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    Default Let's discuss the upcoming 2017 MLB season

    Looking at the AL East:

    Orioles: Look very similar to last years team. Not much has changed. I do expect a much better year from Jones.
    Even with their big bats and stadium they still were 12th in Runs.

    Red Sox: No Ortiz but now Sale. I don't see any glaring weaknesses. Top to bottom a solid lineup, a very VERY good Bullpen. Rotation with Sale, Price, Porcello, Pomeranz and Wright should keep them in a lot of games. Do you see any weaknesses?

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    Yankees: Team with a world class BP and a lot of questions!!!

    Chapman and Betances alone makes this team dangerous. Any lead after 7 innings will be golden. Rotation is shaky, not sure what to expect. Could be sneaky good if Sabathia and Severino come through but that is a big IF. Green is a little shaky too. Offense is not bad but I would prefer a little more power. Who can we count on to hit more than 25 HR's? I would not be surprised if no one hit over 22....

    This team is still in rebounding mode and have a lot of prospects in the minors now. This team will be dangerous in 2019, not so much right now. Anything over 82 wins would be a surprise for me.

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    http://www.fantasyalarm.com/articles...agent-tracker/


    Catchers
    TEAM
    CONTRACT
    COMMENT
    Welington Castillo
    BAL
    1-yr, $6M
    The deal includes a second year with a $7 million player option. Castillo went .264-14-68 last year and should produce similarly this season.*
    Jason Castro
    MIN
    3-yr, $24M
    A strong defender who really can't hit. Nothing more than a low end second catcher in mixed leagues at best.*
    A.J. Ellis
    MIA
    1-yr, $2.5M*
    He will likely play around 30-35 games as the backup to J.T. Realmuto.
    Ryan Hanigan
    PHI
    Minor lg.
    He's a nice glove but it's been years since he was worth anything other than a $1 bid in league specific setups.*
    Nick Hundley
    SF
    1-yr, $2M
    Gives the Giants a solid veteran backup to Buster Posey.
    A.J. Pierzynski
    *
    *
    Wants to play one more season.*
    Wilson Ramos
    TB
    2-yr, $12/5M
    The deal could be worth $18.5 million if the incentives are hit. On his outlook see Offseason Injuries.*
    David Ross
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    Unless something changes drastically he will retire a World Champion.*
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    Kurt Suzuki
    ATL
    1-yr,. $1.5M
    There's another $2.5 million in incentives in there for Suzuki who will share playing time with Tyler Flowers behind the dish.*
    Josh Thole
    ARI
    Minor lg.*
    With Iannetta and Herrmann ahead of him, it would take an injury for Thole to even make the club.
    Matt Wieters
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    After accepting a one year qualyfying offer last season he's looking to hit it big this offseason. See this Ray's Ramblings piece.*
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    First Basemen
    TEAM
    CONTRACT
    COMMENT
    Pedro Alvarez
    *
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    Still has 25 homer power. Still waiting for a team.
    Ike Davis
    LAD
    Minor lg.
    It will be a struggle for him to carve out a role of significance.*
    Edwin Encarnacion
    CLE
    3-yr, $60M
    The top slugger on the market, EE is getting more than the $60 million listed. For the details see - Encarnacion is an Indian.*
    Adam LaRoche
    *
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    Will he try to rekindle his career or remain with his family?
    Adam Lind
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    A platoon option, someone could find themselves a nice bargain after Lind's down 2016.
    James Loney
    TEX
    Minor lg.*
    Signed a minor league deal with the Rangers. Who will he battle for playing time, Jurickson Profar? Josh Hamilton? Maybe Joey Gallo?
    Justin Morneau
    *
    *
    Not the hitter he once was, but still a servicable bat.
    Kendrys Morales
    TOR
    3-yr, $33M
    For more on the signing of Morales see Off-Season Dealings.
    Mitch Moreland
    BOS
    1-yr, $5M
    He has a Gold Glove so he will push HanRam to the DH role. Moreland won't play versus lefties given his career .673 OPS against them.*
    Brandon Moss
    KC
    2-yr, $12M
    He will replace Kendrys Morales. For more on Moss see Health, Rankings, Signings.*
    Mike Napoli
    TEX
    *
    Looking to get paid as the top power bat on the secondary market. Seems like it's gonna be the Rangers who add his services.*
    David Ortiz *
    BOS
    1-yr, $16M
    The Sox picked up the contract just in case after Ortiz went .315-38-127 in his final season. He won't be returning.*
    Nick Swisher*
    *
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    At least he's made millions and has a hot wife.*
    Mark Teixeira
    *
    *
    He's expected to retire after an impressive career.*
    Mark Reynolds
    COL
    Minor lg.
    Don't know why he couldn't get a big league deal, or why he went back to Colorado. No line to playing time.
    Second Basemen
