Wow! These restrictions are hard to believe.

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Krackman

EOG Senior Member
Deposit any amount of $200 or less and get a 100% immediate FREE CASH sign-up bonus. If you decide to deposit more than $200, you will also get a 10% CASH BONUS on the additional funds!!!

To get the bonus, you must call 1-888-771-9076 from now until October 15th, 2005 and mention the code NFL-Season 100% Bonus* and make your deposit with NETeller, NETeller InstaCash, Solid Pay, Western Union, or Money Gram.

Click here to make your deposit NOW!

[font=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][font=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]* Restrictions Apply. Participants will NOT be able to combine this offer with any others. Participants may only have ONE ACCOUNT. Participants only qualify for the Season 100% Bonus ONCE PER HOUSEHOLD, this is a one-time offer. Any deposit over $200 will get 10% on the additional funds, up to $3000 For instance, if you deposit $300 you would get $200 on the first $200 deposited and $10 on the additional $100 deposited for a total bonus of $210 All normal bonus policies and procedures will apply, however you will have to roll your deposit amount, bonus amount, and fee amount over six-times in the sportsbook, racebook, casino and poker room, AND actively play for 60-days prior to any withdrawal. If you withdraw any amount at all prior to meeting BOTH requirements, you will lose your bonuses, your fees, and all winnings before any payout is processed AND you will pay all transfer costs involved with your payout. No other deposit method, except the ones detailed above, will be accepted for this promotion.[/font][/font]

Thank you for choosing MVPsportsbook.com!


Client Services Department

MVP SPORTSBOOK
 
peteep

peteep

EOG Addicted
Pretty much have to take that offer. Small rollover....so you have $200 held for 60 days, shouldn't be that big of a hit to the bankroll.
 
K

Krackman

EOG Senior Member
Yea! I guess I was more thinking like if you deposit a few dimes you cant touch any money for 60 days. You should be allowed to get winnings.
 
The General

The General

Another Day, Another Dollar
Nothing wrong with the offer. Players need to read rules, then make a decision. I would have no problem here.
 
peteep

peteep

EOG Addicted
Krackman said:
Yea! I guess I was more thinking like if you deposit a few dimes you cant touch any money for 60 days. You should be allowed to get winnings.
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True. Would only deposit the $200.
 
Betmonkey

Betmonkey

EOG Veteran
That's the fist time I've seen a book say they will take your WINNINGS for early withdrawal. Is that a common thing?? I can understand taking back the bonuses and fees but winnings also???:+clueless
 
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jaguar

EOG Member
Betmonkey said:
That's the fist time I've seen a book say they will take your WINNINGS for early withdrawal. Is that a common thing?? I can understand taking back the bonuses and fees but winnings also???:+clueless
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That is not the only book if I understand the rule below correctly that they will take all the winnings and not just 10% of the winnings if the bonus was 10%.


From Bodog

If a withdrawal is made before the bonus terms are met, all bonus funds AS WELL as any money earned by wagering the bonus will be forfeited.
 
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Ronin

2
The General said:
Nothing wrong with the offer. Players need to read rules, then make a decision.
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There is plenty wrong with the offer. Why not stop your constant shilling for the sportsbooks and analyze what is written, and then actually try and give an objective opinion once in a while.

Just because a book has some ridiculous rule does not make it right.

No book should ever be allowed to confiscate winnings for not meeting a rollover requirement.
 
K

Krackman

EOG Senior Member
General you are kidding right? You dont find it wrong that a book will keep the winnings if a player gets a payout? YOU CANT BE SERIOUS?

WTF?
 
Chuck Sims

Chuck Sims

EOG Dedicated
"If you withdraw any amount at all prior to meeting BOTH requirements, you will lose your bonuses, your fees, and all winnings before any payout is processed AND you will pay all transfer costs involved with your payout."

Go ahead and send them your money to get the bonus. As soon as the 60 days is up, WD all your funds. If enough sharps do this, you'll bury them. Good luck.
 
