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    Quote Originally Posted by FairWarning View Post
    Vegas will only support a winner after the honeymoon is over.
    Well...I'll ask you as wel. Based on what facts or past comparable failures can you base this opinion on? I'll wait right here.
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    I think it gets out the gate fine because it's new and exciting. However there is no city pride in Vegas. I lived there for 9 years. No one gives a fuck about UNLV and they've had a decent program for quite some time. The majority of people that live in Vegas came from somewhere else so they don't care about Vegas based teams. It will survive for a while because of casinos and visiting fan bases but I think it will struggle longterm. I would think by year 3 it would start really declining. The Raiders I think will survive because only 8 game seasons and their fan base is only a few hours away.
    Year 3 is when the team will start to gain support. There will be nothing exciting about this "team" the first couple years. And that's a great thing for this team. A college program is not comparable to this situation. Not even close. Every team who has failed in the past has done so for financial reasons. This team has a filthy rich owner and a garenteed profit for him as long as they are in existence. There are no owners in the NHL currently losing money by owning their teams. It will be an uphill battle no doubt for it to catch, hold on and gain momemtum with the fan base. But this team has a brand new state of the art stadium, a rich owner, in a league with a salary cap and a tv contract that garentees a profit. Now lets add the surplus of Vegas visitors ever week no other team has the luxury of having and a city that continues to grow and populate. They've hired a coach who has a history of getting his lesser talented players to over achieve. The newly appointed GM of the team stockpiled draft picks not only this year but the next 2-3 years. They will put a very shitty product on the ice the first couple years where you seem to believe they will have their success and an owner who, at least so far, has let his GM do this properly and keep his nose out of the business of his GM. Once the shine comes off this team, they will have a stockpile of draft picks just about ready to mature. This is a long term project, and no other team has had an opportunity to get off the ground in such a favorable position. This team is a success already and they havnt even played a game yet. Not a snowballs chance in the desert this team fails.
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    Oh yea, I forget to mention the team sold out its enagural season a year before they played a single game. Lol. 16,000 seats.
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    Year 3 is when the team will start to gain support. There will be nothing exciting about this "team" the first couple years. And that's a great thing for this team. A college program is not comparable to this situation. Not even close. Every team who has failed in the past has done so for financial reasons. This team has a filthy rich owner and a garenteed profit for him as long as they are in existence. There are no owners in the NHL currently losing money by owning their teams. It will be an uphill battle no doubt for it to catch, hold on and gain momemtum with the fan base. But this team has a brand new state of the art stadium, a rich owner, in a league with a salary cap and a tv contract that garentees a profit. Now lets add the surplus of Vegas visitors ever week no other team has the luxury of having and a city that continues to grow and populate. They've hired a coach who has a history of getting his lesser talented players to over achieve. The newly appointed GM of the team stockpiled draft picks not only this year but the next 2-3 years. They will put a very shitty product on the ice the first couple years where you seem to believe they will have their success and an owner who, at least so far, has let his GM do this properly and keep his nose out of the business of his GM. Once the shine comes off this team, they will have a stockpile of draft picks just about ready to mature. This is a long term project, and no other team has had an opportunity to get off the ground in such a favorable position. This team is a success already and they havnt even played a game yet. Not a snowballs chance in the desert this team fails.
    Good luck but I disagree. I'd bet a lot this is a long term failure.

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    That arena will never have an atmosphere like a Redwing or a Penguin like atmosphere where the fans love their city. It will be where the rich go to do something on a Tuesday night when they are in town in general. Passion will be at a minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycabino View Post
    That arena will never have an atmosphere like a Redwing or a Penguin like atmosphere where the fans love their city. It will be where the rich go to do something on a Tuesday night when they are in town in general. Passion will be at a minimum.
    Well now that's completely different than your first post which got me to reply to you. You said Vegas will not support this team long term. They supported it a year before they even played a game and they will support it for many many years to come. As long as Bettman is in office, this team will be a success. Foleys not throwing away a half a billion dollars without doing his homework. This is a slam dunk.
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    Why doesn't Bettman make Arizona a success?

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    Why doesn't Bettman make Arizona a success?
    Vastly different situation there than in Vegas IMO.