    TEAM
    CONTRACT
    COMMENT
    Aaron Hill
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    *
    A versatile veteran who is nothing more than a bench presence on an upper division club.
    Chase Utley
    LAD
    1-yr, $2M
    Will remain with the Dodgers.*
    Neil Walker
    NYM
    1-yr, $17.2M QO
    He was off to a fantastic season last year before it derailed due to a back injury and subsequent surgery. He comes with obvious risk, but it's nice power at the keystone.
    Josh Wilson
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    Shortstops
    TEAM
    CONTRACT
    COMMENT
    Erick Aybar
    SD
    Minot lg.
    It wil be Aybar or Luis Sardinas at shortstop for the Padres. Have to think that the 33 year old Aybar is the one that emerges.*
    Clint Barmes
    *
    *
    Decided to retire back in May.
    Andres Blanco
    PHI
    1-yr, $3M
    Blanco can play all three spots in the outfield but he's nothing other than a depth option in NL-only leagues.*
    Lourdes Gurriel
    TOR
    7-yr, $22M
    Slashed .277/.362/.426 in just under 1,100 at-bats in Cuba's top professional league, including a slash line of .344/.407/.560 with 10 homers in 245 plate appearances during the 2015-16 season. He also offers above-average speed and can play all around the infield as well as all three outfield positions.
    Brendan Ryan
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    Third Basemen
    TEAM
    CONTRACT
    COMMENT
    Daniel Descalso
    ARI
    1-yr, $1.5M
    He can't hit, .242 lifetime with little power, but he's a solid veteran depth add.*
    Martin Prado
    MIA
    3-yr, $40M
    Prado will be paid handsomely to continue being what he has always been - a professional hitter. He hit .305 with 75 RBI and 70 runs scored last season.
    Justin Turner
    LAD
    4-yr, $64M
    The best power hitting option at the hot corner on the market returns to the Dodgers. For more see Ray's Rambling's Pre Holiday Talk. *
    Luis Valbuena
    LAA
    2-yr, $15M
    *Sounds like he will potentially start the year at first to cover Pujols, but he's gonna see work at third base as well.*
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    Outfielders
    TEAM
    CONTRACT
    COMMENT
    Jose Bautista
    TOR
    1-yr, $18.5M
    The deal can be worth up to $60 million over three years to return to Toronto where he will be expected to be the same guy as always - big-time power.
    Carlos Beltran
    HOU
    1-yr, $16M
    Coming off an impressive power season that nearly saw him go 30-100. The astros paid a steep price hoping for similar production at age 40 (in April).
    Gregor Blanco
    ARI
    Minor Lg.
    Will battle for a backup spot in the outfield in Arizona.
    Peter Bourjos
    CWS
    Minor Lg.
    More glove than bat.
    Michael Bourn
    *
    *
    The Orioles are interested in bringing him back.*
    Yoenis Cespedes
    NYM
    4-yr, $110M
    He gets the highest AAV of any position player in baseball history other than Miggy ($31M) at $27.5. An impressive talent, but he has trouble staying on the field.*
    Chris Coghlan
    PHI
    Minor lg.*
    Coughlan can play the infield and the outfield, and he'll likely be a solid NL-only play in '17.
    Coco Crisp
    *
    *
    Someone will sign the veteran.*
    Rajai Davis
    OAK
    1-yr, $6M
    He will run, steal 30 bases, get on base at a league average pace, and of course be traded by the A's at some point.
    David DeJesus
    *
    *
    His wife is so hot.
    Ian Desmond
    COL
    5-yr, $70M
    Four 20/20 seasons in five years led to the huge contract. For a breakdown, see the Winter Meetings Report.*
    Dexter Fowler
    STL
    5-yr., $82.5M
    An on base stud, the Cardinals basically get a guy to replace the player they let go last year (Jason Heyward). See The Aftermath.
    Sam Fuld
    *
    *
    Still working his way back from shoulder surgery.*
    Craig Gentry
    *
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    Carlos Gomez
    TEX
    1-yr, $11.5M
    Gomez turned down multi-year deals to return to the Rangers where he finally found his groove late in the year. With health, success will follow.
    Chris Heisey
    WAS
    1-yr, $1.4M
    Far from an impact player in fantasy, Heisey appeared in 83 games for the Nats last season and batted .216 with nine home runs, 17 RBI and 18 runs scored.
    Matt Holliday
    NYY
    1-yr, $13M
    The veteran can still power the baseball effectively.*A solid veteran signing for the Yankees. With health, he should basically replace Beltran's lost production.
    Jon Jay
    CHC
    1-yr, $8M
    A professional hitter who profiles best as a 4th major league outfielder. He will likely share center with Albert Almora.*
    Matt Joyce
    OAK
    2-yr, $11M
    It's great to be left-handed. A platoon option if there ever was one, Joyce was paid rather handsomely for who he is at this point of his career.*
    Nate McLouth
    *
    *
    The end of the line?
    Logan Morrison
    TB
    1-yr, $2.5M
    LoMo is a great guy, but he has never lived up to expectations, not close.
    Angel Pagan
    *
    *
    Can still get it done, but back woes continue to concern as his age increases.
    Colby Rasmus*
    TB
    1-yr, $5M