The General

The General

Another Day, Another Dollar
Are the posted rules clear and precise? Yes or no?

Do you have to play there? Yes or no?

Hollywood, Olympic, & MVP on the front page of the forum for their supposed problems.

Boys, We need sports books around to do what we do.

If you chase bonuses, deal with it.

:+signs9-1
 
O

OMNIVOROUS FROG

EOG Master
I would have no problem taking the bonus, waiting for the time limit and see you later. Is it a bad rule. Without a doubt. But any rule up front is pretty much buyer beware. Just another land mine, although visable I am sure it has blown up it's share of unsophisticated players. Personally, I find it offensive they could consficate any winnings, under any rule. Forfeit the bonus I can see. But that is just bad business. I am already done with them, but that rule is insignificant to me. If you are operating on a thin bankroll, or only have one or two books, I would avoid them.


Best Wishes...OF :+waving-5


After rereading this...

AND actively play for 60-days prior to any withdrawal.




That is a problem, as it does not state funds may not be withdrawn for 60 days, but you must be actively playing. Who makes this determination? Talk about vague. Here is where I have a problem with that. I load up, make a big deposit. Get lucky and double or triple it. Meet all the 6X rollover in 30 days. So now you are in a pickle. Do you keep building a balance in an account you cannot withdraw from? Are you worried your money is stuck in a place where you have never withdrawn from? What is the definition of actively play? I have been there on this one. I met my rollovers in less than two weeks, but could not withdraw for 30 days. I made zero bets after the rollover was met, and withdrew when the 30 days hit. I would not sign up here with that rule, under any circumstances...
 
O

OMNIVOROUS FROG

EOG Master
The first $200 is above average, that 10% is below average. Plus that subject to interpretation rule just sucks. Sorry, you made the rollover and lasted for 60 days, but in that last week you only made two wagers, which does not qualify as actively wagering. You lose all winnings, bonus and fees. Have a nice day.


Best Wishes...OF :+waving-5
 
S

Sherman

EOG Enthusiast
nothing wrong w/ those rules.....either you like the offer or you don't.....personally, i think it is a good one....
 
K

Krackman

EOG Senior Member
Hard to believe some of the responses in this thread. General, This has zero to do with chasing bonuses. Is it me or do you just stick up for every sportsbook and their mothers when someone says something about them? You were never this bad across the street WTF? This sportsbook spammed me and I am just criticizing the rules by which they set fourth if I open up with them. I just do not know of many places that will confiscate your winnings like this.
 
The General

The General

Another Day, Another Dollar
I am the same person as at rx Krackman. I do not think you will see any unjustified siezures here. I am only saying that I would accept the terms for a modest amount with no problem. When you have dealt with as many scams as I have you learn to realize that the books are not nearly the bad guy as many players are. I tend to try and use the board to see and share more positive than negative about this business. Anyone can sit around and find the bad things. I can find fault in procedure at EVERY sports book on this planet, but as well, I can find some good to share, for the most part.
 
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JJGOLD

1
I was never into bonuses so pros or cons of them at various books do not faze me.

I still think Pinny low juice beats any bonus.
 
K

Krackman

EOG Senior Member
I stick up for just as many sportsbooks as I criticize. Scams hurt books therefore makes it harder for books to pay winning players.
 
R

Ronin

2
The General said:
Are the posted rules clear and precise? Yes or no?

Do you have to play there? Yes or no?
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Is it alright for books to put in ridiculous rules which can only be used to steal from the players? Yes or no?

Just because a book has a ridiculous rule, does that mean it is then alright for players to get abused if they do not follow it to the letter? Yes or no?

If a book has a rule that says if you do not complete the rollover within 30 days, then they will close your account and confiscate all your money, is that alright with you? Yes or no?

If it is not alright, then where do YOU draw the line?

Are you ever going to stop defending indefensible policies that some books have, and make at least a minimal effort to be objective? Yes or no?
 
