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    Quote Originally Posted by kane View Post
    Read my post 63
    Ok. But Cle has LBJ; he's on the Cavs and he is a force multiplier. This guy lifts everyone around him.

    Please see 7 straight finals w/ 2 different teams.

    Please see him at 22 leading that rag-tag bunch 2007 nobodies to the Finals.

    Please see LBJ getting up 2 to 1 on the Warriors starting next to 4 guys who came off the bench for the majority of their careers.

    Please see LBJ leading this Cavs team to 50 wins this year (1 less than last year) despite there being 3 different iterations of the team.

    He has a good cast around him that played bad in Game 1; it happens. They haven't played much together and they have a shitty coach. He'll download the data and adjust; Stevens isn't the only brilliant mind in this series.
    Men are born for games. Nothing else... the worth or merit of a game is not inherent in the game itself but rather in the value of that which is put at hazard. Games of chance require a wager to have meaning at all. Games of sport involve the pride of victory & the humiliation of defeat; which are themselves sufficient stake... But trial of chance or worth, all games aspire to the condition of war, for here, that which is wagered swallows up game, player, all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GameBred View Post
    Overrating them? They were medium series dogs against Toronto? What are you guys talking about?

    As for Kevin "Robin" Love, he owes his ring to LBJ.
    I thought they were overpriced in THIS series.

    I also think the market may be now overreacting after game 1.

    The old zigzag theory was based on game overreaction. Did Cavs close -2 in game 1? And are now +1? This is classic zigzag opportunity: not an edge arising because the prior game inspires the loser to play harder, but because the market grants extra points to the prior game loser.

    If you love the Cavs, you should be very happy to bet on the Cavs next game, and Cavs -120 to still win the series. I might make both those bets myself. But that won't mean I changed my mind about the series price before game one being awful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokerjoe View Post
    I thought they were overpriced in THIS series.
    Fair enough. I retract my indignation.

    Quote Originally Posted by pokerjoe View Post
    I also think the market may be now overreacting after game 1.
    If the Cavs aren’t favorites in game 2, it is overreacting, IMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by pokerjoe View Post
    The old zigzag theory was based on game overreaction. Did Cavs close -2 in game 1? And are now +1? This is classic zigzag opportunity: not an edge arising because the prior game inspires the loser to play harder, but because the market grants extra points to the prior game loser.
    I don’t follow NBA markets so I have no idea what they closed/opened at.

    Quote Originally Posted by pokerjoe View Post
    If you love the Cavs, you should be very happy to bet on the Cavs next game, and Cavs -120 to still win the series. I might make both those bets myself. But that won't mean I changed my mind about the series price before game one being awful.
    I thought it was awful too; awful low for Boston But hey, that’s what makes a market and I am just eyeballing the price, I’m no expert anymore at pricing up a Series; it’s been many moons.

    I just saw a bunch of stuff in Game 1 (which Cle was totally unprepared for; thanks Ty) that I am positive the Cavs will pick up on and adjust to. They just have to tweak a few things and not shoot like total shit and they’ll be fine. Boston will make adjustments too but Cle should be ready for any.

    I mean JFC, Joe, did you notice the Cavs weak-side spacing? It was so fucking poor that 1 C-Defender could guard 2 guys on that side of the floor; absolutely unacceptable and on Ty. If they just improve that, then the C's can load up on all the first actions they want or double LBJ in the post when Morris isn't on him or whatever and they will get picked apart.

    In general, Stevens did some really cool stuff on D; he's just so impressive. They were clearly out-coached. Don’t get me wrong, the players need to play better, including LBJ but at least they have some film now and there isn't too much more Stevens can do schematically (it’s not like he has an infinite # of coverages/schemes to call upon). They just executed their game plan very well, which Cle was ill-prepared for (once again, great job Ty).
    Men are born for games. Nothing else... the worth or merit of a game is not inherent in the game itself but rather in the value of that which is put at hazard. Games of chance require a wager to have meaning at all. Games of sport involve the pride of victory & the humiliation of defeat; which are themselves sufficient stake... But trial of chance or worth, all games aspire to the condition of war, for here, that which is wagered swallows up game, player, all.

