound a line that was over 1,000 cents off. The term shot taker should be reserved for people such as those.
 

BCTTWR

EOG Dedicated
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

Timetopay exposed this fraud book. 46 people bet the 1st half line at -265 with some emptying their accounts, and the line did not move? LOL! Now we know why they cancelled all the bets. They failed to move the line and got all one sided action.
 

Cannon

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Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

I took a 2 dime shot at CRIS a few years ago got +11 1/2 instead of -11 1/2 I think it was the first half of an Airforce NCAAB game. They corrected it soon after I made the bet. Guess what the - 11 1/2 lost but I got paid on the + 11 1/2. Nothing was ever said they just paid it. That is what a A book does. Ruca found out what a D book does.
 

Cannon

Banned
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

Timetopay exposed this fraud book. 46 people bet the 1st half line at -265 with some emptying their accounts, and the line did not move? LOL! Now we know why they cancelled all the bets. They failed to move the line and got all one sided action.


They were out playing golf they were not in the office.
 

biggamer3

EOG Master
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

Can someone tell me this also was a bad line?

I want my money back from DSI :doh1

05/13/2009 by WIRELESS at 03:22 PM <table class="title" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td class="headertxtCell"> [#57284076] STRAIGHT BET (Risking: 105.00 - To Win: 525.00) </td><td class="statusimgCell"> </td></tr></tbody></table><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr class="oddRow"><td class="dateCell">05/13/2009 - 06:15 PM</td><td class="idCell">NBA </td><td class="pickCell">[739] DAL GM5 +500
Score: DAL GM5(110) - DEN GM5(124)</td><td class="statusimgCell">L</td></tr></tbody></table>

Please someone find a line where Pinny had Dallas +300 or so, i might have a case against DSI

I am looking through all my previous losing wagers this month to see if i got some raw lines
 

Cannon

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Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

Newly launched online sportsbook BetFirstClass (betfirstclass.com) enters TheOnlinewire Sportsbook Rating Guide with a rating of 3 (high risk).
Allegedly the offspring of an established credit operation, BetFirstClass debut was marked by several warning signs.
The domain name is set to expire one year from today, a common denominator among fly-by-night operators.
Most of the website's text content such as general rules and other segments are copy/pasted from reputable sportsbook operators. This happens to be another common element to deposit only operators.
Last, but not least, BetFirstClass shares technical facilities such as web platform, IP address and wagering software currently utilized by stiff operators.
Albeit still unable to verify BetFirstClass' management claims, TheOnlinewire believes the numerous warning signs are more than sufficient to prompt an initial warning about this operator.
Players are strongly advised to tread with extreme caution at best. With many reputable options out there players are certainly better off avoiding BetFirstClass altogether.
TOW Ratings - Published August 27 2008 - 6.15am ET
 

Cannon

Banned
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

WOW this is not good.



The domain name is set to expire one year from today, a common denominator among fly-by-night operators.
Most of the website's text content such as general rules and other segments are copy/pasted from reputable sportsbook operators. This happens to be another common element to deposit only operators.

Last, but not least, BetFirstClass shares technical facilities such as web platform, IP address and wagering software currently utilized by stiff operators
 
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

A lot of damage has been done here.

I thought books had software to auto move lines ? ( Pinny style), or at least something to alert them them to bets coming in one sided.

What happens at BFC when a line is getting steamed on something less than an NBA playoff game ?

I would like to hear what Justin7 ( or Ganchrow) from SBR thinks of this situation.

Also, BFC implies that the amount bet is really critical to determining if the line is bad or not.

BFC should have known this thread would happen if Denver covered H1, and all the bad publicity that would result, for what 15k or so ?, much less if they decided to buy out of their error with Pinny.

Now they look horrible. Should have ate this one !
 

