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OSUCOWBOYS · 05-09-08, 12:48 PM

ATSDatabase in the MLB forum.

His trends are simply en fuego. (32-8 the last 4 days)

Down to earth guy. No chest thumping, no agenda. Just posts and leaves.

Look him up boys. He makes Journeyman look like me!! (J/K J-man)

Thanks Ron for sharing your "stuff" with us.

OSUCOWBOYS · 05-09-08, 02:02 PM

Bump

You are missing out. I'm telling ya.

royalfan · 05-09-08, 03:02 PM

Just be careful. There needs to be a reason why the trend is good and those look to possibly be unsubstantiated trends to me. You can backlog every angle there is and random number theory tells you that some are going to have great records over the short run, but doesn't mean anything unless there is a reason the trend keeps working. Thanks for the heads up OSU, but definately not my method of handicapping.

OSUCOWBOYS · 05-09-08, 03:06 PM

80% is an anomaly. Why not ride it while it is hot? I know have to do something to offset your best friend while he is a little cold. (OK, not a little, a lot)

He will turn it around and Ron will cool off. That is the way it goes.

raycabino · 05-09-08, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OSUCOWBOYS

80% is an anomaly. Why not ride it while it is hot? I know have to do something to offset your best friend while he is a little cold. (OK, not a little, a lot)

He will turn it around and Ron will cool off. That is the way it goes.

Because the trends mean nothing going forward if there is no logic to their recent performance. Though Royalfan comes off the wrong way quite often, this is a very valid point he is making here. IMHO that is the type of thinking that leads to success in this industry.

OSUCOWBOYS · 05-10-08, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by raycabino

Because the trends mean nothing going forward if there is no logic to their recent performance. Though Royalfan comes off the wrong way quite often, this is a very valid point he is making here. IMHO that is the type of thinking that leads to success in this industry.

7-0 today. 39-8 in the last 5 days.

Obviously Ron has no idea what he is doing.

It is surprising there is NO logic in something that is 39-8 in the last 5 days, yet there is logic in what you do Ray?

These results will NOT continue. They cant. However there has to be some merit to them. When is the last time you went 39-8? Seriously.

royalfan · 05-10-08, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by OSUCOWBOYS

7-0 today. 39-8 in the last 5 days.

Obviously Ron has no idea what he is doing.

It is surprising there is NO logic in something that is 39-8 in the last 5 days, yet there is logic in what you do Ray?

These results will NOT continue. They cant. However there has to be some merit to them. When is the last time you went 39-8? Seriously.

It is surprising. Just because there isn't necessarily any logic doesn't mean it can't win anyway over the short term.

royalfan · 05-10-08, 05:21 AM

And don't put words in my mouth please. That pisses me off when people make shit up. Just because I said that isn't my method following trends that may or may not have any logic doesn't mean I told anyone else not to. Give some logic on the plays? That is what matters. You can do that then the play is worth it. If there isn't any then it isn't. Simple as that.

royalfan · 05-10-08, 05:25 AM

And furthermore, the Royals got their asses kicked unfortunately but you are counting it as a big chalk winner? Fuck, all trends work if you do that. The thing about some of these trends is it isn't even the same players as previous year. It is like waving a magic wand and praying. Just proceed with caution is all I am saying. No logic behind most of them, but if you want to be a fucking prick for no reason, that is your right.

OSUCOWBOYS · 05-10-08, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by royalfan

And furthermore, the Royals got their asses kicked unfortunately but you are counting it as a big chalk winner? Fuck, all trends work if you do that. The thing about some of these trends is it isn't even the same players as previous year. It is like waving a magic wand and praying. Just proceed with caution is all I am saying. No logic behind most of them, but if you want to be a fucking prick for no reason, that is your right.

A correction is needed. Ron went 6-1 as Royalfan so nicely pointed out.

Ron's poor record slipped all the way to 38-9. What a bum. Is that the best he can do?

Royalfan, of course your stuff is full of logic yet the 38-9 run over the last 47 documented plays is magical or mystical or fairytale like? Fuck dude. You havent posted ONE "official" play here at EOG that was not a -500 favorite. Yet, you want to discount something that is rolling along at a mindblowing pace.

Does it ever get old being omniscient?

OSUCOWBOYS · 05-10-08, 12:09 PM

Saturday's HUGE slate of games are up in the MLB forum.

