Time for Oddsmaker/BetOnUSA to pay the customer they are stiffing!

[dirty]

Originally Posted by blackbox

THANK YOU SHRINK-THANK YOU GENERAL-THANK YOU ODDSMAKER-THEY PAID-AND I HAVE THESE PEOPLE TO THANK FOR THEIR HELP-I MYSELF E-MAILED TODAY-ODDSMAKER THAT IS,AND WAS TOLD BY CUSTOMER SUPPORT THAT I WAS STILL IN LINE-2 HRS. LATER-MAIL COMES,AND A CHECK FOR 1578.19 ARRIVES-AS PROMISED BY THE GENERAL,THE SHRINK,AND MR.ROSS ON FRIDAY-THANKS-YOU KNOW HOW I AM GOING TO CELEBRATE-SHARING-GOING TO TAKE ME 83 YEAR OLD MOTHER TO INDIAN CASINO TO PLAY HER FAVORITE SLOTS-THEN TO LET TWO NEIGHBOR GIRLS WHOSE PARENTS ARE LOSING HOME TO FORECLOSYURE TO BUY "NEW CLOTHES" NOT GOODWILL THIS TIME "NEW CLOTHES. THATS AWESOME ODDSMAKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good Stuff

[jackpot]

good to hear blackbox. I'm still hoping I can get mine resolved but glad to hear you got your situation taken care of. It's always positive.

[blackbox]

JACKPOT CLASS OF YOU TO CONGRADULATE ME-I WAS VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE THE GENERAL,AND THE SHRINK ON MY SIDE- I DO NOT FORGET GOOD PEOPLE-HOW DOES IT GO (STICK TO THOSE -WHO STUCK TO BY YOU.--BEST OF LUCK-I AM AT A LOSS FOR WORDS-NOT USED TO HAVING PEOPLE CONGRADULATE ME,AND HELPING ME-WE ALL LEARN ABOUT LEADING A RESPONSIBLE LIFE -AND THEN BOOM - WE NEED TO SEE A DOCTOR,DENTIST,OR EOG TO SOLVE OUR OWN ISSUES. IT IS A LIFE OF CHOICES-DECISIONS-AND THE CONSEQUENSES -MEANS ALOT TO HEAR YOU ARE HAPPY FOR ME. I AM IN YOUR CORNER -ROOTING FOR YOU.

[JC]

Shrink or Jackpot,

What's the latest here?

[THE SHRINK]

Jackpot will be paid...

Hopefully, in full...

The parties are still talking...

[NickPappagiorgio]

Hopefully in full?

It sure doesnt sound like he did anything wrong and noone is disputing the amount. Why wouldnt he be paid in full? Jackpot is owed money, there shouldnt be any negotiations here at all. Not only that, but jackpot sounds like an average guy who won a jackpot. He shouldnt have to wait this long to be paid.

While you made a nice post regarding the new ownership, etc etc and they had a nice party for posters that play there, it sure sounds like there is some funny business going on with Oddsmaker. After seeing this, I would never trust them with my money.

[Ball Rash]

Hopefully paid in full?????

you have GOT to be kidding me

[JC]

What's to talk about?

Is Jackpot not owed the money?

Is Oddsmaker broke?

Why would they not pay him in full? Just because they can get away with it?

If there is a dispute about this, it is between Jazzette and Oddsmaker. There's nothing to talk about with Jackpot. Oddsmaker had his balance in their system.

Pay the man in full or get the hell off of this site. It's pretty simple.

[JC]

Jackpot,

Don't take a penny less. These crooks will pay you. Not because they are honorable, but because they will lose a lot more than $85,000 in business if they don't.

You took a gamble and you won. It's your money.

Oddsmaker, pay the man his money or there's a lot more we can share about the people behind your operation.

[Almost Allright]

Originally Posted by JC

Jackpot,

Oddsmaker, pay the man his money or there's a lot more we can share about the people behind your operation.

you know everyone here who respects you is going to want to know regardless. That is a hint to all of us there are things we should know.

[JC]

Jackpot,

Have you been paid yet?

JC

[Walther Whalker]

jc, you know that Cascade is stiffing for over $1 million for months and you are hung up on this sportsbook, u have something personal against oddsmaker it seems

[JC]

I think it's what Cascade is doing is wrong. They too should pay their debts.

They are not advertising at the top of this site.

[jackpot]

Originally Posted by JC

Jackpot,

Have you been paid yet?

JC

Presently at this time no. I have spoken with someone.

[jackpot]

I want to thank Shrink, General and everyone here. Also want to thank oddsmaker for their time and putting this to rest.

