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Old 09-25-07, 11:17 AM   #36 (permalink)
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homosexuality : the root of the occult

go ask your nazi buddies
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romanowski you are an eloquent gentleman.

maybe someone would take you seriously if you stop the attacks and f word.

why would i want to suck an iranian cock? i have no desire to suck cocks, you must?

i guess our current leaders do though. pretty sad that our moral, peaceful, prosperous america has been replaced by wars, rape, torture, homosexuality, corruption, anger, fear, hatred.

and some defend these guys and denounce relatively peaceful leaders like ahmadinejad, chavez, etc that are loved by their people and haven't killed millions like we have in vietnam, cambodia, afghanistan, iraq WHERE WE HAVE NO DAMN BUSINESS.
I DON'T GIVE A RAT'S ASS WHAT IRAN, IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN, VENEZUELA, SYRIA, JORDAN, OR ISRAEL SAY OR DO.

WE ARE PROTECTED BY THOUSANDS OF MILES OF OCEANS AND THESE COUNTRIES DON'T EVEN HAVE AN AIR FORCE. SO HOW THE HELL ARE THEY A THREAT THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE AFRAID OF?
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Youre probably a good guy whos just misled

g-d bless you hope you get help
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i don't blame the jews. i was just pointing out that we shouldn't love them and fight their wars, build their pipelines, etc.

i am just as much against christianity, catholicism, islam, and every other religion that manipulates people for money and power.

if you haven't noticed i have posted numerous references to zeitgeistmovie.com which bashes jesus the sun-god.
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zeitgeist movie has it wrong...is it possible to learn something from a movie without it being 100% correct.

Rome's manipulation of the doctrine is whats wrong...nothing else wrong with christianity. You should try it
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any movie that is a starting point to research and thought is a good thing imho.

so you believe in jesus? i think i found an article that summarizes your belief in the savior but not in the men that "changed" the story. is this close to your thoughts?

i think we agree that truth is something that is realized, not something that you are told.

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When Indians have identity it is called culture.
When Blacks have identity it is called pride.
When Semites (Jews) have identity it is called history.
When White People have identity it's called racism!
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mikey you are still a sheep to rome with your atheism

nothing they like more than a godless society

Hallowed Be Thy Name
This name was not meant to be forgotten!
Did you know that the Heavenly Father has a name? The surprising truth is that the Name of the Creator of all things is found 6,823 times in ancient scriptures, yet it was concealed by translators who believed it was too holy to use. But the scriptures challenge you to discover the importance of the only true, personal Name of the Creator and the Name of His Son, our Savior - the only Name that gives salvation!
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Proverbs 25:2 It is the honor of the Almighty to conceal a thing; But the honor of kings is to search out a matter.
Scripture leaves no doubt as to the importance of our Heavenly Father’s Name!
Note: The Hebrew letters for the Heavenly Father’s name ,known as the tetragrammaton and transliterated as YHWH, have been used throughout.
Proverbs 30:4 Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His name, and what is His Son's name, if you know it?
Isaiah 42:8 I am (YHWH) that is My name: and My honor will I not give to another (name), neither My praise to graven images.
Psalm 68:4 Sing unto Elohim, sing praises to His name: extol Him that rides upon the heavens by His name YAH, and rejoice before Him.
"Yah" is the last part of the word "halleluYah." HalleluYah is the most ancient of all words of praise and means "praise Yah."
Exodus 20: 7 You shall not take the name of (YHWH) your Elohim in vain, for will not hold him guiltless that takes His name in vain. (This is the Third Commandment.)
Psalm 135:13 Thy Name O YHWH, enduteth forever; Thy memorial, O YHWH, throughout all generations.
1Kings 18:21 If (YHWH) be Elohim, follow Him; And if Baal then follow Him. (Hebrew: Baal = Lord)
Hosea 2:17 I will take the names of the Baalim out of her mouth and they shall no more be remembered by their name. (�Baalim� is the plural of Baal. Baalim = Lords)
Psalm 22:22 I will declare Thy Name unto my brethren, in the midst of the congregation will I sing praise unto Thee. (also quoted in Hebrews 2:12)
And it shall come to pass that whosoever shall call on the Name of (YHWH) shall be saved. Acts 2:21 and Joel 2:32
Psalm 9:10 And they that know Thy Name will put their trust in Thee.



