Rice ... please resign for the good of this country!!!

[Anti GWB]

This chick should go find a man ... get out of DC as she is a lying Bush hack who has done a lot more harm than good .... Now she is pissed off at Jimmy Carter over him visiting with Hamas ..... Stand tall Jimmy and continue calling this Neo Con War Criminal out for his lies .... Say what ya want but Carter is believable and Mrs Bush has become a complete laughingstock and should have been shitted canned a long time ago .... I guess sleeping with Bush is one way to guarantee long time employement even if one is a complete fuckup

[DimeDR]

Condoleezza Rice Must GO

not sure if this has been posted before.

[DimeDR]

YouTube - Bush Admits Ordering Torture! ~Olbermann

Green Light for Iraqi Prison Abuse Came Right from the Top Classified documents show the former US military chief in Iraq personally sanctioned measures banned by the Geneva Conventions.

by Andrew Buncombe in Washington

America's leading civil liberties group has demanded an investigation into the former US military commander Iraq after a formerly classified memo revealed that he personally sanctioned a series of coercive interrogation techniques outlawed by the Geneva Conventions. The group claims that his directives were directly linked to the sort of abuses that took place at Abu Ghraib. Documents obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) reveal that Lt General Ricardo Sanchez authorized techniques such as the use of dogs to intimidate prisoners, stress positions and disorientation. In the documents, obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, Gen Sanchez admits that some of the techniques would not be tolerated by other countries. When he appeared last year before a Congressional committee, Gen Sanchez denied authorizing such techniques. He has now been accused of perjury. The ACLU says the documents reveal that the abuse of prisoners in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere was the result of an organized and co-ordinated plan for dealing with prisoners captured during the so-called war on terror that originates at the highest levels of the chain of command. It says that far from being isolated incident, the shocking abuse at Abu Ghraib that was revealed last year was part of a pattern. "We think that the techniques authorized by Gen Sanchez were certainly responsible for putting into play the sort of abuses that we saw at Abu Ghraib," Amirit Singh, an ACLU lawyer, told The Independent on Sunday. "And it does not just stop with Sanchez. It goes to [Defense Secretary Donald] Rumsfeld, who wrote memos authorizing these sorts of techniques at Guantanamo Bay." In the September 2003 memo, Gen Sanchez authorized the use of 29 techniques for interrogating prisoners being held by the US. These included stress positions, "yelling, loud music and light control" as well as the use of muzzled military dogs in order to "exploit Arab fear of dogs". Some of the most notorious photographs to emerge from the Abu Ghraib scandal showed hand-cuffed, naked Iraqi prisoners cowering from snarling dogs. Six weeks after Gen Sanchez issued his memo, a subsequent directive banned the use of dogs and several of the other techniques following concerns raised by military lawyers. The ACLU says that at least 12 of the techniques listed in the memo went beyond the limits for interrogation listed in the US Army's field manual. "Gen Sanchez authorized interrogation techniques that were in clear violation of the Geneva Conventions and the army's own standards," said Ms Singh. "He and other high-ranking officials who bear responsibility for the widespread abuse of detainees must be held accountable." The Abu Ghraib scandal sent shockwaves around the world and further undermined US credibility in the Arab world. In the immediate aftermath, insurgents who captured and beheaded a US engineer, Nick Berg, said they had done so in retaliation for the abuse at the infamous prison west of Baghdad, where prisoners were sexually humiliated and tortured. A number of low-ranking reservists have been charged over the abuse. An alleged ringleader, Charles Graner, 36, was convicted last January and sentenced to 10 years in jail. At his trial his lawyer, Guy Womack, claimed his client was being used as a scapegoat. "The government is asking a corporal to take the hit for them," he said. "The chain of command says, 'We didn't know anything about this stuff'. You know that is a lie." When he appeared before the Senate Armed Services Committee in May 2004, Gen Sanchez flatly refused approving such techniques in Iraq, and said that a news article reporting otherwise was false. "I never approved any of those measures to be used ... at any time in the last year," he said under oath. The ACLU accuses him of committing perjury and has asked the Attorney General to investigate. In a letter to Alberto Gonzales, the group said: "Gen Sanchez's testimony, given under oath before the Senate Armed Services committee, is utterly inconsistent with the written record, and deserves serious investigation. This clear breach of the public's trust is also further proof that the American people deserve the appointment of an independent special counsel by the Attorney General." A number of investigations have been carried out into the abuse at Abu Ghraib and elsewhere. While some have referred to a break-down in the chain of command, none have placed responsibility with senior officers or politicians. Kathy Kelley, a spokeswoman for the anti-war group Voices in the Wilderness, said the new documents obtained by the ACLU showed a pattern of abuse by US forces. "It saddens me but I am not shocked," she said. Gen Sanchez is currently commanding general of the US V Corps based in Germany. He has yet to comment on the release of the memo. A Pentagon spokesman declined to comment. The Pentagon originally refused to release the memo on national security grounds, but passed it to the ACLU after the group challenged it in court. Mr Rumsfeld last week dismissed suggestions that it had been withheld to save the Pentagon's embarrassment. But the ACLU said the reason for the delay in delivering the more than 1,200 pages of documents in which the memo was contained was "evident in the contents", which included reports of brutal beatings and sworn statements that soldiers were told to "beat the fuck out of" prisoners.

