Democrats seek withdrawl of troops from Iraq in 2008,

[wrigley]

Democrats Seek Withdrawal of Troops From Iraq in 2008

By Nicholas Johnston

March 8 (Bloomberg) -- House Democrats said they will seek to force the withdrawal next year of U.S. combat troops from Iraq, a proposal that President George W. Bush's aides immediately said he would veto.

The Democrat's withdrawal requirement will be attached to a war-spending measure and is intended to refocus military attention on the U.S. fight against the Taliban in Afghanistan, Democrats said.

``The proposal that we are talking about today will essentially redirect more of our resources to the war against al-Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan, fighting the right war in the right place against the people who attacked us,'' Representative David Obey, the chairman of the House Appropriations Committee, told reporters.

Bush would veto the Democratic plan, White House spokesman Dan Bartlett said.

``The administration would vehemently oppose and, ultimately, veto any legislation that looks like what was described today,'' Bartlett said aboard Air Force One as Bush headed to Brazil at the start of a five-nation visit to Latin America.

Senate Legislation

In the Senate, Democrats introduced a separate measure today that would revise the 2002 congressional authorization for the use of force in Iraq and require most U.S. troops to be withdrawn by March 31, 2008. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said he wants the Senate to take up the resolution next week.

``This is, in effect, a resolution to end the Iraq war,'' said Senator Russ Feingold, a Wisconsin Democrat.

Under the House legislation, Bush would have to certify that the Iraqi government is making progress in bringing peace to the nation on July 1 and again on October 1, for U.S. troops to remain in the country. Even if the Iraqis meet those conditions, U.S. troop withdrawals would have to begin by March 1, 2008, and be completed within six months.

``It will set a timeline for bringing U.S. participation in Iraq's civil war to an orderly and responsible close,'' Obey said.

Killed

More than 3,100 U.S. military personnel have been killed in Iraq since the U.S. invaded in March 2003.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said House Democrats would be ``unified'' on the legislation, even after struggling to reach a consensus on a policy since passing a resolution last month that ``disapproves'' of Bush's strategy to send more U.S. troops to the war-torn country.

Before Democratic leaders finished presenting the new legislation to their colleagues, a group of party lawmakers who oppose the war denounced the measure.

``Here we are depending on the president and whatever he tells us about progress,'' California Democrat Lynn Woolsey said. ``Are we to believe we're going to get good information from the president?''

Woolsey and other members of a Democratic group calling for a quicker withdrawal from Iraq introduced an amendment to the spending bill that would require U.S. troops to withdraw by the end of this year.

`Home'

``We want our troops home with their families by Christmastime,'' Woolsey said. ``It's not enough to put restrictions on the president he will surely waive.''

Pelosi said no decisions had been made on the consideration of amendments. Debate in committee is to begin next week with consideration by the full House the following week.

``I believe in the end we'll be unified,'' Pelosi said.

Democrats who had expressed skepticism about putting undue restraints on military commanders in the field said it appeared that the measure introduced today would meet their approval.

``I think it is sufficiently broad to bring in enough of my colleagues,'' Dennis Cardoza of California said. Kansas Democrat Nancy Boyda said it strikes a ``good balance.''

Some U.S. forces would be allowed to remain in the country to continue training Iraq security forces and to protect U.S. diplomatic installations under the measure unveiled today.

House Republicans have pledged to oppose any war spending bill that includes too many provisions that tie Bush's hands.

``I'm going to vote against this if they try to micromanage the war,'' Illinois Republican Ray LaHood said. ``It's a no- brainer for me and it will be a no-brainer for a lot of Republicans.

$1.2 Billion

Democrats said their plan would provide $1.2 billion more than the administration requested for the conflict in Afghanistan. The measure would also add $3.5 billion for programs aiding recuperating soldiers, especially those with brain injuries and post-traumatic stress disorder.

The legislation would also provide more than $12 billion for domestic programs unrelated to the war, including $2.5 billion to improve security at the nation's ports, airports and borders, $1 billion to buy pandemic flu vaccines and $2.9 billion to Gulf Coast states recovering from Hurricane Katrina.

The measure would have to pass the House and Senate, and would be subject to a Bush veto.

