Society must choose: The Sodomites or Judeo-Christian Tradition

[4625]

Originally Posted by Joe Contrarian

Obviously there are different gradations of evil and different gradations of sin.

The more pertinent question is: how does oral sex (or any sexual act in private, for that matter) impact society?

Are heterosexuals marching in the streets half naked demanding their "blow job rights" grossing out and terrorizing the rest of us?

Uhhh, nooooo...

These things are kept private -- as it should be.

I don't judge what goes on in someone's private bedroom. I don't care. It doesn't impact me. It doesn't impact society. What goes on in your private bedroom is between you, your partner and God. NOBODY else.

That's how it should be.

We aren't to judge private behavior.

It's public behavior we need to have standards for.

For example...

Urination and defecation are private acts -- completely natural. (Btw, don't you love that word? It's the most meaningless, ABUSED word in politics these days...it also happens to be UTTERLY MEANINGLESS!)

Everyone urinates and defecates multiple times a day.

But...BUT....

Should these private acts be thrust into the public square?

OF COURSE NOT!

Can you be arrested for it?

Uh, yeah.

Aha!

Therefore...

It's the sodomites (and their sodomite-enablers) that bring their vile demonic acts out in the open, and therefore into the public arena to be judged.

THEY START THESE POLITICAL AND CULTURAL WARS -- NOT CONSERVATIVES.

Conservatives don't want to "govern in your bedroom", as these left wing drones are always chanting.

IT'S THE OTHER WAY AROUND!

That's the irony.

Name one heterosexual group/fetish marching for their "rights"?

WHAT AN EMBARRASSMENT!

Do the sodomites and their sodomite-enablers understand the meaning of the word intimacy?

Memo to Sodomites:

Stop using society as your personal therapist ("coming out of the closet").

Nobody gives a flying fuck about your inner narcissistic inferiority complex you are vomiting all over civilized society.

Everyone knows your devious acts are unhealthy -- emotionally, physically and spiritually, as documented by FZ, myself and others.

Everyone knows your demonic acts are a mental disorder -- the official American Psychiatric Association position before the militant-sodomite agenda perverted the truth (the way they pervert everything else, including language, culture, politics and women's fashions, as I documented earlier).

Is the sodomite culture good for society?

No.

Look at the impact they've had on women.

Folks, let's get real here...

No amount of "social engineering", no amount of accommodation, no amount of indoctrination, no amount of "civil rights", no amount of public charades (parades) will ever mask this mental disorder.

Science will never discover the magic "gay gene" -- because it doesn't exist.

I've known gay people who spoke perfectly civilized language until their demonic feelings forced them underground (the "gay community") and now they act like complete F-A-G-S. They speak with a lisp and dress like a peacock -- probably carrying all sorts of dormant diseases and germs...something every study in this area confirms.

Why should society tolerate such vile public displays of filth?

Why should society change the rules and expose our children to this poison?

Answer: Society shouldn't tolerate it -- no more than we should tolerate people defecating in public.

It's disgusting.

"Stay out of my bedroom" they tell us..

NO SODOMITES -- YOU STAY IN THE BEDROOM!

STAY IN YOUR BEDROOM AND AWAY FROM OUR CHILDREN AND AWAY FROM THE CURRICULUM AND WE'll STOP JUDGING AND EXPOSING YOUR DEVIOUS BEHAVIOR!

I think that's a fair trade.

"Civil rights"...

What about pedophiles, polygamists and those who engage in incest and bestiality?

What about their "civil rights"?

Clubhouse leader in "the poster whose own post most defeats his own argument" contest.

[Doc Mercer]

Sooooo

Dr Ruth protests here as Joe Contrarian?

[MannyLovitto]

So for Mark, Sodomy if done to a Canadian like him = GOOD

Sodomy if done by gay male Americans = BAD

Got it!

[MannyLovitto]

What Mr Mark fails to recall is that as recently as early 2003 in the United States of America, gay Americans could be subject to arrest, prosecution and imprisonment based on what they did privately in their own bedrooms.

Thanks to the Supreme Court of the United States (Lawrence v Texas) that's no longer a concern for most gay American citizens.

