We need a travel ban from China

Viejo Dinosaur

EOG Master
Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

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I always treated the Chinese Virus very seriously, and have done a very good job from the beginning, including my very early decision to close the “borders” from China - against the wishes of almost all. Many lives were saved. The Fake News new narrative is disgraceful & false!

One of his biggest lies.....if he didn’t get rid of the pandemic unit, the USA would be n better shape...if he listened to medical staff and doctors in the beginning, he would have looked sharper....closing borders to China was a no brainer.....
 

common guy

EOG Senior Member
Our prez and his comments on the perfect tests that are even better than his perfect ukranian phone call:

And he added, "Anybody right now and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They're there. They have the tests and the tests are beautiful. Anybody that needs a test gets a test. If there's a doctor that wants to test, if there's somebody coming off a ship like the big monster ship that's out there right now, which you know again, that's a big decision. Do I wanna bring all of those people on? People would like me to do that. I don't like the idea of doing it."

This asshole President and Jared and Donnie Jr all need to succumb to this thing. Talk about perfect.
 
Our prez and his comments on the perfect tests that are even better than his perfect ukranian phone call:

And he added, "Anybody right now and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They're there. They have the tests and the tests are beautiful. Anybody that needs a test gets a test. If there's a doctor that wants to test, if there's somebody coming off a ship like the big monster ship that's out there right now, which you know again, that's a big decision. Do I wanna bring all of those people on? People would like me to do that. I don't like the idea of doing it."

This asshole President and Jared and Donnie Jr all need to succumb to this thing. Talk about perfect.

Take his Twitter/phone away from him-put him in quarantine at Mar A Lago and let the grownups handle this
 

Valuist

EOG Master
Here's the timeline of events, compiled by the Wall St Journal. China has a lot of explaining to do:

This timeline, compiled from information reported by the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post, the South China Morning Post and other sources, shows that China's cover-up and the delay in serious measures to contain the virus lasted about three weeks.
Dec. 10: Wei Guixian, one of the earliest known coronavirus patients, starts feeling ill.
Dec. 16: Patient admitted to Wuhan Central Hospital with infection in both lungs but resistant to anti-flu drugs. Staff later learned he worked at a wildlife market connected to the outbreak.
Dec. 27: Wuhan health officials are told that a new coronavirus is causing the illness.
Dec. 30:
  • Ai Fen, a top director at Wuhan Central Hospital, posts information on WeChat about the new virus. She was reprimanded for doing so and told not to spread information about it.
  • Wuhan doctor Li Wenliang also shares information on WeChat about the new SARS-like virus. He is called in for questioning shortly afterward.
  • Wuhan health commission notifies hospitals of a “pneumonia of unclear cause” and orders them to report any related information.
Dec. 31:
  • Wuhan health officials confirm 27 cases of illness and close a market they think is related to the virus' spread.
  • China tells the World Health Organization’s China office about the cases of an unknown illness.
Jan. 1: Wuhan Public Security Bureau brings in for questioning eight doctors who had posted information about the illness on WeChat.
  • An official at the Hubei Provincial Health Commission orders labs, which had already determined that the novel virus was similar to SARS, to stop testing samples and to destroy existing samples.
Jan. 2: Chinese researchers map the new coronavirus' complete genetic information. This information is not made public until Jan. 9.
Jan. 7: Xi Jinping becomes involved in the response.
Jan. 9: China announces it has mapped the coronavirus genome.
Jan. 11–17: Important prescheduled CCP meeting held in Wuhan. During that time, the Wuhan Health Commission insists there are no new cases.
Jan. 13: First coronavirus case reported in Thailand, the first known case outside China.
Jan. 14: WHO announces Chinese authorities have seen "no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel coronavirus."
Jan. 15: The patient who becomes the first confirmed U.S. case leaves Wuhan and arrives in the U.S., carrying the coronavirus.
Jan. 18:
  • The Wuhan Health Commission announces four new cases.
  • Annual Wuhan Lunar New Year banquet. Tens of thousands of people gathered for a potluck.
Jan. 19: Beijing sends epidemiologists to Wuhan.
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Jan. 20:
  • The first case announced in South Korea.
  • Zhong Nanshan, a top Chinese doctor who is helping to coordinate the coronavirus response, announces the virus can be passed between people.
Jan. 21:
  • The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention confirms the first coronavirus case in the United States.
  • CCP flagship newspaper People’s Daily mentions the coronavirus epidemic and Xi's actions to fight it for the first time.
  • China's top political commission in charge of law and order warns that “anyone who deliberately delays and hides the reporting of [virus] cases out of his or her own self-interest will be nailed on the pillar of shame for eternity."
Jan. 23: Wuhan and three other cities are put on lockdown. Right around this time, approximately 5 million people leave the city without being screened for the illness.
Jan. 24–30: China celebrates the Lunar New Year holiday. Hundreds of millions of people are in transit around the country as they visit relatives.
Jan. 24: China extends the lockdown to cover 36 million people and starts to rapidly build a new hospital in Wuhan. From this point, very strict measures continue to be implemented around the country for the rest of the epidemic.
The bottom line: China is now trying to create a narrative that it's an example of how to handle this crisis when in fact its early actions led to the virus spreading around the globe.
 
no planes in. period. corona virus is a global pestilence. those people eat bat soup which started the virus

RB-you think this is a bio weapon (I believe it could be)— how does trumps travel ban work against this if it’s indeed a bio weapon?
 
