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  1. #666

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    Quote Originally Posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
    It was a stupid thing to say that didn't have any basis in reality.

    Here Timely is trying to start a flame war again.

    "The Victim"
    He gets buried in every thread he enters.

  2. #667

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    Quote Originally Posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
    It was a stupid thing to say that didn't have any basis in reality.

    Here Timely is trying to start a flame war again.

    "The Victim"
    1. I wasn't replying to you so do you keep responding to me?

    2. You, yourself, have said multiple times the Cubs clearly had a world series hangover in the first half last year. Should I quote them?

    3. Keuchel simply said that wouldn't happen.

    4. This was a non story that doesn't belong in some off-season hot stove thread and was only posted because another league wide thread has turned into a cub discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Felix View Post
    1. I wasn't replying to you so do you keep responding to me?

    2. You, yourself, have said multiple times the Cubs clearly had a world series hangover in the first half last year. Should I quote them?

    3. Keuchel simply said that wouldn't happen.

    4. This was a non story that doesn't belong in some off-season hot stove thread and was only posted because another league wide thread has turned into a cub discussion.
    Let's be reasonable here. It was a stupid thing to say because it is demonstrably stupid. You can literally point to the fact the Cubs have been more successful than the Astros over the last 3 years. More wins, more success, more playoff success, just simply better. He absolutely should feel that his team is better than the Cubs, just like the Cubs should feel they're better than the Astros. The 'We're not the Cubs' thing is demonstrably silly though, and here's why.

    2016: Royals went 81-81 and missed the playoffs
    2015: Giants went 84-78 and missed the playoffs
    2014: Red Sox went 71-91 and missed the playoffs
    2013: Giants went 76-86 and missed the playoffs
    2012: Cardinals went 88-74 and barely squeaked in as a wild card team
    2011: Giants went 86-76 and missed the playoffs.



    Considering that, the Cubs 2017 season was one of the best seasons after a World Series title in recent memory. So I thought baseball fans would appreciate how demonstrably stupid what he said was. But apparently you didn't appreciate it. You took it as I was offended by something an AL player said about the Cubs in spring training. Keep doing you bro.

  4. #669

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Felix View Post
    What does this matter? Uh, pretty far pal. They're projected for 102 wins so they're about a 98 win team without him at all. I think they'll be fine.

    You said very very stupid lol as if it has any impact on the Astros or him. The only person it bothered was an overly sensitive cub fan on a gambling forum.
    Who's projecting 102 wins, Pekota? The linemakers don't agree.

  5. #670

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valuist View Post
    Who's projecting 102 wins, Pekota? The linemakers don't agree.
    Fangraphs:
    101

    Pecota:
    99

    Bookmaker:
    97.5

    So we'll go with the middle of 99. Without Keuchel, they'd be just fine.

  6. #671

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    Weren't Cubs projected for 96? Then you made a big deal about them being on pace for 84.

    So the Astros are immune to a world series hangover? Okay, got it. Thanks for the insight.

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    yes, I'm sure if Keuchel said "we're not going to be like KC" you would have posted it. he said it about the Cubs so it was posted. Had nothing to do with the Cubs making the playoffs or etc. He was saying they weren't going to have a World Series hangover; which is what you said the Cubs experienced last year on this very forum. Does it mean they won't? No. Does it mean it matters or that the forum needs daily updates on things said about the Cubs? No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Felix View Post
    yes, I'm sure if Keuchel said "we're not going to be like KC" you would have posted it.
    Equally stupid. Maybe a Royals fan would have noticed how stupid it was.

    Verlander especially is likely to be the one to realize pitching into November isn't fun early the next year.

  9. #674

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    Can someone tell me how some pitcher guy talking shit in March affects anyone's season win total, World Series odds, final roster, fantasy lineup, price of a jar of relish, my will, the Swedish general election or my local pharmacy hours?

    TIA.

  10. #675

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    Nice pitching line for Chatwood tonight, facing all major leaguers.


    http://www.espn.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=380313116

  11. #676

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    I’m surprised to see Timely was low on Chatwood. He had an elite spin rate the last few years and clearly Coors field shit on the benefits of that.

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    The elite spin rate is found in the political thread.

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    MLB looks like a thursday march 29th start ?

  14. #679

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTop View Post
    MLB looks like a thursday march 29th start ?
    We’ll have to run it by Boras

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTop View Post
    MLB looks like a thursday march 29th start ?
    Every team also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bookbraker View Post
    More deflection from you.

    You think darvish and hendricks are better than syndergaard and degrom?

    Yes or no.

    This guy has them the best 1-2 punch in the game.


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    Justin Turner broke his wrist for anyone who cares.

