Get $2.99 gas for three years if you buy a Chrysler, deal or no deal?

[Journeyman]

Interesting promo, Chrysler pulling out all stops to move vehicles.

Would you buy a Chrysler to lock in $2.99 a gallon for gas?
(12K mile limit per yr)

[cassiusclay]

Jman, I run a Chrysler Jeep store and let me tell you, this promo is gonna flop and is no good deal for the consumer.

[Journeyman]

If gas moves to $4.00 avg

12,000 miles at 20-25 mpg= $1,200-$1,800 savings (total) for 3 years, not worth buying a CHrysler over.

[Journeyman]

Originally Posted by cassiusclay

Jman, I run a Chrysler Jeep store and let me tell you, this promo is gonna flop and is no good deal for the consumer.

Do you know if you are locked in for the gas price? For instance if gas drops below 2.99 are you stuck at that proce or is it an option? Unless gas skyrockets this doesn't seem like any big deal.

[cassiusclay]

Let’s Refuel Ameri ca Pr ogr a m
Official Program Rules

PROGRAM PERIOD:
May 7, 2008 through June 2, 2008
PROGRAM TYPE:
Refer to latest version of the Incentive Program Rules Manual ( pr evi ousl y r ef err ed t o as t he Gol d Book) and Incentive
Summary Communications.
PROGRAM DESCRIPTION:
This special Let’ s Ref uel Ameri ca Program is offered to eligible retail consumers who purchase (Type Sale 1) or lease
(Type Sale L) an eligible vehicle during the program period. This special Let’ s Ref uel Ameri ca Program i s an
alternative to the traditional incentive offers of Consumer Cash/Lease Cash and/or APR. This offer consists of a
specifi c number of pri ce-protected gallons of fuel at $2.99 per gallon for regular 87 octane unl eaded, E85, or diesel
pur chases, per vehicle in addition to a Let’ s Ref uel Ameri ca Bonus Cash Program (amounts vary from $0 to $3,000 by
vehi cl e, as listed in the Model Eli gi bilit y secti on).
This program also contains the following elements:
1.) The eli gi ble consumer must have a vali d MasterCard or Visa credit card to participate in this program. No
debit cards or other credit cards are per mitt ed i n t hi s pr ogr a m.

Eli gi bl e consumer s must enroll for the Let’s Refuel America card via the Let’s Refuel America web site
(htt p://r ef uel a meri ca. pri cel ock. co m) or by calli ng the Let’ s Refuel Ameri ca Enrollment Center (1-800-866-
4656) bef or e July 31, 2008.

A Let’ s Ref uel Ameri ca car d will be i ssued to participating customers using the customer’s credit card
account i nf or mati on and must only be utilized for eligible fuel purchases. This card will be activated for
fuel purchases only. The customer will r ecei ve a PIN number to the Let’s Refuel America card for
securit y pur poses during the activation process. All amount s to be charged to the customer (e.g. $2.99)
will be billed to the Master Car d/ Vi sa cr edit car d that was registered by the consumer.

The Let’s Fuel America card must be issued in the name of the individual r eport ed as t he pur chaser on
the NVDR.
2.) Fuel purchases will be pr ot ect ed at $2. 99 per gall on f or 3 year s, di vi ded equall y i nt o yearl y i ncr ement s, with
the below listed requirements (any required rounding will be first applied t o year 3, t hen year 2 – if necessary):

If the vehicle uses unleaded fuel, the $2.99 offer covers up to 87 octane fuel, but not diesel fuel. Diesel
purchases will be passed t hr ough t o t he cust omer at f ull pump pri ce pl us a $2 ser vi ce f ee per tr ansacti on.

If the vehicle can use E85 fuel, the $2.99 offer will cover E85 or up to 87 octane, but not diesel fuel.
Diesel purchases will be passed through to the customer at full pump price plus a $2 service fee per
transaction.