    Even if Vegas gets to the point where they have zero local fans left, that arena should still sell out every game. Too many visiting fans and too much foot traffic on a daily basis.

    And with the strip becoming nothing more than a loosely organized racket these days, casual hockey fans might find taking in a game to be one of the less expensive things to do on their vacation...

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    Why doesn't Bettman make Arizona a success?
    Lol. Is that a trick question.

    I thought we covered that way back in lesson 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ejd_5277 View Post
    Vastly different situation there than in Vegas IMO.

    Even if Vegas gets to the point where they have zero local fans left, that arena should still sell out every game. Too many visiting fans and too much foot traffic on a daily basis.

    And with the strip becoming nothing more than a loosely organized racket these days, casual hockey fans might find taking in a game to be one of the less expensive things to do on their vacation...
    You think Carolina, TB, Winnipeg, Phoenix, and Winnipeg fans will find their way to LV to see their fav team play the GK on a Tuesday?

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    You think Carolina, TB, Winnipeg, Phoenix, and Winnipeg fans will find their way to LV to see their fav team play the GK on a Tuesday?
    They almost certainly won't. However I think you will see fans from hockey hotbeds like Pittsburgh, Detroit, and Chicago attend games when they're in town whether their team is playing or not. A lot of these people are just hardcore hockey fans and I think they will buy tickets just because it would be cool to attend an NHL game while vacationing in Las Vegas.

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    You think Carolina, TB, Winnipeg, Phoenix, and Winnipeg fans will find their way to LV to see their fav team play the GK on a Tuesday?
    They don't need any of those fans to come to Vegas on a Tuesday to make this work. And what is it about these Tuesdays that some of you keep bringing up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bfo View Post
    They almost certainly won't. However I think you will see fans from hockey hotbeds like Pittsburgh, Detroit, and Chicago attend games when they're in town whether their team is playing or not. A lot of these people are just hardcore hockey fans and I think they will buy tickets just because it would be cool to attend an NHL game while vacationing in Las Vegas.
    Most hockey fans follow their team much more than the league in general. Hockey coverage in Chicago ended 2 days after they were eliminated. This happens in Canada also as TV ratings for the Cup finals are not what you would think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushay View Post
    They don't need any of those fans to come to Vegas on a Tuesday to make this work. And what is it about these Tuesdays that some of you keep bringing up?
    Does Monday-Thursday change things?

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    You think Carolina, TB, Winnipeg, Phoenix, and Winnipeg fans will find their way to LV to see their fav team play the GK on a Tuesday?
    Winnipeg, yes actually. LV already a *huge* vacation spot for all major Canadian cities. The rest no, except if Phoenix had any actual fans lol.

    Thanks to Westjet, it's easier for me to get to Winnipeg from LV than it is for me to get to some major US cities.

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    Does Monday-Thursday change things?
    No, but neither does Tuesday for that matter.

    One big thing the Knights have going for them that hasn't been mentioned is the timing of the NHL schedule. Other than the traditional LV Strip dead period between Thanksgiving and Christmas, the schedule coincides with both major convention seasons (fall and winter post-Christmas) as well as peak spring break season.

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    Really very little difference between weekday and weekend foot traffic on the Strip during those times.

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    Does Monday-Thursday change things?
    Why leave out Sunday night games. Everyone needs to get up for work on Monday morning right? Whole argument is silly. Teams structure their season ticket packages so as to avoid unfavorable situations like this as best as possible. Most teams buildings play to capacity Every night anyways. If your a full season ticket holder, which most are, your paying for these dreaded Tuesday night games versus Florida wether you like it or not. Much like they make you purchase exhibition games. Silly point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raycabino View Post
    I think it gets out the gate fine because it's new and exciting. However there is no city pride in Vegas. I lived there for 9 years. No one gives a fuck about UNLV and they've had a decent program for quite some time. The majority of people that live in Vegas came from somewhere else so they don't care about Vegas based teams. It will survive for a while because of casinos and visiting fan bases but I think it will struggle longterm. I would think by year 3 it would start really declining. The Raiders I think will survive because only 8 game seasons and their fan base is only a few hours away.
    Obviously you were not here during the LJ and Augmon years.....the city was a frenzy with Rebel basketball.
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    Hawks play them on a Tuesday...cant wait