And from the New Testament...
John 17:6 I have manifested Thy Name unto the men which Thou gavest Me out of the world.
John 17:26 And I have declared unto them Thy Name and will declare it."
“Hallowed be Thy Name." Matthew 6:9
The correct Name of the Messiah, Yahushua, is the only Name by which He was known to His disciples, though He has several titles such as Rabbi, Son of Man, Saviour, Anointed, and King of Kings.
Proverbs 30:4 What is His name and what is His Son's Name, if thou canst tell?
The name Yahushua literally means “ is salvation”.
John 5:43 I am come in My Father's Name and ye receive Me not, if another shall come in his own name, him you will receive.
John 12:13 Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the Name of .
John 14:13-14 And whatsoever ye shall ask in My Name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If ye ask anything in My Name I will do it.
Acts 4:12...for there is none other Name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved.
Revelation 14:1 (ASV) And I saw, and behold, the Lamb standing on the mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty and four thousand, having his name, and the name of his Father, written on their foreheads.
Concerning the truth, and the truth includes the name of our Heavenly Father, we are instructed to prove all things:
1Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
Matthew 5:6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
Jeremiah 16:19 , my strength, and my stronghold, and my refuge in the day of affliction, unto thee shall the nations come from the ends of the earth, and shall say, "Our fathers have inherited nothing but lies, even vanity and things wherein there is no profit." 20 Shall a man make unto himself elohim, which yet are no elohim? 21 "Therefore, behold, I will cause them to know, this once will I cause them to know my hand and my might; and they shall know that my name is ."
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Yahushua is the true name of the Messiah


***** Note that Joshua = Yoshua or Yahushua because there is no "J" sound in Hebrew. The letter "J" is only about 500 years old and isn't even found in the original 1611 King James version. (proof)
The purpose of this study is to demonstrate that the Messiah's name never was "Jesus" and that the name "Jesus" is actually an invention of man.
In the King James Version of the scriptures, we find an interesting problem in its translation:
Acts 7:44(KJV) Our fathers had the tabernacle of witness in the wilderness, as he had appointed, speaking unto Moses, that he should make it according to the fashion that he had seen. 45 Which also our fathers that came after brought in with Jesus into the possession of the Gentiles, whom God drave out before the face of our fathers, unto the days of David;
Isn't this scripture referring to Joshua, son of Nun rather than the Savior? Yes. Here is another instance...
Hebr 4:7 (KJV) Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts. 8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
Again, the context reveals that this scripture is referring to Joshua, the son of Nun and not the Messiah. All other translations put "Joshua" here. Why then is it translated 'Jesus'? The answer lies in the Greek/Latin corruption of the Messiah's original Hebrew name. Originally, the name of the Messiah was , pronounced Yahushua. This is the Messiah's original name. When the Gentiles tried to transliterate His name into Greek, they came up with ihsoun or "Iesous". But originally, this word was from #3091 in the Hebrew which is . When Iesous was transliterated into Latin, it became "Iesus", which was then carried over into English it became our modern day "Jesus" when the letter "J" developed.
Therefore, the reason the King James Version has "Jesus" in those two verses is because the Messiah's name is actually the same name as Joshua, Son of Nun... correctly pronounced "Yahushua". It is quite evident that the modern form "Jesus" doesn't even remotely resemble the original name that the disciples were praying in, baptizing in and receiving so much criticism for preaching in. This is fact. Do some research and see for yourself.
Secular References

