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Truthteller · 08-20-05, 11:01 AM

First of all I would like to say congrats to everyone involved with this site.
Secondly after seeing Jay's article it gives me hope that EOG will not take on books with more than questionable reputation and owners like other so called watchdog sites.

It may not be perfect but will not go as low as other "watchdog" sites have gone in the past few months taking on books like BOS, Royal and other scam operations.

I hope EOG makes other "watchdog" sites a bettorsworld in the coming months.

THE SHRINK · 08-20-05, 11:14 AM

Truthteller,

Thank you for noticing one of the things what we are trying to accomplish here at EOG...

I will be the first to admit that I have made MANY mistakes in the past, and one of them was accepting advertising revenue from questionable sports books...

When we decided to launch EOG a few months back, ALL of the people involved with this web site believed that in order to be amongst the BEST, we had to not only "talk the talk," but "walk the walk" as well...

It has not been easy to reject some sponsors who are my FRIENDS because their sports book may not be one of the ones we wish to endorse.

Furthermore, I can't advocate going to web sites who take ad money from KNOWN THIEVES because there are enough GOOD sports books out there to avoid having to jeopardize your integrity and more importantly, other gamblers' MONIES!!!...

My dream would be to witness other sports books and posters IGNORE supporting places like this and I believe this process is starting to happen...

Very shortly you will see one of the most recognized and arguably the NUMBER 1 SPORTS BOOK pull their advertising from a popular gambling portal because they didn't want to be affiliated with a place who promotes marginal sports books...

I can't say I blame them...

THE SHRINK

SBR_John · 08-20-05, 11:31 AM

I would agree with TT.

Many websites and mods and even posters are being paid by the thieves of this industry to misslead new players and coverup past slow and no pays.

Its not the industry that is scum its the people who sell out and work for thieves that make seem that way.

Good luck Ken. Vegas not the same without you and Pete.

Truthteller · 08-20-05, 11:50 AM

Shrink, I always thought if I were an owner of a top book why would I advertise at a site where they have blantant thieves next to my banner. I hope more and more books start doing this.

SBR, I think you have the best list of recommended books with EOG catching up. I find it ironic that they constantly attack you over at MW when all of them are on Tej's payroll.
MW and OGD should never attack people when they are taking money from such thieves as Royal.

Jazz · 08-20-05, 12:03 PM

Why the change of heart now? Concerning accepting sportsbooks' money, I mean. It's good to see you trying to change your old policy, so I do wish you luck. cheers

THE SHRINK · 08-20-05, 12:07 PM

Jazz,

You may or may not remember, but I was ROBBED out of a considerable amount of money by a sports book named SBG GLOBAL...

Therefore, I KNOW FIRSTHAND how SICKENING it feels to be VICTIMIZED by a shady sports book...

As for "why now?"

Why NOT NOW?

THE SHRINK

Jazz · 08-20-05, 12:11 PM

Ahh - but I'm sure you've profited far more from other books for whatever reasons than you ever lost at SBG - just consider it 'overhead expense', like those who were in Betpanam and other similar books found at the old digs did. That's why I always keep a jar of Vaseline next to my monitor, to remind me to get ready to lube myself if I join a shady book.

Anyway, good luck with the new policy. cheers

THE SHRINK · 08-20-05, 12:14 PM

Thanks Jazz...

I appreciate you giving EOG a chance and I will try not to disappoint. The thought of you LUBING yourself isn't a pleasant one...

At the very least, can't you get someone else to do that for ya? dog1

Jazz · 08-20-05, 12:22 PM

Used to have a partner but he left his long-time home recently for brand-new environs - ah, well, gotta make coffee

p.s. These automated smilies for words like 'c-o-f-f-e-e' and 'k-i-c-k' are annoying, hopefully they'll be turned off at some point?

THE SHRINK · 08-20-05, 12:31 PM

Jazz,

We will get on this first thing Monday and add some better ones too.