Reid announced the new Senate proposal after an afternoon meeting of Senate Democrats to find consensus on Iraq legislation. Senate Democrats were thwarted by Republicans in an effort to pass the House's nonbinding resolution because of disagreements over what alternative measures would be considered.

Authorization

The binding proposal introduced today says the original authorization for the war is no longer valid and that U.S. troops shouldn't be policing an Iraqi civil war. Like the House measure, it would allow some troops to remain for security and training.

Bush in January ordered the deployment of 21,500 additional troops to Iraq to improve security amid a growing insurgency against foreign forces and violence between Iraq's Shiite Muslim majority and Sunni Muslim minority.

The U.S. military commander in Iraq, General David Petraeus, said the deployment of the additional soldiers and Marines will be complete by early June. There are about 141,000 U.S. troops in Iraq now, including the first arrivals who are part on Bush's increase.

``We are receiving about one brigade per month,'' Petraeus said today in a news conference televised from Baghdad by the Pentagon. ``The combat forces should all be here and into location by early June.''

To contact the reporter on this story: Nicholas Johnston in Washington at

[Doc Mercer]

Nitemare ....

Thank you Commander Bush for being the most Inept CIC in the history of
mankind

[wrigley]

Originally Posted by doc mercer

Nitemare ....

Thank you Commander Bush for being the most Inept CIC in the history of
mankind

Its sad even many right wingers have said time for the troops to come home
how many more soldiers will this war monger send to their deaths for no reason.

Your statement sums it up well Doc

[dirty]

I wonder if it will actually come to a vote this time....

[Doc Mercer]

Wrigley:

Bush has no desire to see the troops home ..... none at all

Between the PNAC gameplan and the Investigations brewing on the homefront Bush knows as long as he can keep troops in Iraq and tell the SHEEP "we
are fighting them there so they dont come over here" that his ass will
avoid the ultimate frying pan

[The Devil]

HOW CAN A DEMOCRAT SAY THAT WHEN WE ALL KNOW 9-11 WAS STAGED BY BUSH?????

``The proposal that we are talking about today will essentially redirect more of our resources to the war against al-Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan, fighting the right war in the right place against the people who attacked us,'' Representative David Obey, the chairman of the House Appropriations Committee, told reporters.

SOUNDS LIKE THEY ARE BACK PEDDLING ON BRINGING THE TROOPS HOME IN 6 MONTHS.........NOW IT'S MARCH 31, 2008...........


In the Senate, Democrats introduced a separate measure today that would revise the 2002 congressional authorization for the use of force in Iraq and require most U.S. troops to be withdrawn by March 31, 2008. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said he wants the Senate to take up the resolution next week.

[dirty]

They have either Backpeddled or not done one thing they said they were going to do during the elections... From a Longer work week, to ending the war, to lowering gas prices....

[The Devil]

I AM ALSO WONDERING WHY THIS DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS IS NOT BLOCKING THE MERCER TOLL ROAD????????

YOU WOULD THINK BETWEEN ALEX JONES AND DOC THEY CAN STOP THIS ROAD.............

[Doc Mercer]

Really?

Have not done one thing?

Dirty ..... DENSE defines you well to say the least


The DEMS have done more since January than BUSHCO has done in 6 yrs
and if they pull out of Bush's clusterfuck:

1) Dirty screams "cut and runners"

If they stay:

2) Dirty says "no game plan"


THIS IS BUSH'S FUCKIN WAR BASED ON LIES .....

[dirty]

What have they done Doc... Make a List of what the Democrats have done that they Promised during the Election

[Doc Mercer]

dealing with the minimum wage, embryonic stem cell research, health care, national security, education and energy ... shall we gooo onnnn???


AND THE MOST IMPORTANT PART? FUCK YOUR HEROES AS THESE INVESTIGATIONS ARE GOING TO BE ONGOING AND I LOVE SEEING PLAME TESTIFYING NEXT WEEK!!


DIRTY IS A BUSH LOYALIST .....FUCK THIS SHIT AS THE DEMS ARE GOING TO KEEP THE HEAT ON!!!!


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[dirty]

Doc...what has been done...what has been Voted on....what has been enacted into law.... has the war been Voted on... have Gas prices came down.... are Congressman and Senators working Longer weeks like promised.... Has Pelosi Given Companies that Contribute to her Campaign Relief from any Min Wage hike.....

[Doc Mercer]

Lets see ....