Encyclopedia Americana:
"Jesus Christ--- ...Although Matthew (1:21) interprets the name originally Joshua, that is, 'Yahweh is Salvation,' and finds it specially appropriate for Jesus of Nazareth, it was a common one at that time." (Vol.16, p. 41)
Encyclopedia Britannica (15th ed.)
"Jesus Christ---...The same is true of the name Jesus. In the Septuagint it is the customary Greek form for the common Hebrew name Joshua;" (Vol. 10 p.149)
Religious Scholars

Barnes' notes: (Note on Matt. 1:21)
"His name is Jesus: The name Jesus is the same as Saviour. It is derived from the verb signifying to save. In Hebrew it is the same as Joshua. In two places [Acts 7:45 and Hebrews 4:8] in the New Testament it is used where is means Joshua, the leader of the Jews into Canaan, and in our translation the name Joshua should have been retained."
Word studies in the New Testament, by Marvin R. Vincent---
"Jesus. The Greek form of a Hebrew name, which had been borne by two illustrious individuals in former periods of the Jewish History --- Joshua, the successor of Moses, and Jeshua, the high priest, who with Zerubbabel took so active a part in the re-establishment of the civil and religious polity of the Jews in their return from Babylon. Its original and full form is Jehoshua, becoming by contraction Joshua or Jeshua."
The Acts of the Apostles, by Jackson and Lake
"Jesus--- This is the regular Greek translation of the Hebrew Joshua."
Smith's Bible Dictionary:
"Jesus Christ ---- The name Jesus means Savior, and was a common name, derived from the ancient Hebrew Jehoshua."
A dictionary of the Bible, by James Hastings
"Jesus -- The Greek form of the name Joshua or Jeshua. Jeshua ---- Yahweh is Salvation or Yahweh is opulence."
Alford's Greek New Testament, An Exegetical and Critical Commentary:
"Jesus -- The same name as Joshua, the former deliverer of Israel."
Encyclopedic Dictionary of Religion:
"Jesus (The Name) --- Matthew's gospel explains it as symbolic of His mission, 'For he will save His people from their sins.' This agrees with the popular meaning as 'Yahweh saves...' " p.1886
Catholic Encyclopedia:
"The Sacred Name ---- The word Jesus is the Latin form of the Greek "Iesous" which in turn is the transliteration of the Hebrew Jeshua, or Joshua, or again Jehoshua, meaning 'Jehovah is Salvation' " Vol. 8, p. 374
Interpreter's Bible: (Note on Matt. 1:21)
"Jesus: for He shall save: The play on words (Yeshua, Jesus; yoshia, shall save) is possible in Hebrew but not in Aramaic. The name Joshua means "Yahweh is salvation"
Matthew Henry's Commentary

(on Matthew 1:21)
"Jesus is the same name with Joshua, the termination only being changed, for the sake of conforming it to the greek."
Conclusion
It can be concluded then, that "Jesus" was not the Messiah's name when He walked the earth. That is the purpose of this study. For information on why we should use the Messiah's original name, click here.
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i'm a sheep when you believe in an invisible being that lives in the clouds?

you claim zeitgeist is wrong yet how is that not similar to the sun-god?

either way it's a "savior" mentality to allow the slaves to keep being slaves (sheep) with the hope of an afterlife or something better. if we are awake and cognizant that this is all there is, we would fight back a little more against our oppression.

saying that it's a "messiah" or "original savior" that was then changed to jesus is still believing in a higher power that doesn't exist.

and using abusive tones (like dirty giving me the finger) to people that have a different point of view is hardly the path to enlightenment.
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i'm a sheep when you believe in an invisible being that lives in the clouds?

you claim zeitgeist is wrong yet how is that not similar to the sun-god?

either way it's a "savior" mentality to allow the slaves to keep being slaves (sheep) with the hope of an afterlife or something better. if we are awake and cognizant that this is all there is, we would fight back a little more against our oppression.

saying that it's a "messiah" or "original savior" that was then changed to jesus is still believing in a higher power that doesn't exist.

and using abusive tones (like dirty giving me the finger) to people that have a different point of view is hardly the path to enlightenment.


