You don’t think there will be 200K dead by Election Day and you’re asking if we are catching on yet?
So rich Dr Charlie
Your Level of Concern About the Coronavirus......on a scale of 1-10
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You don’t think there will be 200K dead by Election Day and you’re asking if we are catching on yet?
So rich Dr Charlie
boston massacre
EOG Master
They'll Be over 200K Dead By Murder by Election Day, in Democratic Run Cities Alone.
Mob Control, Setting up Shop, in Blue Real Estate.
WAKE UP PEOPLE.
Mob Control, Setting up Shop, in Blue Real Estate.
WAKE UP PEOPLE.
well worth repeating brother
mr merlin
EOG Master
I doubt it, about 3 weeks ago another dire prediction came out, it said we would have 140,000 dead by july 1, at that time we were just passing 120K - well we have 1 day to go and it's unlikely we even hit 130K. So in a prediction looking 3 weeks out they missed it by 50%. not even close.
That friedman guy(former head of something under obama) was on the sunday shows yesterday, he talked about how bad things are going, how dangerous it was to reopen, all dire stuff, then he was asked about deaths and why they're still dropping and have fallen so far. He blathered on about lagging indicators, etc, then he made his mistake - he told the truth, he said another 15000 people will die in july - which would avg 500/day. We are above that now, we haven't gotten anywhere near that low yet. So after all that busllshit about exploding cases, rushed reopenings, ignoring science, he basically admitted that deaths will keep dropping.
Which means he lied through his teeth, his agenda is only to scare, to drum up fear.
Question
Sweden did nothing to mitigate the virus. They have 6450 cases/million, 523 deaths/million and tested 44 k people/million.
Sweden shares a 1000 mile border with Norway.
Norway has 1635 cases per million, 46 deaths and has tested 62k per million. Norway had strict quarantine and lockdown regulations in place March 13.
As you have stated, no matter what precautions are taken, morbidity rates are the same. You state that mitigation is not necessary.
Please assess these two examples as they apply to your theories.
Deaths are a lagging indicator to Covid outbreaks and we’ve already seen the death totals rising in AZ-FLA-GA-TX-CA
MonkeyF0cker
EOG Dedicated
The isolation, grief and economic hardship related to covid-19 are creating a mental health crisis in the U.S. that researchers warn could make the already-rising suicide rate worse.
A study released Friday tried to quantify the toll. The paper, which was not peer-reviewed, found that over the next decade as many as 75,000 additional people could die from "deaths of despair" as a result of the coronavirus crisis, a term that refers to suicides and substance-abuse-related deaths. The research was done by the Well Being Trust and researchers affiliated with the American Academy of Family Physicians.
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/The-next-covid-crisis-could-be-a-wave-of-suicides-15256288.php
A study released Friday tried to quantify the toll. The paper, which was not peer-reviewed, found that over the next decade as many as 75,000 additional people could die from "deaths of despair" as a result of the coronavirus crisis, a term that refers to suicides and substance-abuse-related deaths. The research was done by the Well Being Trust and researchers affiliated with the American Academy of Family Physicians.
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/The-next-covid-crisis-could-be-a-wave-of-suicides-15256288.php
MonkeyF0cker
EOG Dedicated
What were we saying about 75,000 deaths?
not in places where it was swiftly and properly responded to.
Nobody sweating Covid in New Zealand, Norway, Hong Kong, S. Korea, Australia, Denmark and a host of other countries who had response plans in place and quickly mitigated it's spread.
Even some of the hardest hit countries have put Covid behind them.
I would think that grief and economic suffering from the pandemic will just become part of the fabric of everyday life in Murheeeeka.
Lots of guns and even more reason to eat them over there.
Cases are rising, not death tolls. When you don't need a doctor referral, it's free and people wait in line for hours, cases go up.
MonkeyF0cker
EOG Dedicated
So lockdowns don't cause depression, drug/alcohol abuse, and economic hardship in other countries?
Interesting.
The protests, riots and parades are proving that what you are saying is nonsense. Deaths are going down.