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushay View Post
    Why leave out Sunday night games. Everyone needs to get up for work on Monday morning right? Whole argument is silly. Teams structure their season ticket packages so as to avoid unfavorable situations like this as best as possible. Most teams buildings play to capacity Every night anyways. If your a full season ticket holder, which most are, your paying for these dreaded Tuesday night games versus Florida wether you like it or not. Much like they make you purchase exhibition games. Silly point.
    I left Sunday out intentionally. There are a lot of places that have industry day deals in Vegas. Sunday is basically Saturday for us - it is such a service industry out there, many have to work Friday and Saturday, get Sunday-Monday off. It will be interesting to see how many people use the tickets or did the scalpers/brokers buy them looking for a quick score. I hope it's the former and not the latter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FISHHEAD View Post
    Obviously you were not here during the LJ and Augmon years.....the city was a frenzy with Rebel basketball.
    Proves my point -they better win. UNLV used to have Guicci Row during the Tark days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FairWarning View Post
    Why doesn't Bettman make Arizona a success?
    The Coyotes – not the Pens – could be B2B Cup Champs and it wouldn’t help attendance. That arena is far away from most of the area. I went to a game there on the last day of the 2015-16 season. On a Saturday. And it took over an hour to drive there when it only took about 30 minutes to get back.

    If they move the team to Downtown Phoenix it will be much more successful since it is closer to most of the area – and money. The NFL team is OK because that is 10 games and mostly on a Sunday. Playing weekday games is a nightmare to get to – and more importantly – back home in time to get some sleep before work the next day.

    A new arena close to Downtown will do it – and until then – they will struggle to draw
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    Quote Originally Posted by winkyduck View Post
    The Coyotes – not the Pens – could be B2B Cup Champs and it wouldn’t help attendance. That arena is far away from most of the area. I went to a game there on the last day of the 2015-16 season. On a Saturday. And it took over an hour to drive there when it only took about 30 minutes to get back.

    If they move the team to Downtown Phoenix it will be much more successful since it is closer to most of the area – and money. The NFL team is OK because that is 10 games and mostly on a Sunday. Playing weekday games is a nightmare to get to – and more importantly – back home in time to get some sleep before work the next day.

    A new arena close to Downtown will do it – and until then – they will struggle to draw
    These are the solutions -

    A) Build an arena closer to the people
    B) Sell the team
    C) Move the team
    D) Do nothing

    What will be done?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FISHHEAD View Post
    Obviously you were not here during the LJ and Augmon years.....the city was a frenzy with Rebel basketball.
    Well then maybe if they ever produce the equivalent of an NHL best roster of all time type scenario there will be some interest but that city doesn't give a flying fuck about today's Running Rebels and it's certainly more of a basketball town no matter how badly Bushay wants it to be a hockey town.

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    Ray gets it.

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    Neither one of you get it. Could care less if it becomes the biggest hockey town in the league. It's already a success. Just a matter of how many years before Foley recoups his investment back. Remember, 7-8 investors were lined up to buy the Coyotes in their darkest days. Let that sink in a minute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FairWarning View Post
    These are the solutions -

    A) Build an arena closer to the people
    B) Sell the team
    C) Move the team
    D) Do nothing

    What will be done?
    They want and need to build an arena in the downtown area where the people are. But the Phoenix city council voted down using taxpayer funds on it in February. As much as he wants to keep the team in Phoenix, if he can't get them to change there minds they will move the team. Quite possibly to Seattle when they are ready. Bettman s done all he can now and admitted he won't fight any longer without a new stadium for the team to profit. The Glendale arena was a nightmare and will continue to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushay View Post
    They want and need to build an arena in the downtown area where the people are. But the Phoenix city council voted down using taxpayer funds on it in February. As much as he wants to keep the team in Phoenix, if he can't get them to change there minds they will move the team. Quite possibly to Seattle when they are ready. Bettman s done all he can now and admitted he won't fight any longer without a new stadium for the team to profit. The Glendale arena was a nightmare and will continue to be.
    Tons of wide open Indian land in Scottsdale. Would be a much better location than in Glendale.

