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    I'll forgive you for the historic perspective ;-)

    I could walk around the town center here tomorrow (England), see about 80 people wearing Yankees caps, and maybe 1 could name 1 Yankees player.. the commercialisation of the Yankees annoys me.

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    Let me welcome this site as well - congrats. cheers

    Which brings me to the following questions: was that email between you and Millenium real, the one below, that was posted by Millenium in apparent anger in another forum?

    Second question: since Mr. Doyle Brunson will be guest posting here, I wonder if you might post a query to him concerning the unverified details of the $700 million dollar 'phantom' bid (apparently phantom) that was made in a buyout offer for WPT - why did the financing fall through? No one including the S.E.C. has ever seen any details of the offer, but that didn't stop the stock from taking a joyride. TIA

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    Alleged email to Millenium from the Shrink ....

    I was about to email this to you but I see yours came first...

    I understand that you are upset by our decision to take the Millennium
    banner down for the time being and I hope that you will hear me out and
    work with me to come to a resolution that will be favorable to both of
    us.

    We FULLY agree that the backlash against Millennium is unwarranted and
    blown way out of proportion. And if EOG were already established and
    relied on traffic outside of these current forum naysayers, we would
    not be making this decision. The problem that we have is that
    PERCEPTION is everything.
    And, out of the gate, our traffic is going
    to be exclusively from posters from the Rx and others.

    We do have a solution that I think will help us bring you onto the site
    with a minimum of backlash. We want to do two things in the early days
    of XXX. First, we will begin a thread in which I will state that I
    believe in Millennium 100% and don't feel that their connection to BoS
    means that they should carry the same bad reputation.
    Secondly, we
    will be opening another advertising spot whereby sports books can have
    their own Overview page as the other advertisers do. We will be
    charging advertisers $1k per month for this spot but will give this to
    you FREE. In the thread we start backing Millennium, we will openly
    state that we have given you this spot for free as a measure of good
    faith and to demonstrate that we have TOTAL faith in your company.
    We will let posters know that if all goes well with Millennium for six
    months, that we plan to reinstate you as a DIAMOND advertiser.


    We would encourage you to participate in this discussion freely and
    often. In the end, this might help to ease the association with BoS
    and boost the perception these posters have of Millennium's credibility
    to the point where it should be already.


    Please believe that this has been a very difficult decision for me to
    make and that I will do everything in my power to make this right with
    you. But we absolutely need to work on the posters first and foremost.


    We will be out of business without them and being a brand new company,
    we want to do everything we can to let them know that we are there for
    THEM first.

    I will give you a call soon to follow up to this email. I want us to
    work this out.

    Ken.

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    Wow new digs..and Glacker is a mod? Glacker with the finger on the button...I'm scared!

    Good luck Ken and Pete and the rest of you guys...hope things go well for you.

    cheers

    sb

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    This JAZZ charachter is obviously just starting trouble with that POPPYCOCK!


    understand that you are upset by our decision to take the Millennium
    banner down for the time being and I hope that you will hear me out and
    work with me to come to a resolution that will be favorable to both of
    us.

    We FULLY agree that the backlash against Millennium is unwarranted and
    blown way out of proportion. And if EOG were already established and
    relied on traffic outside of these current forum naysayers, we would
    not be making this decision. The problem that we have is that
    PERCEPTION is everything. And, out of the gate, our traffic is going
    to be exclusively from posters from the Rx and others.

    We do have a solution that I think will help us bring you onto the site
    with a minimum of backlash. We want to do two things in the early days
    of XXX. First, we will begin a thread in which I will state that I
    believe in Millennium 100% and don't feel that their connection to BoS
    means that they should carry the same bad reputation. Secondly, we
    will be opening another advertising spot whereby sports books can have
    their own Overview page as the other advertisers do. We will be
    charging advertisers $1k per month for this spot but will give this to
    you FREE. In the thread we start backing Millennium, we will openly
    state that we have given you this spot for free as a measure of good
    faith and to demonstrate that we have TOTAL faith in your company. We will let posters know that if all goes well with Millennium for six
    months, that we plan to reinstate you as a DIAMOND advertiser.

    We would encourage you to participate in this discussion freely and
    often. In the end, this might help to ease the association with BoS
    and boost the perception these posters have of Millennium's credibility
    to the point where it should be already.

