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    The Cubswhisperer really like the under tonight boys!

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    ruca looking good with the giants 3-0....early though

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    Quote Originally Posted by NowshesmyRuca View Post
    The Cubswhisperer really like the under tonight boys!

    [#910] CHI CUBS/SFO GIANTS Un 8 -120 (J. QUINTANA -L) Must Pitch (T. BLACH -L) Must Pitch
    You not been watching Queertana pitch?

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    Giants win again, beating the big chalk Cubs.

    Thanks for the PM Ruca!! Dude knows how to pick his spots!

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    Poor guy. 1-2 posted on a team he claims to be a guru of lol. I'd hate to see how terrible he did with the teams he doesn't claim to know as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick McIrish View Post
    Giants win again, beating the big chalk Cubs.

    Thanks for the PM Ruca!! Dude knows how to pick his spots!
    Giants win AGAIN? Makes it sound like they are winning day in, day out.

    BTW, the Giants did lose on Monday. And I've seen too many games of this SF team. They are awful.

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    another mediocre left hander is Cy Young for a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billysink View Post
    another mediocre left hander is Cy Young for a day.
    Their 19-8 record vs lefties is rather shameful. If the pussies can't go 27-0 why bother taking the field?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
    Their 19-8 record vs lefties is rather shameful. If the pussies can't go 27-0 why bother taking the field?
    There you go, polluting the thread with actual facts.

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    Looking into this, weird that the AL is 19 games under .500 against lefties and 24 games over .500 against righties.

    Indians and Astros especially don't seem to square up lefties. They're 1 game under combined vs lefties and 41 games over combined against righties.

    Edge: Boston

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    Astros number 1 in WRC+ vs southpaws, and 2nd in WOBA vs lefties (Detroit is actually # 1). Astros also a different team without Correa in the lineup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valuist View Post
    Astros number 1 in WRC+ vs southpaws, and 2nd in WOBA vs lefties (Detroit is actually # 1). Astros also a different team without Correa in the lineup.
    Yes, the Astros have hit lefties better than any team in baseball. They hit them slightly worse than they hit righties, but they still hit them well.

    Vs righties, most of the best teams in baseball are near the top:

    1: Hou wRC 132
    2: Yankees wRC 112
    3: LAD wRC 110
    4: WSN wRC 107
    6: Cle wRC 104
    9: Ari wRC 100

    The Cubs, for one reason or another, are all the way down at 19. wRC 93.

    Meanwhile vs lefties.

    1: Houston
    3: LAD
    4: CHC
    5: Nationals
    6: Cleveland

    Houston, LAD, Nationals and Cleveland hit pitching from both sides of the plate well. Which gives them a match-up edge, imo, in a series.

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    If Strasburg is toast the Nats are not a scary rotation at all.

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    WRC fake news....it goes up and down.... happ was high..... now he is low......

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    houston stats fake news

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    Cubs problem is they're too streaky.

    But that can also be a good thing when you have to beat a team as good as the Dodgers to advance.

    Who would want to play the Cubs if Bryant Rizzo and Contreras are all hot? Nobody.

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    cubs cannot beat good teams


    zobrist killing them at the plate.............. happ and swaber k rate too high..........let's meet the ball get on base

    cubs lower batting average in 2017 than last year
    cubs lower on base average in 2017 than last year

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    MrTop if this is an act, it was old the first time.

    If it's not an act, you may have had a stroke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
    MrTop if this is an act, it was old the first time.

    If it's not an act, you may have had a stroke.


    all facts javy....let's hit the ball

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    Would help if Quintana could outpitch Lackey. I guess that's asking a lot though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTop View Post
    all facts javy....let's hit the ball
    The game fucked with the ball so now strikeouts aren't as devastating to scoring as they used to be. People trending towards more upper cut swings which will lead to more strikeouts as well just logically. More home runs, more strikeouts.

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    Also wanted to look into this W/L vs lefty stat; which doesn't really point out how well you hit lefties it merely points out that when you break down samples to smaller sizes you will get a little statistical noise.

