Which Bookie Has The Biggest Set Of You Know What When It Comes To Booking?

rainbow

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shoebox said:
Rainbow, you are too funny, talk about picking and choosing who to give what, Pinny has limits for EVERYBODY and last night I checked they were giving 100 dimes on the FInal 4 Halftimes, online. Spiro will give BW, BB, QT huge limits becasue HE THEN IN TURN BETS THEIR SHIT OUT HAND OVER FIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dont even try to argue that point, I have seen it 1st hand. So what if he won bases in 2004, the reason they went to a 20 cent line in 2000 is because he was getting smashed, another point u cant argue.

Roberto, I seriously wonder where u get your information from, post ups are not sharper then credit players, ALL the huge Commision Sheets are credit and thats where the majority of the sharps come from, anybody who is anyone in the bizness can get credit anywhere they want, its the squares that need to post up, now if you are talking bonus whores and weasel steam chasers(guys that real books arent afraid of, its the start up books with no volume that they affect), they are post up. Bodog, Sportsbook.com, betus, etc... wouldnt be as big as they are if Post ups were the sharper player.
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15YRS OF KNOWING SPIRO, HE WILL NEVER EVER, EVER, EVER GO OUT THE DOOR WITH ANYBODYS BET YOU KNOW ZEROOOOOOO ABOUT SPIRO........
 
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You left out the obvious reason why he gives them such a big bet and you didnt address my point, He gives those limits so he can in turn bet thier stuff out, thats obvious.

You can argue till the cows come home, but we can let the bettors decide where they would rather play.

You want to lay -110 on Hoops and Foots Play at The Greek, you want to lay -105 Play at Pinny, Tough choice HUH, LMAO

You want to bet into a 20 cent Baseball line go Play at The Greek, you want an 8 cent line go play at Pinny, another really tough choice, LOL.

You want to place a bet on line, see what Pinny is using and Fire away, you want to bet at the Greek, call up and get a differnet line than what he is showing everyone on Don Best.

Its fairly obvious to anybody but you, but thats fine if u like to lay 5-12 cents higher for the same damn thing:smoke

Please tell me again how u are the all knowing god to offshore, please enlighten me more on how to lay Mets -167 when I can lay -58 or teach me how to take +120 on Phi when I can take +134, LOL
 
rainbow

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shoebox said:
You left out the obvious reason why he gives them such a big bet and you didnt address my point, He gives those limits so he can in turn bet thier stuff out, thats obvious.

You can argue till the cows come home, but we can let the bettors decide where they would rather play.

You want to lay -110 on Hoops and Foots Play at The Greek, you want to lay -105 Play at Pinny, Tough choice HUH, LMAO

You want to bet into a 20 cent Baseball line go Play at The Greek, you want an 8 cent line go play at Pinny, another really tough choice, LOL.

You want to place a bet on line, see what Pinny is using and Fire away, you want to bet at the Greek, call up and get a differnet line than what he is showing everyone on Don Best.

Its fairly obvious to anybody but you, but thats fine if u like to lay 5-12 cents higher for the same damn thing:smoke

Please tell me again how u are the all knowing god to offshore, please enlighten me more on how to lay Mets -167 when I can lay -58 or teach me how to take +120 on Phi when I can take +134, LOL
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I didn't leave out the OBVIOUS reason, because SPIRO DONT GO OUT THE DOOR WITH NOBODY'S BET, I DONT THINK THAT'S TRUE WITH PINNY, I KNOW HE HAS GONE OUT THE DOOR WITH QT PLAYS, THAT'S A NOBRAINER COMPARING YOUR BASEBALL 20 CENT LINE TO A 10 CENT LINE, HOW MANY PEOPLE DID YOU HAVE TO GET TO HELP YOU FIGURE THAT OUT. YOU DONT KNOW SPIRO PERIOD, THAT'S ALL YOU ARE DOING IS SPECULATING. WOULD YOU RATHER BET PINNY -4.5 -05 OR SPIRO -4 -110 YOU PROBABLY WOULD LAY THE 4.5 -05, ANYWAY YOU HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO.
 
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shoebox said:
You left out the obvious reason why he gives them such a big bet and you didnt address my point, He gives those limits so he can in turn bet thier stuff out, thats obvious.

You can argue till the cows come home, but we can let the bettors decide where they would rather play.

You want to lay -110 on Hoops and Foots Play at The Greek, you want to lay -105 Play at Pinny, Tough choice HUH, LMAO
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I've seen the difference with these two books. Pinnacle changes their lines automatically, Greek has to do it manually.

The reason Pinny is a better Internet out is because they have better technology to move the lines. Simply put, their internet lines are sharper.

When you call Spiros, he takes a look at the line and lets the caller know if they can bet.