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railbird

EOG Master
RB-you think this is a bio weapon (I believe it could be)— how does trumps travel ban work against this if it’s indeed a bio weapon?
likely, and there will many more coming down the pike. This is gloabalists, they want to control are every move and our every dollar. The gloablists are the technocrats, the jesuits, islam, satan has many tricks as he knows time is short.
 

railbird

EOG Master
I flew from Chicago to San Jose, Costa Rica two days ago.

Caught an infection in my right eye during the flight but I blamed it on contact lenses.

When I heard about the Chicagoan with the corona virus, my heart skipped a beat.

I cannot expire before I make a six-figure score at the racetrack.
They say pink eye is the 1st symptomss
 

dogball

EOG Master
I think i was wrong about bat soup part, i now think it is man made in lab.
I think it jumped from animal like a bat to another animal to human. You had right idea
idk about man made but anything’s possible , will never really know but they will tell us a story
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Trump was saying the same thing well after
The issue is not what we could have done, or should have done, but what should we do now?

They've been talking about testing for well over a month, talking about random sampling, etc for weeks, it doesn't look like any of that is happening.

We really dont know even the basics about where this pandemic stands, how widespread it is or isn't?

Spending trillions of dollars, and laying of tens of millions of people without doing the basic random sampling needed to have good data is crazy.
 
The issue is not what we could have done, or should have done, but what should we do now?

They've been talking about testing for well over a month, talking about random sampling, etc for weeks, it doesn't look like any of that is happening.

We really dont know even the basics about where this pandemic stands, how widespread it is or isn't?

Spending trillions of dollars, and laying of tens of millions of people without doing the basic random sampling needed to have good data is crazy.

Not at all being snarky with this question. What do you recommend the plan be at the moment?
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Not at all being snarky with this question. What do you recommend the plan be at the moment?
Do random testing of people in different areas of the country(people who are not sick), find out how many have immunity(the antibody tests), it's quite possible the virus is far more widespread than thought - which is good. For example, if it shows that 25% of NYers have already had it, then you know the pandemic there is almost over.
 

railbird

EOG Master
Do random testing of people in different areas of the country(people who are not sick), find out how many have immunity(the antibody tests), it's quite possible the virus is far more widespread than thought - which is good. For example, if it shows that 25% of NYers have already had it, then you know the pandemic there is almost over.

newyork italy iran spain all have same promblem, too many immigrants, especillay chinese ones, i also notice homosexual towns have huge case per capita rates. Long Beach, Laguna Beach, Brentwood, Hollywood, SFO, NYC.
 
newyork italy iran spain all have same promblem, too many immigrants, especillay chinese ones, i also notice homosexual towns have huge case per capita rates. Long Beach, Laguna Beach, Brentwood, Hollywood, SFO, NYC.

You must’ve just been watching Fox News where Franklin Graham just told Pirro the pandemic is a result of people sinning. LOL
 

TheGuesser

EOG Dedicated
Idiotic Cultists are asking what the head Idiot could have done better to have The US better prepared for this tragedy. Here's at least one of many things, possibly the biggest.

Trump disbanded NSC pandemic unit that experts had praised
By DEB RIECHMANNMarch 14, 2020



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President Donald Trump takes questions during a news conference about the coronavirus in the Rose Garden of the White House, Friday, March 13, 2020, in Washington. Vice President Mike Pence, left, and Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar, right listen. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)

WASHINGTON (AP) — Public health and national security experts shake their heads when President Donald Trump says the coronavirus “came out of nowhere” and “blindsided the world.”
They’ve been warning about the next pandemic for years and criticized the Trump administration’s decision in 2018 to dismantle a National Security Council directorate at the White House charged with preparing for when, not if, another pandemic would hit the nation.
“It would be nice if the office was still there,” Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the National Institute of Health, told Congress this week. “I wouldn’t necessarily characterize it as a mistake (to eliminate the unit). I would say we worked very well with that office.”


