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Valuist

EOG Master
Not sure how many on here bet it. I know there's a few who do; JK and Sports, and I'm sure others.

I only started betting it last year. One oddity I've found; it seems like very little variance in team tempo. It seems like all the teams are right around the same number of possessions, and almost all totals I project are 162-163. Anyone else notice this?
 

ComptrBob

EOG Master
Not sure how many on here bet it. I know there's a few who do; JK and Sports, and I'm sure others.

I only started betting it last year. One oddity I've found; it seems like very little variance in team tempo. It seems like all the teams are right around the same number of possessions, and almost all totals I project are 162-163. Anyone else notice this?

Lots of variance tonight, nearly identical: Liberty 86-78 over Mystics, Mercury 86-77 over Valkyries. LOL
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
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Not sure how many on here bet it. I know there's a few who do; JK and Sports, and I'm sure others.

I only started betting it last year. One oddity I've found; it seems like very little variance in team tempo. It seems like all the teams are right around the same number of possessions, and almost all totals I project are 162-163. Anyone else notice this?

Great point, VALUIST.

Searching for reasons now.

Of course, the 40-minute game in the WNBA is a factor compared to 48 minutes in the NBA.

Additionally, four 10-minute quarters are more measured than the two 20-minute halves the league once played because the final minute of each quarter is typically played differently than the other nine minutes of the quarter.

Only 13 teams compared to the NBA's 30, so fewer teams to scout and styles to defend.

Only 11 or 12 players per roster compared to the NBA's roster cap of 15.

And here's my leading theory right now: The total lack of team speed in the WNBA from one baseline to the other.

The ladies have a hard time going end-to-end in desperate late-game situations.

Watch a men's game (pro, college or even high school) and if there's five seconds left on the clock, the point guard will race 94 feet to give his team a chance.

Not the case with the ladies.
 
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John Kelly

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Since VALUIST's post, there have been three WNBA games.

The points produced in those three games: 164, 163 and 163.
 

Valuist

EOG Master
SPORTY may have a better answer.

He follows WNBA totals closely.

For either of you, I see Vandersloot of the Sky went down with a bad knee injury. Is she worth anything to the line? I noticed the Fever opened up as 5 1/2 point favorites for yesterday's game, a flood of Chicago money pushed the number down to 3. Then Indiana blew them out.
 

Sportsrmylife

EOG Master
Played minn Dallas under 169.5

Dallas has a serious hole at PG now that Paige and Harris are out

They barely got over this total in the two other matchups this year.

The cheat code is if Arika O goes off. Well considering she is shooting 35% from the field it will have to be an outlier hot shooting performance or extreme volume

I like my chances
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
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Arike has been awful this season.

If I owned a WNBA team, I would insist on body fat measurements.

A lot of these ladies carry too much weight.

And thus, the knee injuries on those wide, made-for-child-bearing hips
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
For either of you, I see Vandersloot of the Sky went down with a bad knee injury. Is she worth anything to the line? I noticed the Fever opened up as 5 1/2 point favorites for yesterday's game, a flood of Chicago money pushed the number down to 3. Then Indiana blew them out.

"Sloot" was shot before the knee injury.

She's an old 36.

Guile only takes you so far.

Remember, she was demoted as the Liberty's starting point guard in Game 5 of last year's WNBA Finals.

Rookie Hailey Van Lith doesn't appear ready to replace Vandersloot.

The Sky franchise has made some terrible decisions over the past couple of seasons.

You cannot bet Chicago with any confidence whatsoever.

The two big girls (Cardoso and Reese) are limited offensively.

But I like Angel Reese.

She plays hard and she plays with an edge.

The female Dennis Rodman.
 
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John Kelly

Born Gambler
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Played minn Dallas under 169.5

Dallas has a serious hole at PG now that Paige and Harris are out

They barely got over this total in the two other matchups this year.

The cheat code is if Arika O goes off. Well considering she is shooting 35% from the field it will have to be an outlier hot shooting performance or extreme volume

I like my chances


Final score: 81-65, Minnesota.

Great call, SPORTY.
 

Valuist

EOG Master
I would have to think Bueckers will be back soon for Dallas. Should provide instant offensive improvement, and obviously same w Indy and Clark.
 

Sportsrmylife

EOG Master
I would have to think Bueckers will be back soon for Dallas. Should provide instant offensive improvement, and obviously same w Indy and Clark.
She is back from her concussion but was out due to illness for Sunday.

Paige will be a big help but coming off a concussion could limit her play.

Yesterday Arika O played all 40 minutes.
She is an offensive black hole. People stand around as she dribbles side to side and then when the clock gets under 5 seconds she takes the worst shot in basketball, a deep two.

She is a one on one player who if she is asked to play PG she is out of her element and the team suffers.
 

Sportsrmylife

EOG Master
MONDAY JUNE 9
GS LAS over 163.5

GS has figured out the last 4 games that playing fast is good as they have had a nice 3-1 run after a 0-4 start to the season.

Their target is 80 possessions and the Sparks are a team that won't slow things down led by Kelsey Plum averaging 21.6 ppg

Plum has 37 in their first meeting and is coming off a disaster of 11 pts on 6-18 fg and 2-10 from deep.

The last outing they combined for 155 pts which included a 9 pt quarter for the Sparks.

While this is the highest total of the previous two meetings it is in line with GS playing faster and the Sparks having a problem keeping their opponent under 79 points over the last four games.

Over the widely available 163.5
 
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MONDAY JUNE 9
GS LAS over 163.5

GS has figured out the last 4 games that playing fast is good as they have had a nice 3-1 run after a 0-4 start to the season.