Dont miss the boat.

royalfan · 05-10-08, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OSUCOWBOYS

A correction is needed. Ron went 6-1 as Royalfan so nicely pointed out.

Ron's poor record slipped all the way to 38-9. What a bum. Is that the best he can do?

Royalfan, of course your stuff is full of logic yet the 38-9 run over the last 47 documented plays is magical or mystical or fairytale like? Fuck dude. You havent posted ONE "official" play here at EOG that was not a -500 favorite. Yet, you want to discount something that is rolling along at a mindblowing pace.

Does it ever get old being omniscient?

This isn't about me and my plays. This is about me trying to help people understand that there is no logical basis behind these plays. And since you are being a fucking asshole about it, now I am going to have to be one back when the fucking thing doesn't work. And I don't like having to do that. I will try one more time to get you to understand my point since you aparently are shallow minded or at least acting like it.

royalfan · 05-10-08, 01:50 PM

Hell even your buddy Frog, would come on here and say the same thing I am.

OSUCOWBOYS · 05-10-08, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by royalfan

This isn't about me and my plays. This is about me trying to help people understand that there is no logical basis behind these plays. And since you are being a fucking asshole about it, now I am going to have to be one back when the fucking thing doesn't work. And I don't like having to do that. I will try one more time to get you to understand my point since you aparently are shallow minded or at least acting like it.

I am an asshole because you are knocking a guy that has produced 38 winners out of 47 plays? OK I get it. I am sure that your -500 fav that you posted is much "sharper" than a 38-9 DOCUMENTED record.

As far as you coming back if it doesnt work, why does that not surprise me? But, you may wanna take a vacation. Cuz even if he loses his next 25+ plays he will still be many units ahead of where you are here at EOG.

Have a nice day Pioneer, errr, I mean Royalfan.

royalfan · 05-10-08, 02:00 PM

I got an idea Travis. I book every one of these for 50 bucks a game until the all star break. We will use whatever book you wants closing lines. Settle up at the all star break or we can settle whenever someone gets up 500 bucks too if you want.

royalfan · 05-10-08, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OSUCOWBOYS

I am an asshole because you are knocking a guy that has produced 38 winners out of 47 plays? OK I get it. I am sure that your -500 fav that you posted is much "sharper" than a 38-9 DOCUMENTED record.

As far as you coming back if it doesnt work, why does that not surprise me? But, you may wanna take a vacation. Cuz even if he loses his next 25+ plays he will still be many units ahead of where you are here at EOG.

Have a nice day Pioneer, errr, I mean Royalfan.

I never knocked anyone. That is what you can't fucking understand for some reason. I am just explaining that there is no logic behind some or most of these trends. It is not even the same fucking players as the prior years teams in many instances. And there was a trend play on or against a team that gave up exactly 8 runs the day before? Are you fucking kidding me? So if they gave up 9 it makes the next days play different than if they gave up 8? You know how ridiculous that sounds? And don't get me started on if they gave up 7. The guy is posting info he finds useful and thinks help others. I just am trying to protect the masses, making them understand this for what it is worth as you are making it out to be some can't lose goldmine. Then you knock me for trying to help. That is horseshit.

royalfan · 05-10-08, 02:06 PM

And why the comparison to Pioneer? What the fuck do I have in common what that guy? More nonsense coming out of your mouth. Not sure what your problem is.

OSUCOWBOYS · 05-10-08, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by royalfan

I never knocked anyone. That is what you can't fucking understand for some reason. I am just explaining that there is no logic behind some or most of these trends. It is not even the same fucking players as the prior years teams in many instances. And there was a trend play on or against a team that gave up exactly 8 runs the day before? Are you fucking kidding me? So if they gave up 9 it makes the next days play different than if they gave up 8? You know how ridiculous that sounds? And don't get me started on if they gave up 7. The guy is posting info he finds useful and thinks help others. I just am trying to protect the masses, making them understand this for what it is worth as you are making it out to be some can't lose goldmine. Then you knock me for trying to help. That is horseshit.

But that the reasoning you use while handicapping is supposed to be MENSA material? Why is it so "ridiculous" if it is working? You are criticizing something that is producing INCREDIBLE results. Why are YOU and what YOU do better than what this guy is doing?

royalfan · 05-10-08, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OSUCOWBOYS

But that the reasoning you use while handicapping is supposed to be MENSA material? Why is it so "ridiculous" if it is working? You are criticizing something that is producing INCREDIBLE results. Why are YOU and what YOU do better than what this guy is doing?