    The Lefties the Cubs have faced this year:

    Wade Miley - 5.51 ERA (win)
    Rodon - 4.66 ERA (win)
    Clayton Richard - 5.17 ERA (win)
    Corbin - 4.76 ERA (win)
    Matt Moore (twice) - 5.88 ERA (2 wins)
    Ryu - 3.53 ERA (win)
    Jeff Locke (out of the league)- 8.16 ERA (win)
    Tommy Millone (twice) - 7.91 ERA (2 wins)
    Gio Gonzalez - 2.66 ERA (win)... but they scored 1 run off Gio
    Kyle Freeland - 3.7 ERA (win)
    Sean Newcomb - 4.61 ERA (win)
    Blake Snell - 4.98 ERA (win)
    Cody Reed - 6.43 ERA (win) his only start of the season
    Amir Garret - 7.41 ERA (win)
    Justin Nicolino - 5.31 ERA (win)

    Jordan Montgomery - 4.05 ERA (loss)
    Drem Pomeranz - 3.36 ERA (loss)
    Tyler Blach - 4.15 ERA (loss)
    Eduardo Rodriguez - 4.08 ERA (loss)
    Suter - 3.31 ERA (loss)
    Alex Wood - 2.33 ERA (loss)
    Kershaw - 2.04 ERA (loss)

    I know I'm missing two wins, and a loss; can't figure it out. Outside of Gio and Ryu, they haven't beaten a quality lefty this year and the list of lefties they have beaten is pretty ugly (they've got to have a combined ERA north of 5.5); I think everyone can agree with that. This is why looking strictly at W/L is deceiving.

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    quintana much better than lackey....... don't worry about that..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Felix View Post
    Also wanted to look into this W/L vs lefty stat; which doesn't really point out how well you hit lefties it merely points out that when you break down samples to smaller sizes you will get a little statistical noise.

    The Lefties the Cubs have faced this year:

    Wade Miley - 5.51 ERA (win)
    Rodon - 4.66 ERA (win)
    Clayton Richard - 5.17 ERA (win)
    Corbin - 4.76 ERA (win)
    Matt Moore (twice) - 5.88 ERA (2 wins)
    Ryu - 3.53 ERA (win)
    Jeff Locke (out of the league)- 8.16 ERA (win)
    Tommy Millone (twice) - 7.91 ERA (2 wins)
    Gio Gonzalez - 2.66 ERA (win)... but they scored 1 run off Gio
    Kyle Freeland - 3.7 ERA (win)
    Sean Newcomb - 4.61 ERA (win)
    Blake Snell - 4.98 ERA (win)
    Cody Reed - 6.43 ERA (win) his only start of the season
    Amir Garret - 7.41 ERA (win)
    Justin Nicolino - 5.31 ERA (win)

    Jordan Montgomery - 4.05 ERA (loss)
    Drem Pomeranz - 3.36 ERA (loss)
    Tyler Blach - 4.15 ERA (loss)
    Eduardo Rodriguez - 4.08 ERA (loss)
    Suter - 3.31 ERA (loss)
    Alex Wood - 2.33 ERA (loss)
    Kershaw - 2.04 ERA (loss)

    I know I'm missing two wins, and a loss; can't figure it out. Outside of Gio and Ryu, they haven't beaten a quality lefty this year and the list of lefties they have beaten is pretty ugly; I think everyone can agree with that. This is why looking strictly at W/L is deceiving.
    Looking at it your way is even more deceiving. They had 11 hits off Kershaw in 4 innings.

    Lmao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
    The game fucked with the ball so now strikeouts aren't as devastating to scoring as they used to be. People trending towards more upper cut swings which will lead to more strikeouts as well just logically. More home runs, more strikeouts.

    why was happ benched?...........outplayed by amora...............

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    Quote Originally Posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
    Looking at it your way is even more deceiving. They had 11 hits off Kershaw.

    Lmao.
    Yes, and 2 hits off Gio. That evens out, no? They also had no runs scored off of Blake Snell, so the hits off Kershaw seem to be balanced out by the Gio and Snell game.