So Shoebox, Pinnacle doesn't even have a phone for chirsssakes, so the comparison is silly. If Spiro and his crew didn't have to sit there and manually change the lines every second of the betting day, it would be a different story online.

His homepage didn't change for 3 or 4 years so I don't think his priority is improving the internet betting experience for his players.

But if you call the greek on the phone, I double-dog-dare you do name a number he says no to. You can say something that looks like a telephone number but you probably aren't gonna get a "no"

I can't say the same for pinnacle because they don't have a phone. People forget that Pinnacle eased into the reduced juice model. They started out primarily as a betting shop. As their business grew they figured out how to profile, automatically move the lines and book to sharps. Their juice got more and more reduced and they offered more product.

Both books have big bankrolls and take big bets, but Pinnacle has a better way to manage players online, so they look better and they are killing the other books that are technically too stupid to figure it out for themselves.

There will be a day (mark my words) when all the sharp books move their lines automatically (at least the juice) on the internet if they want to compete with pinnacle.

How do I know? Because IHaveveBeenAround
 
rainbow

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IHaveBeenAround said:
I've seen the difference with these two books. Pinnacle changes their lines automatically, Greek has to do it manually.

The reason Pinny is a better Internet out is because they have better technology to move the lines. Simply put, their internet lines are sharper.

When you call Spiros, he takes a look at the line and lets the caller know if they can bet.

So Shoebox, Pinnacle doesn't even have a phone for chirsssakes, so the comparison is silly. If Spiro and his crew didn't have to sit there and manually change the lines every second of the betting day, it would be a different story online.

His homepage didn't change for 3 or 4 years so I don't think his priority is improving the internet betting experience for his players.

But if you call the greek on the phone, I double-dog-dare you do name a number he says no to. You can say something that looks like a telephone number but you probably aren't gonna get a "no"

I can't say the same for pinnacle because they don't have a phone. People forget that Pinnacle eased into the reduced juice model. They started out primarily as a betting shop. As their business grew they figured out how to profile, automatically move the lines and book to sharps. Their juice got more and more reduced and they offered more product.

Both books have big bankrolls and take big bets, but Pinnacle has a better way to manage players online, so they look better and they are killing the other books that are technically too stupid to figure it out for themselves.

There will be a day (mark my words) when all the sharp books move their lines automatically (at least the juice) on the internet if they want to compete with pinnacle.

How do I know? Because IHaveveBeenAround
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Well said, I think you know SPIRO well, I read this REPLY three times you DEFINTELY have been around.
 
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rainbow said:
Well said, I think you know SPIRO well, I read this REPLY three times you DEFINTELY have been around.
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Shoebox knows this to but he is acting like an idiot in this thread for some reason. Pinnacle has figured out a way to manage sharp players on the internet and that is it. They still profile and change your limits based on who you are. Both of these shops get the moves as quick as anyone so they aren't worried about getting beat to a number.

Pinnacle didn't start off as what we see today and people forget that. They think pinnacle does this and pinnacle does that, so all the other books are thieves and that simply aint the case.

Love your posts Rainbow so keep the info flowing!
 
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One of the people (2 intials, first letter begins with q) that is being mentioned has asked that you please refrain from naming him in this thread, so I ask that we respect his wishes..

Thanks,

THE SHRINK
 
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If you want to bet a coin flip(heads/tails) at -110 Spiro is your guy, I am sure he will take 1 mil with those odds, u want to lay reduced juice, on the net, on anything else Pinnacle is your Book.
 
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shoebox said:
If you want to bet a coin flip(heads/tails) at -110 Spiro is your guy, I am sure he will take 1 mil with those odds, u want to lay reduced juice, on the net, on anything else Pinnacle is your Book.
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Pinnacle is a better internet book, period. They are the only ones that can confidently book to wiseguys on the net.

There is more to booking than the internet shoebox and you know you it. Just like there is more to booking than post up or sheets
 
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THE SHRINK said:
One of the people (2 intials, first letter begins with q) that is being mentioned has asked that you please refrain from naming him in this thread, so I ask that we respect his wishes..

Thanks,

THE SHRINK
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How gay. We can't use the guys initials? What a wuss. Shrinky, If I had to grade you around here lately you'd get an F. Here is what you've done wrong

No threads on anything to win - the pick 6 scandal. What a story. Why aren't we talking about it?

No threads on Bobird. Cal is putting a casino in space and you fail to mention it? Bobird for chrissakes. Cmon. Bo-fuking-bird!!!

Complaining about initials on your posting forum. you can say spiro until the cows come home but we can't say qt. Hmm

Lets get those grades up Shrink and restore yourself to your former well deserved glory.
 
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This has been a good thread. Both Sprio and Henry are deserving of great respect for what they have accomplished with their companies.
 
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