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    Greetings from Salt Lake City where I witnessed Gonzaga and Arizona advance to the Sweet 16 this past Saturday in the NCAA men's Division I basketball tournament.

    The 420-mile trek from Las Vegas took fewer than five hours to navigate, thanks to speed limits on Interstate 15 set at a generous 80 miles per hour.

    I stopped in Mesquite for a quick look at the sports book offerings at neighboring properties, Virgin River Hotel and Eureka Casino.

    Virgin River offers an independent sports book managed by the capable Zach Franzi.

    Zach is the son of Jack Franzi, a longtime Las Vegas oddsmaker with ties tracing back to Michael Gaughan at the old Barbary Coast.

    Virgin River's sports book deserves high praise.

    Reduced juice (-108) was offered on college basketball sides, the race book was alive with activity and a willing staff provided all the answers to the important questions (limits of $5,000 were available for the first week of the NCAA tournament).

    Contrast Virgin River to Eureka's William Hill outlet where the ticket writer closed for business before the last games were complete and where the betting kiosk was temporarily experiencing technical difficulties, a constant state of affairs if you're familiar with the William Hill operation in Nevada.

    Back on the road to Salt Lake City, I wanted to join my fellow alums of Northwestern University to watch the Wildcats in second-round action of the NCAA tournament.

    As widely-documented, NU was making its first NCAA tourney appearance in the 79-year history of the basketball program.

    Upon arriving at Vivint Smart Home Arena, formerly named Energy Solutions Arena and before that the Delta Center, I noticed two bronze statues honoring the two greatest players in Utah Jazz hoop history.

    It was fitting John Stockton's statue was shown delivering a pass only a few feet from Karl Malone's likeness as he was shown driving toward the basket for a layup.

    The names of the statues were perfect as Stockton's sculpture was titled "Threading the Needle" while Malone's figure was named "Special Delivery."

    Inside the arena, I saw an aging Mark Eaton wandering the narrow corridors of an arena desperately in need of a facelift.

    (To be precise, the arena needed a facelift, not Eaton.)

    The old Delta Center was built in 1991 and a long-overdue $125 million renovation project will begin after the Jazz complete the 2016-17 season.

    Back to Stockton and Malone, the pair will be honored, along with teammates from the 1996-97 Western Conference championship team, this Wednesday night at halftime of the Knicks-Jazz game scheduled to be televised by ESPN.

    Stockton hit a three-pointer to beat the buzzer and the Houston Rockets in Game 6 of the Western Conference Finals, sending Utah to its first-ever NBA Finals appearance, where the Jazz eventually fell to Michael Jordan and the Bulls in six games.

    Malone won the league MVP title that season after averaging 27.4 points and 9.9 rebounds per game in leading Utah to a franchise-record 64 wins in the regular season.

    I faintly remember a 1997 NBA Finals series price of Pick 'em (-110 either way) despite Chicago's championship pedigree and Utah's inability to win a title.

    One last impression of the Stockton and Malone statues presented in front of the arena: Everyone knows about Karl Malone's work in the weight room with his wide shoulders supporting bulging biceps, but the artist of the bronze statue did an excellent job depicting Stockton's strength as well with thighs as big as tree trunks and perfect balance, a secret to excellent play at the point guard position.



    TRADING MONEY: I made only one bet on the games I attended.

    I took St. Mary's +5.5 (-108) over Arizona.

    I was delighted over the first 15 minutes of the game when the Gaels led the struggling Wildcats, 24-14.

    And then the real game began.

    Arizona asserted its superiority over St. Mary's during the final 25 minutes of the game by outscoring the scrappy but overmatched athletes from Moraga, 55-36.

    The Wildcats shot 59% from the field in the second half as head coach Sean Miller demanded Arizona's guards to either drive to the basket or feed the team's low-post players.

    St. Mary's and Arizona played in private scrimmages three of the past four seasons so there was plenty of familiarity and mutual respect on both sides.

    For the remainder of the week's action, I won a few more games than I lost, but a bigger-than-normal bet on Notre Dame (+3) over West Virginia and an ill-advised money-line bet on a dead NIT team erased any hope of making money.

    Notre Dame, like many of its ACC counterparts, disappointed greatly.

    The ACC went 7-8 from 15 games (a miserable 2-13 against the spread) with only North Carolina left standing after the first week of tournament action.

    The mighty ACC looked good in November and December but lost March badly.

    William Hill posted the ACC's number of tourney wins at 11.5 and even a North Carolina championship would not put the proposition OVER the total.

    The Pac-12 (8-1), Big 12 (8-3), Big Ten (8-4) and SEC (7-2) took advantage of the ACC's poor play, exceeding expectations and placing three teams apiece in the Round of 16.


    DO YOUR JOB:
    Here's a quick story from behind the scenes in the race and sports book at Westgate Las Vegas.

    Being a ticket clerk at Westgate requires attention to detail, especially when it comes to big-money payouts and transactions.

    A female ticket writer was recently relieved of her duties after a shortage of $900 from her money drawer.

