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Jimmy Hoffa · 02-27-08, 11:41 PM

2008 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION - WINNER:

2008-02-29 09:0

Spread

Price

Spread

Price

HILLARY CLINTON

0

+500

BARACK OBAMA

0

-125

JOHN MCCAIN

0

+150

MITT ROMNEY

0

+0

Off

MIKE HUCKABEE

0

+7,500

RON PAUL

0

+8,000

THE FIELD

0

+1,800

Flamingo kid · 02-27-08, 11:46 PM

Bet whatever you want on Ron Paul. This bet is a.....

dirty · 02-27-08, 11:49 PM

yes if you bet on Obama

Jimmy Hoffa · 02-27-08, 11:51 PM

Here's the play:

Bet 1: (McCain)	$720.00	@ +150
Bet 2: (Obama)	$1,000.00	@ -125


Total Investment:	$1,720.00

Total Return:	$1,800.00

Total Profit:	$80

ROI:	4.65%

dirty · 02-27-08, 11:54 PM

Can't beat that

Jeff Jones · 02-27-08, 11:57 PM

Once anybody mentions "free money" in connection with gambling, you're doomed.

dirty · 02-27-08, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Jones

Once anybody mentions "free money" in connection with gambling, you're doomed.

How do you figure... he makes $80 No matter how you slice it and that is a Profit last time I checked

Halifax · 02-28-08, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy Hoffa

Here's the play:

Bet 1: (McCain)	$720.00	@ +150
Bet 2: (Obama)	$1,000.00	@ -125


Total Investment:	$1,720.00

Total Return:	$1,800.00

Total Profit:	$80

ROI:	4.65%

-125 = Good Line on Obama

+150 = Lousy Line on McCain / Repubs .... should be able to get close to +200 on that side of the bet with some looking, +180 without looking much

Jeff Jones · 02-28-08, 12:13 AM

Well, as a math problem, I guess it's the right answer.

But the question is:

1) If you are the average EOG poster why are you tying up $1720 for nine months to make $80?

2) And if you are rich beyond compare, why would you do this for $80?

Fine. Do it.

You can't make it up.

Jimmy Hoffa · 02-28-08, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Jones

If you are the average EOG poster

I'm not.

Jeff Jones · 02-28-08, 12:22 AM

Below average is respected as well.

The General · 02-28-08, 12:22 AM

Good stuff guys

PSUONE · 02-28-08, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirty

How do you figure... he makes $80 No matter how you slice it and that is a Profit last time I checked

I know the whore is a long shot but free money?

chandler1981 · 02-28-08, 12:46 AM

Jimmy, before I read down to your bet I was going to mention this scenerio. I didnt do the math but I appreciate you sharing! Looks like free money to me.

chandler1981 · 02-28-08, 12:49 AM

I might just take a chance on McCain pullin through.

Have you seen a future for Dem Candidate and Rep Candidate. Im sure the odds are terrible for Obama and McCain tho. Prob -550 to -800??

dirty · 02-28-08, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PSUONE

I know the whore is a long shot but free money?

She has no shot... I watched the debate last night and Obama made her look like a Idiot....

Quote:

Originally Posted by chandler1981

I might just take a chance on McCain pullin through.

Have you seen a future for Dem Candidate and Rep Candidate. Im sure the odds are terrible for Obama and McCain tho. Prob -550 to -800??

McCain better become a better Public speaker.. Obama will run Circles around him in a Debate....

Grand Master B · 02-28-08, 12:52 AM

never a free shot when you're tying your cash up offshore for that long. Hell, online savings accounts are paying just about that much and they're federally insured.

terrible idea.

PSUONE · 02-28-08, 12:57 AM

Well...... wouldnt you guys just max bet Obama at -265ish for Dem at all the books?

U.S.A. ELECTIONS
U.S.A. ELECTIONS - Mar 04

DEMOCRATIC TEXAS PRIMARIE - WINNER
3 /04 /0812:00 AM
15993

BARACK OBAMA

-265

15994

HILARY CLINTON

+215

15995

THE FIELD

+2400

DEMOCRATIC OHIO PRIMARIE - WINNER
3 /04 /0812:00 AM
15596

BARACK OBAMA

-105

15597

HILARY CLINTON

-125

15598

THE FIELD

+3000

2008 U.S.A ELECTIONS

PARTY TO WIN THE PRESIDENCY
3 /04 /0812:00 AM
1001

REPUBLICAN PARTY

+125

1002

DEMOCRATIC PARTY

-230

1003

ANY OTHER PARTY

+3000

2008 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION -WINNER
3 /04 /0812:00 AM
15980

HILLARY CLINTON

+600

15981

BARACK OBAMA

-180

15983

JOHN MCCAIN

+115

15991

THE FIELD

+7750

The Prophet · 02-28-08, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy Hoffa
Here's the play:

Bet 1: (McCain) $720.00 @ +150
Bet 2: (Obama) $1,000.00 @ -125

Total Investment: $1,720.00

Total Return: $1,800.00

Total Profit: $80

ROI: 4.65%

Quote:

JEFF JONES: Well, as a math problem, I guess it's the right answer.