Cannon

Banned
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

WOW read all this.
AK Goes Into Detail Why You Should Avoid BetFirstClass.com

December 29, 2008 by AK - 1 Comment

<p>After visiting several websites I noticed there was a lot of discussion regarding a sportsbook operator called betfirstclass. Who is this? What do they offer? And most importantly who are they associated with?</p>
<p>I decided to investigate into this organization to dig up the real answers.</p>
<p>I decided to start my investigation on betfirstclass at SBR.com and noticed they have a D Rating. I then looked into sbrforum.com and noticed they have been shilling over on the forum trying to pick up signups on the way and fortunatilly moderator bigboydan caught on right away and started filtering out there post.</p>
<p>I want to keep your attention on this matter but just in case You decide not to read this entire section on betfirstclass.com You should not wager there. This is a sportsbook You want to avoid at all cost!</p>
<p>I started posting at several other forums where they was posting and continuely warned members and viewers to play at risk with betfirstclass until a better determination could be made if they should be used as a sportsbook out. Obviously this upset the guys behind Betfirstclass and they decided they wanted to get in contact with me via msn messenger and on the phone.They informed me and like they have others all over the forums they were not associated with no other sportsbook or casino and they have never slow paid or stiffed anybody.</p>
<p>I wanted to verify this and decided to go on a google hunt and also ask around if anyone has heard anything about them and if anyone actually could tell me who they are. I was not finding much at the moment regarding betfirstclass however on sbr rating guide I noticed some very disturbing news.</p>
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<p>This is far from what Michael was informing me at betfirstclass. I wanted to investigate this more and after speaking to Michael on Msn Messenger he slipped out his own personal business phone number where I could call him to discuss further.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>So You might ask, why is that important?</p>
<p>I decided to go to google and do a number search with this number and this is what popped up.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Ok so who is wagerrightonline? Well short answer is simple, its a service Michael uses and admits to on another website. I decided to go into more details on wagerrightonline.com and search there entire website looking for different phone numbers where they could possibly lead me farther into my investigation. I was about to move to my next lead and WAMMMM I found a number that was not listed anywhere else on the website except a depositing page link at the bottom as they forgot to delete it.</p>
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<p>SO then I decided to go back to Google and type in the 888-400-1993 phone number and thats when it starts getting real nasty.</p>
<p>Here is the google result page for that phone number.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>SOOOO Who is Betsportsinc.com ? Your about to get your answer....</p>
<p> </p>
<p>The same company that uses a very rare software company MXA famous for scam sportsbook BetCascade. Im digged good and decided to learn more about this scam sportsbook Betsportsinc and low behold a guy named Michael "ran there service" I was also able to come up with some good dirt regarding negative feedback regarding them from therx</p>
<p> </p>
<p>BetsportsInc went on defense when they was exposed to being part of BetCascade. Do you see they said ask for Amber or Michael? look below... well thats odd... Same names that answer the phones for BetFirstClass and Michael admits to at another forum before this information came out as a poster from sbr complained they where getting stiffed at betfirstclass.</p>
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<p>So who is this OSUCOWBOY poster and how is he associated with at betsportsinc? This is according to OSUCOWBOYS at SBR.</p>
<p>"Betsportsinc.com are a new book recently started by a gringo that
had a large store and had a huge " sheet" with a VERY REPUTABLE book in
CR.
He has been in the business for 20 years
and has never stiffed a soul. (Including me and I have had a figure as
large as 30K with him over the last 15 years)"
</p>
<p>So how is Osucowboy associated with betfirstclass? This is a thread started by him right here at SBR, it sure would appear he is pumping up the same scamming sportsbook just under a new name. 1, they have the same names, 2, same software provider and last but not least the same poor spelling. </p>
<p>"He is a gringo friend of mine living in Costa Rica. I have known him
for 15 years and still talk to him regularly. He had a large store here
in the states and moved down south 2.5 years ago. He lives in Escazu
and runs his shop from an office in San Jose. I can tell you from
experience that your money is SAFE and that getting paid in a timely
manner has NEVER been a problem for any of his customers. I have had a
figure as large as 40K with the guy and never sweated for a minute it
was gonna get handled."
</p>
<p>After players complained about getting stiffed from BetSportsInc, Osucowboy disapeared from SBR and landed himself on another forum..</p>
<p>Michael from BetFirstClass has been quite over the past 8 hours and is avoiding answers to these questions on the forums. However he was still attempting after exposing him of his actions trying to get me to be on his webmaster program. Most legit sportsbooks offer webmasters anywhere between 20-35% net loss on players You send there. He was offering a 90% net loss return to me if I joined his webmaster program! Considering all the cashout fees, customer service, and other related charges for running a sportsbook there is no way he could make a profit and very likely to show a negative earn possition.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>There booking stratagy is doomed for failure also. Just several days ago they offered an overtime line on the monday night football game. The OT line was Pittsburgh -140, Baltimore +110. Baltimore wins the toss, rather than changing the line he leaves it at Balt +110. Its been said Michael has a wagering problem as well.</p>
<p>I hope I have went into enuff details to expose there lies and there business structure for You to want to laugh about this joke of a organization and to never signup there.</p>
<p>AK</p>
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johnnystud

10/4/2008 3:16 AM

Thanks for the information
 
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

I took a 2 dime shot at CRIS a few years ago got +11 1/2 instead of -11 1/2 I think it was the first half of an Airforce NCAAB game. They corrected it soon after I made the bet. Guess what the - 11 1/2 lost but I got paid on the + 11 1/2. Nothing was ever said they just paid it. That is what a A book does. Ruca found out what a D book does.

