Society must choose: The Sodomites or Judeo-Christian Tradition

[MannyLovitto]

Quit flirting, Mark.

You reduce your ability to "change minds" via your politics posts in a sports handicapping web forum when you burn unneccesary minutes flirting with me, a flaming heterosexual.

Now get back to work and find more copy/paste jobs detailing your fascination with homos and pedos.

[Mr. Sanderson]

Originally Posted by Joe Contrarian

Why do you take psychedelic drugs, Steve?

Why do you write bad checks, mow lawns and peddle Amway junk to pay for those psychedelic drugs, Steve?

Why do you talk to dead people, Steve?

Why are you a member of multiple cults, Steve?

Why are you a militant sodomite activist, Steve?

Why do you have a cyber mancrush on me, Steve?

^^^^ Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you Doc Mercer ^^^^^

the right wing, Canadian homosexual Doc Mercer, that is.

[MannyLovitto]

heh...

With Mercer gone, if I were not here to tweak on "joe's" hyperbolic posts, he'd be almost all alone.

I can't let that happen. Dudes with bipolar brains get really edgy when they're all alone, in the middle of the night....pacing around an otherwise empty one bedroom apartment.

[Scott L]

Happy 4th Joe / Barman / Sanderson

[ZZ CREAM]

[quote=MannyLovitto;2236332]heh...

With Mercer gone, if I were not here to tweak on "joe's" hyperbolic posts, he'd be almost all alone.

I can't let that happen. Dudes with bipolar brains get really edgy when they're all alone, in the middle of the night....pacing around an otherwise empty one bedroom apartment.......IN MISSISSAUGA???????????????? OR BRAMPTON????????????????

[Joe Contrarian]

Gay rights campaigner led a double life as leader of paedophile ring that carried out a catalogue of child abuse

By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 11:57 AM on 08th May 2009

A paedophile ring has been smashed after eight men were found guilty of a horrifying catalogue of more than 50 child pornography and abuse charges.

Among the crimes was a shocking sexual attack carried out on a three-month-old baby boy by an executive adviser on child sex issues.

James Rennie, chief executive of a publicly-funded gay rights group, was one of the men exposed yesterday as members of Scotland's biggest paedophile ring.

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Rennie, 38, molested the toddler son of unsuspecting friends - a little boy he had been trusted to babysit - recording the abuse and sharing it with other perverts.

In the course of the police investigation, the boy's parents were forced to watch a video of their baby son being violated by Rennie.

Last night, after the eight men were found guilty of a string of child sex charges at the High Court in Edinburgh, the child's parents reacted with disgust.

They said: 'For over 15 years, James Rennie seemed the closest of family friends and it is hard to put into words the extent of the betrayal he has exacted upon us.'

During their investigations, police recovered tens of thousands of still and moving images of the most vile child abuse.

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Police sources revealed yesterday that the activities of 70 other men around the UK with links to the case are being investigated.

More than 35 people have been arrested or been subject to enforcement action. Two investigations are continuing in Scotland.

One of the most worrying aspects of the case is the way Rennie was able to reach a position where he could influence Executive policy on child sexuality.

A trained teacher, Rennie became the boss of LGBT Youth Scotland, a publicly-funded support group for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender young people.

He took on the £40,000 a year role when the group was set up in 2003 and became the Executive's most important and influential adviser on gay issues affecting children.

Under his leadership, the group backed proposals to allow gay adoption. As well as appearing in the Scottish parliament, he was invited to a Royal Garden Party and to Downing Street.



Yesterday, Rennie, from Edinburgh, was found guilty of indecently abusing the baby boy. The abuse began when the child was three months old and continued for several years. Rennie filmed and photographed himself committing the abuse, sent the images to others and allowed another man to listen on the phone while he molested the child.

He allowed the boy, whom he called his 'nephew', to be abused by another paedophile and also offered him to other deviants in a series of emails.

When his home was raided in December 2007, Rennie had gone to the trouble of hiding computer hard drives, discs and CDs in a gap next to the water tank in his kitchen.

