I guess its time for Jimmy Carter to leave the earth ...

[Nicolos_Darvas]

What a fuckin idiot !!!!

U.S., Israel Criticize Carter Plans to See Hamas

Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:34 PM Article Font Size

WASHINGTON - The U.S. State Department said on Thursday it had advised former President Jimmy Carter against meeting the leader of Hamas in Syria next week, saying it went against U.S. policy of isolating the militant group. Carter plans to visit Israel, the West Bank, Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia and Jordan during a nine-day trip due to start on Sunday but gave no details of specific meetings. "This is a study mission and our purpose is not to negotiate but to support and provide momentum for current efforts to secure peace in the Middle East," the Carter Center said in a statement. "Our delegation has considerable experience in the region, and we go there with an open mind and heart to listen and learn from all parties," it said. Carter, who won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2002, discussed with the State Department's point person on Israeli-Palestinian issues, David Welch, his plans to meet exiled Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal in Damascus, but the department said it went against U.S. policy. "We counseled against it," said State Department spokesman Sean McCormack. "U.S. government policy is that Hamas is a terrorist organization and we don't believe it is in the interests of our policy or in the interests of peace to have such a meeting." Israel's ambassador to the United States, Sallai Meridor, also expressed concern over such a meeting. "The unintended consequences of such a meeting would be to embolden terrorists and undermine the cause of peace," he told Reuters. Carter, 83, served one term as president from 1977 to 1981. He succeeded in negotiating the 1978 Camp David Accords that paved the way for peace between Israel and Egypt but he has increasingly taken positions highly critical of Israel. In a 2006 book, he described Israeli policy in the occupied territories as "a system of apartheid." U.S. policy is to isolate Hamas, which has control of Gaza and is committed to the destruction of Israel. Washington sees pro-Western Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas as its partner in U.S.-sponsored peace talks with the Israelis. PLANS UNDER WAY "There is an agreement to hold the meeting and arrangements are under way," Hamas official Ayman Taha told Reuters in Gaza of Carter's meeting. Taha said the meeting was to be held following a request from the Atlanta-based Carter Center, which aims to promote global peace, health, democracy and human rights. A spokeswoman for Carter declined to comment on specific meetings. The delegation will include former first lady Rosalynn Carter and ex-Congressman Stephen Solarz. Initially, Carter had hoped to go with a group of 'elder statesmen,' including former U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan and former South African President Nelson Mandela, but the others decided the timing was wrong. "The elders will consider consultations with key leaders in the region and outside with the purpose of developing a comprehensive report, but have decided to postpone their visit," said a statement on Tuesday from the group of 12 former leaders on their Web site, The Elders :: theElders.org. Carter has been harshly critical of the Bush administration's foreign policy, from the invasion of Iraq to its approach to Iran as well as the Israeli-Palestinian issue. McCormack said the U.S. government would provide support for Carter's Syrian trip but would not take part in any of his meetings or the planning and scheduling of those talks. © 2008 Reuters. All rights reserved. Republication or redistribution of Reuters content, including by caching, framing or similar means, is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters.

[Doc Mercer]

Seems you forgot not too long ago Rice's situation with Hamas ...

Interesting how the Right has short memory functions

[Ego74]

GREAT quote from Jimma Carter:

Jimmy Carter:
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.”

[Doc Mercer]

Remember Bush's quote on wanting to be a Dictator?

[Doc Mercer]

After failing to anticipate Hamas’s victory over Fatah in the 2006 Palestinian election, the White House cooked up yet another scandalously covert and self-defeating Middle East debacle: part Iran-contra, part Bay of Pigs. With confidential documents, corroborated by outraged former and current U.S. officials, David Rose reveals how President Bush, Condoleezza Rice, and Deputy National-Security Adviser Elliott Abrams backed an armed force under Fatah strongman Muhammad Dahlan, touching off a bloody civil war in Gaza and leaving Hamas stronger than ever. The Gaza Bombshell: Politics & Power: vanityfair.com

[Ego74]

I'm not part of the whole Bash Bush crowd, but I don't like him either Anti-GWB.

Big-time Libertarian here

[Doc Mercer]

Dont blame ya ... Hell ... the only one with guts right now appears to be Kunich Impeach the entire BUSHCO pack and throw their asses in jail

[diggin'4gold]

Originally Posted by Anti GWB

Dont blame ya ... Hell ... the only one with guts right now appears to be Kunich Impeach the entire BUSHCO pack and throw their asses in jail

I'm in total agreement on this one.

[Doc Mercer]

and make Sure Bush and Cheney end up in separate cells with 6 "Insurgents" and no vaseline .... A little "torture" goes a long way for COURAGEOUS asswipes like Bush and Cheney

[mr merlin]

Viva Bush the liberator!