The General

The General

Another Day, Another Dollar
Ronin,

I have spent countless hours for 3? years defending players and getting them 1000's of thousands of dollars owed. I feel like I am pretty fair minded. Just because I don't agree with you on a situation, you feel the need to try and argue me when you can. I'll be around to help when you have a real dispute.

:+drinks-4
 
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Ronin

2
You have done good work getting players paid, and you are to be commended for that. That does not give you a free ride to make comments like you did in this thread where you defend an indefensible policy.

You should be contacting the book and trying to get them to change or remove that restriction. You should NEVER be defending it and saying things like there is nothing wrong.

You seem like a good guy, but this constant and uncalled for shilling should really end sooner rather than later. This is a new site and you will surely turn off many potential posters if you continue on the course you have been on lately. I doubt that Krackman is the only one to notice this.
 
The General

The General

Another Day, Another Dollar
I'll try and improve Ronin.

Btw, I have checked my blood pressure 5 times in the last 2 days.

180/104
140/61
137/87
128/86
132/83

Started bad, but improving. :smoke
 
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sharp moments

EOG Member
six-times in the sportsbook, racebook, casino and poker room, AND actively play for 60-days


This can mean a few different things:

1) play 6x roll in 4 different places (casino, sports, race, poker)
2) play 24x roll, 6x in each of the four places
3) Actively play can mean anything that they want it to mean.

Too ambiguous..except that it is clear you will lose your winnings.
 
P

pioneer

EOG Dedicated
General, (and Shrink also, I would appreciate your reply here too)

I don't understand why you are being so obstinate here? As an individual, you do have a right to your own opinion, and if it is your opinion that this offer from MVP is acceptable to you, then fine, you are certainly allowed to state that opinion. (And we, meaning the reasonable posters at this site, are certainly within our rights to call you a F**king idiot for that opinion!).

But sir, you are also an employee of EOG, (which is why I want a reply from the Shrink also), and as such, you have a responsibility to promote and insure, fair practices amongst sportsbooks and players. I might add, at the risk of sounding obsequious, that you have fulfilled that responsibility admirably in the past. But like Ronin says, all that good behavior on your part in the past, does not give you the right to accept, nigh even to promote unfair practices by sportsbooks in the future!

Let me state this clearly and unequivocally...THERE IS NEVER ANY INSTANCE WHEN A SPORTSBOOK CAN JUSTIFIABLY CONFISCATE A PLAYER'S DEPOSIT AND/OR WINNINGS! This must be EOG's position and I would appreciate if both you and the Shrink would post your concurrence with that statement!

Like I said in my opening, I don't understand why you are being so obstinate about this, as far as I can tell, MVP is not even an advertiser here (perhaps you're just keeping your options open to them advertising in the future). EOG must adopt and promote this policy that a sportsbook can never rightfully confiscate a player's deposit and/or winnings. The sooner, the better...this is a new site and its viability literally depends on this action!

Furthermore, whether MVP is an advertiser or not, since you chose to comment on this offer, it is now incumbent upon EOG to contact MVP and insist that they clarify the ambiguities pointed out by the poster, sharp moments (who is so very aptly named)!

That's all for now, but I'll be watching and hopefully this won't take 40 days to resolve like the forum jump issue!
 
ZZ CREAM

ZZ CREAM

EOG Master
Ronin said:
Is it alright for books to put in ridiculous rules which can only be used to steal from the players? Yes or no?

Just because a book has a ridiculous rule, does that mean it is then alright for players to get abused if they do not follow it to the letter? Yes or no?

If a book has a rule that says if you do not complete the rollover within 30 days, then they will close your account and confiscate all your money, is that alright with you? Yes or no?

If it is not alright, then where do YOU draw the line?

Are you ever going to stop defending indefensible policies that some books have, and make at least a minimal effort to be objective? Yes or no?
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Why would anyone even consider playing at a spot where they were not completely comfortable with? Even so, they are talking about $200. Barely enough to fill up a pick-up truck! Like Froggie says, if you do not like their rules,(as long as their rules are clearly posted before you send them money), do not play there. This is like one of those hamsters running around on one of those wheels that never stop!
 
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