If the vehi cl e r equi r es di esel f uel, the $2.99 offer will cover diesel fuel only. Unleaded fuel purchases
(including E85) will be passed through to the customer at full pump price plus a $2 service fee per
transaction.
3.) The Let’s Refuel America program is desi gned t o pr ovi de parti ci pati ng customers a specified number of
gallons of required fuel (87 octane, E85 fuel, or diesel) at a $2.99 per gallon price for 3 years. Participating
consumers may el ect t o upgr ade t hei r f uel qualit y pur chases, and t hese pur chases will be consi der ed as “Out
of Scope” purchases with t he not ed char ges/ pri ces outli ned bel o w:

If the consumer pur chases a hi gher gr ade of gas (i. e. Mi d-Grade or Premi um) on an unleaded gas card,
the consumer will be bill ed f or t he $2. 99 pl us $. 15 per gall on f or mi d-gradef uel f or a total of $3.14 per
gallon (88 and/or 89 octane) or plus $.30 per gallon for premium fuel for a total of $3.29 per gallon (90 to
94 octane). Al l ot her gr ades of f uel hi gher t han 94 oct ane ar e not cover ed under t hi s pr ogr a m, and the full
pump price will be bill ed t hr ough t o t he consumer, plus a $2 service fee per transaction. In addition, if a
consumer pur chases unl eaded gas (i ncl udi ng E85) on a di esel car d, t he consumer will be billed the full
pump pri ce pl us a $2 ser vi ce f ee per tr ansacti on.



4.) The yearly allotment of fuel protected at $2.99 will have the following start and expiration dates:

1st year begins upon receipt of fuel card and has an expi r ati on dat e of 7-31-09

2nd year begi ns on 8-1-09 and has an expi r ati on dat e of 7-31-10

3rd year begins on 8-1-10 and has an expi r ati on dat e of 7-31-11
5.) If the annual fuel gall on all ot ment i s used, t he car d will not aut hori ze any pur chases until the next scheduled
annual allotment time period is reached.
6.) If the annual and / or pr ogr a m gall on all ot ment i s not used duri ng the appropriate time period, any unused
gallons will expire and not roll-over to the next year.
7.) If the Let’ s Ref uel Ameri ca card is used to purchase fuel at a price less than $2.99, the price will not be
adj ust ed, but t he gall on usage will still be applied against the maximum annual allotment.
8.) If the consumer’s Mast er Car d or Vi sa credit card is dishonored for any reason, the Let’ s Ref uel Ameri ca car d
will be deactivated. The consumer will l ose Let’s Refuel America card privileges until t he consumer r e-enrolls
into the program with a valid Mast er Car d or Visa credit car d and a $25 reinstatement fee is paid by the
consumer.
9.) Cards are not transferable. If a consumer sells their vehicle before the program expiration date, t ur ns-in their
l ease bef or e t he pr ogr am expi r ati on dat e, or di sposes of t hei r vehi cl e f or any ot her r eason, the card will
continue to f uncti on f or t he ori gi nal consumer as desi gned.
+ 10.) Thi s program will only all o w one Let’ s Ref uel Ameri ca car d to be issued, and it must be issued in the name of
the individual desi gnat ed as t he pur chaser on the NVDR. If a Let’ s Refuel America card is lost or stolen, the
customer must call the cust omer support hotli ne ( 866-776-3077) and deactivate that card and have a
r eplacement card issued.
11.) If the NVDR is reported with more than one name, the consumer s must identify one (1) credit card that will be
used f or t he pr ogr a m that matches one of the names on the NVDR.
12.) Eli gi bl e consumer s must enroll for the Let’ s Refuel America card via the Let’s Refuel America web site
(htt p://r ef uel ameri ca. pri cel ock. co m) or by calli ng t he Let’ s Ref uel Ameri ca Enr oll ment Center (1-800-866-
4656) bef or e July 31, 2008.
13.) The Let’ s Ref uel Ameri ca program contains a $400 maximum fuel char ge per day wit hout pr e-aut hori zati on.
14.) If an eli gi bl e consumer exceedst he maxi mu m gallon allotment during a tank fill-up, the program will cover the
entire fill-up at $2. 99 per gall on, unl ess t he consumer has exceeded t he t ot al pr ogr am f uel allotment. The
Let’ s Ref uel Ameri ca card will not function for future fuel purchases until the next annual gallon allotment is
r epl eni shed (if applicable – I.e. if time still remai ns i n the program).
15.) Only fuel purchases in the United States are eligible for this program.
16.) Fuel pur chases at marinas are ineligible for this program.