    Power, streakiness, ugly hair. You get it all with this psuedo-slugger who will never meet the sky-high expectations he arrived with.
    Josh Reddick
    HOU
    4-yr, $32M
    I think the Astros overpaid.*
    Ben Revere*
    LAA
    1-yr, $4M
    Revere hit .300 with 20 steals each year from 2014-16 before last year's flameout (.217 with 14 thefts). Should rebound.
    Sean Rodriguez
    ATL
    2-yr, $11.5M
    Rewarded for his best season, S-Rod went .270/.349/.510 with 18 homers in 300 ABs while playing 20 games at 1B, 2B, SS and OF.
    Michael Saunders
    PHI
    1-yr, $9M
    The deal inclusde a club option for $11 million. Saunders starred in the first half last season before falling flat on his face in the 2nd half. A career of unfulfilled expectations.
    Travis Snider
    TEX
    Minor Lg.
    Is he still playing? He signed a minor league deal with the Ranger.s
    Jose Tabata *
    *
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    Is he still playing?
    Mark Trumbo
    BAL
    3-yr, $37.5M
    Ended up with about half of what he was hoping for. Who is Trumbo? Check out this Ray's Ramblings piece.*
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    Starting Pitchers
    TEAM
    CONTRACT
    COMMENT
    Brett Anderson
    CHC
    1-yr, $3.5M
    *He could earn up to $10 million. He won't. He was signed as rotation depth and will likely makes starts... Until he breaks of course.*
    Bronson Arroyo
    CIN
    Minor lg.*
    The soon to be 40 year old righty is trying to return after having been out of the bigs since 2014.
    Brandon Beachy*
    *
    *
    His arm is just broken.*
    Andrew Cashner
    TEX
    1-yr, $10M
    Cashner's signing likely means Derek Holland and Colby Lewis won't be back. Cashner is long on talent, but short on production as he always underperforms.
    Bartolo Colon
    ATL
    1-yr, $12.5M
    While Jeff Mans likes him loaded with sour cream, bacon and chives, the Braves will take him as is after going 15-8 with a 3.43 ERA, a 1.21 WHIP and 128 strikeouts over 197.1 innings for the Mets last season. The soon-to-be 44 year old defied all sensible logic after he posted a 4.0 K/BB last season despite throwing a fastball that never topped 88 mph almost 90-percent of the time he pitched.
    John Danks*
    ATL
    Minor lg.
    Worst lefty on the market? Not really sure why the Braves seem intent on signing every old guy on the bump...
    Jorge de la Rosa
    *
    *
    Worst lefty on the market? Slightly better than Danks.*
    R.A. Dickey
    ATL
    1-yr, $7.5M
    Dickey threw 169.2 innings last season for the Jays with a 4.46 ERA and 1.37 WHIP. The 42 year old knuckleballer is merely an innings eater at this point.
    Scott Feldman
    CIN
    1-yr, $2.3M
    He's a swingman at this point. He will probably shoot for the 5th starting spot, but expect both starts and relief appearances this season.*
    Jaime Garcia
    ATL
    1-yr, $12M*
    The Cards picked up his option.
    Jeremy Guthrie
    *
    *
    Hopes to get a bullpen gig. He's pitching in Australian Winter Ball.*
    Jason Hammel
    KC
    2-yr, $16M
    Can't throw 180-innings, can't, but he's a solid depth starter. Not getting the interest he hoped for.*
    Jeremy Hellickson
    PHI
    1-yr, $17.2M QO
    After leading the Phillies with 12 wins, Hellickson opted to accept the team's qualifying offer. He finished the 2016 season with a 3.71 ERA and tied career highs with 32 starts and 189 innings pitched. He also struck out a career-best 154 batters, while walking just 45.
    Derek Holland
    CWS
    1-yr, $6M
    Holland will be asked to take the rotation spot of Chris Sale. For his outlook see Signings on the Hill.*
    Daniel Hudson
    PIT
    2-yr, $11M
    Seems like every team in baseball with a hole in the pen was looking. The Pirates nabbed him. See Minor Movement.*
    Edwin Jackson
    *
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    Cliff Lee
    *
    *
    The once great lefty will never pitch again.
    Cory Luebke
    CWS
    Minor Lg.*
    He'll be 32 in March and had an ERA over nine last year. Just a body.
    Kris Medlen
    ATL
    Minor Lg.
    He's had about 37 surgeries on his arm but he keeps coming back.
    Matt Moore
    SF
    1-yr, $7M
    See why the Giants brought him back.
    Charlie Morton
    HOU
    2-yr, $14M
    The Astros hope the groundballer can round out their rotation.
    Jon Niese
    *
    *
    Coming off a terrible season with an ERA in the five's, but he is left-handed.*
    Ivan Nova
    PIT
    3-yr, $26M
    Seemed to resurrect his career in Pittsburgh where he will return. See Mound Movement.*
    Jake Peavy
    *
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    The righty can still get batters out when he's healthy. The Padres are interested.*
    Josh Tomlin
    *
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    He can't keep the ball in the yard, but when he does he's effective.
    Edinson Volquez
    MIA
    2-yr, $22M
    He stinks.*The Marlins have a need though so they signed the veteran righty.
    Jered Weaver
    *
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    The Padres are kicking the tires.*
    C.J. Wilson
    *
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    Don't hate him cause he's beautiful.
    Travis Wood