    Maybe the Tribe could put some sort of deal together like they did with the DBacks spring training facility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol Diablo View Post
    Tons of wide open Indian land in Scottsdale. Would be a much better location than in Glendale.

    Maybe the Tribe could put some sort of deal together like they did with the DBacks spring training facility.
    I don't pretend to know the Phoenix area at all. But a quick google search says Phoenix has a 1.4M polulation compared to Glendale 226k and Scottsdale 217k. Is Scottsdale closer than Glendale? Seems they need to build closer to where the bigger population is. Looking at a map they almost look as far away from the Phoenix downtown area as Glendale is. Maybe someone from Arizona could check in with their opinion. Stevo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushay View Post
    I don't pretend to know the Phoenix area at all. But a quick google search says Phoenix has a 1.4M polulation compared to Glendale 226k and Scottsdale 217k. Is Scottsdale closer than Glendale? Seems they need to build closer to where the bigger population is. Looking at a map they almost look as far away from the Phoenix downtown area as Glendale is. Maybe someone from Arizona could check in with their opinion. Stevo?
    Downtown would be the best spot. I just don't see it happening there. Unless they can put something together with the Suns. The Suns will be wanting a new building in the near future as well.

    Most of the money in the Valley is on the East side of town. I would guess the majority of the season ticket base was Scottsdale money when the team was downtown. Chandler, Mesa, and Tempe are all big as well and on the east side of town closer to Scottsdale.

    Putting it in Scottsdale might not be the ideal spot like downtown. But would be much better than the current spot.

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    Recently read the population in Clark County here in Nevada is 2.2 million.

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    Recently read the population in Clark County here in Nevada is 2.2 million.
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    And for anyone reading this and not understanding what happen. From what I understand, Glendale was a city with a lot of growth. Maybe a more affluent part of Arizona. They built the Gill River arena there in 2003 and moved the team west to Glendale. Some 12+ miles from downtown Phoenix. When the financial crisis hit in 2008, Glendale died somewhat. At least in terms of growth they were expecting and planned for. Nothing but empty strip malls is how it was enpained to me at one time. No idea about its recovery since, but I have to believe they all feel it was a mistake moving the team there and would be better off back in Phoenix where all the people are or at least would have a much easier time making it to games. Someone fucked up big time. Bettman and the league bailed out the Coyotes numerous times and felt the only way this is going to work at this point, is to have a brand new stadium built back in Phoenix. In February, the Phoenix city council put the cabash to doing this with any or very much taxpayer money. From what I understand they negotiated a horrible deal at the Gill River arena back in 2003 in terms of parking, and concessions. They need that to be profitable along with all the other income they generate. Last thing Bettman has always claimed was he would never uproot a team from its fans in a city. They worked hard trying to grow youngsters into hockey fans that would one day grow up and take their kids to games and buy jerseys, hats and any other merchandise. But the last I read was Gary was ready to throw in the towel. Unless he can sweeten the deal and change the minds of the Phoenix city council. I would expect that to happen in the very near future. But only to a viable owner with deep pockets in a city they feel stand a good chance of longevity. When Foley stepped forward for putting a team in Vegas, he passed every test the league was looking for in terms of being in a position for lorg term success. Vegas has a brand new arena and a filthy rich owner who has a rather lengthy resume of making money when he invests in something. He's all in on this team in Vegas. And everything to this point has shown he's on the right track. The Who 1st season tickets were sold out a year before the first practice ever took place. Tuesday night games in March vs. Florida are the least of his worries. Or Sunday, Monday, Wednesday or Thursday's either for that matter.

    Anyone know the makeup of the Phoenix city council? I'm guessing democratic majority. Latinos, African American? Just curious and have no idea.
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    All Phoenix really needs is a competent management group and they prolly have no issues worth bitching about as winning cures everything. Period. But they've been unable to do that from day one in their short history. It started with Wayne Gretzky appointing himself coach of the team after he got involved with a group who bought the team back in 2001. Gretzky is arguably the greatest hockey player in the history of the game. He felt he could take that moniker and appointed himself coach of the team shortly after his group bought the team. He set the franchise back years with the moves he made and thinking his phylosify? Was the correct direction the team needed to go. It put a mark on his legacy.
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    The early Phoenix years (1996–2005)[edit]


    Arizona's first logo, a kachina-style coyote, used from 1996 to 2003.

