When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

bigbet1234

EOG Dedicated
#1
When I go in to piss around and hope to hit it, I either piss away what I took, or at least double it before I am ready to leave.

I have more than tripled my money at times, only to keep chasing and piss it away:shoot:
 

tripp

EOG Master
#2
Re: When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

I'm the same way. If i go to a casino i bring what I'm ok losing and if not I will try to win big (or at least double the money)
 
#3
Re: When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

When I go in to piss around and hope to hit it, I either piss away what I took, or at least double it before I am ready to leave.

I have more than tripled my money at times, only to keep chasing and piss it away:shoot:
Gosh, you might think that's how a casino works.
 

gmenknicks

EOG Dedicated
#4
Re: When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

I go broke every single time besides poker...trying martingale roullete this year...whats the worst that can happen?? i go broke again...
 

pvcpipe

EOG Master
#5
Re: When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

gmen let me know how that martingale on roulette works out for you
 

jimmythegreek

The opening odds start here
#7
Re: When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

My luck on poker cash games has been on the positive side the last 4 visits to A/C. Harrah's no limit sports a lot of rookies and yocals that are subject to big time slipups. However that's also the benefit of being dealt some good cards along with favorable flops.
 
#8
Re: When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

When Wink Martingale developed his system years ago, it sounded so easy. Just keep doubling that losing bet, and you will eventually win.

And sure enough, after a first losing bet, you are doubling up, not to win anything, but just to get your money back. So you are playing to stay even now! Even I could run a profitable casino with those odds. My biggest risk as casino owner now is, well, I don't have a risk. LOL. The best you, as the mark can do, is get your original money back. And that will indeed happen MOST of the time if you stay with Martingale and don't exceed the table limits.

But when that time comes and it doesn't work, it's a headache tomorrow and a heartache tonight. You will die.

Martingale is fun to play around with, but after a few losing bets just give it up. You lost. Start over. The "next roll/spin/deal" is never the answer.

Walk away. The casinos will be open tomorrow.
 
#9
Re: When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

Both! It's mathematically improbable to win a lot or go broke consistently if you make low-advantaged wagers. As a craps player who plays the pass/don't pass only, I win a lot about 20% of the time, go broke about 20%, and win/lose marginally the other 60%.

I think that's why I keep going back. If I went broke all the time, I would stop going.
 
#10
Re: When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

When I stick to the 3 P's i do pretty good: Poker, Ponies & Pro Sports.

When I sit at the tables or play the slots I usually get murdered.
 
#11
Re: When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

Casinos are my prey.........

Not to many, if any, in Vegas have escaped my claws.
 
#12
Re: When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

First of all, it takes discipline not to do what bigbet says he does, which is exactly what most other gamblers do because so few of them (us) have sufficient discipline.

I'm an old guy, and have done the "piss it away" thing many times, just not within the last 25 or so years. A lot of gamblers don't even last that long before their wives put a foot down - "it's me & the kids or the casino, take your choice." I've known guys that have gone either way.

A more disciplined guy will lose what he can afford to lose, or leave with what his goal was to leave with. But once again, few reading this will be capable of doing that without first experiencing a serious change-of-life moment. That, or having sufficient income that losing a few thou on most casino trips simply isn't a big deal to them.
 
#13
Re: When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

First of all, it takes discipline not to do what bigbet says he does, which is exactly what most other gamblers do because so few of them (us) have sufficient discipline.

I'm an old guy, and have done the "piss it away" thing many times, just not within the last 25 or so years. A lot of gamblers don't even last that long before their wives put a foot down - "it's me & the kids or the casino, take your choice." I've known guys that have gone either way.

A more disciplined guy will lose what he can afford to lose, or leave with what his goal was to leave with. But once again, few reading this will be capable of doing that without first experiencing a serious change-of-life moment. That, or having sufficient income that losing a few thou on most casino trips simply isn't a big deal to them.
Cant wait until i get the the other side and am capable of leaving ahead.
 