    Please believe that this has been a very difficult decision for me to
    make and that I will do everything in my power to make this right with
    you. But we absolutely need to work on the posters first and foremost.


    We will be out of business without them and being a brand new company,
    we want to do everything we can to let them know that we are there for
    THEM first.

    I will give you a call soon to follow up to this email. I want us to
    work this out.

    Ken.



    I do NOT believe for ONE SECOND that THE SHRINK wrote that email!

    This "BETMILLINIUM" guy is OBVIOUSLY just upset that he was not allowed to advertise on EOG!

    Perhaps if BETMILLINUIM spent a bit more time and effort repairing THEIR OWN repoutation, and less time worring about SLINGING MUD, they would be fit for such a respected site as this one!

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    I took a quick look at everything. It's very comprehensive and impressive. It's also very easy to navigate.

    The handicapping section is one thing that all players need. I really like the matchup section. Everything is on one page including the current weather. I also like the drop down menu which makes it easy to go to another matchup.

    A couple of things that I would like to see added there are SP stats and current weather. It's a must to see the last five starts for pitchers. Also GB to FB ratio is nice. Besides the current weather I would like to see the predicted game time weather too.

    Most know which way ballbarks face but it would be a help to also add if the wind is blowing out. If the wind in Chicago is out of the S 10 miles/hour it would also be nice to say " out to left 10mph".

    I also like the odds that are up. Are the odds live or delayed? Also do they refresh automatically or is it on a delay such as 30 seconds?


    Odds on the first person to have a meltdown:
    Jman -140
    Field +120

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    Look, Meyer, you're a dead Mafioso so bugger off ... dogtoilet

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    I'm a bit concerned by the touts selling picks section.. I hope that won't be pushed too heavily in the forums and the rest of the site.

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    Hey, Meyer used the word 'PoppyCOCK' - he has violated the terms of his agreement that curse words would not be used here, and I believe he should be given a half-hour timeout to think over his transgression.

    From what I understood, this was supposed to be a civil place where the truth could be discussed and exposed, if necessary. Was I wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meyer Lansky
    This JAZZ charachter is obviously just starting trouble with that POPPYCOCK!




    I do NOT believe for ONE SECOND that THE SHRINK wrote that email!

    This "BETMILLINIUM" guy is OBVIOUSLY just upset that he was not allowed to advertise on EOG!

    Perhaps if BETMILLINUIM spent a bit more time and effort repairing THEIR OWN repoutation, and less time worring about SLINGING MUD, they would be fit for such a respected site as this one!
    Just a question Meyer: If you wanted to, could you shit in Shrink's pants?

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    Well obviously i will not be able to have an intelligent conversation with you, mr JAZZ!

    You are just an AGENDA ridden poop head, who has nothing better to do than to besmirch the most RESPECTED and ADMIRED man in the OFFSHORE industry!

    Good day to you sir!

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001
    I also like the odds that are up. Are the odds live or delayed? Also do they refresh automatically or is it on a delay such as 30 seconds?
    Hiya, Raiders! Odds are on an auto-refresh every 30 seconds. Same for live scoring.

    As for the stats requests ... we have those fed into the site, but our stats providers are VERY cooperative and take all feedback into consideration. You might notice that our live scoring stats are from a different provider, who also give us team/player stats, something not provided by our matchups guys. Over the next couple of weeks, our web guys are going to try hard to link those bits of data up so you can see the stats of the pitcher in question. Hope that helps.

    More notes, more notes ...


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    hung

    homedog you made me spill my drink, please fedex me $5.00 thanks. bounce

    good luck E.O.G

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    Not to worry, Santo, I'm sure we'll keep the word spreading around that touts are a really, really stupid way to spend your money, considering that even if they could hit 55%, their fees will ensure you'll end up a loser. And that's the .000014% of them that are honest - the rest being crack-heads who feed their habits with your credit cards.

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    Hey, Mistah Meyer, have you taken your nightly lithium caps or did you pop in a few viagra instead? I ask because it seems the location of your 2 heads have reversed themselves. May I recommend that you refrain from posting more out-dated 1930s-ish comments and ring up a call girl who might be able to take care of your overdose and otherwise occupy your feverish imagination?

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    I used to really rag touts, but over time, I realized there was a market for it and if they can make a buck, then they will. The American Dream. I will not pay for picks though. No harm in trying to turn a player off from them with the free picks on forums.