The NSC directorate for global health and security and bio-defense survived the transition from President Barack Obama to Trump in 2017.
Trump’s elimination of the office suggested, along with his proposed budget cuts for the CDC, that he did not see the threat of pandemics in the same way that many experts in the field did.
“One year later I was mystified when the White House dissolved the office, leaving the country less prepared for pandemics like COVID-19,” Beth Cameron, the first director of the unit, wrote in an op-ed Friday in The Washington Post.
She said the directorate was set up to be the “smoke alarm” and get ahead of emergencies and sound a warning at the earliest sign of fire — “all with the goal of avoiding a six-alarm fire.”
It’s impossible to assess the impact of the 2018 decision to disband the unit, she said. Cameron noted that biological experts remain at the White House, but she says it’s clear that eliminating the office contributed to what she called a “sluggish domestic response.” She said that shortly before Trump took office, the unit was watching a rising number of cases in China of a deadly strain of the flu and a yellow fever outbreak in Angola.
“It’s unclear whether the decision to disband the directorate, which was made in May 2018, after John Bolton became national security adviser, was a tactical move to downgrade the issue or whether it was part of the White House’s interest in simplifying and shrinking the National Security Council staff,” Cameron says.
The NSC during the Obama administration grew to about 250 professionals, according to Trump’s current national security adviser, Robert O’Brien. The staff has been cut to about 110 or 115 staffers, he said.


When Trump was asked on Friday whether closing the NSC global health unit slowed the U.S. response, the president called it a “nasty” question because his administration had acted quickly and saved lives.
“I don’t know anything about it,” Trump said.
Earlier, when asked about it, he said: “This is something that you can never really think is going to happen.”
On Saturday, John Bolton, a former Trump national security adviser, dismissed claims that “streamlining NSC structures impaired our nation’s bio defense are false.″ In a tweet, he said global health “remained a top NSC priority, and its expert team was critical to effectively handling the 2018-19 Africa Ebola crisis. The angry Left just can’t stop attacking, even in a crisis.″
For many years, the national intelligence director’s worldwide threat assessment has warned that a flu pandemic or other large-scale outbreak of a contagious disease could lead to massive rates of death and disability that would severely affect the world economy. Public health experts have been blowing whistles too.
Back in mid-2018, Fauci told Congress: “When you have a respiratory virus that can be spread by droplets and aerosol and ... there’s a degree of morbidity associated with that, you can have a catastrophe. ... The one that we always talk about is the 1918 pandemic, which killed between 50 and 100 million people. ... Influenza first, or something like influenza, is the one that keeps me up at night.”
The White House says the NSC remains involved in responding to the coronavirus pandemic.
A senior administration official said Friday that the NSC’s global health security directorate was absorbed into another division where similar responsibilities still exist, but under different titles. The work of coordinating policy and making sure that decisions made by Trump’s coronavirus task force are implemented is still the job of the NSC.
Some lawmakers aren’t convinced.
Rep. Gerald Connolly, D-Va., and Rep. Steve Chabot, R-Ohio, have introduced a bill that would require future administrations to have experts always in place to prepare for new pandemics.
“Two years ago, the administration dismantled the apparatus that had been put in place five years before in the face of the Ebola crisis,” Connolly said. “I think, in retrospect, that was an unwise move. This bill would restore that and institutionalize it.”
Connolly said the bill is not meant to be critical of the Trump administration. He said it’s a recognition that Trump had to name a coronavirus responder just like Obama had to name one for Ebola in 2014. “We can’t go from pandemic to pandemic,” Connolly said.
The House Foreign Affairs Committee on March 4 passed the measure, which is co-sponsored by 37 Democrats and five Republicans. The full House has not yet voted on the bill.
Chabot said one of the bill’s main goals is to would require personnel to be permanently in place preparing for pandemics.
“Specifically, we need someone, preferable at the NSC, to quarterback the U.S. government’s response since that response inevitably involves several agencies across the government,” Chabot said. “Our bill would make this position permanent.”
Former Obama administration officials insist that the Trump White House would have been able to act more quickly had the office still been intact.
“I think if we’d had a unit and dedicated professionals looking at this issue, gaming out scenarios well before ... we might have identified some of these testing issues,” says Lisa Monaco, President Obama’s homeland security adviser, said at a recent forum on coronavirus. “There would have been folks sounding the alarm in December when we saw this coming out of China, saying ’Hey, what do we need to be doing here in this country to address it?”
Ron Klain, who managed the government response to contain and mitigate the spread of Ebola in 2014, agreed.
“If I were back in my old job at the White House ... I’d be pushing to have us do 30 million tests — to test people in nursing homes, to test people with unexplained respiratory ailments, to test the people who regularly visit nursing homes, to test healthcare workers,” Klain said recently at the event hosted by the Center for American Progress in Washington.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Do random testing of people in different areas of the country(people who are not sick), find out how many have immunity(the antibody tests), it's quite possible the virus is far more widespread than thought - which is good. For example, if it shows that 25% of NYers have already had it, then you know the pandemic there is almost over.
Supposedly they're now going to start doing this - antibody testing, lets see how long this takes.
 
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