    *
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    Upwards of 10 teams are circling.
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    Relief Pitchers
    TEAM
    CONTRACT
    COMMENT
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    Joaquin Benoit
    PHI
    1-yr, $7.5M
    The aging vet can stll get batters out, he's still got big time stuff, so with health the Phillies will likely be happy.*
    Jonathan Broxton
    STL
    2-yr, $7.5M
    Will remain with the Cardinals.*
    Trevor Cahill*
    SD
    1-yr, $1.75M
    Cahill will get a chance to vie for a rotation spot with the Padres after posting a 2.74 ERA and 1.28 WHIP in 65.2 innings last season.*
    Brett Cecil
    STL
    4-yr, $30M
    Coming off a down season cause of injury, he will allow the Cards to roll out yet another impressive arm late in games.
    Santiago Casilla
    OAK
    2-yr, $11M
    Seems like Casilla will setup for Ryan Madson, though Madson struggled enough last season that Casilla slipping into the 9th at some point seems possible.
    Aroldis Chapman
    NYY
    5-yr, $86M
    Got paid to close for the Yankees. For more see the Winter Meetings Report.
    Jesse Chavez
    LAA
    1-yr, $5.75M
    While he pitched out of the bullpen exclusively last year, the Angels intend to use him as a starter.* He posted a 4.43 ERA and 1.33 WHIP in 62 appearances between the Blue Jays and the Dodgers and will hope the pitcher-friendly environment of Angel Stadium helps him reduce the number of home runs allowed this year. In 2016, he allowed 12 home runs over 67 innings.
    Tim Collins
    WAS
    Minor Lg.
    Small, but can get guys out when healthy.
    Aaron Crow
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    Michael Dunn
    COL
    3-yr, $19M
    Dunn is a lefty, and if you can get lefties out you get paid. See Signing on the Hill.
    Dana Eveland
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    Neftali Feliz
    MIL
    1-yr, $5.35M*
    He will likely battle Corey Knebel for 9th inning duties in Milwaukee.
    Luke Hochevar
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    Greg Holland
    COL
    1-yr, $7M
    Could earn up to $10 million, Holland will likely battle Adam Ottavino at some point for 9th inning work. Could happen early if his arm is healthy.
    J.P. Howell
    TOR
    1-yr, $3M
    The 33 year old lefty had a down 2016 with a 1.40 WHIP and 4.09 ERA.
    Kenley Jansen
    LAD
    5-yr, $80M
    Got $80 million to return to the Dodgers to continue to dominate the 9th inning. See Pre Holiday Talk.
    Casey Janssen
    BOS
    Minor lg.*
    Just a veteran add for organizational depth.
    Kevin Jepsen
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    Brandon League
    KC
    Minor lg.*
    At one point he had a hellacious sinker.*
    Boone Logan
    CLE
    1-yr, $5.5M
    A dominating lefty against lefties. He cannot be stopped there. See this Ray's Ramblings.
    Javier Lopez
    *
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    Still murder on lefties but he's decided that he's thrown his last big-league pitch.
    Brian Matusz
    *
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    Mark Melancon
    SF
    4-yr, $62M
    The "third" closer on the market, Melancon will lock down the 9th for the Giants.*For more see the*Winter Meetings Report.
    Joe Nathan
    WAS
    Minor lg.
    The 42 year old pitched just 6.1 innings last season. He will get a change to earn up to $3 million in incentives.
    Josh Outman
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    Yusmeiro Petit
    LAA
    Minor lg.*
    A nice final man on any staff, he has solid stuff, can start and relieve as well.
    Cesar Ramos
    PHI
    Minor lg.*
    Will get a shot to make the majors after a dreadful 2016.*
    Sergio Romo
    LAD
    1-yr, $3M
    Can still get batters out, but his slurvy slider, when not breaking, is a base hit magnet. See This Ray's Ramblings article.*
    Marc Rzepczynski
    SEA
    2-yr, $11M
    He can get lefties out with the best of them and will fill a prime setup role for the Mariners.*
    Fernando Salas
    NYM
    1-yr, $3M
    In 17.1 innings with the Mets last season he had 19 punchouts and no walks.
    Sergio Santos
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    Joe Smith
    TOR
    1-yr, $3M
    For more see this Ray's Ramblings article.*
    Craig Stammen
    *
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    Drew Storen
    CIN
    1-yr, $3M
    Will likely start in a setup capacity, but the Reds seem open to letting the 9th play out based on spring performance.*
    Koji Uehara
    CHC
    1-yr, $6M
    Dude can still get batters out at an elite rate. See Signings on the Hill.*
    Jordan Walden
    ATL
    Minor lg. deal*
    A big arm, but shoulder woes have derailed his career.*
    Brad Ziegler
    MIA
    2-yr, $16M
    He has 52 saves as a ground ball machine the last two seasons. Not the prototypical 9th inning arm, he will slot back into a setup role in Miami.
    * Contract includes an option
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    ** Players who received qualifying offers are in bold.*
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    Regular-season win totals from the Atlantis in Reno:


    Cubs 95.5
    Indians 92.5
    Dodgers 91.5
    Nationals 90.5
    Red Sox 90.5
    Mets 89.5
    Astros 87.5
    Cardinals 87.5
    Giants 87.5
    Blue Jays 86.5
    Rangers 86.5
    Mariners 85.5
    Pirates 85.5
    Tigers 85.5
    Orioles 84.5
    Yankees 83.5
    Royals 80.5
    Rockies 79.5
    Diamondbacks 78.5
    Marlins 77.5
    Angels 76.5
    Rays 75.5
    Reds 73.5
    White Sox 73.5
    Brewers 72.5
    Phillies 72.5
    Braves 71.5
    Twins 70.5
    Athletics 66.5
    Padres 64.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kelly View Post
    Regular-season win totals from the Atlantis in Reno:


    Cubs 95.5
    Indians 92.5
    Dodgers 91.5
    Nationals 90.5
    Red Sox 90.5
    Mets 89.5
    Astros 87.5
    Cardinals 87.5
    Giants 87.5
    Blue Jays 86.5
    Rangers 86.5
    Mariners 85.5
    Pirates 85.5
    Tigers 85.5
    Orioles 84.5
    Yankees 83.5
    Royals 80.5
    Rockies 79.5
    Diamondbacks 78.5
    Marlins 77.5
    Angels 76.5
    Rays 75.5
    Reds 73.5
    White Sox 73.5
    Brewers 72.5
    Phillies 72.5
    Braves 71.5
    Twins 70.5
    Athletics 66.5
    Padres 64.5