Between these storage devices and his laptop computer, he was found to be in possession of thousands of images, many of them at the most extreme level of the scale.

Rennie carried out his vile activities as part of a Scottish paedophile ring swapping images of child pornography on the internet.



He was suspended as soon as LGBT Youth Scotland was told of his arrest in December 2007 and resigned soon afterwards.

Last night, a spokesman for LGBT Youth Scotland, which received £1.1million in 2008 from the Executive, councils and health boards, said: 'We are appalled by the abuse and exploitation of children by James Rennie, and wholeheartedly welcome his conviction. Our immediate thoughts are with the children and families who have been directly, and indirectly, abused by him and the other co-accused also convicted.

'We had no suspicion whatsoever of the crimes James Rennie was committing. He was obviously skilled at hiding his actions and adept at deceiving people. There is no suggestion James Rennie directly threatened the safety of young people accessing our services.'

Last night the Executive said that it would continue to fund LGBT.

When he was arrested, Rennie had a steady boyfriend, but trawled the internet looking for gay sex dates.

He also used the internet to meet other paedophiles, including Neil Strachan, a child molester who was jailed for three years at Edinburgh Sheriff Court in 1997 for abusing a boy of between five and seven.

Strachan, 41, joined Rennie for a sex session with Rennie's 'nephew' at his flat in Meadowbank when the boy was between one and three.

Rennie then boasted about the encounter to another paedophile, Lachlan Anderson, 51, from Cumbernauld, Dunbartonshire. Anderson is currently serving a 20-month sentence after being caught with a collection of child pornography, including images of Rennie abusing the child. He was brought from jail to give evidence at the trial.

Strachan was found guilty of attempting to sodomise a different 18-month-old toddler on the night of Hogmanay 2005 at his flat in the Dalry area of Edinburgh.

Last night, the boy's mother said: ' The anguish I feel towards Mr Strachan is indescribable.

'I feel that no matter what punishment is given to Mr Strachan it will never be able to compensate for the hurt, devastation and great deal of stress brought to me and my family.

'Mr Strachan used and abused our trust in order to satisfy his and others' sick needs.'

Strachan's 23-year-old boyfriend Colin Slaven was cleared of taking part in the sex act, which was photographed and sent to Rennie.

Rennie involved John Milligan, 40, in his sick acts by allowing him to listen to the baby boy being abused.

Milligan also discussed getting his hands on the child - and passed on images of Rennie's abuse to others.

The paedophile ring was uncovered when photos of naked boys were found on Strachan's computer. He handed it in for repair at a company in England in 2007.

A computer engineer found one indecent image of a child on the machine and police were called in.

An examination by Northumbria Police revealed other images.

The inquiry moved to Edinburgh, where Operation Algebra was set up in October 2007 by Lothian and Borders Police.

Detective Superintendent Allan Jones, senior investigating officer in Operation Algebra, said of the men: 'Many of them wouldn't stand out from a general member of the public; but in the background they lead this double life, looking at some of the most vile material you would ever care to imagine.

'Quite what motivates them and why they take this course of action I really don't know. What I do know is we can't be forgiving of it and we've got to pursue it to the nth degree to make sure that this material is stopped.'

A jury found Rennie, Strachan, Milligan, Ross Webber, 27, and Craig Boath, 24, guilty of plotting to arrange access to children to carry out acts of gross sexual abuse. It is the first time a conspiracy charge has been used successfully in Scotland to convict perverts.

Church bell ringer Neil Campbell, 46, was cleared of that charge. But all six, along with Slaven and John Murphy, 44, were found guilty of charges relating to child pornography.

Having been convicted of actual physical abuse of children, Rennie and Strachan face a possible life sentence.

Prosecutor Dorothy Bain, QC, asked for 'a full risk assessment' which would allow the court to impose an order for lifelong restriction - under which a judge imposes a minimum sentence but the accused are only freed when the parole board considers it safe to do so.

They then remain under strict supervision for the rest of their lives.