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    Can Celts win a game in Cleveland?

    In terms of stock, I have to think two things:
    * UP: Stevens/Ainge
    * Down: Irving looks expendable, and to lesser extent Hayward.

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    LeBron getting old quick

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTop View Post
    LeBron getting old quick
    You forgot (sad) lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycabino View Post
    You forgot (sad) lol.

    you are right Ray. Lebron finally going up against a defense in the conference. Indy played well against lebron , Toronto turned into jello by the coach.. no way they were that bad. Now the Cavs are playing the toughest defense of the east and they are short handed from day 1.


    sad

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTop View Post
    you are right Ray. Lebron finally going up against a defense in the conference. Indy played well against lebron , Toronto turned into jello by the coach.. no way they were that bad. Now the Cavs are playing the toughest defense of the east and they are short handed from day 1.


    sad
    That's better lol. I think we are all a little guilty of underestimating Boston. What makes them really tough is their ability to defend multiple positions which allows them to switch off of most picks and not give up a mismatch. All but Rozier have enough size and athleticism to make it a little more difficult on Lebron than he is used to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyG View Post
    Can Celts win a game in Cleveland?

    In terms of stock, I have to think two things:
    * UP: Stevens/Ainge
    * Down: Irving looks expendable, and to lesser extent Hayward.
    They better fucking not

    However, you have Brad Stevens and we don't. But I have the GOAT and #TheFrstCedi and I'll be here until the last dog is hung; our Swan song shall not be sung. Come and get some!!!
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    Celtics have won every home game in the playoffs
    Celtics have won every 3rd qtr in the playoffs


    1-4 on the road. Still not sure how to feel about the Cavs chances. Sucks we gotta wait til Saturday.

    Gonna need the supporting cast to have a few big games like they did that Toronto series.

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    Like I've been saying, Boston is the better team. Other than Lebron they're better at every position, they play elite defense, Cleveland's defense was ranked 29th, they're better coached, they're younger and more athletic, they play together like a team, Cleveland is too reliant on one guy, take LeBron off that team and they win 25 games. LeBron goes for 42-10-12, and they lose by double digits, Cleveland's backcourt gets outscored 41-3, I'm not counting Cleveland out since they still have LeBron, but it's obvious which is the better team
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    Not only better all around team...They have people that are playing hard.

    Name 1 person that would go for a 50/50 ball on the Cavs? Maybe Tristan Thompson? Maybe?
    Everyone on the Celtics would bust their ass.

    9-0 at Home. 1-4 on Road.
    Will be interesting to see these 2 games and how that Ty Lue (best coach some players ever played for, says Mcirish) can figure out how to get some players on the floor that will give 110%. Could it be Clarkson? Hood? Cedi?(ha) Guys aren't scoring anyways, might as well play someone that will give an effort on both ends.

    Lebron needs to somehow play all 4 qtrs. He takes off defense to conserve energy for offense, which could be a smart idea since the rest of the offense is shit, but needs to do as everyone has always said and not settle for jumpers come 2nd half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttaylor89 View Post
    Not only better all around team...They have people that are playing hard.

    Name 1 person that would go for a 50/50 ball on the Cavs? Maybe Tristan Thompson? Maybe?
    Everyone on the Celtics would bust their ass.

    9-0 at Home. 1-4 on Road.
    Will be interesting to see these 2 games and how that Ty Lue (best coach some players ever played for, says Mcirish) can figure out how to get some players on the floor that will give 110%. Could it be Clarkson? Hood? Cedi?(ha) Guys aren't scoring anyways, might as well play someone that will give an effort on both ends.