#14
Re: When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

BIGBET is a +EV specialist..............don't believe his crying.


HOLY MACKAREAL, are some of you this new to gaming forums????
 

gmenknicks

EOG Dedicated
#16
Re: When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

i have never left ahead except for playing at the poker rooms here in FL....unfortunately Vegas owns me....what the fuk am i gonna do?? go up to the room?? shoot uzi's?? watch celine dion?? i am there to drink and gamble...
 
#17
Re: When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

i have never left ahead except for playing at the poker rooms here in FL....unfortunately Vegas owns me....what the fuk am i gonna do?? go up to the room?? shoot uzi's?? watch celine dion?? i am there to drink and gamble...

Then play blackjack, slots, and video poker.....................all BEATABLE longterm for a +EV specialist like BIGBET.
 
#18
Re: When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

Then play blackjack, slots, and video poker.....................all BEATABLE longterm for a +EV specialist like BIGBET.
slots really? or are u kidding. I can't tell with u sometimes.

BJ, bacarat, OK. You live in the casinos, help me with this.
 
J

joeybagadonuts

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#21
Re: When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

Fisher, I thought the most +EV would be for most to just not enter the casino and instead attack the dumpster 'bonus' program????

Set us suckers straight!
 

gmenknicks

EOG Dedicated
#22
Re: When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

Not kidding, far from it.

Been attacking bonus and progressive slots for years, as far back as 1996 or so..............up quite a bit.
please enlighten me how to do this...and I am not being sarcastic...my slot play goes something like this...

100 in and gone in about 1 minute...
 
#23
Re: When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

Not kidding, far from it.

Been attacking bonus and progressive slots for years, as far back as 1996 or so..............up quite a bit.
Do you ever cash out when you hit decent scores or sit on the same machine until you hit a jackpot?
 
#25
Re: When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

I was under the impression you played video slots FH. I assumed slots were totally random. I don't doubt that you are sucessfull. Maybe you can explain in more detail how to beat the machines.

:+clueless
 
#27
Re: When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

i never gone and came out broke bigbet,but i have only won big about 3 times,the rest usually was winning or losing a little but nothing drastic
 

gmenknicks

EOG Dedicated
#29
Re: When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

i love hooker hunting in the casino...its fun to play along with the ones at the bar. I act like I really think they are into me...

then the ones who just say hey whats up do you want to fuck?? i like those also...
 

bigbet1234

EOG Dedicated
#30
Re: When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

LOL, sounds nuts, right?

Well there are a few gems out there that exist. You don't just sit and play and collect the coins though. Most are progressive bonus games where you have to let the others build it for you, when they get up, you plop down and hit, next....:pop:
slots really? or are u kidding. I can't tell with u sometimes.

BJ, bacarat, OK. You live in the casinos, help me with this.
 
#31
Re: When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

Why spend time on -EV situations? BJ was a gold mine, and then the casinos banned you. Some poker machines had decent odds, then they changed them.

If you knowingly bet into a -EV situations, you have issues. Get help.
 
#32
Re: When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

I was under the impression you played video slots FH. I assumed slots were totally random. I don't doubt that you are sucessfull. Maybe you can explain in more detail how to beat the machines.

:+clueless

Will give you two SMALL examples, one with video poker, one with slots..................not going to ramble on about this because

.........1. Not going to ruin golden gooses that abound.......2. Don't have the time .........3. Don't appreciate listening to numerous naysayers, bashers, and doubters who have no clue about the actual world of video poker/slots.

Again, here are two SMALL examples.........


VIDEO POKER---These days(not as much in past), most +EV video poker evolves around casino promos of some sort.......usually in a given month, there are only a handf.ul or two of these to attack(if one does not want to go outside the state of Nevada)........one plays an a 100+% machine(easily figured out by the paytables) or one close to it when attacking these promos..........last week ThePalms had a holiday promo where they were giving extra cash for so many pts plus holiday gift cards..........couple this with a 3X pts coupon I had(this alone added .5% to the game) and one could play an array of different machines that provided close to a 101% payback, meaning one would make $1 for every $100 invested...........was able to find a machine where I was able to put over $5,000 an hour through, so on paper was making over $50 an hour for the days play(ended up running well and profited $3,900).........this play will also garninsh excellent MAILERS in the future.