Judge Lord Bannatyne said: 'I am going to go down that route and investigate an order for lifelong restriction for both these accused.'

All eight men were remanded in custody to await sentence.

[Joe Contrarian]

Wow, gay men involved in pedophilia? Who knew?

I mean, the militant sodomites keep telling us it is "natural" to be gay, right?

FACT: Homosexuality and pedophilia are inextricably linked.

Betcha Andrew Sullivan has child porn on his computer.

[4625]

It seems Manny is right on the money. Joey does have some sort of fixation on kiddie sex crimes and gay men. . .

[Joe Contrarian]

Originally Posted by 4625

It seems Manny is right on the money. Joey does have some sort of fixation on kiddie sex crimes and gay men. . .

I speak the truth -- while the EOG's perverts keep trying to legitimize and normalize a vile, devious act by posting idiotic articles on gay penguins...

[4625]

Some zany smiley faces and multi-colored fonts would really add some pizzazz to the comedy show here. . .

[Joe Contrarian]

Homosexuality/pedophilia is "comedy"?

I don't understand why society has permitted all this to happen. (Okay, maybe I do...)

The media, academia, the clergy, libraries, and the teaching profession were slowly but purposefully infiltrated by the militant sodomite agenda, starting about 40 years ago.

The vast majority understand right from wrong -- yet are afraid to be labeled narrow-minded or parochial.

And so society permits this demonic activity because all that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

Modern gay culture is an abomination -- a dark chapter in human history.

The idea that society now encourages kids to be gay is a sentence to eternal darkness, disease and death.

The Word of God doesn't mince words exposing this evil perversion -- and we shouldn't either.

[ZZ CREAM]

This is what we like to call a canard perpetuated by the right to keep 'real' issues from being explored and worked on. God created homosexuality right alongside everything else. God only cares about us being nice and this is where Republicans fail and fail miserably.

[MannyLovitto]

Well fellas, there we have it. Yet another thumbnail shot of the brain of Mark L**uel in Toronto Canada.

18 hours of busy posts replete with giant phunny photos, dancing and puking smileys, a pathetic marking out to the Alaska's Biggest Loser and of course numerous posts pulled from his voluminus computer files and bookmarked sites dealing with homosexuals and kiddie bangers.

And some people still wonder why "joeC" can't establish a healthy relationship with a real live woman even as he enters his 30s.

[Joe Contrarian]

Originally Posted by ZZ CREAM

This is what we like to call a canard perpetuated by the right to keep 'real' issues from being explored and worked on. God created homosexuality right alongside everything else. God only cares about us being nice and this is where Republicans fail and fail miserably.

Are you serious?

Which God do you believe in?

The same perverted little voice Steve Heath takes his cues from every time he fries millions brain cells snorting/inhaling/shooting up psychedelic drugs?

Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."1

Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"

1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, ¹⁰nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, ²⁷and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. ²⁸And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

Sorry ZZ, the Bible is unequivocal in it's condemnation of this sick, vile, deviant behavior.

Here's another one of my favorites:

"Woe to those who call evil good,

and good evil;

Who put darkness for light,

and light for darkness....

Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes,

And prudent in their own sight!"

Isaiah 5:2-21

Woe onto those touchy-feely leftists who practice and preach moral relativism.

If not in this lifetime, then absolutely the next.

[4625]

Thankfully, we here in the United States are not governed by some dude's interpretation of one of the religious books. Rather, the magnificent Constitution is our bedrock document; the text is readily available online, even for foreigners. . .Next. . .

[Joe Contrarian]

Originally Posted by 4625

Thankfully, we here in the United States are not governed by some dude's interpretation of one of the religious books. Rather, the magnificent Constitution is our bedrock document;

And the Constitution and original spirit of the Founders was inspired by which set of values? Here's a hint:

Next. . .

Indeed.

[MannyLovitto]

Dunno about up in "JoeC's" native country of Canada, but in my hoods, there's a word for guys who have reached 30 years old and who are never seen in the company of a real live adult female.

