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JC · 10-04-07, 12:30 AM

There's a thread on SBR that has been going on since early July. It seems a customer of BetOnUSA, which has been acquired by Oddsmaker, is owed about $85,000. The BetOnUSA/Oddsmaker clerk acknowledged the balance in a chat session so it is in their system.

BetOnUSA's position is that the liability remains with BetOnUSA's previous owner, the Jazzette Group, which is also an advertiser on EOG.

Unless they can prove otherwise, BetOnUSA/Oddsmaker owes this money to the player. They purchased BetOnUsa, they acknowledged the balance in their system, and they have failed to produce any proof that this debt belongs to Jazzette.

When a customer has a balance at a book, it is the book that is responsible for it regardless of who owns the book.

If BetOnUSA/Oddsmaker really believes they do not owe this and this, it is their duty to put together a three way phone call with themselves, whoever they purchased BetOnUSA from at Jazzette, and the Shrink. This should have been resolved in a matter of days, not months.

Until BetOnUSA/Oddsmaker pays this man, they are a stiff book and should be avoided by all players. Three months is more than enough time to figure out who owes the man. It's in your system, you acquired BetOnUSA. Pay the man!

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...-betonusa.html

From the chat: (post #106)
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jackpot: ...................... Is my balance 85053.82? I been waiting almost 2 weeks - is there any time frame ?

Anne: yes it is the balance...

August West · 10-04-07, 12:55 AM

Who in the hell would ever have a balance that high at betonusa? That's a bigger gamble then betting a 10 game parlay with your mortgage money.

JC · 10-04-07, 12:59 AM

The guy won a jackpot over $100,000. He's not a big player. He's entitled to his money.

August West · 10-04-07, 01:27 AM

Ah, I see. I agree with you 100% then.

JC · 10-04-07, 03:08 PM

A little Bump for the day shift.

Has Oddsmaker/BetOnUSA paid this man yet?

BigDaddy · 10-04-07, 03:16 PM

How much was spent on the party for EOG ? giving away $1500 to every player that can hit 4 games in a row but cant pay a winning player

wrigley · 10-04-07, 03:20 PM

Have these players tried contacting Shrink or General Shrink just got Dante paid the other day

BigDaddy · 10-04-07, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrigley

Have these players tried contacting Shrink or General Shrink just got Dante paid the other day

thread is at SBR since july guy still owed 80,000

Walther Whalker · 10-04-07, 03:24 PM

I looked at that oddsmaker thread on SBR (linked to above) and sounds like the player has been paid around 50%, really it is tough to calculate the amount of the stiffmoney based on what has been posted to date

BigDaddy · 10-04-07, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walther Whalker

I looked at that oddsmaker thread on SBR (linked to above) and sounds like the player has been paid around 50%, really it is tough to calculate the amount of the stiffmoney based on what has been posted to date

not even close to 50%

JC · 10-04-07, 03:28 PM

The percentage doesn't matter. He is presently owed $85,000.

Shrink, what are they telling you?

blackbox · 10-04-07, 08:01 PM

ODDSMAKER OBVIOUSLY HAS UNRESOLVED ISSUES WITH STAFFING-OR IS A WELCH-THEY SHOULD REVISE THEIR TERMS AND CONDITIONS PAGE TO SAY WE PAY WHO WE PLEASE,AND WHEN WE PLEASE,AND WHO YOU ARE,OR WHO YOU KNOW-SHOULD NOT BE ALLOW NEW CUSTOMERS UNTIL ALL DEDTS ARE SETTLED. WHY IN TARNATION WOULD ANY FOOL DEAL WITH THIS OUTFIT!!!!!

blackbox · 10-05-07, 02:04 PM

I WISH TO TAKE THE TIME TO THANK THE GENERAL FOR HIS INTERVENTION WITH ODDSMAKER,ON MY BEHALF.I DISLIKE ASKING FAVORS OF OTHERS,I RECIEVED E-MAIL THIS MORNING FROM JOHN ROSS-NEXT WEEK I'LL BE PAID,HOPEFULLY.IF NOT-THAT IS THAT-AT LEAST I MET A FEW GOOD PEOPLE ON THIS SITE. GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF YOU. BLACKBOX-

auditor · 10-05-07, 02:13 PM

BetonUsa still owes me from Aug.

