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    Default Re: The 2017 Cubs May Be Even Better (than the 2012 Cubs) (No, really)

    "Today was 14th start of 4 or fewer innings by a Reds starter in first 40"

    Ouch

    Should help the Cubs in their quest of being better than the 2012 Cubs though.
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    4 more posts about the White Sox. This is just getting sad.
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    Wish John would ban this troll. Sad display.

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    Default Re: The 2017 Cubs May Be Even Better (than the 2012 Cubs) (No, really)

    Aren't you guys in the same city? I'm sure there's a 3rd poster in Chicago that could tape it. You guys should go head to head in a debate, face to face. And should someone decide to throw a punch so be it.

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    Why would I fight an internet poster or meet him in real life? I'm here to discuss sports, nothing about this makes me angry or bothers me. Just hear to discuss the Cubs quest to continue this torrid 85 win pace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timelytowin View Post
    Why would I fight an internet poster or meet him in real life? I'm here to discuss sports, nothing about this makes me angry or bothers me. Just hear to discuss the Cubs quest to continue this torrid 85 win pace.
    Timely, why do you not care about how embarrassing this all makes you look.

    You can't believe the 2005 White Sox were amazing with that run differential and also criticize the Cubs for pounding up on the reds and take away from their dominance bc or that.

    Those two items don't go together logically. So which one do you believe? If you're here to discuss sports, discuss sports. You're not doing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timelytowin View Post
    "Today was 14th start of 4 or fewer innings by a Reds starter in first 40"

    Ouch

    Should help the Cubs in their quest of being better than the 2012 Cubs though.
    The Reds have scored 14 more runs than their opponents in their 34 games against teams not named the Cubs.

    But yeah, they're a joke. lol.

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    Default Re: The 2017 Cubs May Be Even Better (than the 2012 Cubs) (No, really)

    You guys follow each other around on here so much, why not just settle this so it can be over. Neither of you are talking sports you're just trolling each other lol.

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    Oh what a World Timely must live in.

    The reds are above .500 besides the Cubs games with a positive run differential of 14 but they're a joke because it makes him feel better to think so.

    The team that is in 4th in the AL central and has a center fielder that tries to catch balls with his face, now they're legit lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seanie Mac View Post
    You guys follow each other around on here so much, why not just settle this so it can be over. Neither of you are talking sports you're just trolling each other lol.
    I think if you read more closely you'll see I talk sports pretty consistently. I know you're smart enough to do that. He's a morbidly obese troll. That's all. He has an hourly shift starting soon and is upset about it.

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    Default Re: The 2017 Cubs May Be Even Better (than the 2012 Cubs) (No, really)

    Either fight each other or fuck each other so this hated man crush can just end.

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    Default Re: The 2017 Cubs May Be Even Better (than the 2012 Cubs) (No, really)

    Quote Originally Posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
    I think if you read more closely you'll see I talk sports pretty consistently. I know you're smart enough to do that. He's a morbidly obese troll. That's all. He has an hourly shift starting soon and is upset about it.
    Nobody claims to talk sports more than you without actually talking sports, so you can dead that argument. You troll around about the Cubs. Hop it a Baseball Zealot round table thread and talk about sports betting and I'll take you seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seanie Mac View Post
    You guys follow each other around on here so much, why not just settle this so it can be over. Neither of you are talking sports you're just trolling each other lol.
    Can you point me to my non-sports related posts? TIA.

    LOL at fight someone over a gambling forum sports discussion. Seanie, I think you take this a bit too seriously bud. I'm like the Anderson Pooper to Javy; just keepin' him honest. He makes up a lot of things, I wouldn't want the poor posters of EOG to be misled by his erroneous statistics and posts and with my vast wealth of sports knowledge and information I feel it is best of me to just clean up the inaccuracies.
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    Timely telling me about the greatness of Matty Thorton

    Guy went on to go 2-5 with 3 saves and 4 blown with a 1.36 whip



    03-09-11, 04:31 PM
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    The just gave him a contract extension and Ozzie has said it was his job. Once again, think about who you're talking to. You're bumping some CBS assessment of the guy - I'll go ahead and listen to Coop and Ozzie on this matter. It was Thronton's job to lose, and when they gave him his contract extension it was to be the teams closer. Thanks for trying though.