    In the summer that the move took place, Jets star Alexei Zhamnov left the team, while the team added established superstar Jeremy Roenick from the Chicago Blackhawks. Roenick teamed up with power wingers Keith Tkachuk and Rick Tocchet to form a dynamic 1–2–3 offensive punch that led the Coyotes through their first years in Arizona. Also impressive were young players like Shane Doan (as of the 2014–15 season the last remaining Coyote dating to the team's days in Winnipeg), Oleg Tverdovsky and goaltender Nikolai Khabibulin, whom the fans nicknamed the "Bulin Wall."
    Another key addition to the squad was veteran forward Mike Gartner, who had come over from the Toronto Maple Leafs. Despite his experience and scoring his 700th career goal on December 15, 1997, Gartner battled injuries in the latter half of the 1997–98 season. The Coyotes did not renew his contract, and he retired at the end of the season.
    After arriving in Phoenix, the team posted six consecutive .500 or better seasons, making the playoffs in every year but one. The one time they didn't make the playoffs, in 2000–01, they became the first team to earn 90 points and miss the playoffs.
    The Coyotes' original home, America West Arena, was suboptimal for hockey. Although considered a state-of-the-art arena when built for the Phoenix Suns, unlike most modern arenas, it was not designed with a hockey rink in mind. The floor was just barely large enough to fit a standard NHL rink, forcing the Coyotes to hastily re-engineer it to accommodate the 200 foot rink. The configuration left a portion of one end of the upper deck hanging over the boards and ice, obscuring almost a third of the rink and one goal from several sections. As a result, listed capacity had to be cut down from over 18,000 seats to just over 16,000 — the second-smallest in the league at the time — after the first season.
    Richard Burke bought out Steven Gluckstern in 1998, but was unable to attract more investors to alleviate the team's financial woes (see below). In 2001, Burke sold the team to Phoenix-area developer Steve Ellman, with Wayne Gretzky as a part-owner and head of hockey operations.
    The closest that they came to advancing past the first round during their first decade in Arizona was during the 1999 playoffs. After building a 3–1 series lead, The Coyotes would fall in overtime of Game 7 on a goal by Pierre Turgeon of the St. Louis Blues. In 2002, the Coyotes posted 95 points, one point behind their best total as an NHL team while in Winnipeg, but went down rather meekly to the San Jose Sharks in five games.
    From then until the 2007–08 season, the Coyotes were barely competitive and managed to break the 80-point barrier only once during that time. Attendance levels dropped considerably, worrying many league executives. In addition, an unfavorable arena lease at city-owned America West Arena had the team suffering massive losses[11] (as much as $40 million a year at one point[12]); the Coyotes have yet to really recover from the resulting financial problems.
    The team moved into Glendale Arena (now known as Gila River Arena) about 2½ months into the 2003–04 NHL season. Ellman put forward numerous proposals to improve the hockey sight lines in America West Arena in hopes of boosting capacity back over the 17,000 mark. However, neither of these got beyond the planning stages, leading Ellman to commit to building a new arena. Simultaneously, the team changed its logo and uniforms, moving from the multi-colored kit to a more streamlined look.
    In 2005, Ellman sold the Coyotes, the National Lacrosse League's Arizona Sting and the lease to Gila River Arena to trucking magnate Jerry Moyes, who is also a part-owner of Major League Baseball's Arizona Diamondbacks.
    Gretzky era (2005–2009)[edit]


    The Coyotes' shoulder patch 2003–2014.