They just give me the runaround.

TONY MONTANA · 10-05-07, 02:17 PM

Well good! Glad it is resolved. John Ross and the ODDSMAKER folks seem like a good bunce.

Way to go GENERAL and congrats on the BIG win BLACKBOX!

JC · 10-05-07, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TONY MONTANA

Well good! Glad it is resolved. John Ross and the ODDSMAKER folks seem like a good bunce.

Way to go GENERAL and congrats on the BIG win BLACKBOX!

Can you give that good bunch a call and see if they can pay the $85,000 they are presently stiffing?

Thanks

The General · 10-05-07, 02:37 PM

Glad to help Blackbox.

Different player Tony, but Thanks.

TONY MONTANA · 10-05-07, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The General

Glad to help Blackbox.

Different player Tony, but Thanks.

sorry!! good job anyway general!!

TONY MONTANA · 10-05-07, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JC

Can you give that good bunch a call and see if they can pay the $85,000 they are presently stiffing?

Thanks

JC it's not really my field, but if you need some electrical work done give me a call.

I'll hook you up!!

THE SHRINK · 10-05-07, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TONY MONTANA

JC it's not really my field, but if you need some electrical work done give me a call.

I'll hook you up!!

BigDaddy · 10-05-07, 03:10 PM

guy gets lucky hits a 100,000 progressive and gets laughed at as he is owed still 85,000

THE SHRINK · 10-05-07, 03:14 PM

Maybe I am missing something bus aside from me laughing at Tony Montana's joke at JC, who here is laughing at the gambler, BigDaddy?

I just finished assisting Dante and company get paid.

I am also handling this issue as well...

Your point?

Thanks,
Ken

BigDaddy · 10-05-07, 03:18 PM

i guess i find the joke distasteful considering the situation but thats just my opinion

jackpot · 10-05-07, 03:35 PM

I'm said player. Long story short.

Bored at home - haven't used my account in years - put 50 bucks in to play cards. (I had no idea about ratings never had problem in past etc)

oops no card room anymore - played some horseracing. then went into casino.

Hit progressive jackpot for 115,000 .

Sent in signed and notarized affidavit, license, and pic. This was approved.

Payouts started coming slowly - took about 4-5 weeks for the first one. Then I was getting processed emails almost daily.

I could only withdrawal 2 a day at 2500 a pop.
I put in 46 total requests = 115000

I received 12 total for 30,000.

Site went down for it "new release".

My account was set to inactive when the platform came back up.

I've been getting the run around for 5 weeks now. 85,053 and some change currently in my account which is still "in verification" status.

Thanks for any help and support you guys give/get

jackpot · 10-05-07, 04:21 PM

small update - just had 2 chat sessions ended without a response - not sure if it is a system hiccup or I was put on ignore :lol:

wrigley · 10-05-07, 04:51 PM

Nice hit jackpot hope you get paid in full

pats3peat · 10-05-07, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackpot

small update - just had 2 chat sessions ended without a response - not sure if it is a system hiccup or I was put on ignore :lol:

probably just a hiccup...
keep trying those chat sessions and keep us updated

TONY MONTANA · 10-05-07, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddy

i guess i find the joke distasteful considering the situation but thats just my opinion

BigDaddy I made a mistake in thinking Blackbox was Jackpot earlier and said I was happy that General got him his money.

My mistake. I don't have a problem admitting a mistake.

And I wasn't joking! It's not my fileld!! But everyone know that!

Jackpot I hope they get you straight!! MAY'N!!

dirty · 10-05-07, 09:55 PM

Guess JC didn't need any electrical work Huh Tony?