Do you want this merged with post #30 as you said the same thing there?
 

Cannon

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Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

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I'm not asking ANYONE to say great things about "US"

Just asking them NOT to post BS Lies & let time tell if we actually pay & run decent shop, we had unreal amount of Props, alt run lines, qtr lines etc etc etc & as NBA Pointed out we run lines way Different than anyone else EXAMPLE TULSA -25.5 yesterday when line was -23 -23.5
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ATX

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Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

Does AK still post here? I mean is he banned?
 

Cannon

Banned
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

Pointed out we run lines way Different than anyone else EXAMPLE TULSA -25.5 yesterday when line was -23 -23.5


Well that is not going to help the BFC cause RUCA

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joeybagadonuts

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Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

WOW read all this.
AK Goes Into Detail Why You Should Avoid BetFirstClass.com

December 29, 2008 by AK - 1 Comment

<p>After visiting several websites I noticed there was a lot of discussion regarding a sportsbook operator called betfirstclass. Who is this? What do they offer? And most importantly who are they associated with?</p>
<p>I decided to investigate into this organization to dig up the real answers.</p>
<p>I decided to start my investigation on betfirstclass at SBR.com and noticed they have a D Rating. I then looked into sbrforum.com and noticed they have been shilling over on the forum trying to pick up signups on the way and fortunatilly moderator bigboydan caught on right away and started filtering out there post.</p>
<p>I want to keep your attention on this matter but just in case You decide not to read this entire section on betfirstclass.com You should not wager there. This is a sportsbook You want to avoid at all cost!</p>
<p>I started posting at several other forums where they was posting and continuely warned members and viewers to play at risk with betfirstclass until a better determination could be made if they should be used as a sportsbook out. Obviously this upset the guys behind Betfirstclass and they decided they wanted to get in contact with me via msn messenger and on the phone.They informed me and like they have others all over the forums they were not associated with no other sportsbook or casino and they have never slow paid or stiffed anybody.</p>
<p>I wanted to verify this and decided to go on a google hunt and also ask around if anyone has heard anything about them and if anyone actually could tell me who they are. I was not finding much at the moment regarding betfirstclass however on sbr rating guide I noticed some very disturbing news.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>This is far from what Michael was informing me at betfirstclass. I wanted to investigate this more and after speaking to Michael on Msn Messenger he slipped out his own personal business phone number where I could call him to discuss further.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>So You might ask, why is that important?</p>
<p>I decided to go to google and do a number search with this number and this is what popped up.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Ok so who is wagerrightonline? Well short answer is simple, its a service Michael uses and admits to on another website. I decided to go into more details on wagerrightonline.com and search there entire website looking for different phone numbers where they could possibly lead me farther into my investigation. I was about to move to my next lead and WAMMMM I found a number that was not listed anywhere else on the website except a depositing page link at the bottom as they forgot to delete it.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>SO then I decided to go back to Google and type in the 888-400-1993 phone number and thats when it starts getting real nasty.</p>
<p>Here is the google result page for that phone number.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>SOOOO Who is Betsportsinc.com ? Your about to get your answer....</p>
<p> </p>
<p>The same company that uses a very rare software company MXA famous for scam sportsbook BetCascade. Im digged good and decided to learn more about this scam sportsbook Betsportsinc and low behold a guy named Michael "ran there service" I was also able to come up with some good dirt regarding negative feedback regarding them from therx</p>
<p> </p>
<p>BetsportsInc went on defense when they was exposed to being part of BetCascade. Do you see they said ask for Amber or Michael? look below... well thats odd... Same names that answer the phones for BetFirstClass and Michael admits to at another forum before this information came out as a poster from sbr complained they where getting stiffed at betfirstclass.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>So who is this OSUCOWBOY poster and how is he associated with at betsportsinc? This is according to OSUCOWBOYS at SBR.</p>
<p>"Betsportsinc.com are a new book recently started by a gringo that
had a large store and had a huge " sheet" with a VERY REPUTABLE book in
CR.
He has been in the business for 20 years
and has never stiffed a soul. (Including me and I have had a figure as
large as 30K with him over the last 15 years)"
</p>
<p>So how is Osucowboy associated with betfirstclass? This is a thread started by him right here at SBR, it sure would appear he is pumping up the same scamming sportsbook just under a new name. 1, they have the same names, 2, same software provider and last but not least the same poor spelling. </p>
<p>"He is a gringo friend of mine living in Costa Rica. I have known him
for 15 years and still talk to him regularly. He had a large store here
in the states and moved down south 2.5 years ago. He lives in Escazu
and runs his shop from an office in San Jose. I can tell you from
experience that your money is SAFE and that getting paid in a timely
manner has NEVER been a problem for any of his customers. I have had a
figure as large as 40K with the guy and never sweated for a minute it
was gonna get handled."
</p>
<p>After players complained about getting stiffed from BetSportsInc, Osucowboy disapeared from SBR and landed himself on another forum..</p>
<p>Michael from BetFirstClass has been quite over the past 8 hours and is avoiding answers to these questions on the forums. However he was still attempting after exposing him of his actions trying to get me to be on his webmaster program. Most legit sportsbooks offer webmasters anywhere between 20-35% net loss on players You send there. He was offering a 90% net loss return to me if I joined his webmaster program! Considering all the cashout fees, customer service, and other related charges for running a sportsbook there is no way he could make a profit and very likely to show a negative earn possition.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>There booking stratagy is doomed for failure also. Just several days ago they offered an overtime line on the monday night football game. The OT line was Pittsburgh -140, Baltimore +110. Baltimore wins the toss, rather than changing the line he leaves it at Balt +110. Its been said Michael has a wagering problem as well.</p>
<p>I hope I have went into enuff details to expose there lies and there business structure for You to want to laugh about this joke of a organization and to never signup there.</p>
<p>AK</p>
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johnnystud