And it's not "sodomite".

It's Nancy.

Mayhaps we should make that Markie's new gloss.

Nancy Contrarian

got a nice ring to it

[ZZ CREAM]

Originally Posted by Joe Contrarian

Are you serious?

Which God do you believe in?

The same perverted little voice Steve Heath takes his cues from every time he fries millions brain cells snorting/inhaling/shooting up psychedelic drugs?





Sorry ZZ, the Bible is unequivocal in it's condemnation of this sick, vile, deviant behavior.

Here's another one of my favorites:

"Woe to those who call evil good,

and good evil;


Who put darkness for light,


and light for darkness....


Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes,


And prudent in their own sight!"


Isaiah 5:2-21

Woe onto those touchy-feely leftists who practice and preach moral relativism.

If not in this lifetime, then absolutely the next.

Jesus loved everybody, not just heterosexuals. Jesus is nice! You, Joe should learn from Jesus and his teachings of love and forgiveness, as we all should learn. Good luck Joe, I think you're gonna need it.

[Joe Contrarian]

Originally Posted by ZZ CREAM

Jesus loved everybody, not just heterosexuals. Jesus is nice! You, Joe should learn from Jesus and his teachings of love and forgiveness, as we all should learn. Good luck Joe, I think you're gonna need it.

Do you have a Biblical verse to back up your touchy-feely leftist drivel?

Jesus hated this putrid sinful lifestyle even more than I do:

1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, ¹⁰nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, ²⁷and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. ²⁸And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

Translation: There's no "gay pride" in heaven. If you're a defiant sodomite, don't bother asking for forgiveness. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. Into Lucifer's dungeon you go.

As a civilized society, we will pay a very heavy price if we continue to defy the will of God.

[Joe Contrarian]

Study: Childhood Sexual Abuse Often a Factor in Sexual Disorientation

By Bob Ellis on July 7th, 2009
Last week when I discussed the case of Frank Lombard, Associate director of Duke University’s Center for Health Policy, who molested his adopted 5-year-old son and offered his son to other homosexuals for molestation, I also touched on the higher molestation rates of children by homosexuals.

Judith Reisman, president of the Institute for Media Education, cites this research, as does a study by Dr. Gene Abel, director of the Behavioral Medicine Institute in Atlanta, which found that homosexuals sexually molest young boys with an incidence five times greater than the molestation rate of girls. Dr. Able’s study also found that 150 boys are molested by one male homosexual offender, compared to 19.8 girls by heterosexual offenders.

I also mentioned that homosexual men have been molested as children at much higher rates than heterosexual men (35% versus 4% in one study).

One of many important aspects of this finding is that, while childhood abuse does not automatically mean the child will grow up to perpetuate the abuse, it has been long known that most molesters were in fact molested themselves as children. Obviously it is a terrible cycle that should be broken where ever possible.

The folks from NAM and AidsMap in London published an article last week which examined the connection between childhood sexual abuse and adulthood risky sex and AIDS transmission:

The study lasted for four years and included a total of 4244 men. These men were recruited to the study in six US cities. All had recently had anal sex with another man, and all the men were HIV-negative at baseline. The men were randomised to receive a behavioural HIV prevention intervention or standard HIV prevention counselling. Every six months they were tested for HIV and provided details about their recent sexual behaviour.

To ascertain if an individual had a history of childhood sexual abuse they were asked on entry to the study to say if they had had a sexual experience before the age of 13 with an individual five years or more older than themselves; and/or if they had a sexual experience between the ages of 13 and 17 with an individual who was ten or more years older.

Of the 4244 individuals in the study, 1686 (40%) reported childhood sexual abuse. There were 258 HIV infections during the course of the study, a rate of 2.1 per 100 person years.

Notice that all of the individuals in this study were practicing homosexual men. Of the 4,244 homosexual men in this study 40% of them reported childhood sexual abuse. And as this relates to AIDS transmission, we are reminded of the startling statistics from the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) regarding AIDS transmission: 72% of male AIDS cases are associated with homosexual conduct.