[mr merlin]

Are you saying that the "abuse" of filthy insurgents at abu-gharib was a bad thing?

[Anti GWB]

Merlin: Stop watching FOX NEWS ..... Published: May 30, 2004 Hundreds of Iraqi prisoners were held in Abu Ghraib prison for prolonged periods despite a lack of evidence that they posed a security threat to American forces, according to an Army report completed last fall. The unpublished report, by Maj. Gen. Donald J. Ryder, reflects what other senior Army officers have described as a deep concern among some American officers and officials in Iraq over the refusal of top American commanders in Baghdad to authorize the release of so-called security prisoners. Some of those prisoners were held for interrogation at Abu Ghraib in the cellblock that became the site of the worst abuses at the prison.

[DimeDR]

merlin,

get the oscar nominated doc the ghost of abu-ghraib ...

guess how many prisoners have ever been "found to be guilty" of anything?

Do some research, instead of naysaying facts. Least spell it right. thanks

abu-ghraib - Google Video

[Anti GWB]

Reports are 90% of those held at Abu Ghraid were INNOCENT .... nice to see that you believe that torturing folks that had nothing to do with Bush's clusterfuck is acceptable .....

[DimeDR]

abu-ghraib - Google Video

merlin, does this get you as excited as someone who flies OJ's avatar?

[Anti GWB]

I am guessing in real life that Mr Merlin might be John Gibson of FOX NEWS???

[DimeDR]

i heard he got the part for steinbeck's Lenny back in HS ... course thats when he could still throw that speedball by you --da Boss--

[Anti GWB]

Good one !!! ..... I would like to see an EOG table gathering talking politics between Merlin, Nicolas and the rest of the FLOCK .... Lot of "indepth" discussions on that table !!

[The Devil]

Originally Posted by mr merlin

Are you saying that the "abuse" of filthy insurgents at abu-gharib was a bad thing?

MERLIN, SOME PEOPLE JUST CAN'T TAKE A JOKE...........

[Anti GWB]

Funny how folks from the Right who have not lost a loved one in this nitemare laugh at American and Iraqi families ...... SOOO FLAPPIN FUNNY

[mr merlin]

Originally Posted by The Devil

MERLIN, SOME PEOPLE JUST CAN'T TAKE A JOKE...........

Yup - they sure have a lot of starch in their shorts dont they?
But back on topic for you morons - just because someone has not been charged or hasn't had a trial doesn't make them innocent. Also, making them get naked and assemble into piles is not much of a humiliation since we all know that homosexuality is rampant among the muslim population not just in Iraq, but everywhere.

[Anti GWB]

Merlin: Limbaugh is on live in 6 minutes ... grab your bottle of Jack Daniels and your latest Coulter book called "How to be a Bush Supporter and make one dumbass post after another at EOG" and things should be fine in your world