  18. #683

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    96 1/2 probably a bit steep in the RSW totals.

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    One of these players should sue Boras for malpractice. Holland should have taken Rockies qualifying offer of 17.4mil.....now he's stuck probably with a shitty one year deal hoping to impress for a long term deal in 2019. He was the worst reliever in baseball last third of the season. Was Boras looking for Wade Davis money with his client's Aug and Sep stats? Teams do have the internet.
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    Alex Cobb to the Orioles.........I believe The Birds RSW total opened as high as 78.5 and It moved down to 71 1/2 ......... I took a bite at O's OVER 71.5 (-110) at Bill Hill a few days ago - this is a nice signing - I sense there is definite value in the number (esp.73 or less) -Buck Showalter comes to the park prepared and the Orioles have a very potent offense with a nice set up/closer in O'Day and Britton. Hopefully Britton can avoid the DL this year.

  21. #686

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    Hopefully Britton can avoid the DL after he returns in May or June

  22. #687

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    Quote Originally Posted by bomzee View Post
    Hopefully Britton can avoid the DL after he returns in May or June
    Is he slated to come back that soon? I had heard after the All-Star break, at least. But that was a while ago. But it is no small injury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bomzee View Post
    Alex Cobb to the Orioles.........I believe The Birds RSW total opened as high as 78.5 and It moved down to 71 1/2 ......... I took a bite at O's OVER 71.5 (-110) at Bill Hill a few days ago - this is a nice signing - I sense there is definite value in the number (esp.73 or less) -Buck Showalter comes to the park prepared and the Orioles have a very potent offense with a nice set up/closer in O'Day and Britton. Hopefully Britton can avoid the DL this year.
    The big uncertainty is Machado’s status - will he get traded?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FairWarning View Post
    The big uncertainty is Machado’s status - will he get traded?
    Allegedly Baltimore clearly figured out they weren’t getting enough in return for Mr. Machado and that he is going to stay put

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    Quote Originally Posted by FairWarning View Post
    The big uncertainty is Machado’s status - will he get traded?
    Quote Originally Posted by Valuist View Post
    Is he slated to come back that soon? I had heard after the All-Star break, at least. But that was a while ago. But it is no small injury.
    You are correct
    The projected time table is for Britton to return for the second half of the season

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    Quote Originally Posted by bookbraker View Post
    This guy has them the best 1-2 punch in the game.


    www.mlb.com/news/top-10-starting-pitcher-duos-in-mlb/c-268563444
    Syndergaard just got lit up by a has been catcher who can barely swing the bat anymore.

    Guess he didn't learn how to pitch this off season.

    Thrower only. Sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heim View Post
    One of these players should sue Boras for malpractice. Holland should have taken Rockies qualifying offer of 17.4mil.....now he's stuck probably with a shitty one year deal hoping to impress for a long term deal in 2019. He was the worst reliever in baseball last third of the season. Was Boras looking for Wade Davis money with his client's Aug and Sep stats? Teams do have the internet.
    Signed with the Cards today for $14 mil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FairWarning View Post
    Signed with the Cards today for $14 mil.
    If Carlos Martinez pitches like this, that'll be a gigantic waste of money and also a waste of a draft pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
    Syndergaard just got lit up by a has been catcher who can barely swing the bat anymore.

    Guess he didn't learn how to pitch this off season.

    Thrower only. Sad.
    Yeah he stinks lol.

  30. #695

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    Quote Originally Posted by bookbraker View Post
    Yeah he stinks lol.
    I don't know how you throw 100 and let a guy who can barely hold a bat anymore turn it around on you lol

    maybe he'll learn to pitch one day but probably more likely he tears something before then

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    Quote Originally Posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
    I don't know how you throw 100 and let a guy who can barely hold a bat anymore turn it around on you lol

    maybe he'll learn to pitch one day but probably more likely he tears something before then
    You're right no one should ever put the bat on the ball against syndy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bookbraker View Post
    You're right no one should ever put the bat on the ball against syndy.
    Yadi is a fairly easy guy to pitch to these days

    Syndergaard looking like he's heading for the DL

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    Quote Originally Posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
    Yadi is a fairly easy guy to pitch to these days

    Syndergaard looking like he's heading for the DL
    Cards have a shitty rotation. Syndy is fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bookbraker View Post
    Cards have a shitty rotation. Syndy is fine.
    I agree about Cards.

    Syndergaard lots of K's but as you can see, you can strikeout lots of guys and pitch poorly in tandem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
    I agree about Cards.

    Syndergaard lots of K's but as you can see, you can strikeout lots of guys and pitch poorly in tandem.
    How did the Marlins score 4 already? Do they have any MLB talent left on that team?

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