But the question is:

1) If you are the average EOG poster why are you tying up $1720 for nine months to make $80?

2) And if you are rich beyond compare, why would you do this for $80?

Fine. Do it.

You can't make it up.

Quote:

HOFFA: I'm not.

Quote:

JEFF JONES: Below average is respected as well.

I THINK I JUST SPILT SOMETHING...

BUT DOES IT OUT DUEL THE DSETHI DEAL?

.

munson15 · 02-28-08, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Jones

Below average is respected as well.

Jeff, you keep betting and losing, and guys like Jimmy can keep picking up the leftovers and piling up their chips.

munson15 · 02-28-08, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy Hoffa

Here's the play:

Bet 1: (McCain)	$720.00	@ +150
Bet 2: (Obama)	$1,000.00	@ -125


Total Investment:	$1,720.00

Total Return:	$1,800.00

Total Profit:	$80

ROI:	4.65%

I love it, like buying a 9 month CD. With interest rates as low as they are, that's a fine ROI. I'm guessing you don't have access to the better lines that are available on McCain. Congrats, Jimmy.

Grand Master B · 02-28-08, 10:24 AM

It puzzles me how guys can equate tying your money up at oddsmaker for 9 months to a cd.

Way too much risk for the extra $15 for me.

Jimmy Hoffa · 02-28-08, 10:25 AM

The appeal here is that the scalp is at the same book rather than scalping across 2 platforms.

Reload · 02-28-08, 10:34 AM

I'm not a huge expert on betting elections but over the years I've noticed it's best to wait for the national conventions. During the Democratic convention, the Democrats look real strong and the odds get jacked that way so bet Republican then. Same thing for the Republican convention - that's when to get the best odds for the Democratic party candidate.

munson15 · 02-28-08, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grand Master B

It puzzles me how guys can equate tying your money up at oddsmaker for 9 months to a cd.

Way too much risk for the extra $15 for me.

If you can't trust the most solid books then you shouldn't have any money offshore. If you do, then the ROI is better than a CD, that's all I'm saying.

If you are saying that oddsmaker is a risky place, then you may have a point. I didn't notice the book he played it at, and I don't know a lot about them.

Would you feel differently if he had placed the action at 5dimes, Matchbook or the like?

Jimmy Hoffa · 02-28-08, 10:41 AM

After Hillary fizzles out next week these kinds of prop scalps will be non-existent.

Reload · 02-28-08, 10:49 AM

It's good general advice to only bet elections that are a while away at only the most solid books. A lot can happen with weaker books, especially during this time of year. They could get killed with March Madness, baseball, etc. and await football to bail them out in the fall which it may or may not do. Some books might also jerk people around and wait until the inauguration to pay up on elections while more solid places will pay the day after election night. Like any other "future" sorts of bets, just be a little careful.

02-27-08, 11:46 PM	#2
Flamingo kid EOG Dedicated Join Date: Jun 25, 2007 Posts: 7,659	Re: Anyone See Free Money Here? Bet whatever you want on Ron Paul. This bet is a.....

02-27-08, 11:49 PM	#3
dirty EOG Consigliere' Join Date: Aug 26, 2005 Location: Jawja Posts: 62,859	Re: Anyone See Free Money Here? yes if you bet on Obama

02-27-08, 11:54 PM	#5
dirty EOG Consigliere' Join Date: Aug 26, 2005 Location: Jawja Posts: 62,859	Re: Anyone See Free Money Here? Can't beat that

02-27-08, 11:57 PM	#6
Jeff Jones EOG Gadfly/Curmudgeon Join Date: Aug 27, 2007 Location: The South Strip Posts: 8,225	Re: Anyone See Free Money Here? Once anybody mentions "free money" in connection with gambling, you're doomed.

02-28-08, 12:13 AM	#9
Jeff Jones EOG Gadfly/Curmudgeon Join Date: Aug 27, 2007 Location: The South Strip Posts: 8,225	Re: Anyone See Free Money Here? Well, as a math problem, I guess it's the right answer. But the question is: 1) If you are the average EOG poster why are you tying up $1720 for nine months to make $80? 2) And if you are rich beyond compare, why would you do this for $80? Fine. Do it. You can't make it up.