However, gay Americans can still be subject to undue discrimination in the workplace, in the housing market and in the area of general civil liberties based solely on what they do privately in their own bedrooms.

When absolute homophobic bigots like Mark are finally set to the side by the US court system, there will be a greatly reduced need for any more gay Americans to publicly demonstrate their demands to be treated with legal and civil rights equality in the USA.

Never fear, Markie. In the coming decade more and more legal and civil rights impediments to gay Americans will fall by the wayside.

So that by the time you are ever able to finally persuade a real live female to accept your own demonic seed and thus create a Little Joe C, you'll have less need to fear that little Joey might actually see two gay American men embrace and kiss each other in public as heterosexual Americans have been doing for centuries.

[Doc Mercer]

amazing the numbers of GOPers "scared" of homosexuals when their
HEROES like Gannon, Mary Cheney, Craig, Foley, Haggard, Smith, etc
are gays

My God ... like Gays are gonna destroy this country any worse than
Bush allready has done

Feeling is the GOPers bitching are all closet gays like Limbaugh ...

[Joe Contrarian]

So you want the courts and state agencies (any vehicle outside of the democratic process, because otherwise you know you will LOSE) to compel the moral majority to give sanction to a destructive immoral minority.

By every measurable standard, the sodomites are destructive for society -- on the micro and macro.

BY EVERY MEASURABLE STANDARD!

I gave MANY specific examples and got absolutely ZERO response(s).

You know why? Because there are no valid intellectually honest responses to sanctioning smut -- that's why.

Undeterred by the forces of reality, nature, the free market and science, the flamboyant narcissistic sodomites and their narcissistic sodomite-enablers (like "Manny") soldier on:

You want to coerce employers into hiring shemales -- even if the clientele is repulsed by the mere thought of being served by...well...never mind.

You want to redefine an institution that has been the bedrock of modern civilization for thousands of years under the auspices of "civil rights." Every modern thinker, philosopher and religious leader, from Jesus to Confucious was wrong about the definition of marriage, because you 1960s flower children say so. Anyone who presents a decent counterargument is labeled a 'hater'. End of debate.

You want the Boy Scouts to be coerced into hiring sodomite counselors (which is the sexual equivalent of any adult male sleeping and changing around young girls: completely INAPPROPRIATE and INDECENT for obvious reasons).

You want to force private businesses, churches, banquet halls, store owners who believe certain lifestyles are perverted, immoral, disgusting, and unhealthy (because they are) to cater to them by the strong arm of the law.

E-Harmony, who's founders targeted a very narrow market got sued and were forced to 'repackage' their brand (Welcome to E-Sodomy!) because some f-a-g felt left out.

You want our children to grow up in an environment of sexual fluidity -- little Sarah marrying a prince is no different than marrying a princess -- and you want such a perverted and psychologically confusing mindset as part of the school curriculum.

You are sick.

You are brainwashed.

You are part of a self-destructive generation that is the most arrogant, selfish, narcissistic and shortsighted in human history.

You have lost any remaining moral bearing and all sense of objectivity and fairness.

Folks, this is the left: THE TYRANNY OF EQUALITY

One cannot possibly encounter a more ignorant or arrogant bunch.

So much for our right to choose (the free market): allowing each individual's God-given moral conscience to guide them.

So much for liberty -- it doesn't exist in the left's Orwellian perverted world.

Every institution of the civilized society -- EVERY SINGLE American value and principle laid down by the Founding Fathers -- is being undermined and under attack...EVERY SINGLE ONE.

I have said this a million times, I will say it again:

The left doesn't love America. The left loves a caricature of America.

May our loving, just Creator (the one in the Declaration of Independence) judge and punish "Manny" and his kind...harshly.

[Doc Mercer]

a destructive immoral minority

HMMMMMM .... ya mean like the following immoral Americans?


Mary Cheney and partner Heather Poe raising a child

Lynne Cheney authoring a Lesbian Novel in 81 called "Sisters"

Mark Foley and UNDERAGE Male pages

Ted Haggard and his male loving sessions with his male meth dealer

Larry Craig and his restroom meetings with cops

Bush 43 and Jeff "Bulldog" Gannon

Bush 43 and Nashville Mayor Victor "Bulldog" Ashe

Rush Limbaugh .. aka Jeff Christie and his very active homo lifestyle in the 70s

The Catholic Church and GOP with a LONG LIST OF SEXUAL ACTIVITY WITH CHILDREN


Yeah ... gosh ... having the Christian Based Right running this country is just what the Doctor orders

[MannyLovitto]

Originally Posted by Joe Contrarian

By every measurable standard, the sodomites are destructive for society -- on the micro and macro.