Our programmer never realized that naming them like we have causes problems when posters type in the same name...

THE SHRINK

The General · 08-20-05, 12:40 PM

It's hard to justify a new or known problematic sports book aside the list we have assembled here.

Welcome John & TT

GreenDoberman · 08-20-05, 12:49 PM

Headed in the right direction with your comments Shrink. Hope you guys stay the course and it will pay off manifold in the future.

Truthteller · 08-20-05, 02:41 PM

I don't see anything wrong with the list of books they have now. I hope they keep it up.

Baker · 03-08-06, 08:58 AM

TT-

It looks like all hope might be lost.

I thiought this post was interesting enough to bump.

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE SHRINK

Truthteller,

Thank you for noticing one of the things what we are trying to accomplish here at EOG...

I will be the first to admit that I have made MANY mistakes in the past, and one of them was accepting advertising revenue from questionable sports books...

When we decided to launch EOG a few months back, ALL of the people involved with this web site believed that in order to be amongst the BEST, we had to not only "talk the talk," but "walk the walk" as well...

It has not been easy to reject some sponsors who are my FRIENDS because their sports book may not be one of the ones we wish to endorse.

Furthermore, I can't advocate going to web sites who take ad money from KNOWN THIEVES because there are enough GOOD sports books out there to avoid having to jeopardize your integrity and more importantly, other gamblers' MONIES!!!...

My dream would be to witness other sports books and posters IGNORE supporting places like this and I believe this process is starting to happen...

Very shortly you will see one of the most recognized and arguably the NUMBER 1 SPORTS BOOK pull their advertising from a popular gambling portal because they didn't want to be affiliated with a place who promotes marginal sports books...

I can't say I blame them...

THE SHRINK

kelp0027 · 03-08-06, 09:10 AM

..part of collecting data and making judgements is the ability to change your judgement when facts change...

just like betting a team strong on mon and fading that same team heavily on wed

jmho

gl

Baker · 03-08-06, 09:18 AM

I agree that opinions can and do change but a persons morals and underlying ethos should be unwavering. If someones moral compass changes depending on the situation that is a pretty good indication that nothing was there to begin with.

JMan-Shill · 03-08-06, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baker

I agree that opinions can and do change but a persons morals and underlying ethos should be unwavering. If someones moral compass changes depending on the situation that is a pretty good indication that nothing was there to begin with.

shrink guy is a total fraud.

whether its stealing from the person who paid him, cheating on his wife, or lying to the people that patronize his site, nothing ever changes with him

good job once again shrink, not !

JC · 09-05-06, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE SHRINK

Truthteller,

Thank you for noticing one of the things what we are trying to accomplish here at EOG...

I will be the first to admit that I have made MANY mistakes in the past, and one of them was accepting advertising revenue from questionable sports books...

When we decided to launch EOG a few months back, ALL of the people involved with this web site believed that in order to be amongst the BEST, we had to not only "talk the talk," but "walk the walk" as well...

It has not been easy to reject some sponsors who are my FRIENDS because their sports book may not be one of the ones we wish to endorse.

Furthermore, I can't advocate going to web sites who take ad money from KNOWN THIEVES because there are enough GOOD sports books out there to avoid having to jeopardize your integrity and more importantly, other gamblers' MONIES!!!...

My dream would be to witness other sports books and posters IGNORE supporting places like this and I believe this process is starting to happen...

Very shortly you will see one of the most recognized and arguably the NUMBER 1 SPORTS BOOK pull their advertising from a popular gambling portal because they didn't want to be affiliated with a place who promotes marginal sports books...

I can't say I blame them...

THE SHRINK

Bump

JC · 09-05-06, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE SHRINK

Jazz,

You may or may not remember, but I was ROBBED out of a considerable amount of money by a sports book named SBG GLOBAL...

Therefore, I KNOW FIRSTHAND how SICKENING it feels to be VICTIMIZED by a shady sports book...

As for "why now?"