Name ONE THING POSITIVE accomplished in 6 yrs under BUSHCO before
slamming 2 months of Dem influence??

GOOOOO AHEAD .... CAUSE YA CANT !!!


The only way Repugs wanted to enact an increase in the minimum wage if
the kicker was included to aid wealthy folks like Paris Hilton


NOT ONE THING .... NOT ONE THING IN 6 YRS!@!!

[dirty]

This is not about Bush Doc....This is about your Democratic Controlled Congress

[dirty]

Originally Posted by doc mercer

AND THE MOST IMPORTANT PART? FUCK YOUR HEROES AS THESE INVESTIGATIONS ARE GOING TO BE ONGOING AND I LOVE SEEING PLAME TESTIFYING NEXT WEEK!!




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Glad to see you admit what is most important... It is not about ending the War and getting our Troops Home... It is Investigations that Justify your Vile attacks on the Right for the last 6 years.... You could give a Rats Ass about our Troops, Our Country, or anything else as long as Bush, Cheney, Rove, Libby, etc... get it "shoved Up their Ass"


Thanks for Proving My belief's about you all along... You are a self Serving, unrepentant, Anti American Bullshit Artist and anyone that can read knows that

[The Devil]

DOC DO THEY ACCEPT EZPASS ON THE NEW TOLL ROAD BY YOU????

[Doc Mercer]

Ohhhh ....sooo now Dirty is "concerned" about getting the troops home???

[The Devil]

NO DEBATING SKILLS WHATSOEVER........THE MORE YOU POST THE WORSE YOU LOOK...TAKE THE DAY OFF AND TRY AGAIN TOMORROW...............

[dirty]

Doc quit ducking the Topic at hand... This thread is about getting our Troops HOme which your holier than Thou Democrats said would happen in 6 MOnths.... Well it has been 1/2 of that and not even a vote is on the Radar... why aren't you drying about that....Because we all know it is about Bush, Cheney and Their Cabinet getting investigated and Brandished...that is all you want and care about... you don't fool anyone... you want More Troops to die so you have more "ammunition" against the Right.... Don't deny it Doc... you come in here and Plaster every Troop that dies over In Iraq with its' own headline and you revel in the fact that these kids are Dying because it Furthers your selfish Cause to see the the Right "Gets what it Deserves".


Save the thetoric and other Bullshit for some one that Buys your Crap

[Doc Mercer]

Too funny!!

Dirty trashed anyone that was against this war and "cut and running" and now this bullshit???

PLEASE .... YOUR "CONCERNS" ARE LEGENDARY!!

[dirty]

Answer the questions doc...quit trying to Turn this around on Me, because it will not work .. I guess you not answering the question Proves my Point that you want more Troops to die to use against the Right....


Every one knew this from the Get go.... Just wanted to see if you would admit it....but silence and Topic Changing says it all

[The Devil]

DOC MERCER "I CAN STAY ON TOPIC".........


I JUST REALIZED DOC MUST BE A BLONDE.........

[Doc Mercer]

I dont really care .... the Repugs wanted our kids to die so lets let it
play out and the blood of Americans soldiers falls squarely into Bush's lap


I am more concerned to take down Cheney at this stage and hang that
bastard from a rope


DIRTY .... YOU WANTED AMERICA TO STAY IN IRAQ SO ENJOY!!!

[dirty]

Good Doc... You admitted it finally... You don't care about anything else but Cheney hanging from a Rope.... That wasn't hard now was it

[dirty]

Doc...you feel better now that you admitted you revel in our Troops deaths so you can add more ammunition to the fire to go after Cheney and Bush

[Doc Mercer]

Right onnnnn ....

Great to see Dirty so "concerned" now !!


HEY PRIVATE RYAN .... YA LOVE BUSH SO MUCH THIS SHOULD CEMENT HIS
"LEGACY" AS THE WORSE CIC THIS COUNTRY HAS EVER SEEN!!

YOU DID NOT SAY ONE WORD WHEN OUR KIDS WERE DYING UP UNTIL NOVEMBER AND GAVE ME AND OTHERS SHIT SO GO TO HELL AS PHONY CHICKENHAWKS LIKE YOURSELF ARE THE SAME CLOWNS WHO WANTED TO
DONATE SPERM TO MARY CHENEY


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