Thi s program i s an alternati ve to traditi onal i ncenti ve pr ogr ams. Consumer s who select this offer will not be
eligible for the traditional consumer/l ease cash, subvent ed APR r at es, or Compass/Patriot retail cash
(39 C8 V). Deal er s must have each consumer sign an acknowledgement form indicating the programs that the
customer has selected.

(See Dealer Responsibility section below.)

Select compatible programs are identified in

the Program Compatibility section of these rules.

[TheNJKid]

Originally Posted by cassiusclay

Jman, I run a Chrysler Jeep store and let me tell you, this promo is gonna flop and is no good deal for the consumer.

how does it work? my initial question would be where can i fill my new car for 2.99? what places become select "chrysler stations". i personally wouldnt buy a chrysler to save what by these calculations is $125 a month. sounds good in theory to pitch this to consumers, but honestly IMO like 90% of all sales made car buying is an emotional purchase not a logical one. people arent thinking lets save $125 a month when they start decided on what car to buy

[Journeyman]

Kinda like futures contract on gas with the option to sell at anytime...I'm sure other car dealers will get in on this promo.

So basically they knock less off the sticker, right Cassius?

[cassiusclay]

Chrysler is reaching. Yesterday they chopped the retail rebates to cover the gas program (if you decide to take the program). Great warranty on the cars though.

[TheNJKid]

good info

[Journeyman]

Originally Posted by TheNJKid

how does it work? my initial question would be where can i fill my new car for 2.99? what places become select "chrysler stations". i personally would buy a chrysler to save what by these calculations is $125 a month. sounds good in theory to pitch this to consumers, but honestly IMO like 90% of all sales made car buying is an emotional purchase not a logical one. people arent thinking lets save $125 a month when they start decided on what car to buy

12k mile limit per yr is what I heard.

[Shortbus]

I'm sure there's a max dollar amount in addition to the max mileage.

If gas goes to 6.50 a gallon in a year and a half then that changes things...

[cassiusclay]

Trust me, you are not getting a "better deal" with this program. We sold a new Pacifica Tuesday night to a friend of mine, Wed. morning the program kicked in and the same Pacifica would have cost him $2,000 more. Truthfully, you can get a great deal on some of the vehicles.

[TheNJKid]

Originally Posted by Journeyman

12k mile limit per yr is what I heard.

if i go under 12k do i get a rebate on the amount(2.99) x mileage not used?

[Journeyman]

I think Cassius is pretty much explaining it, he is in the Chrysler know, it sounds like.

Sounds like a fancy promo that amounts to nothing in the end.

I ride my motorcycle AMAP to save on gas...I don't know how these SUV people can stand it anymore. I doubt I will even buy a new Waverunner, they suck gas pretty good, $30-40 a trip .....i'm seeing more and more of those motor scooters around too, 80 MPG.

[cassiusclay]

7.) If the Let’ s Ref uel Ameri ca card is used to purchase fuel at a price less than $2.99, the price will not be
adj ust ed, but t he gall on usage will still be applied against the maximum annual allotment.

[Doug]

Originally Posted by Shortbus

I'm sure there's a max dollar amount in addition to the max mileage.

If gas goes to 6.50 a gallon in a year and a half then that changes things...

what would be the point, then ?

[cassiusclay]

Tother thing is if you get rid of your car before the three years is up it is not transferable, the fine print on this thing will piss the consumers off, like $2.00 per transaction fee etc. At least they are trying to come up with something to stimulate sales but this will get some people upset. You do have a choice to not use the program which I would suggest.