Why NOT NOW?

THE SHRINK

Double bump for all those who have been robbed by the owners of Bet Royal, BOS, SBG, and BetUS.

Chuck Sims · 09-05-06, 11:35 PM

Simply unfucking believeable. From taking a stand, to one of the worst websites in cyberspace at promoting thieves. The who's who of scamming, thieving, robbing sportsbooks.

ArchieBunker · 09-05-06, 11:52 PM

Why are any of you surprised at this turn of events Ken has pulled? He's been a whore to the almighty dollar since he's been on the internet. Do any of you really think he gives a rat's ass about YOUR money? The Shrink gets indignant when someone tries to f^ck him out of his money, not you out of yours.

JC · 09-06-06, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The General

It's hard to justify a new or known problematic sports book aside the list we have assembled here.

Welcome John & TT

I missed this quote on the last bump.

08-20-05, 11:01 AM	#1
Truthteller BetRoyal is owned by serial scammer Join Date: Aug 20, 2005 Posts: 250	This site gives me hope First of all I would like to say congrats to everyone involved with this site. Secondly after seeing Jay's article it gives me hope that EOG will not take on books with more than questionable reputation and owners like other so called watchdog sites. It may not be perfect but will not go as low as other "watchdog" sites have gone in the past few months taking on books like BOS, Royal and other scam operations. I hope EOG makes other "watchdog" sites a bettorsworld in the coming months.

09-05-06, 11:35 PM	#20
Chuck Sims EOG Addicted Join Date: Aug 27, 2005 Posts: 987	Re: This site gives me hope Simply unfucking believeable. From taking a stand, to one of the worst websites in cyberspace at promoting thieves. The who's who of scamming, thieving, robbing sportsbooks.

09-05-06, 11:52 PM	#21
ArchieBunker EOG Dedicated Join Date: Nov 27, 2005 Posts: 2,780	Re: This site gives me hope Why are any of you surprised at this turn of events Ken has pulled? He's been a whore to the almighty dollar since he's been on the internet. Do any of you really think he gives a rat's ass about YOUR money? The Shrink gets indignant when someone tries to f^ck him out of his money, not you out of yours.

08-20-05, 11:14 AM	#2
THE SHRINK EOG FOUNDER Join Date: Jul 19, 2005 Location: Chesapeake, Virginia Posts: 25,899	Truthteller, Thank you for noticing one of the things what we are trying to accomplish here at EOG... I will be the first to admit that I have made MANY mistakes in the past, and one of them was accepting advertising revenue from questionable sports books... When we decided to launch EOG a few months back, ALL of the people involved with this web site believed that in order to be amongst the BEST, we had to not only "talk the talk," but "walk the walk" as well... It has not been easy to reject some sponsors who are my FRIENDS because their sports book may not be one of the ones we wish to endorse. Furthermore, I can't advocate going to web sites who take ad money from KNOWN THIEVES because there are enough GOOD sports books out there to avoid having to jeopardize your integrity and more importantly, other gamblers' MONIES!!!... My dream would be to witness other sports books and posters IGNORE supporting places like this and I believe this process is starting to happen... Very shortly you will see one of the most recognized and arguably the NUMBER 1 SPORTS BOOK pull their advertising from a popular gambling portal because they didn't want to be affiliated with a place who promotes marginal sports books... I can't say I blame them... THE SHRINK

08-20-05, 11:31 AM	#3
SBR_John InsideGuy:"BetUS has never stiffed" Join Date: Aug 20, 2005 Posts: 349	I would agree with TT. Many websites and mods and even posters are being paid by the thieves of this industry to misslead new players and coverup past slow and no pays. Its not the industry that is scum its the people who sell out and work for thieves that make seem that way. Good luck Ken. Vegas not the same without you and Pete.