    are those the opener's ?

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    I think SD will struggle to win 60.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FairWarning View Post
    I think SD will struggle to win 60.
    Braves won’t be much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVic View Post
    Braves won’t be much better.
    Probably not but they have a much brighter future.

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    Why the Twins higher than Padres?

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    Because the White Sox are in their division and the WS will be a shit show this season. Arizona and Colorado will improve from last year so Padres will have it tough.
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    MLB—2017 World Baseball Classic Futures Book Odds

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    Futures Odds For 2017 WBC Sees Dominican Republic Favorites

    The Futures odds for the 2017 World Baseball Classic are out and the Dominican Republic and two of the tournament’s host nations—the United States and Japan—are odds favorites at the Westgate Las Vegas SportsBook. Let’s take a look at the opening numbers for the 16 competitors in this annual international Baseball competition which culminates with its championship game on March 22 at beautiful Dodger Stadium in Los Angeles.



    Westgate Las Vegas SuperBook Releases Odds For 2017 World Baseball Classic
    Opening odds from the Westgate Las Vegas SuperBook for the2017 World Baseball Classichave been released and the Dominican Republic (5/2) are slight favorites over the United States (3/1) and Japan (3/1) who will be two of four nations hosting games—Mexico and South Korea being the two others—in the 4th installment of the annual tournament scheduled to be held from March 9-22 and which features 16 teams.
    Qualifying for the 2017 World Baseball Classic was held from Feb. 11 to Sept. 25, 2016 with all teams who participated in the 2015 WBC automatically qualifying for the tournament except the four nations who finished in last place in their respective pools—Australia, Brazil, Mexico and Spain. The Qualifiers were organized into four separate double-elimination tourneys and Australia (100/1), Colombia (100/1), Mexico (25/1) and Israel (100/1) all emerged victorious, qualifying for those last four spots in the field of 16.
    Pool A features one of the host nations South Korea (Gocheok Sky Dome, Seoul), Chinese Taipei (80/1), Israel and Netherlands (25/1); Pool B includes host nation Japan (Tokyo Dome, Tokyo), Australia, China (100/1) and Cuba (18/1); on the2017 WBC Schedule in Pool C, there’s one of the host countries, the United States (Marlins Park, Miami, Petco Park, San Diego, Dodger Stadium, Los Angeles), Canada (25/1), Colombia (100/1) and tourney odds favorites Dominican Republic; and Group D includes host nation Mexico (Estadio de Béisbol Charros de Jalisco y Atletismo), Italy (60/1), Puerto Rico (10/1) and Venezuela (15/1).






    MLB Network owns the exclusive English-speaking broadcasting rights to the 2017 WBC while ESPN Deportes has the exclusive Spanish-speaking rights in the US. Sportsnet and RDS (Canada), Tele Rebelde (Cuba), La Tele Tuya (Venezuela) and Sky Sport (Italy) will be among the networks airing games.
    Here are the opening odds from the SuperBook—no opening numbers had changed by Christmas Day—for the 2017 WBC. Offshore sportsbooks have their 2016 MLB World Series Futures Book odds up for some time.


    Odds to Win 2017 World Baseball Classic—Westgate Las Vegas SuperBook
    Dominican Republic 5/2
    United States 3/1
    Japan 3/1
    Puerto Rico 10/1
    South Korea 12/1
    Venezuela 15/1
    Cuba 18/1
    Netherlands 25/1
    Canada 25/1
    Mexico 25/1
    Italy 60/1
    Chinese Taipei 80/1
    Australia 100/1
    Colombia 100/1
    Israel 100/1
    China 100/1







    WBC Always Wide Open, But Tough Tournament For Longshots 25/1 and Higher
    2016 Nippon Professional Baseball League MVP and 2B Tetsuto Yamada (Tokyo Yakult Swallows) and Japan (2006, 2009 WNC champions) are currently ranked #1 by the WBSC while Nelson Cruz (Seattle Mariners) and defending tournament champions Dominican Republic are at #13 with 1B-C Buster Posey (San Francisco Giants) the United States—to be managed by Jim Leyland—at #2. But it will be the WBC Team Rosters , actually caring about winning, Pitching and Defense which will ultimately determine the champion later this Winter.
    The 2017 WBC’s 2nd Round will be played in Tokyo (Tokyo Dome) and San Diego (Petco Park) with the Championship Round set to be held in historic Chavez Ravine, Dodger Stadium in Los Angeles with the Championship Game on March 22 (MLBN, 9 p.m. EST/6 p.m. PST).