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romo have you been to rome?
that's one of the examples of places i don't want my children/grandchildren to live in - police state with machine gun-toting soldiers on the streets.

that's the primary reason i post here and elsewhere. i love this country and the people in it, but as long as people keep getting manipulated into agreeing with wars and the expansion of the police state by the media we're on the wrong track.

WE DON'T NEED WARS. WE DON'T NEED VIOLENCE. ESPECIALLY WITH THOSE WEAKER THAN US WHO ARE JUST TRYING TO LIVE. i learned that in kindergarten for crying out loud.
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in your world you will always be subservant to someone here on earth without yahweh

I guess you havent seen that with all your truth seeking.

In zeitgeist at the end I believe there is a very good part. We are all "life" or g-d. The pale blue dot

only worry yourself with what you control. Eat well, exercise.

Stay as soverign as you can fight off the meme Meme - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia for yourself.

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dirty i like you and i think you are an asset to eog.

but spouting nonsense like that is why some of the more intelligent posters are gone and we get nothing more than a pissing contest between people that like to hear themselves talk. rather than try to learn something or get a different perspective. i think someone can have a disagreement or discussion with respect and without being an asshole.

calling someone like me who has never pushed for anything but peace "hitler" or "nazi" is completely ridiculous and unfounded.
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WE DON'T NEED WARS. WE DON'T NEED VIOLENCE. ESPECIALLY WITH THOSE WEAKER THAN US WHO ARE JUST TRYING TO LIVE. i learned that in kindergarten for crying out loud.
Yahushua Taught non-Violence
Yahushua said:
"Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, that ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also. And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away. Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbor, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the tax collectors the same? And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the tax collectors so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." (Matthew 7:38-48)

You are right, but why worry about something we do not control. Are you saying a democrat will save you? Or Ron Paul?

And why place blame on anyone. Its the Meme...Rome...growing.....

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romo thanks for your perspective.

just be careful not to push it as the "only truth", keep in mind everyone finds their own truth and god. with me it's the power within each of us that is god. as you said we are all god.

and no i am not subservant to anyone or anything. i like to learn but i don't fear and hate, which make me on my knees for nothing and nobody imho.
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romo have you been to rome?
that's one of the examples of places i don't want my children/grandchildren to live in - police state with machine gun-toting soldiers on the streets.

that's the primary reason i post here and elsewhere. i love this country and the people in it, but as long as people keep getting manipulated into agreeing with wars and the expansion of the police state by the media we're on the wrong track.

WE DON'T NEED WARS. WE DON'T NEED VIOLENCE. ESPECIALLY WITH THOSE WEAKER THAN US WHO ARE JUST TRYING TO LIVE. i learned that in kindergarten for crying out loud.

The letters in Bold are how you tried to tell us that Milwaukee was at one time, and I told you if it was that bad then leave. You told me you would not leave there... so what is the difference or were you lying
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interesting. but i really have nothing better to do than worry about things i can't control.

and i guess i was raised with "we the people" and that we governed ourselves. i don't think anyone will be "saved" (certainly not by a democrat) but hopefully we can postpone or eliminate some of the ambitions like nau and id chipping if people have a little more knowledge.
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i never said there was anyone with machine guns on the streets of milwaukee. it's nowhere near that point.

i said THE TRUTH that mayfair mall in wauwatosa (a suburb of milwaukee) has armed guards (not machine guns) at the entrances that ask for ids. that's a small step in that direction but still A HUGE WAY FROM MACHINE GUNS ON THE STREET.
also the university of wisconsin at saturday night's football game had MANDATORY BREATHALIZERS for some even though you can't buy alcohol or beer at the game. if you were drunk or denied the test on the way in you couldn't enter, even with a ticket.
WISCONSIN STATE JOURNAL

again, not the end of the world by any stretch but a step in the wrong direction nonetheless. a path toward "guilty until proven innocent".
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I don't have time to research, but want to hear your answer so I'll brainstorm, in no particular order:

1) Some sort of U.N. immunity;
2) No hard evidence that AJ has committed "terrorism" as defined by statute;
3) An overt act of war such as suggested would bring a retaliatory response that would make our situation on the ground in Iraq "uncomfortable" to say the least;
4) To take action against AJ might expose Bush to same treatment elsewhere;
5) Taking action against AJ would serve to rally the Iranian citizenry around him, reversing his unpopularity among Iranians;
6) Congress has not declared war against Iran; and
7) Executive Order prohibiting the assassination of heads of state.