    On August 6, 2005, Brett Hull, son of former Jet Bobby Hull, was signed and promptly assigned the elder Hull's retired #9. Two days later, Gretzky named himself head coach, replacing Rick Bowness, despite the fact that he had never coached at any level of hockey. The Coyotes "Ring of Honor" was unveiled on October 8, inducting Gretzky (who had never played for the organization) and Bobby Hull. Only a week later, Brett Hull announced his retirement. On January 21, 2006, Jets great Thomas Steen was the third inductee to the "Ring of Honor."
    Another moment in a series of bad luck: the Coyotes were planning to host the 2006 NHL All-Star Game, but the event was canceled because of the 2006 Winter Olympics.
    The team returned to Winnipeg on September 17, 2006, to play a pre-season game against the Edmonton Oilers, but were shut-out 5–0 before a sellout crowd of 15,015.
    On April 11, 2007, CEO Jeff Shumway announced that general manager Michael Barnett (Gretzky's agent for over 20 years), senior executive vice president of hockey operations Cliff Fletcher and San Antonio Rampage's general manager and Coyotes' assistant general manager Laurence Gilman "have been relieved of their duties." The Coyotes finished the 2006–2007 season 31–46–5, their worst record since relocating to Phoenix.[13]
    On May 29, 2007, Jeff Shumway announced that Don Maloney had agreed to a multi-year contract to become General Manager of the Coyotes. As per club policy, terms of the contract were not disclosed.[14] However, as has been the case with all general managers since 2001, Maloney serves in an advisory role to Gretzky.
    The 2007–08 season was something of a resurgence for the Coyotes. After their disastrous 2006–07 campaign, the Coyotes looked to rebuild the team by relying on their drafted talent such as Peter Mueller and Martin Hanzal to make the team successful as opposed to using free agency. The Coyotes also acquired Radim Vrbata from the Chicago Blackhawks for Kevyn Adams in an effort to provide the team with more offense. The team signed both Alex Auld and David Aebischer to compete for the starting goaltender position with Mikael Tellqvist acting as the backup goaltender. Neither Auld or Aebischer were able to hold on to the starting position, leaving the Coyotes to turn to the waiver wire for assistance. On November 17, 2007, the Coyotes were able to claim Ilya Bryzgalov off waivers from the Anaheim Ducks. Bryzgalov responded by not only starting in goal the day he was
    acquired, but posting a shutout in his Coyotes debut against the Los Angeles Kings. Bryzgalov was soon given a three-year contract extension because of his high level of play. Despite predictions of another disastrous season, the Coyotes played competitive hockey for most of the season. However, they finished eight points short of the last playoff spot, with 83 points.
    2009 bankruptcy and attempts to sell the team[edit]

    Main article: Phoenix Coyotes bankruptcy and sale
    In December 2008, the media became aware that the Coyotes were suffering massive losses, and the NHL was paying the team's bills. The media reports were minimized by NHL commissioner Gary Bettman and vice-president Bill Daly. However, Moyes had secretly given operational control of the team to the league. In May 2009, Moyes put the team into bankruptcy hours before Bettman was to present him an offer to sell the team to Chicago Bulls and Chicago White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf. Moyes intended to sell the team to Canadian billionaire Jim Balsillie who intended to purchase the team out of bankruptcy and move it to Hamilton, Ontario. The NHL responded by stripping Moyes of his remaining ownership authority.
    From May until September 2009, hearings were held in Phoenix bankruptcy court to determine the fate of the Coyotes and the holding company. Two potential bidders for the team surfaced, Reinsdorf and Ice Edge Holdings. but they did not submit a bid for the team at the bankruptcy hearing. Instead, the NHL put in the only rival bid to Balsillie for the team, while it contended the Moyes-Balsillie deal violated NHL rules. The bankruptcy court voided the planned sale to Balsillie, accepting the league's argument that bankruptcy could not be used to circumvent league rules. The NHL's bid was also declared insufficient, but the judge left the window open to an improved bid. Moyes and the NHL settled, with the NHL buying the team and assuming all debts. The NHL negotiated a temporary lease with the city of Glendale, which owns Gila River Arena.
    The NHL then negotiated with the Reinsdorf and Ice Edge to work out a deal with Glendale. Ice Edge signed a letter of intent to buy the team from the NHL, while Reinsdorf had won the approval of the City of Glendale. On Friday, May 7, 2010, ESPN.com reported that Reinsdorf bid had fallen apart, and the City of Glendale was working with Ice Edge to buy the team in a last-ditch effort to keep them in Arizona. The National Post criticized both bids, as they were conditional on municipal taxpayers covering any losses that the Coyotes might incur, and suggested that keeping the team in Phoenix was never economically viable.[15]
    In July 2010, the Ice Edge bid collapsed, as it did not satisfy Glendale's financial conditions. Ice Edge decided to concentrate on an effort to buy a minor league team. The City of Glendale had to step in and guarantee the team's losses for 2010–11 as a precondition of the NHL not transferring the franchise. A consortium of investors led by Chicago investor Matt Hulsizer then reached a deal to purchase the Coyotes from the NHL along with a lease agreement with Glendale. However, the Hulsizer deal collapsed in late June 2011 at least in part due to a threatened suit by the Goldwater Institute over the legality of payments Glendale would make to Hulsizer prior to the consortium buying the team. The threat of the suit may have prevented the sale of bonds to finance the payments. The team only stayed in the Phoenix area for the 2011–12 season after another $25 million payment by the city of Glendale.
    The 2012–13 NHL lockout provided another opportunity for the Coyotes to find a potential owner and avoid relocation while the league suspended team operations during the labor dispute. A deal to former San Jose Sharks owner Greg Jamison had been drafted just as the lockout ended, but failed to be finalized and fulfilled by January 31, 2013. The deal would have kept the Coyotes in Phoenix for the next 20 years relying on a tax payer subsidy, according to the agreement. It would also have had "Phoenix" dropped from the name and instead use the more inclusive term "Arizona."[16]
    California investment executive Darin Pastor also submitted a bid to buy the Coyotes. His bid proposed to keep the team in the Glendale area while engaging young hockey players in the region through school partnerships and scholarship efforts.[17] The NHL rejected Pastor's bid on May 13, 2013, citing the bid was "inconsistent with what we had previously indicated were the minimum prerequisites" of a bid.[18]
    Return to the playoffs and first division championship (2009–2012)[edit]