BY EVERY MEASURABLE STANDARD!

I gave MANY specific examples and got absolutely ZERO response(s).

SHOCKING!

Imagine making such long, detailed multi-thousand word essays detailing your personal revulsion towards gay Americans and not even one reader chimed in with a big Way2Go Mark!

All that work to pour your disdain and vile hatred into such carefully thought out blasts and no one is jumping in with a, "Thanks Joe! I'm a gay American and before I read all your posts in this thread, I thought I was pretty okay. But now I realize I'm a selfish, hedonistic, vile, putrid SODOMITE!

I'm sorry! I repent! I'm am EVIL before your Lord God, Joe! Please, Please give me a chance to become Heterosexual before it's too late!"


yep...totally amazing no one made that Reply

[MannyLovitto]

[quote=Joe Contrarian;2162293]

You want our children to grow up...[quote]

Ahem...

As has been painfully noted numerous times in past few years, Mark. Until such time as you can finally convince a real live adult female to accept your demon seed, the proper pronoun for your above sentence would be "your".

Now, back to your rant....

[MannyLovitto]

Originally Posted by Joe Contrarian

May our loving, just Creator (the one in the Declaration of Independence) judge and punish "Manny" ...harshly.

Not gonna happen.

I am a Child of God

And Jesus loves ALL the little children, just like we used to sing in Sunday School way the hell back in the day

[MannyLovitto]

And since we're talking about one of my most blessed Master Teachers, until you can prove to me, JoeC, that Jesus Christ himself was heterosexual, I think it would be safer for your eternal salvation to go easy on defaming your fellow gay Canadians and my fellow gay Americans.

[Doc Mercier]

Manny, Joe C~ dominates you in everything in life. Quit challenging a guy who is far superior to you.

[Doc Mercer]

Manny

Got to love it

Joey C must have recruited a New Canadian Mountie and in my honor they
have a handle "very similar" to mine ....


My following continues to grow

[4625]

Originally Posted by Joe Contrarian

I gave MANY specific examples and got absolutely ZERO response(s).

You know why? Because there are no valid intellectually honest responses to sanctioning smut -- that's why.

Uh. . .I regret to inform you that there's probably a more accurate (though undoubtedly hurtful to your self-esteem) reason that your posts don't really draw any serious responses. . .Rather than compliment you on your tinfoil hat, most posters merely chuckle and move on. . .

[MannyLovitto]

Originally Posted by Doc Mercier

Manny, Joe C~ dominates you in everything in life. Quit challenging a guy who is far superior to you.

WW, it's not easy always coming in second place to a Big Brave Canadian like JoeC....but nonetheless I muddle on

heh

[Joe Contrarian]

Originally Posted by 4625

Uh. . .I regret to inform you that there's probably a more accurate (though undoubtedly hurtful to your self-esteem) reason that your posts don't really draw any serious responses. . .Rather than compliment you on your tinfoil hat, most posters merely chuckle and move on. . .

What's the matter, Mr. Fact Checker? I thought you were going to hold my feet to the fire? Were you not able to find a single fallacy or misstatement?

Awww....too bad.

Yes, they "chuckle and move on", 4625.

They "chuckle and move on" so much -- yet my threads get hundreds or thousands of views (unlike yours, Road Fraud's, "Manny"s, and Doc's).

You libs don't have a clue, do you?

Responsibility and liberalism are mutually exclusive. To a liberal, sex is a loveless, passionless, emotionless, random carnal act with no more significance than dogs coupling on the front lawn.

I'd sooner rape a porcupine than screw a sodomite or sodomite-enabler.

As a matter of fact, I'd rather be waterboarded. At least with waterboarding, my dick won't fall off.

[Joe Contrarian]

Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

Isaiah 13:11 And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.

