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    like I said, maybe the worst contract in MLB history

    other moronic deals were given to guys who were actually free agents.

    In this case, the Tigers had a player at the beginning of his decline with TWO YEARS LEFT ON THE DEAL. They chose to give him a monster contract for years when he probably will miss a lot of games, and even when he plays, won't be at his peak.
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    What made it even worse was they also gave Victor Martinez a long contract.

    The Tigers had two guys who couldn't play defense or run, and in fact every time they jogged, they were at risk of pulling a muscle, and they decided they needed to sign both to big contracts to keep them until they were 40.

    The absolute height of stupidity. I can't understand how they thought this was going to work out well.

    Victor Martinez is making $18 million this season. Miguel Cabrera is making $30 million.
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    Quote Originally Posted by High Times View Post
    This guy hasn't even reached his peak.......

    He is a young 30 and will be one of the best hitters for at least the next 5 years and maybe a lot longer as he could play the DH after 5 years.

    Who in the world else are they going to sign that is as good as him? There is no one and he deserves every penny.

    The owner obviously loves him and thinks he is worth it..... And so do I ... There's nobody close to his worth in baseball........

    Good for him...........
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    Since 2014, he played 119 games in 2015, 158 in 2016, and 130 in 2017. This year, he has been in 38 games...and he's done.

    Now he can deal with the kids he had with a mistress who is suing him for $100,000 per month child support, and she is claiming he pays more attention to his 3 kids with his wife than he does with his 2 kids with the mistress.

    https://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...ers/357238002/

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    Quote Originally Posted by yisman View Post
    like I said, maybe the worst contract in MLB history

    other moronic deals were given to guys who were actually free agents.

    In this case, the Tigers had a player at the beginning of his decline with TWO YEARS LEFT ON THE DEAL. They chose to give him a monster contract for years when he probably will miss a lot of games, and even when he plays, won't be at his peak.


    Yisman was right...again.

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    10 yr contracts

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    I don't believe this tells the whole story. You make a lot of good points but you also leave out a lot too. To add to that side of the story you can even include the fact they took on Dontrelle Willis's horrible contract just to pick Miggy up originally. Some of the things you're leaving out is the butts in the seats that Miggy just being on the team produced. the AL East titles he led them to including the year they signed him to this extension as well as many times a guy gets a sweet contract based on what he's done in the past as well. Detroit was still in the thick of being on top of the east. Yes in hindsight it was a bad contract but most teams would have done the exact same thing and have over the years when they have a big Slugger in their lineup like that and a major draw at the gate. They also just unloaded Prince Fielder's big contract to sign and keep him. You don't not sign the best or second best player in the league when your still winning division titles and considered one of the best teams in the league. We've all seen this situation many times before. When all you're doing is looking at the stats on the internet you reach conclusions like this but there was way more to this situation that what you laid out here . Worst contract in the history of the league? I don't think that's even close.

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    Default Re: Miguel Cabrera 10-year deal with the Tigers worth $300M

    with the marlins, he would not even show up at the park for games. just a knucklehead who had the talent for a better career...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushay View Post
    I don't believe this tells the whole story. You make a lot of good points but you also leave out a lot too. To add to that side of the story you can even include the fact they took on Dontrelle Willis's horrible contract just to pick Miggy up originally. Some of the things you're leaving out is the butts in the seats that Miggy just being on the team produced. the AL East titles he led them to including the year they signed him to this extension as well as many times a guy gets a sweet contract based on what he's done in the past as well. Detroit was still in the thick of being on top of the east. Yes in hindsight it was a bad contract but most teams would have done the exact same thing and have over the years when they have a big Slugger in their lineup like that and a major draw at the gate. They also just unloaded Prince Fielder's big contract to sign and keep him. You don't not sign the best or second best player in the league when your still winning division titles and considered one of the best teams in the league. We've all seen this situation many times before. When all you're doing is looking at the stats on the internet you reach conclusions like this but there was way more to this situation that what you laid out here . Worst contract in the history of the league? I don't think that's even close.
    Basically it was the Tigers version of the Seabrook contract with the Blackhawks. Those contracts just hamstring your team for years. I like Miggy but he’s had injury issues.

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    in foresight and hindsight it was an awful contract

    Detroit could've had the little production he had left without extending him. Again, he was under contract. The extension got them years of futility and injuries.
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    The extension kicked in for 2016. He was signed for 2014 and 2015 already so there was no reason to give him the deal rather than waiting and seeing if the years of being out of shape (not to mention the alcohol) would cause an early decline.

    Out of the 8 years they gave him on the extension, 2016 was his only productive season. Even then, considering he can't play defense or run, it's debatable whether that season was worthy of $30 million.

    The team will be hamstrung for the duration of the deal and it's showing on the field.

    2016 they were ok but missed the playoffs even with that bloated payroll so that's a failure.

    2017 they were the worst team in baseball.

    2018 they're probably going to finish with 70-75 wins, so 3rd or 4th place in what's turning into the worst division in baseball.

    Expect something similar in 2019.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushay View Post
    I don't believe this tells the whole story. You make a lot of good points but you also leave out a lot too. To add to that side of the story you can even include the fact they took on Dontrelle Willis's horrible contract just to pick Miggy up originally. Some of the things you're leaving out is the butts in the seats that Miggy just being on the team produced. the AL East titles he led them to including the year they signed him to this extension as well as many times a guy gets a sweet contract based on what he's done in the past as well. Detroit was still in the thick of being on top of the east. Yes in hindsight it was a bad contract but most teams would have done the exact same thing and have over the years when they have a big Slugger in their lineup like that and a major draw at the gate. They also just unloaded Prince Fielder's big contract to sign and keep him. You don't not sign the best or second best player in the league when your still winning division titles and considered one of the best teams in the league. We've all seen this situation many times before. When all you're doing is looking at the stats on the internet you reach conclusions like this but there was way more to this situation that what you laid out here . Worst contract in the history of the league? I don't think that's even close.
    Very true the high brass / ownership also look at the fannies in the seats / TV . Horrible & good teams do take on players for that reason. Last contract of Jeter's was longer than the GM wanted cause ownership knows Jeter made people come to the game. Good points bushay .

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    This is the Tigers attendance since they moved to Comerica Park. 1st column is single game average. Then actual attendance followed by AL league average. Miggy came here the middle of 2007. As anyone can see the numbers skyrocketed. Even doubling a few earlier years thanks to Miggy and the team getting better. He rejuvenated the entire city. This is a baseball town first and foremost. Not many Tiger fans feel he was overpaid one penny and feel he was in fact underpaid. Its just too bad Dombrowski didn't manage his bullpen roster as well as the offensive team he put together.


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    Default Re: Miguel Cabrera 10-year deal with the Tigers worth $300M

    Judging by advanced metrics, teams are not paying for past performance near as much anymore. The move they are kicking themselves over was letting Scherzer walk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yisman View Post
    like I said, maybe the worst contract in MLB history

    other moronic deals were given to guys who were actually free agents.

    In this case, the Tigers had a player at the beginning of his decline with TWO YEARS LEFT ON THE DEAL. They chose to give him a monster contract for years when he probably will miss a lot of games, and even when he plays, won't be at his peak.
    As a 40 year Tigers fan, I regrettably will say this was a sharp prediction.


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