[Doc Mercer]

Fellas: get real ... gasoline is going to go thru the Roof:

There are reports that the refineries are absorbing the cost of high oil prices right now (and some of them have hedging contracts in place to mitigate this high price), but within a few months they’ll be passing this burden on to the consumers. Oil prices at the pump could very well hit $5 and if this trend continues, it could hit $8/gallon.

Due of course to the outrageous oil costs, which are more than double what it was going for this time last year.

Oil recently hit an all-time high of nearly $120 a barrel, more than double its early 2007 price of about $50 a barrel. It closed Friday at $118.52.
The forecasts calling for a jump to between $7 and $10 a gallon are based on the view that the price of crude is on its way to $200 in two to three years.
Translating this price into dollars and cents at the gas pump, one of our forecasters, the chairman of Houston-based Dune Energy, Alan Gaines, sees gas rising to $7-$8 a gallon. The other, a commodities tracker at Weiss Research in Jupiter, Fla., Sean Brodrick, projects a range of $8 to $10 a gallon.

Of course, that’s what they’re paying now in Europe. Fortunately for many Europeans, the choice of easy public transportation is available as well, unlike much of our country
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AND WHY ARE AMERICANS GET ASS FUCKED??



" + title + "



.There's the neo-con plan: Privatize -- that is, sell off -- everything, "especially the oil" industry. That's a quote from the 101-page document which I learned was written by the neo-cons. That didn't happen -- because a Jim Baker team -- he's the lawyer for both Exxon and Saudi Arabia -- secretly wrote a 323-page plan that called for CONTROLLING the oil flow, not owning it. The purpose was to LIMIT the supply of oil from Iraq and keep prices high. This would, "enhance [Iraq's] relationship with OPEC" -- the oil cartel. That's a quote from the document you're not supposed to see.


So here it is: the invasion was about LIMITING the flow of oil from Iraq, keeping prices high, not grabbing the oil to bring prices down for your SUV. The secret Baker plan is now the law in Iraq and prices are over $50 a barrel. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

[cassiusclay]

journeyman, oh no, this is gonna turn into one of those threads.

[Journeyman]

Originally Posted by cassiusclay

journeyman, oh no, this is gonna turn into one of those threads.

political?

[Jimmy Hoffa]

I wouldn't buy a Chrysler with your money!

[Jeff Jones]

I think it's a good deal.

Calculating the projected price of gasoline in two years, the future value of money, and the godawful Chrysler product, I think the third-year value of the gas coupon could far outweigh the value of the car.

[pioneer]

Originally Posted by Jeff Jones

I think it's a good deal.

Calculating the projected price of gasoline in two years, the future value of money, and the godawful Chrysler product, I think the third-year value of the gas coupon could far outweigh the value of the car.

I agree...except for the "godawful" Chrysler product part...I own a Jeep now and have owned a Dodge minivan in the past and I am/was very happy with both.

[cassiusclay]

I will say this, certain Chrysler Jeep products are outstanding, others are not. The vehicles come with a fantastic warranty, 3yrs bumper to bumper coverage and an unlimited time/miles transmission warranty. The minivans, wranglers, new liberty and grand cherokee are all nice vehicles and well priced in the market place. Chrysler's stock has done well for me over the last 17 years and the product has been steadily improving. The new corporate philosophy is to stop making duplicate models in all it's product lines which will eliminate cross shopping between Chrysler's own dealers. Also, you will see a serious amount of dealership closures in the next 12 months, to many dealers and not enough customers. Underachieving dealers will be closed. Pick the right vehicle and you will get a great car at a great price, pick the wrong one and I will be the first to welcome you to the service department.

[Doc Mercer]

I think tis great to see "certain" posters take it up the ass ....

Shit just happens when ya criminals in charge whose game plan invading
Iraq was to fuck Americans at the pump

[5teamparlay]

GAS currently at 2.09 here in Tampa.

[jakethompson]

1.89 in northern Idaho. About 2.25 in Boise.

[Jeff Jones]

At this point, you might want to worry about where you will get Chrysler parts to repair your car a year from now than the price of gas.