    On September 24, 2009, Dave Tippett took over coaching duties of the Phoenix Coyotes after Wayne Gretzky stepped down hours before. In just 61 games, Tippett led the Coyotes to more wins in their 2009–10 regular season (37) than their previous season (36), en route to the first 50-win season in the franchise's NHL history.
    On March 27, 2010, the Coyotes clinched a playoff spot, their first playoff spot since the 2001–02 season, and in the process, reached the 100-point mark for the first time ever as an NHL team, and the first time overall since the 1977–78 (WHA) Jets scored 102 points.[19] They finished with 107 points, the highest point total in the franchise's 38-year history. This was good enough for fourth overall in the league, tying the 1984–85 Jets for the franchise's highest finish as an NHL team. They also qualified for the fourth seed in the Western Conference, giving them home-ice advantage in the first round for the first time since 1985.
    Their first round opponent in the 2010 Stanley Cup playoffs was the Detroit Red Wings. Game 1 of the series was the first NHL playoff game to be played in Gila River Arena. However, an injury to Shane Doan sidelined him for most of the series, and the veteran Red Wings defeated the Coyotes in seven games.
    In the following year, the Coyotes played the Detroit Red Wings for the second straight postseason, in the first round of the 2011 Stanley Cup playoffs. The Coyotes were swept in four games.
    On April 7, 2012, the Coyotes defeated the Minnesota Wild with a score of 4–1 to win the Pacific Division title—their first division title as an NHL team (in Winnipeg or Phoenix).[20]This gave them the third seed in the West, and with it home ice advantage in a playoff series for only the third time in franchise history. In the first round, they defeated the Chicago Blackhawks in six games, the franchise's first playoff series win since 1987. The first five games went to overtime, tying a record when the Montreal Canadiens and Toronto Maple Leafs did it in the 1951 Stanley Cup Final. They faced the Nashville Predators in the second round, winning the first two games and the series 4–1. However, the Coyotes fell to the Los Angeles Kings in game five of a 4–1 series.
    New ownership and "Arizona Coyotes" (2013–present)[edit]