MonkeyF0cker
EOG Dedicated
One week ago...
Authorities in South Korea have said the country is experiencing a second wave of the coronavirus in and around Seoul, and warned that stronger physical-distancing measures will be reimposed if the daily increase in infections does not come down.
Confirmation of the new wave came as the Israeli government said a lockdown could be reintroduced amid a sharp rise in cases, and a team of contact tracing experts prepared to deploy to the Australian state of Victoria to tackle a new outbreak in Melbourne.
The new outbreaks once again highlight the difficulties of fully eradicating the virus, even in countries considered role models in their initial response to the pandemic.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...t-new-covid-19-cases-surge-south-korea-israel
Viva las lockdowns!
Authorities in South Korea have said the country is experiencing a second wave of the coronavirus in and around Seoul, and warned that stronger physical-distancing measures will be reimposed if the daily increase in infections does not come down.
Confirmation of the new wave came as the Israeli government said a lockdown could be reintroduced amid a sharp rise in cases, and a team of contact tracing experts prepared to deploy to the Australian state of Victoria to tackle a new outbreak in Melbourne.
The new outbreaks once again highlight the difficulties of fully eradicating the virus, even in countries considered role models in their initial response to the pandemic.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...t-new-covid-19-cases-surge-south-korea-israel
Viva las lockdowns!
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
Merlin or Raiders brought up the point that 43% of the deaths were from the nursing homes. I said that 75k deaths were not from the NH. Now I agree with you as it is placing a mental issue with people. It hasn’t affected what I do outside of I’m not going to the casino.
MonkeyF0cker
EOG Dedicated
The problem is that lockdowns do nothing to eradicate the virus.
We either do what we set out to do which was ensure that hospitals are not overburdened or we cause more long-lasting hardship trying to minimize deaths.
Somewhere along the way, the left was able to change the objective in all of this. And way too many people are buying into the new rules at the expense of a lot more than just COVID-19 casualties.
We had 285 deaths yesterday total in the US. Your numbers are off. Don't start posting more fake news. You've been clean today.
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
This +100 especially the last paragraph.
We all feel better knowing Covidiots like you and Dr Charlie have a grasp on the state of the pandemic.
Stop reading fake news and you'll have a better handle.
The problem will you libs is that you can't think and figure things out on your own. You have to repeat what CNN and MSNBC say.
I would think in countries with ham headed fukk ups at the helm like Murheeeeka, Brazil, Britain the Covid 19 mental health issues will become part of life.
In countries where strict mitigation pretty much made the virus a manageable situation, not so much.
The girl that burned herself and Bubba are two instances where you libs just repeated what the media said. The rest of us put 2 and 2 together.
MonkeyF0cker
EOG Dedicated
So the countries with more restrictive lockdowns is where the mental health issues due to lockdowns affect them less.
Got it.
I'll push this to Junkeedukker.
MonkeyF0cker
EOG Dedicated
So people only die from COVID-19 in those countries?
Almost seems like a rational argument to believe that's the only measuring stick of success in dealing with the virus.
no no no
answer the question
norway vs sweden.
no other countries, no other data.
no tootsie pops, window blinds, Taxi cabs, Elon musk or any other tapdance you got
sweden
norway.
MonkeyF0cker
EOG Dedicated
Not a rational argument.
Sorry.
Sorry.
MonkeyF0cker
EOG Dedicated
Throw in data on before/during/after the lockdowns on suicides, cancer treatments, heart attacks, arythmias, drug/alcohol abuse, etc. and youre getting closer to a rational argument.
It's population density. As I said, you libs can't put 2 and 2 together.
Read about Stockholm
Population density! Look at the population density of the two countries and then look at the Stockholm deaths,
Population density! Look at the population density of the two countries and then look at the Stockholm deaths,
MonkeyF0cker
EOG Dedicated
Great. That's like arguing that robbing a bank makes people rich.
Look at the population of Sweden. Then look at the population of Stockholm. Everyone lives there.