    You didn't know who Matt Thornton was and you showed you ignorance. Calling him a "lefty specialist" was one of the funnier things I've ever read on here. You were WRONG TTP, but you can't admit it. It's sad.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Timetopay View Post
    Timely telling me about the greatness of Matty Thorton

    Guy went on to go 2-5 with 3 saves and 4 blown with a 1.36 whip



    03-09-11, 04:31 PM
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    Re: Who has the best EOG team?

    The just gave him a contract extension and Ozzie has said it was his job. Once again, think about who you're talking to. You're bumping some CBS assessment of the guy - I'll go ahead and listen to Coop and Ozzie on this matter. It was Thronton's job to lose, and when they gave him his contract extension it was to be the teams closer. Thanks for trying though.

    You didn't know who Matt Thornton was and you showed you ignorance. Calling him a "lefty specialist" was one of the funnier things I've ever read on here. You were WRONG TTP, but you can't admit it. It's sad.





    3.32 ERA, 2.62 FIP in a down year. Ooo la la. Thorty was too nasty, just couldn't close. Another out of place White Sox post. Very weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timetopay View Post
    Timely telling me about the greatness of Matty Thorton

    Guy went on to go 2-5 with 3 saves and 4 blown with a 1.36 whip



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    Re: Who has the best EOG team?

    The just gave him a contract extension and Ozzie has said it was his job. Once again, think about who you're talking to. You're bumping some CBS assessment of the guy - I'll go ahead and listen to Coop and Ozzie on this matter. It was Thronton's job to lose, and when they gave him his contract extension it was to be the teams closer. Thanks for trying though.

    You didn't know who Matt Thornton was and you showed you ignorance. Calling him a "lefty specialist" was one of the funnier things I've ever read on here. You were WRONG TTP, but you can't admit it. It's sad.



    Lmao

    Dude is so biased about the Cubs and White Sox. It's pathological.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timelytowin View Post
    Can you point me to my non-sports related posts? TIA.

    LOL at fight someone over a gambling forum sports discussion. Seanie, I think you take this a bit too seriously bud. I'm like the Anderson Pooper to Javy; just keepin' him honest. He makes up a lot of things, I wouldn't want the poor posters of EOG to be misled by his erroneous statistics and posts and with my vast wealth of sports knowledge and information I feel it is best of me to just clean up the inaccuracies.
    Lots of inaccuracies for sure

    And posting is serious business

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    The 2017 Cubs are down about 6 units right now how did the 2012 Cubs do?

    Not too many teams you can blindly fade and make money. Love the Cubbies for this fact.
    Clowns make me laugh! :+textinb3

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    Quote Originally Posted by NowshesmyRuca View Post
    The 2017 Cubs are down about 6 units right now how did the 2012 Cubs do?

    Not too many teams you can blindly fade and make money. Love the Cubbies for this fact.
    The last years of Dusty and Pinella were absolute motherlodes after the AS break. Just look for veteran teams that are sinking with a manager who may not survive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NowshesmyRuca View Post
    The 2017 Cubs are down about 6 units right now how did the 2012 Cubs do?

    Not too many teams you can blindly fade and make money. Love the Cubbies for this fact.
    They were down 6 units or so when you advertised your brilliant fade the Cubs system.

    So sounds like your ROI is zero since we started this game. Not that great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FairWarning View Post
    The last years of Dusty and Pinella were absolute motherlodes after the AS break. Just look for veteran teams that are sinking with a manager who may not survive.
    Just say the Mets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NowshesmyRuca View Post
    The 2017 Cubs are down about 6 units right now how did the 2012 Cubs do?

    Not too many teams you can blindly fade and make money. Love the Cubbies for this fact.
    Nice call on that. Hope you're enjoying the vacation pal. Imagine fading the Cubs bought you a couple nights or dinners while you are there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
    Just say the Mets.
    Mets, KC, Detroit, Pitt, and SF are on the radar. All of these teams wont lose their manager, but may sell.
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    Default Re: The 2017 Cubs May Be Even Better (than the 2012 Cubs) (No, really)

    Eddie Butler has been such a huge bust. I really thought the Cubs were getting a steal when they signed him, he was Arrieta 2.0. He has way better raw talent compared Arrieta. Butler might just be done, what a waste.

