Your Level of Concern About the Coronavirus......on a scale of 1-10

I guess today the NYT ain't fake news. What will tomorrow bring?
On top of that the cultists have adopted this theme that the deaths are to be are to be discounted if they are seniors. Interesting strategy when seniors are the most dependable voting block of any demographic there is. BunkerBoy probably unaware to why his senior support keeps cratering.
 
Last I checked, 75000+ died that weren’t from a nursing home. It doesn’t look good, no matter how one wants to spin the numbers.
Viruses are part of life on earth, you live with them. intentionally destroying your way of life in a futile attempt to fight against it is truly insane. Death rates across the world are comparable no matter what was done or when they did it.
 
Viruses are part of life on earth, you live with them. intentionally destroying your way of life in a futile attempt to fight against it is truly insane. Death rates across the world are comparable no matter what was done or when they did it.
Absolutely false claim by you once again comparing death rates across the world

Look at South Korea alone. Their first confirmed Covid case came on same day as USA. 282 Covid deaths in S Korea.

The difference? SK was proactive with testing and distancing from the get go.

Dr Charlie continues to throw out garbage with no facts or knowledge behind it

Sad
 
And Hong Kong is the poster child for wearing masks
99% of adults wear them there since inception of outbreak
4 dead
Four dead
Let that sink in
It's a proven fact wearing masks saves lives. Even those close to the president are now telling everyone to wear one. Ben Carson, Mike Pence, Alex Azar have all said recently that everyone should be wearing a mask in public, but the president still won't do it, if everyone had been wearing a mask since the beginning we would be close to beating this thing, but since half the country wont, we're stuck dealing with spikes all over the country. Trump has fucked this whole thing up right from the start, all he had to do was tell everyone to wear a mask and the majority of his cultists would have and we'd be in a much better place
 
The key to beating Cocid is to wear a mask, social distancing, and do more testing. Trump has done the exact opposite, no mask wearing, no social distancing and less tests, it's as if he's intentionally trying to kill as many Americans as possible
 
The letter added that the price for US private insurance companies will be $520 per vial, which adds up to $3,120 per patient for a five-day treatment course of six vials.



Soon as i get to the window the doctor will say my insurance won't cover it. I am shut out
 
NY deaths at 7 today, new cases very low, positive % as low as it's been, so what does Cuomo and deblasio say...we're worried, very worried. They may delay opening inside dining in NYC, why you might ask, because they're scared. what happened to letting the data guide their decisions?

You guys catching on yet?
 
NY deaths at 7 today, new cases very low, positive % as low as it's been, so what does Cuomo and deblasio say...we're worried, very worried. They may delay opening inside dining in NYC, why you might ask, because they're scared. what happened to letting the data guide their decisions?

You guys catching on yet?
You don’t think there will be 200K dead by Election Day and you’re asking if we are catching on yet?

So rich Dr Charlie
 
You don’t think there will be 200K dead by Election Day and you’re asking if we are catching on yet?

So rich Dr Charlie
I doubt it, about 3 weeks ago another dire prediction came out, it said we would have 140,000 dead by july 1, at that time we were just passing 120K - well we have 1 day to go and it's unlikely we even hit 130K. So in a prediction looking 3 weeks out they missed it by 50%. not even close.

That friedman guy(former head of something under obama) was on the sunday shows yesterday, he talked about how bad things are going, how dangerous it was to reopen, all dire stuff, then he was asked about deaths and why they're still dropping and have fallen so far. He blathered on about lagging indicators, etc, then he made his mistake - he told the truth, he said another 15000 people will die in july - which would avg 500/day. We are above that now, we haven't gotten anywhere near that low yet. So after all that busllshit about exploding cases, rushed reopenings, ignoring science, he basically admitted that deaths will keep dropping.

Which means he lied through his teeth, his agenda is only to scare, to drum up fear.
 
Viruses are part of life on earth, you live with them. intentionally destroying your way of life in a futile attempt to fight against it is truly insane. Death rates across the world are comparable no matter what was done or when they did it.
Question

Sweden did nothing to mitigate the virus. They have 6450 cases/million, 523 deaths/million and tested 44 k people/million.

Sweden shares a 1000 mile border with Norway.

Norway has 1635 cases per million, 46 deaths and has tested 62k per million. Norway had strict quarantine and lockdown regulations in place March 13.

As you have stated, no matter what precautions are taken, morbidity rates are the same. You state that mitigation is not necessary.

Please assess these two examples as they apply to your theories.
 
I doubt it, about 3 weeks ago another dire prediction came out, it said we would have 140,000 dead by july 1, at that time we were just passing 120K - well we have 1 day to go and it's unlikely we even hit 130K. So in a prediction looking 3 weeks out they missed it by 50%. not even close.

That friedman guy(former head of something under obama) was on the sunday shows yesterday, he talked about how bad things are going, how dangerous it was to reopen, all dire stuff, then he was asked about deaths and why they're still dropping and have fallen so far. He blathered on about lagging indicators, etc, then he made his mistake - he told the truth, he said another 15000 people will die in july - which would avg 500/day. We are above that now, we haven't gotten anywhere near that low yet. So after all that busllshit about exploding cases, rushed reopenings, ignoring science, he basically admitted that deaths will keep dropping.