Ball Rash · 10-05-07, 09:57 PM

of course they're good people

they osted a party for eog posters

TONY MONTANA · 10-05-07, 09:58 PM

YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN YOUR POWER IS GOING TO GO OUT!!

JC · 10-05-07, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirty

Guess JC didn't need any electrical work Huh Tony?

Its funny. I actually do need some electrical work, was calling the electrician today. He was already over once this week. I have gremlins.

dirty · 10-05-07, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JC

Its funny. I actually do need some electrical work, was calling the electrician today. He was already over once this week. I have gremlins.

Now that is some funny Chit

TONY MONTANA · 10-05-07, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JC

Its funny. I actually do need some electrical work, was calling the electrician today. He was already over once this week. I have gremlins.

THEIR HARD TO GET RID OF!!

THE SHRINK · 10-05-07, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackbox

I WISH TO TAKE THE TIME TO THANK THE GENERAL FOR HIS INTERVENTION WITH ODDSMAKER,ON MY BEHALF.I DISLIKE ASKING FAVORS OF OTHERS,I RECIEVED E-MAIL THIS MORNING FROM JOHN ROSS-NEXT WEEK I'LL BE PAID,HOPEFULLY.IF NOT-THAT IS THAT-AT LEAST I MET A FEW GOOD PEOPLE ON THIS SITE. GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF YOU. BLACKBOX-

I am on it as well, for what it's worth...

BigDaddy,

I know you sometimes can't see it from our side but with all the stress, I welcome humor as a relief...

But looking at it from your side, I can understand why you may not find some of the things to be funny that I do...

The one constant i have always admired about you is being a straight shooter...

Thanks,

Ken

10-04-07, 12:55 AM	#2
August West Eli is still a bitch Join Date: Aug 22, 2005 Location: The Adirondacks Posts: 2,480	Re: Time for Oddsmaker/BetOnUSA to pay the customer they are stiffing! Who in the hell would ever have a balance that high at betonusa? That's a bigger gamble then betting a 10 game parlay with your mortgage money.

10-04-07, 12:59 AM	#3
JC EOG Veteran Join Date: Aug 19, 2005 Posts: 1,236	Re: Time for Oddsmaker/BetOnUSA to pay the customer they are stiffing! The guy won a jackpot over $100,000. He's not a big player. He's entitled to his money.

10-04-07, 01:27 AM	#4
August West Eli is still a bitch Join Date: Aug 22, 2005 Location: The Adirondacks Posts: 2,480	Re: Time for Oddsmaker/BetOnUSA to pay the customer they are stiffing! Ah, I see. I agree with you 100% then.

10-04-07, 03:08 PM	#5
JC EOG Veteran Join Date: Aug 19, 2005 Posts: 1,236	Re: Time for Oddsmaker/BetOnUSA to pay the customer they are stiffing! A little Bump for the day shift. Has Oddsmaker/BetOnUSA paid this man yet?

10-04-07, 03:16 PM	#6
BigDaddy I'm on PO69's payroll just to get Timetopay worked up Join Date: Nov 04, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 13,219	Re: Time for Oddsmaker/BetOnUSA to pay the customer they are stiffing! How much was spent on the party for EOG ? giving away $1500 to every player that can hit 4 games in a row but cant pay a winning player