On the SLOT front, another SMALL play...........many of you that frequent casinos have seen the numerous machines that have two progressives that must be hit by a certain amount, one by 50.00, the other by 500.00.........well, simply play the small progressive when it reaches 45.50 and the large one when it reaches 465.00(hopefully combined with a good slot card)........in the long, longrun, one will come out ahead(expect MASSIVE swings).


Been playng THOUSANDS of variations of slots and video poker plays like these for nearly 20 years......and as mentioned, not going to mention the better varieties that only a handful of others are aware of.........the face of this GRIND is always changing.

Overall, for me personally(not the case with some other professioal gamblers), sportsbetting has been much, much more lucrative than VP/SLOTS over the last few years.
 
#33
Re: When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

Will give you two SMALL examples, one with video poker, one with slots..................not going to ramble on about this because

.........1. Not going to ruin golden gooses that abound.......2. Don't have the time .........3. Don't appreciate listening to numerous naysayers, bashers, and doubters who have no clue about the actual world of video poker/slots.

Again, here are two SMALL examples.........


VIDEO POKER---These days(not as much in past), most +EV video poker evolves around casino promos of some sort.......usually in a given month, there are only a handf.ul or two of these to attack(if one does not want to go outside the state of Nevada)........one plays an a 100+% machine(easily figured out by the paytables) or one close to it when attacking these promos..........last week ThePalms had a holiday promo where they were giving extra cash for so many pts plus holiday gift cards..........couple this with a 3X pts coupon I had(this alone added .5% to the game) and one could play an array of different machines that provided close to a 101% payback, meaning one would make $1 for every $100 invested...........was able to find a machine where I was able to put over $5,000 an hour through, so on paper was making over $50 an hour for the days play(ended up running well and profited $3,900).........this play will also garninsh excellent MAILERS in the future.

On the SLOT front, another SMALL play...........many of you that frequent casinos have seen the numerous machines that have two progressives that must be hit by a certain amount, one by 50.00, the other by 500.00.........well, simply play the small progressive when it reaches 45.50 and the large one when it reaches 465.00(hopefully combined with a good slot card)........in the long, longrun, one will come out ahead(expect MASSIVE swings).


Been playng THOUSANDS of variations of slots and video poker plays like these for nearly 20 years......and as mentioned, not going to mention the better varieties that only a handful of others are aware of.........the face of this GRIND is always changing.

Overall, for me personally(not the case with some other professioal gamblers), sportsbetting has been much, much more lucrative than VP/SLOTS over the last few years.
Thanks a lot for taking the time to answer it was interesting and informative. Here in PA the slots payout structure is much much less than other states. The casino's pay more in state taxes. This is the only reason they were allowed here. Thanks again FH.
 
#34
Re: When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

Thanks a lot for taking the time to answer it was interesting and informative. Here in PA the slots payout structure is much much less than other states. The casino's pay more in state taxes. This is the only reason they were allowed here. Thanks again FH.

My pleasure....


By the way, you should keep your eyes peeled for promos in your area, hit a couple up in your area a couple years ago(horsetrack in eastern PA, near Erie).
 
#36
Re: When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

My pleasure....


By the way, you should keep your eyes peeled for promos in your area, hit a couple up in your area a couple years ago(horsetrack in eastern PA, near Erie).
I think you might mean Western PA, FH. I am in Scranton I am about 2 hours north of Philly and 2 hours west of NYC. Mohegan Sun at Pocono downs is about 20 minutes away in Wilkes Barre PA. We also have Mt Airy which is near Stroudsburg close to New Jersey about 40 minutes away from me. I have done much better in AC which is about 3 1/2 hours away from me. Thanks again.
 