Woe onto the narcissistic, poisonous, vacuous, Marxist godless left, indeed.

If not this world, then in the next.

[MannyLovitto]

Originally Posted by Joe Contrarian

They "chuckle and move on" so much -- yet my threads get hundreds or thousands of views

I'd sooner rape a porcupine than screw a sodomite or sodomite-enabler.

*You have threads at EOG with thousands of views?

*I'm willing to lay -150 that you'll have sex with a porcupine before you next have consensual sex with a real live human female who doesn't demand a cash payment on the dresser beforehand.

[MannyLovitto]

Couple of posters from Mark's bedroom....

[railbird]

Joe,

Why the headline Judeo-Christian? Judiaism is a cult. If a Jew is not a messianic Jew they are going to hell. Anyone who is not born Christian is going to hell.

[4625]

Originally Posted by Joe Contrarian

What's the matter, Mr. Fact Checker? I thought you were going to hold my feet to the fire? Were you not able to find a single fallacy or misstatement?

Haha. . .If you fixated on something I posted which leads you to imagine that I believe anything you've ever posted deserves any "fact checking," then I apologize for "creating" that misconception. For clarity's sake, let me assure you that nothing you've ever posted has been serious or rational enough to merit any checking--fact or otherwise--whatsoever at any time. . .

[4625]

Originally Posted by railbird

Joe,

Why the headline Judeo-Christian? Judiaism is a cult. If a Jew is not a messianic Jew they are going to hell. Anyone who is not born Christian is going to hell.

Haha. . .There's an old saying: "when you lie with the dogs, you're gonna get fleas." The corollary here is: "When you preach ignorant hatred to the mouth-breathing klansman wannabees, you're gonna have to deal with mouth-breathing ignorance."

You will therefore have to explain what "Judeo-Christian" means to your brownshirt starter kit.

[railbird]

Originally Posted by 4625

Haha. . .There's an old saying: "when you lie with the dogs, you're gonna get fleas." The corollary here is: "When you preach ignorant hatred to the mouth-breathing klansman wannabees, you're gonna have to deal with mouth-breathing ignorance."

You will therefore have to explain what "Judeo-Christian" means to your brownshirt starter kit.

I know what the phrase means 46. There is also a Judeo-Christian-Muslim phrase. I dont care for it. Jews are like Muslims they both are going to hell without Jesus.

[MannyLovitto]

Originally Posted by railbird

Joe,

Why the headline Judeo-Christian? Judiaism is a cult. If a Jew is not a messianic Jew they are going to hell. Anyone who is not born Christian is going to hell.

I'm not anti-semitic!

Really! I'm not! I swear it!

I just believe all my Jewish friends are going straight down to the dark place....seventh level...on high broil

Sincerely

Railbird

[Doc Mercer]

Fantastic ....

the Pat Robertson's of this forum who support GOP homosexuality and illegal
wars "educating" folks on who is going to hell


Great .... that means I will get to bunk with Bush 43, Rove and Cheney

[festeringZit]

Originally Posted by railbird

Joe,

Why the headline Judeo-Christian? Judiaism is a cult. If a Jew is not a messianic Jew they are going to hell. Anyone who is not born Christian is going to hell.

Railbird,

#1. You can't even spell the word right, it's Judaism
#2. It is *not* a cult, it is a world religion, big difference
#3. People are not born Christian

[festeringZit]

Originally Posted by railbird

I know what the phrase means 46. There is also a Judeo-Christian-Muslim phrase. I dont care for it. Jews are like Muslims they both are going to hell without Jesus.

Interesting. So Railbird, I assume you believe that all Jews in the Old
Testament are now burning in hell: Abraham, Moses, Adam, Isaac, Noah,
Jacob, Joseph... I also assume that you rip out Hebrews 11 from your
Bible?


