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    A 5-7 record.

    LeBron, most overblown star in sports history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flip flops View Post
    5-7 record

    lebron most overblown star in sports history
    Brick's defense is killing the Cavs.

    https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/b...of-the-problem


    Jae Crowder has given up the most spot-ups for the Cavs, which isn't surprising. Crowder's on a new team, being asked to adapt to an ever-changing role, and he's consistently tasked with guarding the toughest perimeter weapons on the wing. He's given up 50 points off spot-up plays. Only one player is anywhere close to him.
    LeBron James. The greatest elephant of all time in the room

    Logging the spot-ups surrendered by the Cavs, about one in every four was the result of either James himself falling asleep, over-helping or ball-watching, or as a result of something else James did

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    Somewhat hilarious that being great defensively is the only thing that could ever stop the Warriors consistently, but he has handpicked a roster as player/gm/coach that is made up entirely of below average to liability defenders.

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    ^ watch the manlet report, the team total UNDER of the opposing team of whoever the hell the cavs play next week is about to be a play


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    LeBron the GM has betrayed LeBron the Player.

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    its all hype with this guy

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    I’m glad he wanted Wade. Wade may be the 2nd most overrated played in the last 5- 10 years, after Melo.

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    Lebron needed Kyrie more than kyrie needed lebton

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    Lebron's legacy was always going to be the guy that couldn't win by himself, promised his home town team a championship, then bolted because it was too hard and he knew he would never win without being surrounded by superstars that can handle the moment better, joined with two other top 5 PER players, then decided he'd be able to convince morons and Cleveland that he was a decent guy if he 'went home' and won Cleveland a championship. Now he's bored again and wants to win in a bigger city and wants to try to get to 6 or 7 rings so will sell out anything to get there, no matter what city or who he fucks along the way.

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    He will also be seen historically as the guy that ruined the NBA and turned it into a 3 or 4 team league every year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
    He will also be seen historically as the guy that ruined the NBA and turned it into a 3 or 4 team league every year.
    We get that you are a Jordan guy but LeBron will go down as one of the greatest to play the game....
    Everyone dies......but not everyone lives.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viejo Dinosaur View Post
    We get that you are a Jordan guy but LeBron will go down as one of the greatest to play the game....
    That can be true, also what I said about him ruining the game can also be true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
    Lebron's legacy was always going to be the guy that couldn't win by himself, promised his home town team a championship, then bolted because it was too hard and he knew he would never win without being surrounded by superstars that can handle the moment better, joined with two other top 5 PER players, then decided he'd be able to convince morons and Cleveland that he was a decent guy if he 'went home' and won Cleveland a championship. Now he's bored again and wants to win in a bigger city and wants to try to get to 6 or 7 rings so will sell out anything to get there, no matter what city or who he fucks along the way.
    Sums it up pretty nicely.
    Michael Jordan isn't anywhere near as athletic as lebron James. Jordan wouldn't even be a top 20 athlete in the game right now in his prime. - Cleveland Homer Big Deemer
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    good post Javy. Jordan sparked the NBA and LeBron is killing it.

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    pippen
    magic
    bird
    jordan
    shaq
    kobe
    durant
    olajuwon
    oscar
    julius
    malone
    russell
    chamberlain



    all better


    lebron top 20 maybe

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    Kareem

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    Quote Originally Posted by flip flops View Post
    pippen
    magic
    bird
    jordan
    shaq
    kobe
    durant
    olajuwon
    oscar
    julius
    malone
    russell
    chamberlain



    all better


    lebron top 20 maybe

    lebron IMO much better than pippen

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTop View Post
    lebron IMO much better than pippen
    He had to put Pippen at the top too.

    Almost completely discredited the whole list.

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    pippen most underrated player of all time do u account for defense?

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    Cleveland’s problem is no higher up wants to stand up to lebron. Jordan tried to butt into player moves and was squashed.
    Michael Jordan isn't anywhere near as athletic as lebron James. Jordan wouldn't even be a top 20 athlete in the game right now in his prime. - Cleveland Homer Big Deemer
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    "Legacy not what it once was" sounds like something Yogi Berra might say.
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    Lebron sucks

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    The thing I guess is impressive is the appearance in consecutive finals in this pathetic nba east. Of course it pales in comparison to consecutive appearance in finals to Bill Russell (10), Sam Jones and Tom Heinsohn (nine) and K.C. Jones and Frank Ramsey (eight)

    James has won three championships and lost five . Jordan was 6-0 in Finals series, and Russell lost only once.