Which means he lied through his teeth, his agenda is only to scare, to drum up fear.
Deaths are a lagging indicator to Covid outbreaks and we’ve already seen the death totals rising in AZ-FLA-GA-TX-CA
 
The isolation, grief and economic hardship related to covid-19 are creating a mental health crisis in the U.S. that researchers warn could make the already-rising suicide rate worse.

A study released Friday tried to quantify the toll. The paper, which was not peer-reviewed, found that over the next decade as many as 75,000 additional people could die from "deaths of despair" as a result of the coronavirus crisis, a term that refers to suicides and substance-abuse-related deaths. The research was done by the Well Being Trust and researchers affiliated with the American Academy of Family Physicians.

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/The-next-covid-crisis-could-be-a-wave-of-suicides-15256288.php
 
The isolation, grief and economic hardship related to covid-19 are creating a mental health crisis in the U.S. that researchers warn could make the already-rising suicide rate worse.

A study released Friday tried to quantify the toll. The paper, which was not peer-reviewed, found that over the next decade as many as 75,000 additional people could die from "deaths of despair" as a result of the coronavirus crisis, a term that refers to suicides and substance-abuse-related deaths. The research was done by the Well Being Trust and researchers affiliated with the American Academy of Family Physicians.

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/The-next-covid-crisis-could-be-a-wave-of-suicides-15256288.php

not in places where it was swiftly and properly responded to.

Nobody sweating Covid in New Zealand, Norway, Hong Kong, S. Korea, Australia, Denmark and a host of other countries who had response plans in place and quickly mitigated it's spread.

Even some of the hardest hit countries have put Covid behind them.

I would think that grief and economic suffering from the pandemic will just become part of the fabric of everyday life in Murheeeeka.

Lots of guns and even more reason to eat them over there.
 
not in places where it was swiftly and properly responded to.

Nobody sweating Covid in New Zealand, Norway, Hong Kong, S. Korea, Australia, Denmark and a host of other countries who had response plans in place and quickly mitigated it's spread.

Even some of the hardest hit countries have put Covid behind them.

I would think that grief and economic suffering from the pandemic will just become part of the fabric of everyday life in Murheeeeka.

Lots of guns and even more reason to eat them over there.
So lockdowns don't cause depression, drug/alcohol abuse, and economic hardship in other countries?

Interesting.
 
The key to beating Cocid is to wear a mask, social distancing, and do more testing. Trump has done the exact opposite, no mask wearing, no social distancing and less tests, it's as if he's intentionally trying to kill as many Americans as possible
The protests, riots and parades are proving that what you are saying is nonsense. Deaths are going down.
 
One week ago...

Authorities in South Korea have said the country is experiencing a second wave of the coronavirus in and around Seoul, and warned that stronger physical-distancing measures will be reimposed if the daily increase in infections does not come down.

Confirmation of the new wave came as the Israeli government said a lockdown could be reintroduced amid a sharp rise in cases, and a team of contact tracing experts prepared to deploy to the Australian state of Victoria to tackle a new outbreak in Melbourne.

The new outbreaks once again highlight the difficulties of fully eradicating the virus, even in countries considered role models in their initial response to the pandemic.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...t-new-covid-19-cases-surge-south-korea-israel

Viva las lockdowns!
 

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What were we saying about 75,000 deaths?
Merlin or Raiders brought up the point that 43% of the deaths were from the nursing homes. I said that 75k deaths were not from the NH. Now I agree with you as it is placing a mental issue with people. It hasn’t affected what I do outside of I’m not going to the casino.
 
Merlin or Raiders brought up the point that 43% of the deaths were from the nursing homes. I said that 75k deaths were not from the NH. Now I agree with you as it is placing a mental issue with people. It hasn’t affected what I do outside of I’m not going to the casino.
The problem is that lockdowns do nothing to eradicate the virus.

We either do what we set out to do which was ensure that hospitals are not overburdened or we cause more long-lasting hardship trying to minimize deaths.

Somewhere along the way, the left was able to change the objective in all of this. And way too many people are buying into the new rules at the expense of a lot more than just COVID-19 casualties.
 

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Bells Beer Connoisseur
The problem is that lockdowns do nothing to eradicate the virus.

We either do what we set out to do which was ensure that hospitals are not overburdened or we cause more long-lasting hardship trying to minimize deaths.

Somewhere along the way, the left was able to change the objective in all of this. And way too many people are buying into the new rules at the expense of a lot more than just COVID-19 casualties.
This +100 especially the last paragraph.
 
So lockdowns don't cause depression, drug/alcohol abuse, and economic hardship in other countries?

Interesting.

I would think in countries with ham headed fukk ups at the helm like Murheeeeka, Brazil, Britain the Covid 19 mental health issues will become part of life.

In countries where strict mitigation pretty much made the virus a manageable situation, not so much.
 
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