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    This isn't a diss, it's how I really feel and always felt about Maddon dating back to Tampa, he's fucking overrated. He tried to lose the WS but the Cubs were so talented they Over came it. He continues to try and ruin Schwarber batting him leadoff when he's struggling so bad. He should be in AAA working things out, not in the most important batting slot. Of course the Cubs would regress from last year but it's getting worse. You can't really take Rizzo from the 3 hole, and luckily Happ has come up mashing. Maddon is either scared or stubborn to make changes. He's a great motivator and players coach but I question whether or not he knows baseball anymore. Leaving Schwarber batting 1st is a crime against humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FairWarning View Post
    The last years of Dusty and Pinella were absolute motherlodes after the AS break. Just look for veteran teams that are sinking with a manager who may not survive.
    I can see the Tigers as that candidate this year. They will hang around for awhile, but with that bullpen, it will break. And they will either start to unload veterans or implode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seanie Mac View Post
    Eddie Butler has been such a huge bust. I really thought the Cubs were getting a steal when they signed him, he was Arrieta 2.0. He has way better raw talent compared Arrieta. Butler might just be done, what a waste.
    What?

    Who had expectations for Eddie Butler, other than maybe the Rockies? A low strikeout guy pitching at 5400 feet. That wasn't going to end well, and it didn't.
    He's made two starts for the Cubs. 6 innings of 2 hit shutout ball in St. Louis. He sucked today. One very good start, one poor one. I think most teams would take 50% good starts out of a 5th starter. It's not like they have much money tied into him.

    As for the Arrieta comparison, it's so ridiculous, I'm not even going to debate it.

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    Butler has raw talent? This isn't 1920 anymore. His velocity is not that great and his control is bad and his off speed is mediocre and poorly controlled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valuist View Post
    What?

    Who had expectations for Eddie Butler, other than maybe the Rockies? A low strikeout guy pitching at 5400 feet. That wasn't going to end well, and it didn't.
    He's made two starts for the Cubs. 6 innings of 2 hit shutout ball in St. Louis. He sucked today. One very good start, one poor one. I think most teams would take 50% good starts out of a 5th starter. It's not like they have much money tied into him.

    As for the Arrieta comparison, it's so ridiculous, I'm not even going to debate it.
    Me when he was a Rockies prospect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
    Butler has raw talent? This isn't 1920 anymore. His velocity is not that great and his control is bad and his off speed is mediocre and poorly controlled.
    I mean he was a top 15 pick, you kinda have to have some talent for that to happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seanie Mac View Post
    I mean he was a top 15 pick, you kinda have to have some talent for that to happen
    His best hope is being converted to the bullpen, throwing 98/99, and getting by innings based on that. He's not a starter, IMO.

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    Default Re: The 2017 Cubs May Be Even Better (than the 2012 Cubs) (No, really)

    Quote Originally Posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
    His best hope is being converted to the bullpen, throwing 98/99, and getting by innings based on that. He's not a starter, IMO.
    You just said his velocity is not that great but put him in the bullpen to throw 98/99....huh

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    95mph 4 seam and 95mph sinker seem like pretty good velocity to me. That would fall under the raw talent section. He prob has better stuff than Arrieta


    http://www.brooksbaseball.net/landing.php?player=572750

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seanie Mac View Post
    You just said his velocity is not that great but put him in the bullpen to throw 98/99....huh
    You new to baseball? When you move guys to the pen, their velocity spikes. Just common sense because they know they're out there for 20-30 pitches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seanie Mac View Post
    95mph 4 seam and 95mph sinker seem like pretty good velocity to me. That would fall under the raw talent section. He prob has better stuff than Arrieta


    http://www.brooksbaseball.net/landing.php?player=572750
    Maybe he should start throwing across his body from the third base side of the rubber then. B/c that is what made Arrieta into the guy that had the best half of pitching maybe ever.

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