¹Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see. ²This is what the ancients were commended for. ³By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible. ⁴By faith Abel offered God a better sacrifice than Cain did. By faith he was commended as a righteous man, when God spoke well of his offerings. And by faith he still speaks, even though he is dead.
⁵By faith Enoch was taken from this life, so that he did not experience death; he could not be found, because God had taken him away. For before he was taken, he was commended as one who pleased God. ⁶And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.
⁷By faith Noah, when warned about things not yet seen, in holy fear built an ark to save his family. By his faith he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness that comes by faith.
⁸By faith Abraham, when called to go to a place he would later receive as his inheritance, obeyed and went, even though he did not know where he was going. ⁹By faith he made his home in the promised land like a stranger in a foreign country; he lived in tents, as did Isaac and Jacob, who were heirs with him of the same promise. ¹⁰For he was looking forward to the city with foundations, whose architect and builder is God.
¹¹By faith Abraham, even though he was past age—and Sarah herself was barren—was enabled to become a father because he^[a]considered him faithful who had made the promise. ¹²And so from this one man, and he as good as dead, came descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as countless as the sand on the seashore.
¹³All these people were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised; they only saw them and welcomed them from a distance. And they admitted that they were aliens and strangers on earth. ¹⁴People who say such things show that they are looking for a country of their own. ¹⁵If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. ¹⁶Instead, they were longing for a better country—a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them.
¹⁷By faith Abraham, when God tested him, offered Isaac as a sacrifice. He who had received the promises was about to sacrifice his one and only son, ¹⁸even though God had said to him, "It is through Isaac that your offspring^[b] will be reckoned."^{[c] 19}Abraham reasoned that God could raise the dead, and figuratively speaking, he did receive Isaac back from death.
²⁰By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau in regard to their future.
²¹By faith Jacob, when he was dying, blessed each of Joseph's sons, and worshiped as he leaned on the top of his staff.
²²By faith Joseph, when his end was near, spoke about the exodus of the Israelites from Egypt and gave instructions about his bones.
²³By faith Moses' parents hid him for three months after he was born, because they saw he was no ordinary child, and they were not afraid of the king's edict.
²⁴By faith Moses, when he had grown up, refused to be known as the son of Pharaoh's daughter. ²⁵He chose to be mistreated along with the people of God rather than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a short time. ²⁶He regarded disgrace for the sake of Christ as of greater value than the treasures of Egypt, because he was looking ahead to his reward. ²⁷By faith he left Egypt, not fearing the king's anger; he persevered because he saw him who is invisible. ²⁸By faith he kept the Passover and the sprinkling of blood, so that the destroyer of the firstborn would not touch the firstborn of Israel.
²⁹By faith the people passed through the Red Sea^[d] as on dry land; but when the Egyptians tried to do so, they were drowned.
³⁰By faith the walls of Jericho fell, after the people had marched around them for seven days.
³¹By faith the prostitute Rahab, because she welcomed the spies, was not killed with those who were disobedient.^[e]
32And what more shall I say? I do not have time to tell about Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, David, Samuel and the prophets, ³³who through faith conquered kingdoms, administered justice, and gained what was promised; who shut the mouths of lions, ³⁴quenched the fury of the flames, and escaped the edge of the sword; whose weakness was turned to strength; and who became powerful in battle and routed foreign armies. ³⁵Women received back their dead, raised to life again. Others were tortured and refused to be released, so that they might gain a better resurrection. ³⁶Some faced jeers and flogging, while still others were chained and put in prison. ³⁷They were stoned^[f]; they were sawed in two; they were put to death by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated— ³⁸the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, and in caves and holes in the ground.
³⁹These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised. ⁴⁰God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect.

[Joe Contrarian]

Originally Posted by 4625

Haha. . .If you fixated on something I posted which leads you to imagine that I believe anything you've ever posted deserves any "fact checking," then I apologize for "creating" that misconception. For clarity's sake, let me assure you that nothing you've ever posted has been serious or rational enough to merit any checking--fact or otherwise--whatsoever at any time. . .

http://forums.eog.com/2081784-post21.html

[Jon Stewart]

There is nothing better on forums to the see the Right quoting the Bible ... have any of them actually read the Insides of a Bible? ..... we know damn well Bush never did because he would just sit by that phone and wait for the order from God regarding which Muslim country to attack .... and I love watching Palin on tape telling us all "how Iraq is God's work ..." ..... you want a fucked up human being? ..... THROW RELIGION INTO THE HEAD OF A REPUBLICAN .... GUARANTEE YA THAT WILL BE ONE FUCKED UP INDIVIDUAL

[Joe Contrarian]

Originally Posted by 4625

Haha. . .There's an old saying: "when you lie with the dogs, you're gonna get fleas." The corollary here is: "When you preach ignorant hatred to the mouth-breathing klansman wannabees, you're gonna have to deal with mouth-breathing ignorance."