    How is looking at every game individually broken down by starting pitcher more deceiving than reiterating a W/L record vs lefty starters? 85% of the wins vs lefty starters are coming vs complete slop. Nearly 1/2 the list isn't even in the big leagues right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Felix View Post
    Yes, and 2 hits off Gio. That evens out, no? They also had no runs scored off of Blake Snell, so the hits off Kershaw seem to be balanced out by the Gio and Snell game.

    How is looking at every game individually broken down by starting pitcher more deceiving than reiterating a W/L record vs lefty starters? 85% of the wins vs lefty starters are coming vs complete slop. Nearly 1/2 the list isn't even in the big leagues right now.
    Kershaw is the best lefty in the game and he's had 11 hits off him in a game twice in his career.

    First one - 2012 at Coors field
    Last one - 2017 at pitcher friendly Dodger stadium against the Cubs

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    If your argument is Cubs can't hit good lefties, it certainly weakens it substantially if not entirely that they skull fucked Kershaw the last two times they saw him, one was the biggest game of his life on normal rest, and the next one was a revenge game off that game. What better lefty do they need to beat in the playoffs than Kershaw? You think I'm terrified of Gio or Rich Hill the way he's throwing?

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    batting average vs lefties could be better than W/L...less noise

    the problem with win and loss.and who was hitting? .......who was playing defense in the field? ....better defenders let up less hits...they get to the ball with speed , reaction time in outfield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
    Kershaw is the best lefty in the game and he's had 11 hits off him in a game twice in his career.

    First one - 2012 at Coors field
    Last one - 2017 at pitcher friendly Dodger stadium against the Cubs
    It's one game? A game in which he gave up 11 hits and 9 of them were singles. It happens.

    All I am pointing out is that the W/L record vs lefties is highly influenced by the terrible lefty starters they have faced this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
    If your argument is Cubs can't hit good lefties, it certainly weakens it substantially if not entirely that they skull fucked Kershaw the last two times they saw him, one was the biggest game of his life on normal rest, and the next one was a revenge game off that game. What better lefty do they need to beat in the playoffs than Kershaw? You think I'm terrified of Gio or Rich Hill the way he's throwing?


    one game means little .......pitcher could be hurt... bad matchups..... season better .... 7 game series better look if everyone plays no injuries...like cleveland in WS

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Felix View Post
    It's one game? A game in which he gave up 11 hits and 9 of them were singles. It happens.

    All I am pointing out is that the W/L record vs lefties is highly influenced by the terrible lefty starters they have faced this year.
    You're getting detailed but also cherry picking. Why not just look at how individual hitters do against lefties? Anyway, looking at games like against Pomeranz, Cubs hit 2 HR and had 8 base runners on 6 innings. 2 runs is the minimum there. Average runs scored with that stat line is probably 4.5.

    It just doesn't make sense to dive into sequencing like that and count it as empirical evidence they can't put runs on the board against lefties who you deem as good or bad.

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    I watched all of those games and the only guy that just outclassed them was Alex Wood. Guy was in some unbelievable mini Arrieta run at the time so.

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    Cubs had a chance to trade for Alex Wood and targeted Dan Haren. Theo doesn't get it all right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
    You're getting detailed but also cherry picking. Why not just look at how individual hitters do against lefties? Anyway, looking at games like against Pomeranz, Cubs hit 2 HR and had 8 base runners on 6 innings. 2 runs is the minimum there. Average runs scored with that stat line is probably 4.5.

    It just doesn't make sense to dive into sequencing like that and count it as empirical evidence they can't put runs on the board against lefties who you deem as good or bad.
    They have faced terrible lefty starters this year; that is indisputable based on the evidence above. That is why their record is so good vs lefties. They, as pointed out above, have hit lefties well this year - as pointed out by being 5th in wRC+ in baseball... that said, just as you argued the Nats offensive output had been inflated due to poor competition, the Cubs offensive output vs lefties has been greatly inflated due to horrible competition.

    Last year the Cubs were better vs righties than they were vs lefties - 64% vs 62%. They are not some superior team vs left handed starters, imo. They have simply been the beneficiary of facing multiple arms who are no longer in MLB.

    I'm not cherry picking; you are picking one start vs Kershaw as a barometer on how the Cubs will do vs Kershaw in the future and how the Cubs will do vs all left handed starters. That is unreasonable, imo.

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