    The supervisory staff went to the videotape to discover the $900 shortfall occured when the distracted employee paid a customer $450 after her screen clearly stated "Collect $450."

    Turns out, the female employee was spotted on videotape texting throughout the day and the distractions not only led to her shortfall but also her dismissal.

    Westgate ticket clerks average about $800 every month in tips during football season and about half that number during basketball and baseball seasons.

    Starting hourly rates are barely above minimum wage.



    THE WISE OWL: Former Stardust oddsmaker Bobby Beghtel likes two games tonight, one in the NIT and the other in the CBI.

    He's playing a pair of home favorites in Colorado State (-5.5) over Cal-State Bakersfield and Rice (-4.5) over Utah Valley State.

    The Owl's play on Villanova at odds of 14/1 to repeat as NCAA champions went up in smoke when Wisconsin rallied from a 57-50 deficit to pull a mild upset, 65-62.

    Wisconsin's Nigel Hayes, who scored 19 points in the big win, criticized students of the game like Ken Pomeroy and Jeff Sagarin.

    "You have all types of ranking systems, statistics. The thing with all those algorithms is they can't calculate heart, will to win, toughness, desire. And that's the thing we have," said Hayes.

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    No joke, I entered the arena in Salt Lake City about 30 minutes prior to tipoff only to hear the public address announcer reading a PSA about the dangers of sports betting.

    The announcer promoted a website (www.dontbetonit.org).

    Bastards!

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    A young Mark Eaton worked at the Marc C. Bloom tire shop on the corner of Valley View & Lincoln in the city of Buena Park. One day Cypress College coach Don Johnson got a flat tire on the way to Cypress. Guess who fixed it. The rest is history.

    P.S. Believe Johnson is still the winningest JC coach in CA history. Alma Mater of Swen Nater too!

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    Nice writeup. Gonna digest it:

    * Have driven thru Mesquite a few times. A nice excursion from Las Vegas.

    * The Mormons haven't been exposed to EOG yet. Once they sign up for a 60-day trial at Gabewins...I think they'll change their narrow world-view.

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    Will make one prediction. Haven't seen line yet:

    * I believe Mich will be favored over Oregon. I'll say Mich -1.5.

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    Mesquite has some of the most beautiful golf courses in the west...

    Zach Franzi is a good friend of professional sports gambler Jeff Whitelaw from Las Vegas...have had the pleasure of talking sports with the both of them when in Vegas...

    JK....did you travel alone on your excursion? The ride to Utah gets a bit boring...
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    I remember Zach Franzi...he worked for me at a Vegas Restaurant I managed years ago..Jack was a regular customer and I hired him as a favor to Jack.
    Glad to hear he is doing well..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viejo Dinosaur View Post
    Mesquite has some of the most beautiful golf courses in the west...

    Zach Franzi is a good friend of professional sports gambler Jeff Whitelaw from Las Vegas...have had the pleasure of talking sports with the both of them when in Vegas...

    JK....did you travel alone on your excursion? The ride to Utajh gets a bit boring...
    Solo traveler.

    After the St. Mary's loss, the drive home felt like 10 hours instead of five.

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    Wouldn't mind seeing the out-of-Vegas independents like the Virgin River book target the Vegas market with mobile apps.

    As a comparison, once you sign up for the William Hill mobile app, you can make deposits at any of their books, a PT's or Sierra Gold pub, or a 7-11. You can make withdrawals either directly at the book or call to request that a check be sent to you by mail.

    https://www.williamhill.us/faq-new-account/

    So, a Vegas River out could team up with a fairly ubiquitous outfit like Dotty's (if the others listed above didn't want to potentially jeopardize their Will Hill relationship, if inherently exclusive) to take deposits for their app in Las Vegas (and elsewhere in NV).

    One trip to Mesquite to sign up, and your set. And Will Hill even will come to your location for a $500 plus initial deposit signup. So a Virgin River apparently potentially would be able to similarly have an agent in LV to do mobile app signups, perhaps even from a fixed location as well as riding circuit.

    Yeah, the out-of-Vegas book likely would draw mostly sharp action from line-shopping junkies (like me). But they also perhaps would get a big handle boost, serving into a two million total population market rather than a 15,000 total population market.

    I guess the bigs in Vegas theoretically could reciprocate by aggressively marketing into . . . uh . . . that 15,000 Mesquite market with their own mobile apps. Big whoop.

    So, it's at least something for the out-of-Vegas independents in Reno and Mesquite to ponder.

    Unless there's some gaming prohibition as to which I'm unaware.

    Or they just view the extra risk as unmanageable for their size of operation. (If that's the issue, then I say find a way to add capital -- from investors and/or lenders -- to take on the risk for the added profit potential.)
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    While I was musing on that, I found this further general background on the Mesquite books by Voodoo:

    http://lvasports.com/mesquite-sports-betting/
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    Good blog thanks!