10-04-07, 12:30 AM	#1
JC EOG Veteran Join Date: Aug 19, 2005 Posts: 1,236	Time for Oddsmaker/BetOnUSA to pay the customer they are stiffing! There's a thread on SBR that has been going on since early July. It seems a customer of BetOnUSA, which has been acquired by Oddsmaker, is owed about $85,000. The BetOnUSA/Oddsmaker clerk acknowledged the balance in a chat session so it is in their system. BetOnUSA's position is that the liability remains with BetOnUSA's previous owner, the Jazzette Group, which is also an advertiser on EOG. Unless they can prove otherwise, BetOnUSA/Oddsmaker owes this money to the player. They purchased BetOnUsa, they acknowledged the balance in their system, and they have failed to produce any proof that this debt belongs to Jazzette. When a customer has a balance at a book, it is the book that is responsible for it regardless of who owns the book. If BetOnUSA/Oddsmaker really believes they do not owe this and this, it is their duty to put together a three way phone call with themselves, whoever they purchased BetOnUSA from at Jazzette, and the Shrink. This should have been resolved in a matter of days, not months. Until BetOnUSA/Oddsmaker pays this man, they are a stiff book and should be avoided by all players. Three months is more than enough time to figure out who owes the man. It's in your system, you acquired BetOnUSA. Pay the man! http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...-betonusa.html From the chat: (post #106) . jackpot: ...................... Is my balance 85053.82? I been waiting almost 2 weeks - is there any time frame ? Anne: yes it is the balance...

10-04-07, 03:20 PM	#7
wrigley Business has just picked up Join Date: Aug 20, 2005 Posts: 10,242	Re: Time for Oddsmaker/BetOnUSA to pay the customer they are stiffing! Have these players tried contacting Shrink or General Shrink just got Dante paid the other day

10-04-07, 03:24 PM	#9
Walther Whalker EOG Addicted Join Date: Aug 25, 2007 Posts: 583	Re: Time for Oddsmaker/BetOnUSA to pay the customer they are stiffing! I looked at that oddsmaker thread on SBR (linked to above) and sounds like the player has been paid around 50%, really it is tough to calculate the amount of the stiffmoney based on what has been posted to date

10-04-07, 03:28 PM	#11
JC EOG Veteran Join Date: Aug 19, 2005 Posts: 1,236	Re: Time for Oddsmaker/BetOnUSA to pay the customer they are stiffing! The percentage doesn't matter. He is presently owed $85,000. Shrink, what are they telling you?

10-04-07, 08:01 PM	#12
blackbox sugar sugar Join Date: Oct 03, 2007 Posts: 906	Re: Time for Oddsmaker/BetOnUSA to pay the customer they are stiffing! ODDSMAKER OBVIOUSLY HAS UNRESOLVED ISSUES WITH STAFFING-OR IS A WELCH-THEY SHOULD REVISE THEIR TERMS AND CONDITIONS PAGE TO SAY WE PAY WHO WE PLEASE,AND WHEN WE PLEASE,AND WHO YOU ARE,OR WHO YOU KNOW-SHOULD NOT BE ALLOW NEW CUSTOMERS UNTIL ALL DEDTS ARE SETTLED. WHY IN TARNATION WOULD ANY FOOL DEAL WITH THIS OUTFIT!!!!!

10-05-07, 02:04 PM	#13
blackbox sugar sugar Join Date: Oct 03, 2007 Posts: 906	Re: Time for Oddsmaker/BetOnUSA to pay the customer they are stiffing! I WISH TO TAKE THE TIME TO THANK THE GENERAL FOR HIS INTERVENTION WITH ODDSMAKER,ON MY BEHALF.I DISLIKE ASKING FAVORS OF OTHERS,I RECIEVED E-MAIL THIS MORNING FROM JOHN ROSS-NEXT WEEK I'LL BE PAID,HOPEFULLY.IF NOT-THAT IS THAT-AT LEAST I MET A FEW GOOD PEOPLE ON THIS SITE. GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF YOU. BLACKBOX-

10-05-07, 02:13 PM	#14
auditor EOG Senior Member Join Date: Oct 06, 2006 Posts: 353	Re: Time for Oddsmaker/BetOnUSA to pay the customer they are stiffing! BetonUsa still owes me from Aug. They just give me the runaround.

10-05-07, 02:17 PM	#15
TONY MONTANA Thanks Dad Join Date: Aug 29, 2005 Posts: 20,034	Re: Time for Oddsmaker/BetOnUSA to pay the customer they are stiffing! Well good! Glad it is resolved. John Ross and the ODDSMAKER folks seem like a good bunce. Way to go GENERAL and congrats on the BIG win BLACKBOX!