While the incidence of risky behavior and AIDS transmission is interesting and seems indicative of the mental health issues associated with victims of molestation, it is ultimately the percentage of homosexual men who report childhood sexual abuse.

The causes of homosexual behavior are complicated and the subject of considerable debate. This debate is made all the more convoluted by the propaganda thrown about by homosexual activists and their apologists who would have us believe that an immoral and unnatural sexual behavior is completely normal and legitimate.

But before the world of clinical science became so confused with politically correct misinformation, indications were that homosexual behavior often resulted from childhood molestation, relational issues with a mother or father or both, and similar circumstances. We have historically seen that for homosexual men, childhood sexual trauma is a very common factor , and for homosexual women, childhood sexual trauma is almost universal, though sometimes later sexual trauma can be a factor.

Essentially, the evidence is strong that homosexuality is not a “sexual orientation” as homosexual activists want us to believe, but rather a “sexual disorientation.”

What does it mean to be disoriented? The dictionary defines it as “to cause to lose bearings : displace from normal position or relationship b: to cause to lose the sense of time, place, or identity.”

When we are driving or flying or walking in the woods and we become disoriented, we enter a state in which we are unsure about where we are, where we should be going, and how to get there.

Since we need only look at our body’s sex organs to tell quite obviously that we were created to function heterosexually (not to mention that only 2.9% of the population is homosexual), it becomes quite clear that any orientation other than heterosexual is a disorientation.

It seems more than fair to say that, due to childhood sexual trauma, relational problems with one or more parent, or some other issue, the person has become disoriented about their sexuality.

As anyone who has become disoriented knows, one can become re-oriented with some effort and frequently some help from others.

There are those who, for whatever reason, come to enjoy disorientation.

When someone drinks to excess or takes strong drugs, these have a disorienting effect, often leaving a person unsteady on their feet, not in firm command of their surroundings and how they should be acting. Often people come to like this state of disorientation, seeking to maintain that state by frequent indulgence in intoxicating substances. They, too, often need help in realizing the dangers of remaining in this disoriented state.

The similarities between a physically disoriented person and a sexually disoriented person (i.e. one not correctly oriented to their obviously heterosexual purpose) are quite striking when you think about it.

When homosexuals sometimes say they were created that way, that their “sexual orientation” is homosexual, they are incorrect. One who insists their proper orientation is homosexual is akin to the drunk who says with slurred speech, “I’m not drrunk.” Their orientation is obviously heterosexual (their bodies tell us that), but they have become disoriented as to their true nature and purpose.

And like any disoriented person, they can change. If they really want to.

So don’t be fooled by this deception. Help them by insisting on the truth and pointing those who are disoriented toward that truth. It is to their ultimate benefit, and to those around them.

[Joe Contrarian]

Looks like the voters of Iowa will be giving the Supreme Court the same message California voters gave their kangaroos in black robes.

Question: What the hell is wrong with that 27%?

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Poll: 67 percent of Iowa voters want marriage amendment on ballot

Posted on Jul 14, 2009 | by Michael Foust DES MOINES, Iowa (BP)

In the first statewide survey since the Iowa Supreme Court's landmark "gay marriage" ruling, a new poll shows that just over two-thirds of the state's voters support placing a constitutional marriage amendment on the ballot.

The survey of 500 registered voters by Voter/Consumer Research was released Monday, more than three months after the court made the state the first in the heartland to recognize "marriages" between homosexuals.

The proposed marriage amendment -- proposed immediately after the ruling by state legislative Republicans but blocked by Democratic leaders -- likely will be an issue in next year's gubernatorial and General Assembly races. One candidate for the GOP nomination, Bob Vander Plaats, has pledged to make it a central theme of his campaign.

In the poll, 67 percent of voters support placing an amendment on the ballot while 27 percent believe the issue of "gay marriage" is best decided by the state Supreme Court.