I am not criticizing anything. I am just saying that these trends don't make any sense at least most of them. I mean fucking a the one I gave in the last post tells it all? Not sure what you can't understand. Yeah it may be hot now, anything can be over a short sample size. But I will show you I am right if you want to enter the 50 buck challenge. We can do it till end of year or just all star break. Up to you. You pick the books closers to use.

Wilson · 05-10-08, 02:28 PM

Mr Royalfan, the guys are lining up to fight you in NYC, you might need a trainer.

05-09-08, 12:48 PM	#1
OSUCOWBOYS Free thinker Join Date: Oct 19, 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 6,116	You baseball guys might want to check out.... ATSDatabase in the MLB forum. His trends are simply en fuego. (32-8 the last 4 days) Down to earth guy. No chest thumping, no agenda. Just posts and leaves. Look him up boys. He makes Journeyman look like me!! (J/K J-man) Thanks Ron for sharing your "stuff" with us.

05-09-08, 02:02 PM	#2
OSUCOWBOYS Free thinker Join Date: Oct 19, 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 6,116	Re: You baseball guys might want to check out.... Bump You are missing out. I'm telling ya.

05-09-08, 03:02 PM	#3
royalfan EOG Veteran Join Date: Aug 22, 2005 Posts: 1,952	Re: You baseball guys might want to check out.... Just be careful. There needs to be a reason why the trend is good and those look to possibly be unsubstantiated trends to me. You can backlog every angle there is and random number theory tells you that some are going to have great records over the short run, but doesn't mean anything unless there is a reason the trend keeps working. Thanks for the heads up OSU, but definately not my method of handicapping.

05-09-08, 03:06 PM	#4
OSUCOWBOYS Free thinker Join Date: Oct 19, 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 6,116	Re: You baseball guys might want to check out.... 80% is an anomaly. Why not ride it while it is hot? I know have to do something to offset your best friend while he is a little cold. (OK, not a little, a lot) He will turn it around and Ron will cool off. That is the way it goes.

05-10-08, 05:21 AM	#8
royalfan EOG Veteran Join Date: Aug 22, 2005 Posts: 1,952	Re: You baseball guys might want to check out.... And don't put words in my mouth please. That pisses me off when people make shit up. Just because I said that isn't my method following trends that may or may not have any logic doesn't mean I told anyone else not to. Give some logic on the plays? That is what matters. You can do that then the play is worth it. If there isn't any then it isn't. Simple as that.

05-10-08, 05:25 AM	#9
royalfan EOG Veteran Join Date: Aug 22, 2005 Posts: 1,952	Re: You baseball guys might want to check out.... And furthermore, the Royals got their asses kicked unfortunately but you are counting it as a big chalk winner? Fuck, all trends work if you do that. The thing about some of these trends is it isn't even the same players as previous year. It is like waving a magic wand and praying. Just proceed with caution is all I am saying. No logic behind most of them, but if you want to be a fucking prick for no reason, that is your right.

05-10-08, 12:09 PM	#11
OSUCOWBOYS Free thinker Join Date: Oct 19, 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 6,116	Re: You baseball guys might want to check out.... Saturday's HUGE slate of games are up in the MLB forum. Dont miss the boat.

05-10-08, 01:50 PM	#13
royalfan EOG Veteran Join Date: Aug 22, 2005 Posts: 1,952	Re: You baseball guys might want to check out.... Hell even your buddy Frog, would come on here and say the same thing I am.

05-10-08, 02:00 PM	#15
royalfan EOG Veteran Join Date: Aug 22, 2005 Posts: 1,952	Re: You baseball guys might want to check out.... I got an idea Travis. I book every one of these for 50 bucks a game until the all star break. We will use whatever book you wants closing lines. Settle up at the all star break or we can settle whenever someone gets up 500 bucks too if you want.

05-10-08, 02:06 PM	#17
royalfan EOG Veteran Join Date: Aug 22, 2005 Posts: 1,952	Re: You baseball guys might want to check out.... And why the comparison to Pioneer? What the fuck do I have in common what that guy? More nonsense coming out of your mouth. Not sure what your problem is.

05-10-08, 02:28 PM	#20
Wilson Reindeer Games Rule Join Date: Mar 20, 2008 Posts: 845	Re: You baseball guys might want to check out.... Mr Royalfan, the guys are lining up to fight you in NYC, you might need a trainer.