10/4/2008 3:16 AM

Thanks for the information

As much as I don't trust BFC, and would NEVER after today send them a penny, keep in mind that post above was by AK, one of the biggest scammers EVER. He does seem to have cleaned up his act the last few years, so it's probably mostly credible. He probably tried his usual extortion methods and failed, so he posted it for all to see.
 

Timetopay

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They promoting shit like that no fucking way they can cancel those bets.

Are they fucking nuts:shoot:
 
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joeybagadonuts

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Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

Does AK still post here? I mean is he banned?

Pretty sure he is banded here, MW, and TheRx. He seems to have less scamming going on these days, though, so maybe they let him back.
 

Cannon

Banned
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

They admit that the way they run lines is different than anyone else. That makes RUCA's case very strong and the deffense would like to send this to the jury for a vote.
 

ATX

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Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

AK usually has an opinion on things, and I wouldn't mind hearing it.
 

mofome

Banned
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

AK was allowed to post here, but it went nuts about something and got banned. I think he blamed me. I get blamed for most of the worlds problems though.
 

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<HR style="COLOR: #2b295e" SIZE=1>Let me state for the 333rd time

PINNY = BEST BOOK ON PLANET

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<HR style="COLOR: #2b295e" SIZE=1>Let me state for the 333rd time

PINNY = BEST BOOK ON PLANET

and you get Better Lines/Juice there 90% Time

That said this UFC Fight One hour ago

PINNY CLOSES @ -831

B-F-C CLOSES @ -650

so, the math Genious that was comparing our expected Hold % VS Pinny's on The M-L of Superbowl, please provide us the exact some mathematically comparison on the 2 lines above please

ANYONE that Bet FABER - 650 & WON-easy feel free chime in
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<HR style="COLOR: #2b295e" SIZE=1>LOL
LOL
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no no no no & no, simply saying the above poster picked out an Instance where we had Much worse line than Pinny & granted MOST of the TIME we Probably will, But anyone with some "INFO" can find many spots where we offer the Very Best line on ALL sports, Especially if you Like CBB Dogs

someone that Plays here, please elaborate on this, as YOU would know more what we Offer than me / I'm more into VOLUME and pleasing my agents & clients than researching spreads . . . . . .

Make-sense????
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ATX

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Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

now AK would never do something like that would he? I wouldn't mind hearing what he has something to say (not about being banned though).
 