E-Money712

EOG Senior Member
#37
Re: When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

I like to play baccarat which for the most part is a pure 50/50 game. Either Player or Banker. You can bet tie but I never bet that. I guess I'm a natural born loser when it comes to gambling because its rare for me to win 3 in a row but it never fails that I can lose 10 in a row when I play. It happens all the time and I don't understand. But I am also the subject to losing three team money line favorites at -400 each having them all lose (this has happened many times to me). I am very bad luck when it comes to chance! When it comes to poker I always never get my flush when all in in a tournament. When all in against me when a guy goes all in with a flush draw he gets it. AK vs Pair, when I have AK I get all blanks. When I have the pair AK always gets me. In a tourney yesterday I had AK went all in with 10 Big blinds left and ran into pocket AA. I have been running really bad in any sports betting or gambling for the last 5 years. I wonder when my variance will change?
 

gmenknicks

EOG Dedicated
#38
Re: When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

Will give you two SMALL examples, one with video poker, one with slots..................not going to ramble on about this because

.........1. Not going to ruin golden gooses that abound.......2. Don't have the time .........3. Don't appreciate listening to numerous naysayers, bashers, and doubters who have no clue about the actual world of video poker/slots.

Again, here are two SMALL examples.........


VIDEO POKER---These days(not as much in past), most +EV video poker evolves around casino promos of some sort.......usually in a given month, there are only a handf.ul or two of these to attack(if one does not want to go outside the state of Nevada)........one plays an a 100+% machine(easily figured out by the paytables) or one close to it when attacking these promos..........last week ThePalms had a holiday promo where they were giving extra cash for so many pts plus holiday gift cards..........couple this with a 3X pts coupon I had(this alone added .5% to the game) and one could play an array of different machines that provided close to a 101% payback, meaning one would make $1 for every $100 invested...........was able to find a machine where I was able to put over $5,000 an hour through, so on paper was making over $50 an hour for the days play(ended up running well and profited $3,900).........this play will also garninsh excellent MAILERS in the future.

On the SLOT front, another SMALL play...........many of you that frequent casinos have seen the numerous machines that have two progressives that must be hit by a certain amount, one by 50.00, the other by 500.00.........well, simply play the small progressive when it reaches 45.50 and the large one when it reaches 465.00(hopefully combined with a good slot card)........in the long, longrun, one will come out ahead(expect MASSIVE swings).


Been playng THOUSANDS of variations of slots and video poker plays like these for nearly 20 years......and as mentioned, not going to mention the better varieties that only a handful of others are aware of.........the face of this GRIND is always changing.

Overall, for me personally(not the case with some other professioal gamblers), sportsbetting has been much, much more lucrative than VP/SLOTS over the last few years.

great info..thanks..more of this on the board please
 
#39
Re: When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

Cant wait until i get the the other side and am capable of leaving ahead.
I tried and almost pulled it off.....

Thought I could win $100 a day at Hawaain Gardens because I always came up that much before crashing and burning but I tried it..

Day 1 +100
Day 2 +100
Day 3-5 +100 each day

Day 6 I win $100 again in about 4 hands so I gather chips and go home (15 minutes) and drink a couple beers and say fvck it going back...

Go back and win another $100 almost as fast and leave for home again....couple of beers and shots I head back for the 3rd trip that day up $700

Lost $900

I CAN beat this game.....Times running out but I'll get there
 
#40
Re: When you go into a casino, do you win a lot or go broke?

I think you might mean Western PA, FH. I am in Scranton I am about 2 hours north of Philly and 2 hours west of NYC. Mohegan Sun at Pocono downs is about 20 minutes away in Wilkes Barre PA. We also have Mt Airy which is near Stroudsburg close to New Jersey about 40 minutes away from me. I have done much better in AC which is about 3 1/2 hours away from me. Thanks again.
:cheers:cheers
 
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