10-05-07, 02:37 PM	#17
The General Another Day, Another Dollar Join Date: Jul 19, 2005 Location: A real precarious world..... Posts: 53,127	Re: Time for Oddsmaker/BetOnUSA to pay the customer they are stiffing! Glad to help Blackbox. Different player Tony, but Thanks.

10-05-07, 03:10 PM	#21
BigDaddy I'm on PO69's payroll just to get Timetopay worked up Join Date: Nov 04, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 13,219	Re: Time for Oddsmaker/BetOnUSA to pay the customer they are stiffing! guy gets lucky hits a 100,000 progressive and gets laughed at as he is owed still 85,000

10-05-07, 03:14 PM	#22
THE SHRINK EOG FOUNDER Join Date: Jul 19, 2005 Location: Chesapeake, Virginia Posts: 28,967	Re: Time for Oddsmaker/BetOnUSA to pay the customer they are stiffing! Maybe I am missing something bus aside from me laughing at Tony Montana's joke at JC, who here is laughing at the gambler, BigDaddy? I just finished assisting Dante and company get paid. I am also handling this issue as well... Your point? Thanks, Ken

10-05-07, 03:18 PM	#23
BigDaddy I'm on PO69's payroll just to get Timetopay worked up Join Date: Nov 04, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 13,219	Re: Time for Oddsmaker/BetOnUSA to pay the customer they are stiffing! i guess i find the joke distasteful considering the situation but thats just my opinion

10-05-07, 03:35 PM	#24
jackpot EOG Member Join Date: Oct 05, 2007 Posts: 12	Re: Time for Oddsmaker/BetOnUSA to pay the customer they are stiffing! I'm said player. Long story short. Bored at home - haven't used my account in years - put 50 bucks in to play cards. (I had no idea about ratings never had problem in past etc) oops no card room anymore - played some horseracing. then went into casino. Hit progressive jackpot for 115,000 . Sent in signed and notarized affidavit, license, and pic. This was approved. Payouts started coming slowly - took about 4-5 weeks for the first one. Then I was getting processed emails almost daily. I could only withdrawal 2 a day at 2500 a pop. I put in 46 total requests = 115000 I received 12 total for 30,000. Site went down for it "new release". My account was set to inactive when the platform came back up. I've been getting the run around for 5 weeks now. 85,053 and some change currently in my account which is still "in verification" status. Thanks for any help and support you guys give/get

10-05-07, 04:21 PM	#25
jackpot EOG Member Join Date: Oct 05, 2007 Posts: 12	Re: Time for Oddsmaker/BetOnUSA to pay the customer they are stiffing! small update - just had 2 chat sessions ended without a response - not sure if it is a system hiccup or I was put on ignore :lol:

10-05-07, 04:51 PM	#26
wrigley Business has just picked up Join Date: Aug 20, 2005 Posts: 10,242	Re: Time for Oddsmaker/BetOnUSA to pay the customer they are stiffing! Nice hit jackpot hope you get paid in full

10-05-07, 09:55 PM	#29
dirty EOG Consigliere' Join Date: Aug 26, 2005 Location: Jawja Posts: 62,810	Re: Time for Oddsmaker/BetOnUSA to pay the customer they are stiffing! Guess JC didn't need any electrical work Huh Tony?

10-05-07, 09:57 PM	#30
Ball Rash waiting on details of my agenda Join Date: Nov 16, 2006 Posts: 2,457	Re: Time for Oddsmaker/BetOnUSA to pay the customer they are stiffing! of course they're good people they osted a party for eog posters

10-05-07, 09:58 PM	#31
TONY MONTANA Thanks Dad Join Date: Aug 29, 2005 Posts: 20,034	Re: Time for Oddsmaker/BetOnUSA to pay the customer they are stiffing! YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN YOUR POWER IS GOING TO GO OUT!!

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