08-20-05, 11:50 AM	#4
Truthteller BetRoyal is owned by serial scammer Join Date: Aug 20, 2005 Posts: 250	Shrink, I always thought if I were an owner of a top book why would I advertise at a site where they have blantant thieves next to my banner. I hope more and more books start doing this. SBR, I think you have the best list of recommended books with EOG catching up. I find it ironic that they constantly attack you over at MW when all of them are on Tej's payroll. MW and OGD should never attack people when they are taking money from such thieves as Royal.

08-20-05, 12:03 PM	#5
Jazz EOG Member Join Date: Aug 20, 2005 Posts: 56	Why the change of heart now? Concerning accepting sportsbooks' money, I mean. It's good to see you trying to change your old policy, so I do wish you luck. cheers

08-20-05, 12:07 PM	#6
THE SHRINK EOG FOUNDER Join Date: Jul 19, 2005 Location: Chesapeake, Virginia Posts: 25,899	Jazz, You may or may not remember, but I was ROBBED out of a considerable amount of money by a sports book named SBG GLOBAL... Therefore, I KNOW FIRSTHAND how SICKENING it feels to be VICTIMIZED by a shady sports book... As for "why now?" Why NOT NOW? THE SHRINK

08-20-05, 12:11 PM	#7
Jazz EOG Member Join Date: Aug 20, 2005 Posts: 56	Ahh - but I'm sure you've profited far more from other books for whatever reasons than you ever lost at SBG - just consider it 'overhead expense', like those who were in Betpanam and other similar books found at the old digs did. That's why I always keep a jar of Vaseline next to my monitor, to remind me to get ready to lube myself if I join a shady book. Anyway, good luck with the new policy. cheers

08-20-05, 12:14 PM	#8
THE SHRINK EOG FOUNDER Join Date: Jul 19, 2005 Location: Chesapeake, Virginia Posts: 25,899	Thanks Jazz... I appreciate you giving EOG a chance and I will try not to disappoint. The thought of you LUBING yourself isn't a pleasant one... At the very least, can't you get someone else to do that for ya? dog1

08-20-05, 12:22 PM	#9
Jazz EOG Member Join Date: Aug 20, 2005 Posts: 56	Used to have a partner but he left his long-time home recently for brand-new environs - ah, well, gotta make coffee p.s. These automated smilies for words like 'c-o-f-f-e-e' and 'k-i-c-k' are annoying, hopefully they'll be turned off at some point?

08-20-05, 12:31 PM	#10
THE SHRINK EOG FOUNDER Join Date: Jul 19, 2005 Location: Chesapeake, Virginia Posts: 25,899	Jazz, We will get on this first thing Monday and add some better ones too. Our programmer never realized that naming them like we have causes problems when posters type in the same name... THE SHRINK

08-20-05, 12:40 PM	#11
The General Another Day, Another Dollar Join Date: Jul 19, 2005 Location: A real precarious world..... Posts: 53,117	It's hard to justify a new or known problematic sports book aside the list we have assembled here. Welcome John & TT

08-20-05, 12:49 PM	#12
GreenDoberman EOG Veteran Join Date: Aug 20, 2005 Posts: 1,332	Headed in the right direction with your comments Shrink. Hope you guys stay the course and it will pay off manifold in the future.

08-20-05, 02:41 PM	#13
Truthteller BetRoyal is owned by serial scammer Join Date: Aug 20, 2005 Posts: 250	I don't see anything wrong with the list of books they have now. I hope they keep it up.

03-08-06, 09:10 AM	#15
kelp0027 EOG Dedicated Join Date: Sep 25, 2005 Location: ninety six, s. car. Posts: 6,977	..part of collecting data and making judgements is the ability to change your judgement when facts change... just like betting a team strong on mon and fading that same team heavily on wed jmho gl

03-08-06, 09:18 AM	#16
Baker EOG Member Join Date: Aug 20, 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 90	I agree that opinions can and do change but a persons morals and underlying ethos should be unwavering. If someones moral compass changes depending on the situation that is a pretty good indication that nothing was there to begin with.