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Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

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</TD><TD class=alt1 id=td_post_1910356 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #2b295e 1px solid"> Re: PINNY VS B-F-C
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So will you beat Pinny's juice and lines on hoops and foots from now on? If so, I will come on here and gloat for you.
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DUST--BABY

90% time you get Better Prcing @ Pinny

altho, I was Under Impression they closed doors to Most U.S. clients, again THEY ARE THE--BEST

I'm simply stating if you do "Homework" Like WVU, MR NBA, HOGAN, OSU and more you can find Lines HERE better than anywhere

IE G-Town -4 2nd HF today (LOSER) but line closed 5-everywhere
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Cannon

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Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

Since their domain expires Aug 27th 2009 I guess they won't be here for foots.
 

Cannon

Banned
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

with some "INFO" can find many spots where we offer the Very Best line on ALL sports,


I think Ruca found one of those then he can't get paid then he gets mad and loses all his money. He got screwed. Give him his money back on the second half plus his first half winner and trasfer it to 5 dimes
 

Cannon

Banned
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

That said this UFC Fight One hour ago

PINNY CLOSES @ -831

B-F-C CLOSES @ -650


Wow those guys that got paid were lucky as hell -181 difference from Pinny.

Ruca was not off that much. He found one of the 10 % times when BFC had the best line. Still could not get paid what a crime.
 

Cannon

Banned
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

I'm simply stating if you do "Homework" Like WVU, MR NBA, HOGAN, OSU and more you can find Lines HERE better than anywhere


RUCA don't ever let us catch you doing homework again.
 

Cannon

Banned
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

I'm more into VOLUME and pleasing my agents & clients than researching spreads . . . . . .

Make-sense????




Ruca they must have had a policy change today. Now they research spreads and screw the customers. I bet this new policy change helps the bottom line at the end of the month.
 

Cannon

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Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

This thread will go down in history with the great thread of Chuck Luck when he was pulling for both sides of the same game in NCAAF. He posted he had one side then during ingame threads he was pulling for the other team because he does not bet real money and gives out both sides. he had no clue what was going on. This thread might top that one.
 
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

TTP: All those examples certainly do make this cancellation look very suspect, as BFC sure has sold the opinionated line angle before.

Perhaps BFC took some huge early phone in bet on Dallas H1 ML ( maybe +230 or so), and decided to offer a nice price on Denver (-265), because they had 20k+ on the dog ?

I just don't think this was off enough to cancel, esp. if you consider ( in advance) what the ramifications will be.

Now they can't really back down, and pay everybody, with the damage done, and no shot of winning the 45k or so, that was risked.

They were starting to build a good reputation before this....
 

Cannon

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Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

Anyone think I can extort a free $25 play from BFC if I shut the fvck up?:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO


Hey Ruca bet my NBA I am rolling and will get your money back.
 

Cannon

Banned
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

I can't wait for the next move BFC on the EOG. They want people to bet their lines that they have that are the best out there they encourage you to find the line they have that is off from the other books.. Perhaps they had info Dallas was going to win the first half and they droped the line to get heavy Denver action then got info that said Dallas was going to crap out the first half and they cancelled the bets. This is very possible.
 

Cannon

Banned
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

Give Ruca his first half money and refund his second half bet you baited him on.
 
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

Give Ruca his first half money and refund his second half bet you baited him on.

Then you have to do it for everyone else,too !

Aren't almost all BFC clients also EOG posters ?

This is too messy now ! I'd be shocked if BFC decides to pay bets they canceled before the game started.
 

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Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

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</td><td class="alt1" id="td_post_1910339" style="border-right: 1px solid rgb(43, 41, 94);"> PINNY VS B-F-C
<hr style="color: rgb(43, 41, 94);" size="1">Let me state for the 333rd time

PINNY = BEST BOOK ON PLANET

and you get Better Lines/Juice there 90% Time

That said this UFC Fight One hour ago

PINNY CLOSES @ -831

B-F-C CLOSES @ -650

so, the math Genious that was comparing our expected Hold % VS Pinny's on The M-L of Superbowl, please provide us the exact some mathematically comparison on the 2 lines above please

ANYONE that Bet FABER - 650 & WON-easy feel free chime in
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haha wow that makes bfc look horrible.

so 181 cent difference they brag about having, but when it's maybe a 25 cent difference from other books they accuse guys of being shot takers and trying to steal from the book and cancel the wager?

bfc might not even deserve that d rating now:doh1
 
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