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    Brick's legacy is about the same as always, choker.

    Names his teams and has 3 Final wins in 8 tries. Thanks goodness for some assists from a few HOF'ers and the Commissioner or he could be an O'fer very easily.

    Durant, Anthony Davis just a couple in the game that are so much better it's embarrassing.

    Brick about a top 50 player of all time. Social media and all the new ways to recruit casual fans certainly has him rated much higher than his worth.

    Defense this season is completely laughable, even by his standards. Saves his energy to throw up offensive #'s......

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    He will have one very impressive stat on his resume.

    Barring a career ending injury, he will be the all time scoring leader, kind of putting him on a level with Pete Rose and his 4,256 hits !

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    maybe lebron in OKC ?

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    look at this defense

    Guarantee Michael Jordan never watched someone dribble down the lane like this

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    Quote Originally Posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
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    look at this defense

    Guarantee Michael Jordan never watched someone dribble down the lane like this
    Problem is the good teams don’t care anymore. They just want to be healthy and rested for the playoffs.

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    According to Paul Pierce CAVS won't make the playoffs. Then Billups asks what's in the cup he's drinking from.

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    I'm scared he might play another 10 years.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
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    look at this defense

    Guarantee Michael Jordan never watched someone dribble down the lane like this
    LMAO. Gotcha. You can't keep your story straight.

    I thought you told me you never dissed LBJ's Defense and he was a good defender? So which is it?

    Here's a hint, I have watched 80% of the Cavs games this year and LBJ is absolutely, positively, still a +Defender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GameBred View Post
    LMAO. Gotcha. You can't keep your story straight.

    I thought you told me you never dissed LBJ's Defense and he was a good defender? So which is it?

    Here's a hint, I have watched 80% of the Cavs games this year and LBJ is absolutely, positively, still a +Defender.
    I guarantee those ex-bulls on the roster are not. LeBron has changed from a one-on-one defender to a help defender, maybe it’s the D they are playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FairWarning View Post
    I guarantee those ex-bulls on the roster are not. LeBron has changed from a one-on-one defender to a help defender, maybe it’s the D they are playing.
    Tell that to 7’3 Porzingis; LBJ has always been both.

    While he's certainly not perfect on the D-side, his pluses far outweigh his minuses.

    As for the Ex-Bulls, not going to argue that but I don't think, Korver, specifically, is the defensive liability that he is made out to be. I know teams target him but he puts forth an honest effort and is a good team defender. You don't play his 4th Qrt minutes if you are a defensive liability.
    Men are born for games. Nothing else... the worth or merit of a game is not inherent in the game itself but rather in the value of that which is put at hazard. Games of chance require a wager to have meaning at all. Games of sport involve the pride of victory & the humiliation of defeat; which are themselves sufficient stake... But trial of chance or worth, all games aspire to the condition of war, for here, that which is wagered swallows up game, player, all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
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    look at this defense

    Guarantee Michael Jordan never watched someone dribble down the lane like this
    Where is the GIF of Kyrie blowing by Draymond last night? Is Draymond a shitty defender? Two plays before that, Draymond, w/ zero help, absolutely stuffed Kyrie's penetration and made him dribble out which fucked up the possession.

    Where is the GIF of Kyrie's two late off-the ball cuts on Thompson last night? Is Thompson a shitty defender?

    I can pick out the best defenders in the world and make them look anything but.
    Men are born for games. Nothing else... the worth or merit of a game is not inherent in the game itself but rather in the value of that which is put at hazard. Games of chance require a wager to have meaning at all. Games of sport involve the pride of victory & the humiliation of defeat; which are themselves sufficient stake... But trial of chance or worth, all games aspire to the condition of war, for here, that which is wagered swallows up game, player, all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FairWarning View Post
    I guarantee those ex-bulls on the roster are not. LeBron has changed from a one-on-one defender to a help defender, maybe it’s the D they are playing.
    Actually, forgot about D-Wade. He's been + this year. If he can just focus on that end and pass it to Kyle and Channing on the other end; there will be no stopping us He'll figure it out. I was actually cold to his signing but I like him coming off the bench and what I've seen on the defensive end.
    Men are born for games. Nothing else... the worth or merit of a game is not inherent in the game itself but rather in the value of that which is put at hazard. Games of chance require a wager to have meaning at all. Games of sport involve the pride of victory & the humiliation of defeat; which are themselves sufficient stake... But trial of chance or worth, all games aspire to the condition of war, for here, that which is wagered swallows up game, player, all.

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