    2017 WBC FUTURES BOOK PICK:Japan 3/1 (Westgate Las Vegas SuperBook)

    STORY LINK:

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/picks/mlb/futures-odds-for-2017-world-baseball-classic-sees-dominican-republic-as-favorites/77221

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    Handful of National League Teams Seem to Offer Potential W’s in This Market
    Despite having to wait until October to potentially cash Futures Book bets in this market, the Team Win Total market can be a wise one in which to get involved with a winner (Over or Under) guaranteed for every team as opposed to World Series, Pennantand player props markets like Home Run leader where (unless a tie) only one name ends up bringing its backers happiness and a payout.
    The NL looks rich with possibilities with both the NL East’s Washington Nationals (10/1 to win World Series, BetPhoenix) and New York Mets (12/1 to win World Series, BetPhoenix) number seeming about 5 games too high (90½, Atlantis) while Maikel Franco and the Philadelphia Phillies (100/1 to win World Series, BetPhoenix) should be able to squeeze out 74 to 80 wins and top their total of 72½ (Atlantis).


    2017 MLB SEASON TEAM WIN TOTAL PICKS: Cubs Over 95½, Nationals Under 90½, Mets Under 89½, Phillies Over 72½ (Atlantis)


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    A book to read that people might want to give it a try from amazon.... it is called



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    Tampa:

    Looking to bet unders with them. I know they are a good home run hitting team but they don't have many high OBP% players and their rotation is pretty good. This team won't do anything with the current roster, not enough offense and too many games vs Boston, Toronto and Balty. I do like their pitching, expecting a better year from Archer and 1-5 are all very capable. Good BP so this team can win games if they are close.

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    White Sox:

    No more Sale and now Quintana is the ACE. He has been durable, 200+ IP and ERA under 3.5 4 years straight. But the other guys in the rotation are VERY scary. Shields? He is a gas can, Rodon is very talented but very inconsistent. Giolito is too young to trust and Gonzalez is average. I do not like the rotation at all.

    Lineup is decent. Frazier and Abreu can combine for 60+ HR's, a lot of just a guys in lineup. Capable but nothing too much to scream about. Don't like their defense much either. BP is a question mark too.

    This team will be lucky to win 75.

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    does this team have any speed on the bases now Eaton has gone ?

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    Indians:

    World Series contenders once again. Sneaky good lineup with Encarnacion added. If he hits 30+ HRs that will be huge for this team, lineup is very good at getting on base. Kluber Carrasco both ace caliber, Salazar, Bauer etc are solid low end rotation guys.

    Team is solid on defense and is masterfully managed by Francona. Remember the Indians were very beat up last season. Still won 94. If healthy and EE can knock em out all year this team will be even more dangerous. Cleveland should win 95+

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManchesterUk View Post
    does this team have any speed on the bases now Eaton has gone ?
    Funny that you say that because I was thinking will anyone on this team going to have 15+ SB's?

    Prospect Moncada would be a speedster on the bases. If he played a whole season he could steal 30+... Team speed is lacking, among other things. I don't see this team doing much of the little things like defense, speed. Will be HR hitting and power pitching.

    I will look for overs with them. Especially at hitters parks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baseball Zealot View Post
    White Sox:

    No more Sale and now Quintana is the ACE. He has been durable, 200+ IP and ERA under 3.5 4 years straight. But the other guys in the rotation are VERY scary. Shields? He is a gas can, Rodon is very talented but very inconsistent. Giolito is too young to trust and Gonzalez is average. I do not like the rotation at all.

    Lineup is decent. Frazier and Abreu can combine for 60+ HR's, a lot of just a guys in lineup. Capable but nothing too much to scream about. Don't like their defense much either. BP is a question mark too.

    This team will be lucky to win 75.
    I doubt Quintana is there after July. Good chance he isn't there for opening day. Robertson may be moved before April also.

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    If you believe that then under 73.5 is a solid wager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baseball Zealot View Post
    Funny that you say that because I was thinking will anyone on this team going to have 15+ SB's?

    Prospect Moncada would be a speedster on the bases. If he played a whole season he could steal 30+... Team speed is lacking, among other things. I don't see this team doing much of the little things like defense, speed. Will be HR hitting and power pitching.

    I will look for overs with them. Especially at hitters parks.
    Yep I wouldnt know prospects or anything until they actually play.Have huge belief that having guys who are always threats to steal are a massive + to a line up.Manufacturing runs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baseball Zealot View Post
    If you believe that then under 73.5 is a solid wager.
    They are actively shopping Robertson right now. Houston wants Quintana bad and is the frontrunner now that the tampering scandal is over. They can part with more prospects knowing they are getting extra picks from St Louis.

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    Angels: problem at 1st-Albert is a yr older and yr slower. 2nd base is up in the air, not likely to have anybody outstanding based upon current player salary. Left field is still a puzzle, won't find a day-to-day player out there. BP is still suspect; starting rotation may not be as good as one thinks, lot of arms had trouble last yr. Catcher maybe able to build upon last yrs play, but doubt it. Mike is still too rigid for today's player, not a good trait in the modern world. How long does Trout stay focused?