02-28-08, 12:22 AM	#11
Jeff Jones EOG Gadfly/Curmudgeon Join Date: Aug 27, 2007 Location: The South Strip Posts: 8,225	Re: Anyone See Free Money Here? Below average is respected as well.

02-28-08, 12:22 AM	#12
The General Another Day, Another Dollar Join Date: Jul 19, 2005 Location: A real precarious world..... Posts: 53,122	Re: Anyone See Free Money Here? Good stuff guys

02-28-08, 12:46 AM	#14
chandler1981 Undertaker Join Date: Jan 09, 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 772	Re: Anyone See Free Money Here? Jimmy, before I read down to your bet I was going to mention this scenerio. I didnt do the math but I appreciate you sharing! Looks like free money to me.

02-28-08, 12:49 AM	#15
chandler1981 Undertaker Join Date: Jan 09, 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 772	Re: Anyone See Free Money Here? I might just take a chance on McCain pullin through. Have you seen a future for Dem Candidate and Rep Candidate. Im sure the odds are terrible for Obama and McCain tho. Prob -550 to -800??

02-28-08, 12:52 AM	#17
Grand Master B Tell me how my ass tastes Join Date: Sep 06, 2005 Location: Rancho Relaxo Posts: 1,939	Re: Anyone See Free Money Here? never a free shot when you're tying your cash up offshore for that long. Hell, online savings accounts are paying just about that much and they're federally insured. terrible idea.

02-28-08, 12:57 AM	#18
PSUONE EOG Veteran Join Date: Oct 05, 2005 Posts: 1,872	Re: Anyone See Free Money Here? Well...... wouldnt you guys just max bet Obama at -265ish for Dem at all the books? U.S.A. ELECTIONS U.S.A. ELECTIONS - Mar 04 DEMOCRATIC TEXAS PRIMARIE - WINNER 3 /04 /0812:00 AM 15993 BARACK OBAMA -265 15994 HILARY CLINTON +215 15995 THE FIELD +2400 DEMOCRATIC OHIO PRIMARIE - WINNER 3 /04 /0812:00 AM 15596 BARACK OBAMA -105 15597 HILARY CLINTON -125 15598 THE FIELD +3000 2008 U.S.A ELECTIONS PARTY TO WIN THE PRESIDENCY 3 /04 /0812:00 AM 1001 REPUBLICAN PARTY +125 1002 DEMOCRATIC PARTY -230 1003 ANY OTHER PARTY +3000 2008 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION -WINNER 3 /04 /0812:00 AM 15980 HILLARY CLINTON +600 15981 BARACK OBAMA -180 15983 JOHN MCCAIN +115 15991 THE FIELD +7750

02-28-08, 10:24 AM	#22
Grand Master B Tell me how my ass tastes Join Date: Sep 06, 2005 Location: Rancho Relaxo Posts: 1,939	Re: Anyone See Free Money Here? It puzzles me how guys can equate tying your money up at oddsmaker for 9 months to a cd. Way too much risk for the extra $15 for me.

02-28-08, 10:25 AM	#23
Jimmy Hoffa Moderator Join Date: Aug 22, 2005 Posts: 13,326	Re: Anyone See Free Money Here? The appeal here is that the scalp is at the same book rather than scalping across 2 platforms.

02-28-08, 10:34 AM	#24
Reload Moderator Join Date: Jan 17, 2006 Posts: 19,633	Re: Anyone See Free Money Here? I'm not a huge expert on betting elections but over the years I've noticed it's best to wait for the national conventions. During the Democratic convention, the Democrats look real strong and the odds get jacked that way so bet Republican then. Same thing for the Republican convention - that's when to get the best odds for the Democratic party candidate.

02-28-08, 10:41 AM	#26
Jimmy Hoffa Moderator Join Date: Aug 22, 2005 Posts: 13,326	Re: Anyone See Free Money Here? After Hillary fizzles out next week these kinds of prop scalps will be non-existent.

02-28-08, 10:49 AM	#27
Reload Moderator Join Date: Jan 17, 2006 Posts: 19,633	Re: Anyone See Free Money Here? It's good general advice to only bet elections that are a while away at only the most solid books. A lot can happen with weaker books, especially during this time of year. They could get killed with March Madness, baseball, etc. and await football to bail them out in the fall which it may or may not do. Some books might also jerk people around and wait until the inauguration to pay up on elections while more solid places will pay the day after election night. Like any other "future" sorts of bets, just be a little careful.