So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

C

ChuckyG

EOG Master
Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

Moreso than picks, I'd like to hear a few guidelines from Dink:

1) Prefer totals? Or sides?
2) NHL betting is not so ez. The shootouts make it complicated. You always bet "Regulation only"? Or "OT, including shootout"?
3) What about handicap line? +1.5, or -1.5. You ever touch these lines?
4) Can you beat 20-cent lines? Or does someone have to bet 10-cent lines to beat NHL?
5) Package includes Playoffs, I assume. Are u better in Reg Sea? Or playoffs?
 
brians

brians

EOG Dedicated
Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

Doughboy said:
Dink is getting an unfair shake here. He is selling picks because, well, he can. Isn't the whole point of gambling to make money? Well, he's doing that and if the plays are successful he'll make even more because he bets his plays. I fail to see the wrongfulness in any of this, but I am giving him the benefit of the doubt that he did not post picks knowing he wanted to sell them the next season. He has stated that was not his intention, rather one thing led to another.

I think much of the animosity stems from the fact posters wanted to follow another great season of his. Can you blame him for making some coin off it?
Click to expand...
Dink really hasn't marketed it either, he hinted about it a while ago but it certainly doesn't feel like this is the culmination of a grand plan like some are insinuating.

JK said he was "conflicted" about it, that's the perfect term for it. Dink's explanation on the radio show last night was almost apologetic ... and it felt genuine.

Dink's reactions and posts in this thread have been very civil as well. I guess I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt as well.

So would you consider paying for Dinks plays? Do you handicap the NHL yourself?
 
Doughy

Doughy

2
Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

brians said:
Dink really hasn't marketed it either, he hinted about it a while ago but it certainly doesn't feel like this is the culmination of a grand plan like some are insinuating.

JK said he was "conflicted" about it, that's the perfect term for it. Dink's explanation on the radio show last night was almost apologetic ... and it felt genuine.

Dink's reactions and posts in this thread have been very civil as well. I guess I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt as well.

So would you consider paying for Dinks plays? Do you handicap the NHL yourself?
Click to expand...
I would not consider paying for his plays because I do not wager high enough to justify the cost, not because of any reservations about his ability to consistently win. I barely touch the NHL and probably should avoid it altogether. You?
 
Sleepy

Sleepy

EOG Master
Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

Doughboy said:
I would not consider paying for his plays because I do not wager high enough to justify the cost, not because of any reservations about his ability to consistently win. I barely touch the NHL and probably should avoid it altogether. You?
Click to expand...

He is high asking 3k for the picks. RAS has had winning seasons every year in both basketball and football and charges half the price. He has one lucky season where every close game went his way. He even said himself he was lucky to win every shootout. I doubt the luck falls the same way this year and kharma going to bit him in the ass asking for a ridiculous amount.
 
2

2W2P2S

EOG Dedicated
Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

Views of this thread soon to exceed views of his movie.
 
HenryHill

HenryHill

2
Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

John Kelly said:
I love Dink but his decision to sell selections is curious.

I have a healthy distaste for the sports advisory business and seeing Dink in the same pool as Jim Feist, Wayne Root, Ray Palmer, etc. is disturbing.

I guess if Edward Golden (Right Angle Sports) sells college basketball plays and people respect him, then Dink is allowed to sell winning NHL plays and not lose the tremendous respect he's enjoyed from the sports gambling fraternity.

I'm conflicted.
Click to expand...

LOL, i get a call about once a month from "The Ray Palmer Investment Group". No clue how they got my number, obviously some book sold it to them or something...have told them a dozen times to take me off their list, but they always call back...ive just accepted ill be getting calls from the forever haha..also on sunday mornings on my local sportstalk station fox sports 570, he is on for an hour yelling at everyone to call him before making their plays and that unless you talk to him, you are destined for failure.

What a character.
 
D

dinkenson

EOG Dedicated
Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

funny about the major wager questions as i am just getting back from a meal with total square..
 
G

groovinmahoovin

2
Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

Doughboy said:
I think much of the animosity stems from the fact posters wanted to follow another great season of his. Can you blame him for making some coin off it?
Click to expand...

Claiming that he expects to win 25-30 units next season because he ran godlike the previous year is probably a good part of it. No one who's been doing this for a long time expects a 16-17% ROI to be sustainable.

I wasn't going to follow his picks this year regardless since the sample size is still too small and my much bigger concern is whether I can actually get down on the picks, so if I chose to follow him I'd probably prefer paying a bit for less competition (the main reason I don't follow any touts is that I can't get down on the plays of any of the good ones), so my criticism is solely unbiased.
 