You will therefore have to explain what "Judeo-Christian" means to your brownshirt starter kit.

Wrong again, Mr. Fact Checker.

I don't debate theology no matter how loony because theology does not impact society.

For example, if you want to believe humans were seeded by aliens, go right ahead. I think that's awesome and welcome diversity of thought. Who am I to question your personal beliefs?

I don't judge individual faith and personal values.

I do judge actions and behavior.

Meaning...

I only jump into the ring when the loony left act on one of their wacky religious beliefs (GoreBull Warming, "social justice" to give another two examples) trying to impose their demented beliefs on the rest of us.

As I have begun to document, there is absolutely no question the militant sodomite agenda is a direct threat to human dignity and your individual liberty -- even though the entire facade is being perverted (the way they pervert everything else) as the exact opposite: under the guise of "civil rights." (That sound you hear is Martin Luther King Jr. rolling over in his grave.)

This is why freedom-loving Americans must oppose and fight this sick, vile, deviant cultural and political movement at every level.

By imposing their perverted values on society, they are forcing YOU to choose:

LIBERTY (JUDEO-CHRISTIAN TRADITION)

VS.

TYRANNY (MILITANT SODOMITE AGENDA)

[Joe Contrarian]

May 19, 2009
Psychiatric Times.
APA 2009

http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/disp.../10168/1415037

Gender Identity Disorder: Has Accepted Practice Caused Harm?

Lois Wingerson

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As transgender activists protested outside the American Psychiatric Association (APA) meeting, speakers at the meeting were presenting on the same topic: gender identity disorder (GID). Some of their words would add clinical weight to the political slogans.

Some of the speakers are activists themselves, including Rebecca Allison, MD, cardiologist who is transgender, widely published author Sarah Hoffman, whose son is gender variant, and Hewlett-Packard engineer Kelley Winters, PhD, founder of GID Reform Advocates. Winters¹ has called on the APA to use the DSM-V revision to affirm that “in the absence of dysphoria, gender identity and expression that vary from assigned birth sex are not, in themselves, grounds for diagnosing a mental disorder.”

Some mental health professionals made the same point in their own presentations. Sidney W. Ecker, MD, a former clinical professor of urology at the Georgetown University School of Medicine, Washington, DC, and chief of urology at the Washington DC VA Medical Center, was scheduled to review studies documenting that factors that influence gender identity are present before birth. While social and hormonal influences act later during childhood, he wrote, “gender identity is determined before and persists despite these effects.”²

Diane Ehrensaft, PhD, a professor at the Wright Institute in Berkeley, Calif, had a message more difficult for psychiatrists to hear. “The mental health profession has been consistently doing harm to children who are not ‘gender normal,’ and they need to retrain,” she told Psychiatric Times. Ehrensaft has specialized in therapy for foster children as well as for children with gender issues.

When she trained in the late 1960s, Ehrensaft said, the attitude of psychiatrists who taught her about such matters was that “children with gender identity issues other than normative are confused and are suffering from dysphoria” and need to be reoriented. That is “diametrically opposed” to what has been found since, she added.

To document the harm that has been done, she cited a January 2009 article in Pediatrics that found homosexual and bisexual young adults to have highly significant increases in a history of depression, illegal drug use, unprotected sex, and attempted suicide if their parents had rejected their sexual orientation.³ That study, in turn, cites numerous others over the prior decade with similar results, although none had previously examined parental rejection.

Ehrensaft said she would advise psychiatrists at her presentation that their role today is to help children understand their gender identity—which may not be what the birth certificate says—and to support rather than pathologize or malign their parents. “There’s more evidence of harm now than even 10 years ago,” she added, “and also a developing field of practice that clearly demonstrates means of helping these kids.”