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    I was worried about Reyes.

    With Reyes going down, do the Cubs have any competition in the NL Central? Not looking like it, but maybe the Cards will find an ace out of nowhere.

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    Really shitty division other than the cubs. The under 94 1/2 looks like a good bet until you factor in who they play the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BumgarnerWins View Post
    I was worried about Reyes.

    With Reyes going down, do the Cubs have any competition in the NL Central? Not looking like it, but maybe the Cards will find an ace out of nowhere.
    Was Reyes going to close or be the #5? There's always the hope for Cards fans that Rosenthal rebounds. He was terrible last year. Wacha has had some injury issues. I wonder if he would be better served in the bullpen.

    As for the Pirates, there is upside. Glasnow and Taillon for a full season and a healthy Cole, and that's a real strong 1-2-3. And moving McCutcheon out of CF is a positive. He had a weak defensive number last year.

    I think the Reds win more than they won in 2016. Their bullpen was historically bad; dead last in ERA, FIP, XFIP, HR rate, walk rate per 9. But as bad as it was, they actually weren't too bad the final 6 weeks or so. I think Cincinnati will separate from Milwaukee, who has a dreadful lineup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baseball Zealot View Post
    Funny that you say that because I was thinking will anyone on this team going to have 15+ SB's?

    Prospect Moncada would be a speedster on the bases. If he played a whole season he could steal 30+... Team speed is lacking, among other things. I don't see this team doing much of the little things like defense, speed. Will be HR hitting and power pitching.

    I will look for overs with them. Especially at hitters parks.
    Be careful with overs with that team. Frazier will hit the occasional HR, but doesn't make enough contact or get on base enough. Abreu has regressed after his rookie season. Eaton was the table setter and he's gone. That lineup is bad. I wouldn't be surprised if the Twins overtake them this season.

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    Abreu has regressed but is still very good...

    Season Team G PA HR R RBI SB BB% K% ISO BABIP AVG OBP SLG wOBA wRC+ BsR Off Def WAR
    2014 White Sox 145 622 36 80 107 3 8.2 % 21.1 % .264 .356 .317 .383 .581 .411 167 -2.9 43.1 -14.4 5.3
    2015 White Sox 154 668 30 88 101 0 5.8 % 21.0 % .212 .333 .290 .347 .502 .361 129 -1.0 21.6 -14.8 3.0
    2016 White Sox 159 695 25 67 100 0 6.8 % 18.0 % .175 .327 .293 .353 .468 .349 118 -5.7 9.4 -17.3 1.6


    Lets look deeper into his regression .. Less K's , more walks, similar RBIs. A 30 HR, 100+ RBI, .300 avg is fully in grasp.

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    Season Team GB/FB LD% GB% FB% IFFB% HR/FB IFH% BUH% Pull% Cent% Oppo% Soft% Med% Hard%
    2014 White Sox 1.46 23.3 % 45.5 % 31.2 % 8.2 % 26.9 % 7.7 % 0.0 % 39.9 % 34.0 % 26.1 % 17.0 % 46.6 % 36.4 %
    2015 White Sox 1.47 20.7 % 47.3 % 32.1 % 10.5 % 19.7 % 4.0 % 0.0 % 37.6 % 35.9 % 26.6 % 16.9 % 48.9 % 34.2 %
    2016 White Sox 1.37 21.3 % 45.5 % 33.3 % 11.2 % 14.8 % 7.4 % 0.0 % 36.0 % 34.1 % 29.9 % 20.3 % 47.0 % 32.7 %
    Total - - - 1.43 21.7 % 46.1 % 32.2 % 10.1 % 20.0 % 6.3 % 0.0 % 37.7 % 34.7 % 27.6 % 18.1 % 47.6 % 34.3 %

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    HR/FB ratio should go back to the norm..

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    HR/FB ratio should go back to the norm..
    I'm not sure about that. When someone comes in and takes the league by storm, the league adjusts. A WRC falloff from 167 to 118. The slugging percentage down over 100 points from 2014? That is big. Not saying he can't refind his 2014 form, but I won't assume he will. He's going to have to prove it first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManchesterUk View Post
    does this team have any speed on the bases now Eaton has gone ?
    SS Tim Anderson could easily steal 30 bags. Rookie outfielders Adam Engel and Charlie Tilson have excellent speed so does Moncada as BZ mentioned.

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    Westgate will have O/U out on the 21st

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