I'll have to post more later, but you are VERY warm 46....
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MM....
your ignorance knows no bounds. To even entertain the very notion that the Jews were no systematically targeted by Nazi Germany is simply plain ignorant.
In case you slept through all of your history lessons from grammar school on through college here's some direct quotes from your Furer to help you realize that in fact your dead wrong...
1.Speech delivered by Hitler in Salzburg, 7 or 8 August 1920. (NSDAP meeting)
The following quotation is from a shorthand transcript.
"This is the first demand we must raise and do [reversal of the Versailles Treaty provisions]: that our people be set free, that these chains be burst asunder, that Germany be once again captain of her soul and master of her destinies, together with all those who want to join Germany. (Applause)
And the fulfillment of this first demand will then open up the way for all the other reforms. And here is one thing that perhaps distinguishes us from you [Austrians] as far as our programme is concerned, although it is very much in the spirit of things: our attitude to the Jewish problem.
For us, this is not a problem you can turn a blind eye to-one to be solved by small concessions. For us, it is a problem of whether our nation can ever recover its health, whether the Jewish spirit can ever really be eradicated. Don't be misled into thinking you can fight a disease without killing the carrier, without destroying the bacillus. Don't think you can fight racial tuberculosis without taking care to rid the nation of the carrier of that racial tuberculosis. This Jewish contamination will not subside, this poisoning of the nation will not end, until the carrier himself, the Jew, has been banished from our midst. (Applause)
Source: D Irving, The War Path: Hitler's Germany 1933-1939. Papermac, 1978, p.xxi


When Hell asked Hitler what he intended doing if he ever had full freedom of action against the Jews, his response was:
"If I am ever really in power, the destruction of the Jews will be my first and most important job. As soon as I have power, I shall have gallows after gallows erected, for example, in Munich on the Marienplatz-as many of them as traffic allows. Then the Jews will be hanged one after another, and they will stay hanging until they stink. They will stay hanging as long as hygienically possible. As soon as they are untied, then the next group will follow and that will continue until the last Jew in Munich is exterminated. Exactly the same procedure will be followed in other cities until Germany is cleansed of the last Jew!" (quoted in John Toland, Adolf Hitler. London: Book Club Associates, 1977, p.116)


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"We swear we are not going to abandon the struggle until the Last Jew in Europe has been exterminated and is actually dead. It is not enough to isolate the Jewish enemy of mankind-the Jew has got to be exterminated." (Trial of the Major War Criminals Before the International Military Tribunal, Vol.3, Nuremberg, 1947, p. 36)


Das Schwarze Korps [SS Newspaper] 24 November 1938
"So, we are now going to have a total solution to the Jewish question. The programme is clear. It reads: total separation, total segregation! What does this mean? It does not only mean the total exclusion of the Jews from the German economic system... It means much more! No German can be expected to live under the same roof as Jews. The Jews must be chased out of our houses and our residential districts and made to live in rows or blocks of houses where they can keep to themselves and come into contact with Germans as little as possible. They must be clearly identified.... And when we compel the rich Jews to provide for the `poor' of their race, which will certainly be necessary, they will all sink together into a pit of criminality. As this happens, we will be faced with the harsh necessity of eradicating the Jewish underworld, just as we root out criminals from our own orderly state: with fire and sword. The result will be the certain and absolute end of Jewry in Germany; its complete annihilation!" [Source: Benno Müller-Hill. Murderous Science. New York: CSHL Press, 1998, p.48]


Hitler's Speech to the Reichstag, 30 January, 1939:
"Europe cannot find peace until the Jewish question has been solved. …One thing I should like to say