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    General -- Is it safe to say that they won't be actively promoted in these forums? If you get mods saying they're a good idea you open a whole can of worms...

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    Nice site...Good Luck on the new site. Glad to see everythings up and running!

    Cheers cheers


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    Good post, General. The number of honest touts who could actually make you money after there fees are deducted are probably as rare as an honest politician without anything to hide. The enormous number of absolute liars and cheats in that industry is staggering - it's amazing that people still fall for their poppycock (thank you, Meyer, that term came in handy), and those that do I have absolutely no pity for if they were forewarned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santo
    I'm a bit concerned by the touts selling picks section.. I hope that won't be pushed too heavily in the forums and the rest of the site.
    IMHO, touts are not good for this site, only time will tell.

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    I think the touts actually prefer to be left out of the forums. Concern over having their picks 'leaked' or something, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santo
    General -- Is it safe to say that they won't be actively promoted in these forums? If you get mods saying they're a good idea you open a whole can of worms...
    Touts will NOT be promoted on this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The General
    I used to really rag touts, but over time, I realized there was a market for it and if they can make a buck, then they will. The American Dream. I will not pay for picks though. No harm in trying to turn a player off from them with the free picks on forums.

    I totally agree..........

    Most of us here are good enough we don't need help with our selections, but the fact is there are many that don't have a clue.

    Don't misunderstand me here, I'm not supporting touts, but there actually are some legitimate ones out there that can pick winners, and if they can help win a guy some bucks and get a few passed his way, I see no harm in it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by xpanda
    I think the touts actually prefer to be left out of the forums. Concern over having their picks 'leaked' or something, I guess.
    That is hilarious sweet thing. :D

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    Shrink your new site looks nice, good luck.

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    Hache, if some people don't have a clue than they should stay the hell away from sports gambling. The odds are small they'll find an honest tout, and the odds are good that if they do then that tout my be having an off-streak.

    My advice: if you don't know what you're doing, put your money in a bank or invest it in something you DO know about, and stay away from sports gambling because it can turn into a very expensive obsession that can adversely impact your life. If you're only gambling 'fun money' that can't hurt you, why give any of it to a tout? Either learn or leave, but don't give those leeches a red cent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sportsbet
    Wow new digs..and Glacker is a mod? Glacker with the finger on the button...I'm scared!

    Good luck Ken and Pete and the rest of you guys...hope things go well for you.

    cheers

    sb
    LOL...SB...Your future depends on the outcome of the Falcons-Eagles game on Monday Night Football, September 12th. hung

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    I want to send out another welcome to all of you since my earlier post.

    Thank you so much for considering EOG as a place to discuss sports betting and The Gambling Industry.

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    Thanks Ken for welcoming us on to the team. Imagination Plus is proud and honoured to be a part of EOG.com. We wish the site the best of luck on the night of its maiden voyage. Sports betting has never seen a website as good as www.eog.com. Good luck!!!!!!

    THANKS EOG!

    Michael Salvatori
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazz
    Hache, if some people don't have a clue than they should stay the hell away from sports gambling. The odds are small they'll find an honest tout, and the odds are good that if they do then that tout my be having an off-streak.

    My advice: if you don't know what you're doing, put your money in a bank or invest it in something you DO know about, and stay away from sports gambling because it can turn into a very expensive obsession that can adversely impact your life. If you're only gambling 'fun money' that can't hurt you, why give any of it to a tout? Either learn or leave, but don't give those leeches a red cent.

    I also agree with everything you said above Jazz, but surely you can see my point.....

    Actually, my motto "somewhere else" used to always be "If you have to pay for picks, then you should not be betting sports"

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    All I can say is 'THANK GOD THE SITE IS FINALLY OPENED' !!!!!!!bounce


    Scarlett

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    Good motto - hey, you can be my wingman when that Meyer character wakes up after his nap tomorrow, downs some extra-strength Metamucil and comes in here looking for trouble again. Poppycock indeed dog1

    Later, the downers are kicking in fireext

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    As far as touts go, I would say that 95% of us have paid for them in the past. I know that I did. Most of us have to learn this lesson on our own. Hopefully the post by Jazz will save a few from pissing money down the drain.

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    Matchup section is nice. In Baseball having records having w/l vs rhp and lhp is sweet. Echo the thoughts of the person previous and throw in the last 3 or 5 starts of the pitchers. Site looks like a winnner. Good luck EOG crew.

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