[wrigley]

Originally Posted by jackpot

I want to thank Shrink, General and everyone here. Also want to thank oddsmaker for their time and putting this to rest.

So I take it you got paid in full??

[jackpot]

Originally Posted by wrigley

So I take it you got paid in full??

I cannot go into detail but it was worked out and I am more than pleased with the outcome. It should have never got this far but it did and in the end everything worked out. I just want to thank everyone involved including oddsmaker/betonusa.

[BigDaddy]

glad you got paid some of your money but anyone with half a brain knows it wasnt in full

[wrigley]

Originally Posted by jackpot

I cannot go into detail but it was worked out and I am more than pleased with the outcome. It should have never got this far but it did and in the end everything worked out. I just want to thank everyone involved including oddsmaker/betonusa.

As long as your happy with the outcome is what matters

Congrats!

[Timetopay]

I would guess payments over time. Hopefully those payments equal the total

[JC]

Originally Posted by jackpot

I cannot go into detail but it was worked out and I am more than pleased with the outcome. It should have never got this far but it did and in the end everything worked out. I just want to thank everyone involved including oddsmaker/betonusa.

I'll take that as a no. It's a yes/no question. Sounds like it's not yes, so it's no.

It seems like Oddsmaker is still a stiff.

Pay the man in full Oddsmaker!

What's the problem Oddsmaker? Are you too busy running deceptive and phony $5 million contests? Who won the $1 million for the first four weeks?

[pats3peat]

Hes getting a payment plan...
either way congratulations youre getting the money..

I'd be happy as hell winning $2,000.

[blackbox]

JACKPOT-AS LONG AS YOU ARE SATISFIED- ONLY YOU-AND THOSE INVOLVED KNOW THE DETAILS-CONGRADULATIONS TO YOU ! NICE WORK GENERAL-SHRINK-AND ODDSMAKER - THANK YOU ON YOUR PAYMENT TO ME- AGAIN -MADE A FEW PEOPLE SMILE AROUND MY AREA TODAY! LET US ALL HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND,WITH BASEBALL PLAYOFFS-COLLEGE,AND NFL WEEKEND---- ONE LAST QUESTION THOUGH- AND I DO NOT WISH TO PUT THE KISS OF DEATH ON CAL BEARS--BUT WORD AROUND BERKLEY IS IF CAL AND OHIO ST. (SHOULD WIN OUT) OHIO ST.-WOULD MEET LSU -PROVIDING LSU DOES THE SAME ! SAY IT AINT SO-NOT AFTER WHAT HAPPENED TWO YEARS AGO!!!

[Walther Whalker]

so neither the poster nor oddsmaker nor EOG are willing to tell the truth regarding whether the account balance was paid....okay

Great place to get info about sportsbooks....NOT

Oddsmaker, pay the man his money or there's a lot more we can share about the people behind your operation.

It seems like Oddsmaker is still a stiff.

Oddsmaker stiffed like you said...so spill the beans...what else do we need to know about Oddsmaker in addition to the fact that it is a stiffbook?

Doesn't sound like EOG is going to fill in the posters...

[dirty]

I don't understand how it is yours JC's, or anyone's business what the agreement was in Private between the poster and the book. The poster Came to EOG and we acted on his behalf and the poster was happy. That is all that should matter.... I don't know when this holier than though attitude that the posters are ENTITLED to know about Private agreements between 2 parties. It is asinine and absurd.

[Smoke]

I've kept quiet about the stiffjob I have personally experienced with BetonUSA/Oddsmaker a while ago in hopes of an amicable resolution. But now they're giving the General the run-around saying they never heard of me (not in database). Well, I have account#'s and e-mail replies from them that say otherwise.
Like I said, I waited a long time in hopes of a peaceful resolution, but it appears they will only payout to those who go public, so here I am. This is the only time I have ever had trouble getting paid from a book.

[BigDaddy]

Originally Posted by dirty

I don't understand how it is yours JC's, or anyone's business what the agreement was in Private between the poster and the book. The poster Came to EOG and we acted on his behalf and the poster was happy. That is all that should matter.... I don't know when this holier than though attitude that the posters are ENTITLED to know about Private agreements between 2 parties. It is asinine and absurd.

winning a 100,000 and settling for less is asinine and absurd but continue to support a stiff book

most people arent clueless if he was paid in full why not say it gives good publicity to the book.

thats all i have to say about this we have different opinions

[wrigley]

Originally Posted by BigDaddy

winning a 100,000 and settling for less is asinine and absurd but continue to support a stiff book

most people arent clueless if he was paid in full why not say it gives good publicity to the book.

thats all i have to say about this we have different opinions

Agree that if the player is happy with the settlement then this is done deal and case closed.