    Due to the team's bankruptcy status since 2009 and the annual revenue lost each year, the NHL planned to move the Coyotes should a deal with the city for a new lease and new ownership not be decided by July 2, 2013. The plan was to move the franchise to a new city, likely Seattle.[21] On July 2, 2013, by a vote of 4–3, the Glendale City Council approved a 15-year lease agreement with Renaissance Sports and Entertainment (RSE), who would purchase the team from the NHL for US$225 million by August 5, 2013.[22]The members of the Canadian group are Executive Chairman & Governor George Gosbee, President, CEO & Alternate Governor Anthony LeBlanc, Alternate Governor Craig Stewart, and Directors Gary J. Drummond, W. David Duckett, William "Bill" Dutton, Robert Gwin, Scott Saxberg and Richard Walter. RSE partnered with Global Spectrum (owners of the Philadelphia Flyers) for help in managing Gila River Arena. The agreement has the city of Glendale giving RSE US$15 million per year for management fees. There is an agreement that RSE can move the team after five years, if it accrues $50 million US in losses.[22]
    On January 29, 2014, the new ownership group announced that the team would change its name to the "Arizona Coyotes" for the 2014–15 season. According to Coyotes President Anthony LeBlanc, the change is being made to reflect that the team is no longer located within Phoenix city limits and to include all hockey fans in the state of Arizona. Aside from a new shoulder patch, the team's uniform design will not change.[23]
    The Coyotes played their final game under the Phoenix moniker with a 2–1 victory over the Dallas Stars on April 13, 2014. In front of 15,146 fans, David Moss scored the final goal in Phoenix Coyotes history with 2:31 left in the regulation time.[24]
    Following the conclusion of the 2013–14 season, it was reported that due to lackluster revenue from parking and non-hockey events, the City of Glendale would recoup just $4.4 million, which was significantly less than the $6.8 million the city expected to receive back from source including parking receipts, ticket sales and naming rights for the arena.[25]
    On June 4, 2014, it was reported that a Scottsdale, Arizona, public-relations firm had sued IceArizona, the owner of the Phoenix Coyotes, alleging that the NHL club had reneged on a sponsorship deal worth nearly $250,000. A Coyotes' spokesman responded to this issue by calling it a "quarter-million-dollar scheme."[26] By October, IceArizona entered a deal to sell 51% of the Coyotes to Philadelphia-based entrepreneur Andrew Barroway who had recently failed in his attempt to purchase the New York Islanders.[27] The deal was approved by the NHL Board of Governors on December 31, 2014.[28]
    During the 2014–15 season, the team finished last in the Pacific Division with the second-worst record in the NHL. On June 10, 2015 the Glendale, Arizona city council voted to terminate its 15-year, $225 million agreement with the Coyotes. "The city claimed it was entitled to terminate the agreement because two former city employees, Craig Tindall and Julie Frisoni, were involved in securing the deal and later worked for the Coyotes."[29] On July 23, 2015, it was announced that the Coyotes and Glendale City Council had agreed on a resolution.[3][4] On July 24, 2015, the Coyotes announced that Glendale City Council had enacted a two-year deal.[5]
    At the conclusion of the 2015–16 season, general manager Don Maloney was relieved of his duties after eight seasons and one GM of the Year award.[30] The Coyotes replaced Maloney as general manager with John Chayka, who became the NHL's youngest GM, being promoted from his position as assistant general manager/analytics within the Coyotes staff.[31] In August 2016, Dawn Braid was hired as the Arizona Coyotes’ skating coach, making her the first female full-time coach in the NHL.[32]
    On November 14, 2016, the Coyotes announced plans to build a new arena in Tempe, Arizona, which was scheduled to be completed for the 2019–20 NHL season. The project would have included an adjoining 4,000-seat arena that would be used for Coyotes practices and as the home for the Arizona State University men's hockey team.[33][34]However, the arena project was withdrawn when ASU pulled out of the deal in February 2017.[35]
    At the end of the 2016–17 season, Barroway bought out the rest of the IceArizona ownership group and became the sole owner of the franchise. Following the transfer, former IceArizona CEO Anthony LeBlanc and the director of hockey operations Gary Drummond both left the organization.[36] On June 19, 2017, the Coyotes opted not to re-sign long time captain Shane Doan, who had been with the franchise since they were the Winnipeg Jets. The Coyotes left Doan[37] a standing offer to remain with the team in a non-playing role. On June 22, 2017, head coach Dave Tippett would also leave his positions within the Coyotes after eight seasons.[38]
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