Their target is 80 possessions and the Sparks are a team that won't slow things down led by Kelsey Plum averaging 21.6 ppg

Plum has 37 in their first meeting and is coming off a disaster of 11 pts on 6-18 fg and 2-10 from deep.

The last outing they combined for 155 pts which included a 9 pt quarter for the Sparks.

While this is the highest total of the previous two meetings it is in line with GS playing faster and the Sparks having a problem keeping their opponent under 79 points over the last four games.

Over the widely available 163.5
I really appreciate your knowledgeable intelligent insight on the WNBA. Any thoughts on tomorrow's Sky/Liberty contest? Seems like NY should wallop the Women from Windy City.
 

Sportsrmylife

EOG Master
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I really appreciate your knowledgeable intelligent insight on the WNBA. Any thoughts on tomorrow's Sky/Liberty contest? Seems like NY should wallop the Women from Windy City.
The sky guards are so weak right now and now they face someone in contention for defensive player of the year in Natasha cloud.

The sky team total is 73.5 which feels high given they are playing a great defensive team but the i don't care factor could happen with the liberty as a 17.5 favorites.

I have more questions about this sky team right now since vandersloot was the old bag that could score, rebound, and run the offense

Aktins isn't that.
 

Sportsrmylife

EOG Master
I had SKY and FEVER futures last year............thought the two skyscrapers for SKY would dominate.

THEY BOTH HORRIBLE
Cardosa has improvement offensively this yr but she isn't someone to carry a team


12-15 pts and 6-8 reb is her floor and ceiling

Sky need a playmaker like Chennedy Carter but she is such a headcase nobody in the wnba will touch her.

She is playing in the Mexican league now.
 

FISHHEAD

EOG Master
Cardosa has improvement offensively this yr but she isn't someone to carry a team


12-15 pts and 6-8 reb is her floor and ceiling

Sky need a playmaker like Chennedy Carter but she is such a headcase nobody in the wnba will touch her.

She is playing in the Mexican league now.


THIS
 

Sportsrmylife

EOG Master
June 13 Friday
Dallas LV over 170.5
Chelsea Gray over 14.5 pts -110
Gray over 20+ pts +310 (1/2 unit)

This is going to be a guard fest as a Aa Wilson and wings big Mcgowan will both be out today. Add in the fact that defensive star Carrington is likely out means that gray and jackie young will have their way with a very weak front court.

Coach Becky Hammond put an emphasis in the post game press conference about how poor her bench was offensively last game as they scored 85 points but 62 came from Young and Gray.

While Wilson is a GTD if she plays Dallas has zero defenders who will slow her down and if she doesn't then the wings will be able to get into the paint at will since nobody will stay in front of Arika Ogunbowale.

While asking both teams to get to 85 points is normally a big feat for 2 wnba teams the matchup is two teams with zero defensive identity. Yes it is possible for a bad shooting night can keep this under the pace and the guard heavy lineups could have both teams get to 85+ even with 42% shooting from the field.

The Gray points is a play based on Wilson being out. If she plays it most likely won't get there
 

Sportsrmylife

EOG Master
Some books are now offering 'Mebound' props specifically for Angel Reese - defined as an Angel Reese offensive rebound from her own missed shot.

Funny
Where?
Have you seen the videos of the dudes that bet Reece to miss her first shot attempt and then celebrating like they won the circa millions

Funny and enjoyable
 

Valuist

EOG Master
June 13 Friday
Dallas LV over 170.5
Chelsea Gray over 14.5 pts -110
Gray over 20+ pts +310 (1/2 unit)

This is going to be a guard fest as a Aa Wilson and wings big Mcgowan will both be out today. Add in the fact that defensive star Carrington is likely out means that gray and jackie young will have their way with a very weak front court.

Coach Becky Hammond put an emphasis in the post game press conference about how poor her bench was offensively last game as they scored 85 points but 62 came from Young and Gray.

While Wilson is a GTD if she plays Dallas has zero defenders who will slow her down and if she doesn't then the wings will be able to get into the paint at will since nobody will stay in front of Arika Ogunbowale.

While asking both teams to get to 85 points is normally a big feat for 2 wnba teams the matchup is two teams with zero defensive identity. Yes it is possible for a bad shooting night can keep this under the pace and the guard heavy lineups could have both teams get to 85+ even with 42% shooting from the field.

The Gray points is a play based on Wilson being out. If she plays it most likely won't get there

You sold me on the Dallas/Vegas total. They cut it close, but it worked out in the end.
 

Sportsrmylife

EOG Master
You sold me on the Dallas/Vegas total. They cut it close, but it worked out in the end.
Should not have been close
Dallas scored 2 pts the last 3:55 because they got a lead and tried to bleed the clock instead of running offense and getting layup after layup from good sets and ball movement

A win is a win
 

Valuist

EOG Master
Minnesota is an auto fade today. Love fading teams the first game after having a long win streak broken.

Taking +11 1/2. With the shootings in MN, wonder if the game will be played.
 
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Valuist

EOG Master
Should not have been close
Dallas scored 2 pts the last 3:55 because they got a lead and tried to bleed the clock instead of running offense and getting layup after layup from good sets and ball movement

A win is a win

True Dallas completely blew it, but both teams were money at the FT line. Combined, 36 for 39. How many NBA teams do that?
 

Sportsrmylife

EOG Master
June 14
Las minn under 163
Seattle -10 best bet

Gs is done 2 starters and a key reserve due to fiba basketball

Their roster isn't deep enough to hang with Seattle right now
 
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