[Doc Mercer]

The only thing Bush "liberated" was complete gutting of a country he admitted publically had nothing to do with 9-11 Thank God he promised in Oct of 2000 to do no "Nation Building"

[mr merlin]

Originally Posted by Anti GWB

The only thing Bush "liberated" was complete gutting of a country he admitted publically had nothing to do with 9-11 Thank God he promised in Oct of 2000 to do no "Nation Building"

Personally, I find it much more satisfying to destroy an arab country, so i'll give Bush a pass on that one.

[diggin'4gold]

Hey Anti, meet EOG's resident troll, mr merlin, not sure if hes serious or just likes to bust balls.

[Doc Mercer]

and one wonders why they hate our guts??? What we have done to Iraq is disgusting ... we set up the No Fly zones and have raped this country basically since Bush 41 gave Saddam the Green Lite to invade Kuwait .... Obama's Pastor who used the words of one of Reagan's boys about the "Roosters coming home" is 100% accurate

[mr merlin]

Originally Posted by Anti GWB

and one wonders why they hate our guts??? What we have done to Iraq is disgusting ... we set up the No Fly zones and have raped this country basically since Bush 41 gave Saddam the Green Lite to invade Kuwait .... Obama's Pastor who used the words of one of Reagan's boys about the "Roosters coming home" is 100% accurate

hate our guts? 911 mboy - the debt has not yet been paid by them bastatrds... and so the war goes on. good afternoon diggin - sometimes I'm serious, but usually I'm not. I am kinda conservative though.

[Doc Mercer]

The USA will arm whoever is deemed worthy ... hell Reagan armed both Iran and Iraq .... New Yorker columnist Sy Hersh says the “single most explosive” element of his latest article involves an effort by the Bush administration to stem the growth of Shiite influence in the Middle East (specifically the Iranian government and Hezbollah in Lebanon) by funding violent Sunni groups. Hersh says the U.S. has been “pumping money, a great deal of money, without congressional authority, without any congressional oversight” for covert operations in the Middle East where it wants to “stop the Shiite spread or the Shiite influence.” Hersh says these funds have ended up in the hands of “three Sunni jihadist groups” who are “connected to al Qaeda” but “want to take on Hezbollah.” Think Progress

[diggin'4gold]

Originally Posted by Anti GWB

The USA will arm whoever is deemed worthy ... hell Reagan armed both Iran and Iraq .... New Yorker columnist Sy Hersh says the “single most explosive” element of his latest article involves an effort by the Bush administration to stem the growth of Shiite influence in the Middle East (specifically the Iranian government and Hezbollah in Lebanon) by funding violent Sunni groups. Hersh says the U.S. has been “pumping money, a great deal of money, without congressional authority, without any congressional oversight” for covert operations in the Middle East where it wants to “stop the Shiite spread or the Shiite influence.” Hersh says these funds have ended up in the hands of “three Sunni jihadist groups” who are “connected to al Qaeda” but “want to take on Hezbollah.” Think Progress

Not hard to believe, but will never be reported in the mainstream media in the U.S.A.

[Doc Mercer]

The MSM is too busy focused on "Important" issues: * Hilliary drinking a shot of booze * Obama's Pastor making comments that Gates agrees with

[diggin'4gold]

Originally Posted by Anti GWB

The MSM is too busy focused on "Important" issues: * Hilliary drinking a shot of booze * Obama's Pastor making comments that Gates agrees with

The logic behind not reporting news of this nature is one of two things;

"its classified, and the public has no need to know about it", or

"it will cause public unrest and protest, and we can't have any of that"

[Doc Mercer]

I miss those "Terror Warning" Levels going up and watching the FOX NEWS crowd run for cover ....

[diggin'4gold]

Originally Posted by Anti GWB

I miss those "Terror Warning" Levels going up and watching the FOX NEWS crowd run for cover ....

That crap was such a joke and they stopped doing it.

[Doc Mercer]

Dont forget the Duct Tape bullshit ... Cheney major stockholder of a company that owns 97% of worldwide sales /// dont forget the Avian Bird flu scare which netted Rumsfeld millions .....

[Doc Mercer]

Nicolas: Interesting how one of your GOP heroes touted the following: Colin Powell says engage Hamas: Colin Powell says engage Hamas

[4625]

As for the side topic, I think merlin merely enjoys pulling people offside; a pastime which can oftentimes be enjoyable in the extreme. . . .

[Doc Mercer]

are we sure that Merlin is not the following: YouTube - Pierce Bush In 2024

[Doc Mercer]

Posted: April 15, 2008 10:21 pm Eastern By Aaron Klein © 2008 WorldNetDaily Condoleezza Rice JERUSALEM – For at least the fourth time in recent months, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice referred to the Hamas terrorist organization as a "resistance" movement during unscripted remarks with reporters, WND has learned.

[mr merlin]

Originally Posted by Anti GWB

are we sure that Merlin is not the following: YouTube - Pierce Bush In 2024

I'm a little Bushed out for the time being, I do think the Mccain/Cheney ticket will do the trick though.

[Doc Mercer]

Right .... McCain cant find his ass without Libermann next to him and Cheney has an approval rating of around 18% .... Keep dreaming