However most businesses would want good publicity coming from this matter that took forever to get resolved and you think they would want all future customers to know that they pay players in full when they win.

Someone should tell oddsmaker/Betus their not in the mystery novel business and letting future customers guess if they will be paid in full if they were to win big is a bad business plan.

[dirty]

I am not taking the books side. I Hope the player was paid in full. I don't know what the agreement was. Just because it was not posted for Everyone to see does not mean he is not getting paid in full. PLEASE SHOW ME WHERE THAT WAS EVER STATED OR AGREED TO!!!! Bottom line is the agreement was between the book and poster and that is the only people that need to know about it. If the Poster was not happy then we would know it. If they back out of the agreement then we will know it.

Until you have proof of him not getting paid in full, saying otherwise if foolish and not fair to anyone involved.

[JC]

It is our business and it is important that the customer is paid in full, not just that he is "happy."

Why?

Because when the Shrink changed the business model here he declared that we the posters are the watchdogs and that we the posters should warn people about books who are the stiffs, whether they are advertising here or not. Posters need to know what books steal from players when given an opportunity.

There are several reasons for me to believe the customer was not paid in full. I have been around this BS as long as anyone here and from what I am reading he was not paid in full, whether in one lump sum or with a payment plan. The player has capitulated and has accepted less, it's crystal clear. This is not a court of law, we don't need an eyewitness or proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

About the player being "Happy,"

The book had him over a barrel. He took what he could get. Oddsmaker is wrong here. The player won the money and is owed. Oddsmaker is stiffing him for one reason, because they can. They think they can pay him 50 to 60 cents on the dollar and clean up their well deserved D- image. They can't. We are watching.

Next time a player is owed a large sum of money, and feels lucky to get most of it out of some dump, do we give that book a pass and say well the player was happy? No. Books need to pay in full, not just to player satisfaction.

That's all that happened here. It was a large jackpot. The player is taking what he can get. Obviously he fears if he holds out for the full amount he will get nothing.

Is Oddsmaker the type of place EOG wants to have up top?

Oddsmaker/BetOnUSA, I'm happy to present you with the BetOnSports Award for Partial Payment When You Have the Player Over a Barrel. Congratulations!

Oddsmaker, pay the man in full you stiffs!

[The Judge]

I am not going to state an opinion on whether or not the player was paid in full but it seems clear that there is an agreement between the book, the player and maybe even EOG to put an end to the bad publicity this has generated. If the player was indeed paid in full, it would seem that everyone involved would like to see that stated so there are no questions regarding the book's actions. The player made this a public issue by posting his story so it is not unreasonable that other posters would want to know the outcome.

Plain and simple, for those not involved, it is a credibility issue and EOG members have a right to know what they can expect from an advertiser if they choose to play with this book and are fortunate enough to hit a big score. Without the benefit of the full story, potential customers on this site will feel uneasy about this shop. While EOG is to be commended for helping to resolve the player's issue, why was their intervention even necessary?

[Ball Rash]

sweat the payout not the jackpot

[wrigley]

Originally Posted by Ball Rash

sweat the payout not the jackpot

Betus is having a Hockey contest I think it pays *$1000 to the year end winner they need to add a asteriak after it.

* $1000 is said to be winners payout however Betus has right to
negotiate with winner to pay less

[JC]

Originally Posted by wrigley

* $1000 is said to be winners payout however Betus has right to
negotiate with winner to pay less

Exactly!

This player is being stiffed by Oddsmaker, because they can stiff him.

[confiscatedcash]

jc,

it is getting scary offshore.jc said it best.

look what is going on now. this is unbelievable!


10.11.2007 (11:10 PM CST)
Sportsbook.com (SBR rating D+) confiscates winnings made from correlated parlay bets dating back over one month. SBR is currently investigating complaints submitted by four players who were informed via email that thousands would be deducted from their balances because winnings derived from parlays where the legs of the parlay are "linked." Wagering on Over the total score and the Underdog spread would be an example of a correlated 2-team parlay. Some sportsbooks use their software to prohibit these types of wagers. SBR is also investigating a separate claim made by a player who states that over $80,000 was confiscated because he utlized different sportsbook websites within the Sportsbook.com family (Jazette ltd Group) of sportsbooks. This has been allowed and often encouraged by the different brands in the past. SBR will list updates for all Sportsbook.com complaints ranging from instances of incorrectly graded wagers to missing balances from sportsbook brands that defected from the Sportsbook.com operation to other white label services.