The poll asked, "The Iowa Supreme Court has ruled gay marriages can legally be conducted in the state. Whether you agree or disagree with the decision, do you think Iowa voters should have the chance to vote on a traditional marriage amendment to the constitution or is the issue best decided by the Supreme Court?"

The survey was conducted for TheIowaRepublican.com website. Among Republicans surveyed, 87 percent favor putting the amendment on the ballot.

Bryan English, a spokesman for the Iowa Family Policy Center, told the website that the poll numbers should open eyes.

"Public opinion on marriage is consistently a 65-70 percent issue, and the numbers tell us that Iowans want the right to vote on the Iowa Marriage Amendment," he said. "How the political class responds to these numbers will help separate the wheat from the chaff among those who seek office in 2010."

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Michael Foust is an assistant editor of Baptist Press. To read how "gay marriage" impacts parental rights and religious freedom click here.

[tank]

Originally Posted by Joe Contrarian

Do you have a Biblical verse to back up your touchy-feely leftist drivel?

Jesus hated this putrid sinful lifestyle even more than I do:

1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, ¹⁰nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, ²⁷and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. ²⁸And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

Translation: There's no "gay pride" in heaven. If you're a defiant sodomite, don't bother asking for forgiveness. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. Into Lucifer's dungeon you go.

As a civilized society, we will pay a very heavy price if we continue to defy the will of God.

Not answering for ZZ here Joe but i think he is referring to ''love the sinner but hate the sin''

[4625]

Haha. . .He said "Iowa". . . .As if. . . .You can't make this stuff up. . .

[MannyLovitto]

Never gets old watching "joeC" - a non-Christian - cite New Testament verses to prop up his bigotry.

What's steadfastly ignored by our Toronto Tuffy is that we don't even know for sure if Jesus Christ himself was heterosexual.

[MannyLovitto]

As Chef from SouthPark would say, "Here's a little song to help explain it"

[MannyLovitto]

Now "joe" being a non-Christian might also explain why he cites New Testament verses supposedly written by Paul the Apostle and then alleges they provide evidence that "Jesus hates homosexuals".

And fornicators (people who have sex outside of marriage), adulterers (married people who have sex outside of marriage), drunkards (people who use alcohol like "Joe" did at the RxBash in 2007), thieves (people who have stolen) and a bunch more people who - according to Joe's twisted interpretation of the New Testament - are all "hated by Jesus".

I'm pretty sure there's some serious Hate going on here, but I'm kinda thinking that Jesus Christ has no involvement.

[MannyLovitto]

[MannyLovitto]

Sometimes Spraying and Wiping Isn't Enough!

Call A Baptist Pastor Immediately If You've Experienced The Following Secret Invitation

[MannyLovitto]

[scrimmage]

Some of the moralizers here may appreciate Mr. Fish's depiction of a "Dick" they admire:

By NYCartist, July 15 at 6:33 pm
Why does anyone name their child Richard, which ends
up being “Dick”, the penis joke/epithet?

Dick Head
Posted on Jul 14, 2009
By Mr.Fish

Cartoon,comment from:
http://www.truthdig.com/cartoon/item...714_dick_head/

This is such an evergreen thread thanks to all the contributors keeping it going who're:

"Thick as a Brick "-
Jethro Tull -
Madison Square Garden 1978

[scrimmage]

Originally Posted by Joe Contrarian

I speak the truth -- while the EOG's perverts keep trying to legitimize and normalize a vile, devious act by posting idiotic articles on gay penguins...

Who has perverse urges Joe?
Those who want to dictate how others live,or the ones who don't suppress their inhibitions,and function freely.
Is it better to force people to deny who they are,that's where perversity arises.
FYI,there's also a distinction between homo-sexuality,and pedo-philia,they are mutually exclusive,some "homo's" are "pedo's",as some "hetero's" are "pedo's",people who prey on children have other issues,which aren't connected to sexual preference.