Woodrow Wilson

Woodrow Wilson

EOG Dedicated
Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

joeybagadonuts said:
Definitely hypocritical on his part.

The only reason it's hard to be mad is bc Dink will at least in all likelihood make his clients $. Other than RAS, there aren't really many you could say that about.
Click to expand...

http://www.eogradio.com/2013/01/08/the-eog-sports-hour-for-010813/

41:00 - 42:35 Dink denies then later admits he has entered a new aspect of the betting world. Hopefully Dink will continue being on the radio every Tuesday.

:yay
 
D

dinkenson

EOG Dedicated
Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

ChuckyG said:
Moreso than picks, I'd like to hear a few guidelines from Dink:

1) Prefer totals? Or sides?
2) NHL betting is not so ez. The shootouts make it complicated. You always bet "Regulation only"? Or "OT, including shootout"?
3) What about handicap line? +1.5, or -1.5. You ever touch these lines?
4) Can you beat 20-cent lines? Or does someone have to bet 10-cent lines to beat NHL?
5) Package includes Playoffs, I assume. Are u better in Reg Sea? Or playoffs?
Click to expand...

sides....but not by much
i bet both...depending on the team but for the sake of fairness will play everything ot included
very very rarely play the 1 1/2 goal line
there are no 10 cent lines as pinny will be using a weighted line and the average number will be closer to -113...can be a 20 cent line
regular season
 
brians

brians

EOG Dedicated
Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

Doughboy said:
I would not consider paying for his plays because I do not wager high enough to justify the cost, not because of any reservations about his ability to consistently win. I barely touch the NHL and probably should avoid it altogether. You?
Click to expand...
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't running through some figures just to see how it might play out. It goes against my general principles but I am curious and the fact that it's the NHL (something I don't handicap) makes it all the more intriguing.
 
D

dinkenson

EOG Dedicated
Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

there will be a pro rated buy out for anyone who wants to quit after one month....two thirds of your money back....i will not refund any players money if i lose nor ask for extra if i crush ....
 
D

dinkenson

EOG Dedicated
Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

i adore some of my major wager friends...hope i can say the same thing about some eog people five years from now
 
Woodrow Wilson

Woodrow Wilson

EOG Dedicated
Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

dinkenson said:
there will be a pro rated buy out for anyone who wants to quit after one month....two thirds of your money back....i will not refund any players money if i lose nor ask for extra if i crush ....
Click to expand...

And you offered +200 that you'll have a winning season. Cool deal for those taking the +200 "no" price.

It's your service of course, but I personally think you should only offer the "back out/quit" option if you are - units after one month.

:pop:
 
silvereye

silvereye

2
Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

groovinmahoovin said:
In 2011, I won something like 20u over 300 plays posted to RTP
Click to expand...

even dink succumbed to the dark side. would not be surprised to see you becoming one too. i mean, why even waste time documenting and posting your plays if you have nothing to sell?

2W2P2S said:
In case he has you on ignore, now he can read the post.
Click to expand...

:LMAO


Brick said:
I will take under 15 units made if anyone is interested
Click to expand...

me too. any takers?

2W2P2S said:
Views of this thread soon to exceed views of his movie.
Click to expand...

:LMAO
 
D

dinkenson

EOG Dedicated
Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

if you doubting thomas' remember i did not ask for my picks to be documented...everyone here wanted it and i refused ....munson made the choice to do so.....so much for the master plan theory......
 
D

dinkenson

EOG Dedicated
Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

HI McDonough said:
Dink - let me know how to get you my dough. I don't listen to the EOG radio stuff, but I sure did appreciate you last season. If Munson wants to be a client, I will pay for half of his too. If not for my trust in his recordkeeping, I would have never known about you or BG.
Click to expand...

very nice thought....anyone who won last season and wants to show their appreciation can do so by contributing to caroline's charity at socaltbrescue.org
 
scrimmage

scrimmage

What you contemplate you imitate
Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

Herbie said:
I don't think it is any secret that Billy Walters pays for information so I'm not sure why everyone is quick to dismiss the idea...

If someone has an edge, like Mathy pointed out indirectly, it is a becomes a mathematical equation if it is +EV/-EV to pay for that information based on your roll and ability to get money down.
Click to expand...
An "edge" becomes smoke quickly...
 
scrimmage

scrimmage

What you contemplate you imitate
Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

dinkenson said:
percentages are irrelevant since every play is at a money line.....i hate to brag but i am pretty good...ask around.....i expect a nickel player to do well...if you are a smaller player you should not pay this price....
Click to expand...
What is the exact line a player might get after a release ?
 
scrimmage

scrimmage

What you contemplate you imitate
Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?