Protestors are also focusing on the fact that the DSM-V Task Force on Sexual and Gender Identity Disorders is being led by Kenneth Zucker, PhD, psychologist-in-chief and head of the gender identity service in the child, youth, and family program at the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health as well as professor in the departments of psychiatry and psychology at the University of Toronto. Zucker has been on the record as saying that parents and clinicians should work to socialize very young children who behave in ways discordant with their physical gender so that they come to identify with it—but that teens who have not done so should be helped to adjust to their discordant gender identity.

A program at Children’s National Medical Center in Washington, DC, takes a different approach, offering in-person and online support groups to help families adjust to and help their children work through their own gender identity issues. Edgardo Menvielle, MD, MSHS, director of the program, was curious whether children seen in Washington have different mental health profiles than kids involved with the Toronto program. Based on Child Behavior Checklist ratings, he reported that the Washington youth showed “less pathological tendencies,” suggesting that peer support may “lessen manifestations of pathology in the child.”⁴

Speaking by telephone before the conference, Menvielle hastened to distance himself from that conclusion. “The implications are not very clear,” he said. “We’re dealing with a population that appears healthier overall, but it could be that we attract different families.”

Menvielle also said there is “a lot of anger about these issues,” and added, “I hope I don’t receive any tomatoes.”

Psychologist Ehrensaft said she’s eager to see studies that compare adults who received treatments intended to “normalize” their gender identities as children with those treated in more accepting environments. Meanwhile, she said, there is a move afoot to change the membership of the Task Force so that it is “more balanced.” She added that she hopes the protests do succeed in reorienting psychiatrists’ thinking about GID.

“We got homosexuality out of the DSM because of protests at the APA,” she pointed out. “Now it’s time to do the same with GID.”
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And there you have it -- straight from the sodomite's ass.

They aren't even shy about admitting it:

Homosexuality is no longer considered the obvious MENTAL DISORDER it is because of their "protests" -- NOT medical science!

You've been brainwashed!

You've been lied to!

You've been taken for idiots!

You've been screwed by the militant sodomite agenda!

And now...next on the list:

"Gender identity"?



Folks, do you understand how sick these people are?

Do you understand what this deviant propaganda is doing to the civilized society, our personal liberties and the mental health of our children?

[Jon Stewart]

Help me out ... I know over at RX that Contrarian is a Canadian and he is yapping about "freedom loving" Americans?

[Joe Contrarian]

Hey Jon Leibowitz (aka Doc Mercer),

WAKE UP YOU DRONE!

This is pure activism masquerading as "science" and "civil rights".

Google NARTH and find out how the APA is simply the home of perverts wanting to have sex with children -- the ultimate militant sodomite agenda.

[4625]

Originally Posted by Joe Contrarian

http://forums.eog.com/2081784-post21.html

Ding, ding ding!! . . .Haha, you point to yet another post where you had your hat handed to you because of your lack of truthfulness?? What actually, does such an example prove. . .I will offer you three guesses. . .

[4625]

Originally Posted by Joe Contrarian

Wrong again, Mr. Fact Checker.

I don't debate theology no matter how loony because theology does not impact society.

For example, if you want to believe humans were seeded by aliens, go right ahead. I think that's awesome and welcome diversity of thought. Who am I to question your personal beliefs?

I don't judge individual faith and personal values.

I do judge actions and behavior.

Meaning...

I only jump into the ring when the loony left act on one of their wacky religious beliefs (GoreBull Warming, "social justice" to give another two examples) trying to impose their demented beliefs on the rest of us.

As I have begun to document, there is absolutely no question the militant sodomite agenda is a direct threat to human dignity and your individual liberty -- even though the entire facade is being perverted (the way they pervert everything else) as the exact opposite: under the guise of "civil rights." (That sound you hear is Martin Luther King Jr. rolling over in his grave.)

This is why freedom-loving Americans must oppose and fight this sick, vile, deviant cultural and political movement at every level.

By imposing their perverted values on society, they are forcing YOU to choose:

LIBERTY (JUDEO-CHRISTIAN TRADITION)

VS.

TYRANNY (MILITANT SODOMITE AGENDA)

Reading comprehension is important. I don't see any relationship between my quoted portion and the rambling diatribe posted that purports to be some sort of response. Moreover, while there are hints of the desire to engage in wacky font use, the obvious restraint imposed leaves the thread with fewer zany font colors than we have come to expect. . .