Mind
Why the Imp in Your Brain Gets Out

By Benedict Carey
July 6,2009
Excerpt from:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/07/health/07mind.html

The exploration of perverse urges has a rich history (how could it not?), running through the stories of Poe and the Marquis de Sade to Freud’s repressed desires and Darwin’s observation that many actions are performed “in direct opposition to our conscious will.” In the past decade, social psychologists have documented how common such contrary urges are — and when they are most likely to alter people’s behavior.

At a fundamental level, functioning socially means mastering one’s impulses. The adult brain expends at least as much energy on inhibition as on action, some studies suggest, and mental health relies on abiding strategies to ignore or suppress deeply disturbing thoughts — of one’s own inevitable death, for example. These strategies are general, subconscious or semiconscious psychological programs that usually run on automatic pilot.

Perverse impulses seem to arise when people focus intensely on avoiding specific errors or taboos. The theory is straightforward: to avoid blurting out that a colleague is a raging hypocrite, the brain must first imagine just that; the very presence of that catastrophic insult, in turn, increases the odds that the brain will spit it out.

“We know that what’s accessible in our minds can exert an influence on judgment and behavior simply because it’s there, it’s floating on the surface of consciousness,” said Jamie Arndt, a psychologist at the University of Missouri.

[ZZ CREAM]

Originally Posted by Joe Contrarian

Do you have a Biblical verse to back up your touchy-feely leftist drivel?

Jesus hated this putrid sinful lifestyle even more than I do:

1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, ¹⁰nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, ²⁷and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. ²⁸And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

Translation: There's no "gay pride" in heaven. If you're a defiant sodomite, don't bother asking for forgiveness. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. Into Lucifer's dungeon you go.

As a civilized society, we will pay a very heavy price if we continue to defy the will of God.

Jesus said, "Ye that is without sin, cast the first stone." It looks you are already pitching Joe.

[ZZ CREAM]

So Joe, if God were to command all men to be homosexual, would you obey?

[scrimmage]

Pedophiles,Witches and Kids
Posted on Jul 16, 2009

By Lenore Skenazy
Sometimes, when I try to explain how frenzied we have become about the real but extremely rare crime of childhood abduction, I compare our era to that of 1692 Salem. There was no way—back then, back there—to convince the average person: Don’t you see you’re being swept up on a wave of mass hysteria? History will judge you as totally mad! (Though eventually, I suppose, that’ll be great for tourism.)

Folks in and around Salem, Mass., were convinced that witches were everywhere casting spells. In the end, 150 people were arrested as witches and 19 hanged, all for—we can see with the perspective of time—no reason.

Now, I’m not saying that there are absolutely no evil folks in the world today who wish harm upon children. But to imagine them everywhere, ever poised to snatch children, is to see the world through Salem eyes. Eyes blinded by hysteria. And yet look what is happening in England.

“One quarter of the adult population will require criminal records checks under the new child protection system coming into force next year, according to a report criticising the scheme,” wrote The Times, a British newspaper.

That’s right: One-fourth of all adults in Britain will be forced to undergo background checks to determine whether they ever have been convicted of crimes related to pedophilia. The basic assumption being: Anyone who has any contact with children should be considered a pedophile until proved otherwise.

And it’s starting to happen in the United States, too. I’ve heard from parents in a handful of states who say their local public schools are requiring something similar. One Texas mom was barred from her daughter’s kindergarten Christmas party because her background check hadn’t cleared yet. (Eventually, the teacher relented, but the mother had to stand at the very back of the classroom and could not interact with any child except her own.)

You can imagine that this type of law makes adults less eager to volunteer for schools, Scouts or any other activity with kids involved because they have to undergo (and often pay for) security checks first. But what’s worse is that in this suspicious climate, adults grow wary of any involvement with kids. Frank Furedi, author of “Paranoid Parenting,” cites the story of a 2-year-old who wandered away from her nursery. A man driving by noticed her on the street, but (as he later testified at an inquest) he didn’t stop to help for fear he’d be accused of trying to abduct her.
She ended up at a pond. And drowned.