    Karl Malone hates the gays

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    Reno's Atlantis & Peppermill already have the apps. They just need to liberalize their deposit and payout protocols to allow deposits to some fairly widespread location in LV and to allow withdrawals by check/mail.

    https://www.atlantiscasino.com/reno-...ports-book-app

    https://www.peppermillreno.com/gamin...le-application

    http://lvasports.com/news/lines-are-up-at-southpoint/

    Maybe time to think outside the brick-and-mortar box?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TobyTyler View Post
    Good blog thanks!

    Karl Malone hates the gays
    Or was it the phony magic johnson he didnt like

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    I hope to God Virgin River never ever offers app wagering.........
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    Karl Malone also hates brown people

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    Surprised Westgate allows their employees to text while on the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FISHHEAD View Post
    I hope to God Virgin River never ever offers app wagering.........
    Alright, Fish, I'll do the George Burns & Gracie Allen bit ("say goodnight, Gracie"), why is that?

    Is it because you already have connections in place on the ground in Mesquite to take advantage of the line variances and you don't want to see the more independent Mesquite line get hammered into compliance with the herd mentality basically one-line-to-rule-them-all number otherwise followed back in Vegas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squarepants View Post
    Alright, Fish, I'll do the George Burns & Gracie Allen bit ("say goodnight, Gracie"), why is that?

    Is it because you already have connections in place on the ground in Mesquite to take advantage of the line variances and you don't want to see the more independent Mesquite line get hammered into compliance with the herd mentality basically one-line-to-rule-them-all number otherwise followed back in Vegas?
    Yes
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    Quote Originally Posted by lastyle7 View Post
    Surprised Westgate allows their employees to text while on the job.
    I think the ticket writer was breaking the rules.

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    I would avoid long lines at westgate sportsbook by placing my sports bets with the horse window at westgate

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyG View Post
    Will make one prediction. Haven't seen line yet:

    * I believe Mich will be favored over Oregon. I'll say Mich -1.5.

    Great call, ChuckyG.

    Michigan favored by a point or point-and-a-half, depending on where you shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by railbird View Post
    I would avoid long lines at westgate sportsbook by placing my sports bets with the horse window at westgate
    Saw someone try that a couple of days back and they were politely but very firmly turned away, with the approval of the race players in line behind the guy. They take care of their race players on that side.

    At least early on, they had dedicated -- and fairly short -- lines to sign up for their mobile app, which can be used only inside NV but is not limited to NV residents.

    Would recommend signing up for the app and then avoiding the long lines that way, even while watching all the action in the book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heim View Post
    A young Mark Eaton worked at the Marc C. Bloom tire shop on the corner of Valley View & Lincoln in the city of Buena Park. One day Cypress College coach Don Johnson got a flat tire on the way to Cypress. Guess who fixed it. The rest is history.

    P.S. Believe Johnson is still the winningest JC coach in CA history. Alma Mater of Swen Nater too!

    Great story, Heim.

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    JK, i had the ACC playing 15 gms, not 17

    they were 2-13 ATS:

    Tues bubble game WF lost and lost ATS
    Thurs:
    ND won but lost ATS
    VA won but lost ATS
    Fla St won but lost ATS
    VT lost game and ATS
    Fri:
    NC won and covered
    Louis won lost ATS
    Miami lost game and ATS
    Duke won and covered
    Sat:
    ND lost and ATS
    VA lost and ATS
    Fla St lost and ATS
    Sun:
    Louisville lost game and ATS
    NC won but lost ATS
    Duke lost and lost ATS

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    Quote Originally Posted by scrubs View Post
    JK, i had the ACC playing 15 gms, not 17

    they were 2-13 ATS:

    Tues bubble game WF lost and lost ATS
    Thurs:
    ND won but lost ATS
    VA won but lost ATS
    Fla St won but lost ATS
    VT lost game and ATS
    Fri:
    NC won and covered
    Louis won lost ATS
    Miami lost game and ATS
    Duke won and covered
    Sat:
    ND lost and ATS
    VA lost and ATS
    Fla St lost and ATS
    Sun:
    Louisville lost game and ATS
    NC won but lost ATS
    Duke lost and lost ATS

    Thanks for the correction, SCRUBS.

    I made the change.

    I look like the scrub here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kelly View Post

    Wisconsin's Nigel Hayes, who scored 19 points in the big win, criticized students of the game like Ken Pomeroy and Jeff Sagarin.

    "You have all types of ranking systems, statistics. The thing with all those algorithms is they can't calculate heart, will to win, toughness, desire. And that's the thing we have," said Hayes.
    Of course, Sagarin is a rather accurate predictor of the Nevada opening line once we get to tournament time. Round of 64, the absolute value of the difference of the opening line and the Sagarin predictor was about 1.36 points, the variance was 0.87. The biggest difference was Rhode Island/Creighton due to injury.

    In the quotation above, Hayes forgot the case when certain players attempt to fix a game. Statistics don't measure that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kelly View Post
    Great call, ChuckyG.

    Michigan favored by a point or point-and-a-half, depending on where you shop.
    Thx,JK.SawThatOneComin.

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