Lefthook said:
Not to be an asshole, but do you think that you're going to find 20 guys here who bet a nickel on NHL, let alone 20 that will give you $3k for the picks? I'm sure you're a good NHL capper, and someone posted a record that was supposedly yours, and it looked good.

But I dont know if there's enough of a public history with you to justify $3k. I'm not sure you're in the RAS category after 1 year of posted results. Even RAS has a hard time each year getting guys to buy picks from the forum and his results are documented over the years.

If its the $60k you need why not get someone to stake you and bet the games yourself? Fuck the forum picks or the tout service. Get $2k down a game and make yourself more than your would selling picks to the forum. Thats how I would handle it
Click to expand...
 
scrimmage

scrimmage

What you contemplate you imitate
Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

BAUS said:
And for anyone who said earlier "can't get down enough anyway on NHL" or "can only bet $500" then you really just aren't trying very hard.

I would have absolutely no problem whatsoever getting down 30k on an NHL game in about 90 seconds.

BAUS
Click to expand...
Is this guy serious...
 
G

groovinmahoovin

2
Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

Try getting down 30k when other people who can afford to pay 3k for a service are also trying to get down at the exact same time.
 
scrimmage

scrimmage

What you contemplate you imitate
Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

WVU said:
Dink accepts paypal. PM him for the email
Click to expand...

dinkenson said:
percentages are irrelevant since every play is at a money line.....i hate to brag but i am pretty good...ask around.....i expect a nickel player to do well...if you are a smaller player you should not pay this price....
Click to expand...
Dink'll take whatever any suckers to the service send,and Dink knows past results are no guarantee of future results...
 
railbird

railbird

EOG Master
Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

Ras wasnt charging 3K in year 1. Was 700 until a couple of yrs ago.
 
scrimmage

scrimmage

What you contemplate you imitate
Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

FISHHEAD said:
BAUS routinely wins $40,000 or more in a day.Good friend of mineI have no doubts with anything he says.
Click to expand...
So according to you "BAUS" could possibly be netting over $14,600,000.00 a year doin what he's doin...Dream on true believer...
 
G

groovinmahoovin

2
Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

silvereye said:
even dink succumbed to the dark side. would not be surprised to see you becoming one too. i mean, why even waste time documenting and posting your plays if you have nothing to sell?
Click to expand...

The guys who run RTP are friends of mine, so I post a handful of plays there, typically about one a day, as a means of contributing to the site. Posting plays is certainly a pain in the ass, but it isnt too tough to post approx one a day, and grading them simply requires another tab in my spreadsheet since I have to grade the plays I bet personally anyway. If I had aspirations of being a tout, I probably would have acted differently at some point in my last 16 years of posting to gambling forums, like, perhaps, posting more picks, or actually made some sort of effort at promoting myself.
 
John Kelly

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

ChuckyG said:
Moreso than picks, I'd like to hear a few guidelines from Dink:

1) Prefer totals? Or sides?
2) NHL betting is not so ez. The shootouts make it complicated. You always bet "Regulation only"? Or "OT, including shootout"?
3) What about handicap line? +1.5, or -1.5. You ever touch these lines?
4) Can you beat 20-cent lines? Or does someone have to bet 10-cent lines to beat NHL?
5) Package includes Playoffs, I assume. Are u better in Reg Sea? Or playoffs?
Click to expand...

Excellent questions, ChuckyG.

:cheers
 
scrimmage

scrimmage

What you contemplate you imitate
Re: So who's gonna pay 3K for Dink's NHL service?

mathy said:
Paying for % of action is different than paying for plays.

To make $3000 worth it, the buyer has to be a significant bettor. If you have several of these buyers, the market is going to move, not to mention that dink is hitting them first.

Every market in which I've ever bet, the good numbers do not last very long. Openers on major markets move quickly. 2nd half numbers move quickly. Prop numbers move quickly at any shop that won't ban you the same day, and the move can sometimes be 40c given the juice. Hockey numbers will move. Will Pinn even take 10k on an NHL game next week? We'll see.

So if I subscribed to the service and wasn't in front of my computer 24/7, I'd eventually log on, see Dink's side, then see that Pinnacle/Matchy/Cris/Greek have all moved 5-10 cents against me. Then I'd shop around looking for places that haven't moved and bet there.

But wait... I can do that without paying $3000... it's called steam chasing (if you're on the computer 24/7) or line shopping (if you get distracted by porn or like fresh air once in a while).

Apparently dink's hockey record is excellent... and I am very happy for him. But hard to see the value for subscribers.
Click to expand...
Anyone considering laying out 3 K for Dink's NHL service needs to read "mathy's" post over and over...
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top