If we have reached the point in society where basic adult concern for children is mistaken for evil, we’re back in Salem, 1692. The next “witch” could be you, comforting the kid who fell off her swing or volunteering for the school dance without a background check. Or, of course, letting your children go “free-range” and being accused of depraved indifference to all the black magic swirling around them.
Lenore Skenazy is the author of “Free-Range Kids: Giving Our Children the Freedom We Had Without Going Nuts With Worry.”
From:
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20090716_pedophiles_witches_and_kids/?ln

By tropicgirl, July 17 at 1:28 pm
People should be as concerned about granting access to their middle and high school age children by the military recruiters.

By Anarcissie, July 17 at 12:41 pm
No doubt there is a lot of abuse of children, but most of it takes place in the sacred precincts of the family; and the media don’t want to offend the family-values people. So there is a tremendous emphasis on career child molesters and sexual offender databases. And as I said before all this takes place in the context of the infantilization of adults and the sexualization of children, not in some child-molester’s basement, but in front of every TV. It’s like the car wrecks on TV—the audience is a remote, passive enabler of the supposed disaster.They’re digging it.


By Ann of New England, July 17 at 10:40 am
This article speaks to something that happened to me this weekend. I brought my kayak to a lake in my weekend community, as I have done countless times. This time, a family with many small children was enjoying the beach, and three of the children came over to quiz me on what I was doing, what kind of boat I had, etc. As I answered their questions, I felt the heated glare of their parents and two other adults on the beach. They looked at me as though I was doing something bad—or about to. It was so uncomfortable, I paddled off as quickly as possible.
At the time, I wondered if it was because I am (and look) like a big ol’ lesbian, and you know people confuse “gay” with “pedophile” all the time. (Thanks, Religious right!) Or was it something else?
Am soooo grateful that I grew up when being a kid meant your parents were happy when you were out of their hair and on your own, exploring your world and its people, for better or for worse. True, I never ran across a pedophile in my home town travels, but I don’t think that was just my luck. All of the men and women I know who were abused by adults as children were abused by family members, not strangers, and I can’t help but wonder if that’s what was going on at the beach this weekend. Perhaps those adults were projecting their own shame or abuse, whether due to their own behavior or what their families had done to them.
It’s something I think about when I’m working on a compassionate response to all of this hate. Sometimes it works better than others….


By Leefeller, July 17 at 10:07 am
Lets see, we go to war at the drop of a hat, from people having been killed or not. It is against the law to partake in drugs, not profitable to certain entities and so outlawed by the government. Seems a number of Americans believe the world was made in 7 days 6000 years ago and things turned to shit, because a naked couple talked to a snake. Now some believe the world will end in 2012, which is supposed to be an improvement? So why not pedophiles, and Witches? Pedophiles have been personified with by the Catholic Church and of course the accused past Michale Jackson.
Living in fear is a noble motivator for morons. Afraid of the Gays, the Muslims, the Jews the left or right and of course the truth and reality are not necessary, so why not be afraid of Catholic elders and Harry Potter just add it to the growing list.
Since I am afraid of clowns, my phobias include the Republicans.

By Russian Paul, July 17 at 12:20 am
The kidnappers we have to watch out for are the ones we’re supposed to trust. The judges, the cops, child services; these guys make good money sending kids to various private facilities. The recent infamous case in Pennsylvania is only the tip of the iceberg.
And it’s not just private facilities; we have a juvenile-detention-industrial complex in this country. Kids who get caught up for the most minor offenses find themselves stuck in the revolving door of juvenile hall/probation.

By coloradokarl, July 16 at 11:37 pm
I feel there is not any more crime today than 20 years or 50 or 500 years ago the difference is the media hype and the control of the fascist police state. There was never a Razor blade in the apple at halloween. It is a documented lie. When we hear of EVERY crime in a country of 300 million people and no one puts it in context we scare the pathetic helicopter moms to death. The shouts of MORE Law and Order ring out from every couch in the country!! Our local and state governments are being slowly bled to death from the excess of public safety. It is ALL HYPE!!! Buy locally and only what you need. STARVE THE BEAST

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