    Lebron needs to somehow play all 4 qtrs. He takes off defense to conserve energy for offense, which could be a smart idea since the rest of the offense is shit, but needs to do as everyone has always said and not settle for jumpers come 2nd half.
    Very good post, you're someone who gets it. I literally laughed out loud last night when I heard Mark Jackson say there are two outstanding coaches in this series, you would be hard pressed to find a bigger coaching mismatch this deep into the playoffs than Stevens/Lue. You also make a good point about the Celtics playing harder, Marcus Smart can play for my team anytime, Cleveland has no one who plays as hard or as tough as him. The Celtics can get whatever they want on offense, even the shots they miss are open ones for the most part, whereas Cleveland's misses are contested shots, last night Boston took 42 uncontested shots, Cleveland took 11 uncontested shots, Boston's defense is elite, Cleveland's is non existent. Boston has 6 or 7 guys that can score 20, Cleveland has 2. LeBron came out on fire, but after the shot to the jaw from Tatum's shoulder, he seemed affected the rest of the game, he seemed less aggressive. The bottom line is, there's just so much one great player can do when his teammates are trash, Love showed up and played well last night, but it takes more than 2 guys playing well to win. Boston is the better team, it's not even debatable at this point, doesn't guarantee they'll win the series, but unless LeBron gets some help, it's looking like a Bos/GS finals
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    On the radio this morning I believe I heard that the Cavs had 22 shots in the 4th qtr and 20 of them were contested...however they determine that.

    I didn't watch the 2nd half of the game. But I can only view that as either the Cavs slowed down and weren't moving the ball or Boston just has a ton more energy/can play 4 qtrs of defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttaylor89 View Post
    On the radio this morning I believe I heard that the Cavs had 22 shots in the 4th qtr and 20 of them were contested...however they determine that.
    I know they only had 3 uncontested shots in the second half, I don't know what constitutes a contested shot, but it's obvious one team plays tough, physical defense, and the other team doesn't. Cleveland's defense ranked 29th in defensive efficiency, I don't know where Boston ranks, but their defense is elite. The Celtics can get whatever they want offensively, they have 5 or 6 guys who can create a shot for themselves or a teammate, other than LeBron Cleveland doesn't have another player who can create his own shot, maybe Rodney Hood, but he's been invisible all playoffs, the only chance Cleveland has is if they shoot a very high percentage from three. Boston is younger, more athletic, and play smarter, they all buy into Stevens system, they play like a team, other than LeBron the Cavs play like a group of individuals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ttaylor89 View Post
    On the radio this morning I believe I heard that the Cavs had 22 shots in the 4th qtr and 20 of them were contested...however they determine that.

    I didn't watch the 2nd half of the game. But I can only view that as either the Cavs slowed down and weren't moving the ball or Boston just has a ton more energy/can play 4 qtrs of defense.
    Boston has guys who can defend multiple positions, in the first quarter Al Horford was forced to guard George Hill on a switch, Hill tried to shake him, but couldn't, at the end of the possession Horford blocked his shot. I can't think of too many centers who are capable of guarding the other teams' PG. The way the C's play defense is a thing of beauty, it's hard to describe, but during the game instead of watching the ball I'll watch the Celtics move around defensively, if someone gets beat on a cut, there's another guy right there to pick up the offensive player, they're well coached defensively and play together, all 5 guys locked in on what they're supposed to do. Cleveland's defense is atrocious, Boston can get anywhere they want on the floor from drives to the rim to open three's, the Cavs just aren't good enough defensively to stop them. Almost every Celtics possession results in a good shot, they don't always go in, but they always seem to get a good look, and they only had 5 turnovers which is extremely low, defensively the Cavs can't create turnovers the way Boston can, the Cavs struggle to get open looks, almost every shot they took was well guarded. LeBron is the only reason they still have a chance, take him off that team and this series is a giant mismatch
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    Quote Originally Posted by raycabino View Post
    That's better lol. I think we are all a little guilty of underestimating Boston. What makes them really tough is their ability to defend multiple positions which allows them to switch off of most picks and not give up a mismatch. All but Rozier have enough size and athleticism to make it a little more difficult on Lebron than he is used to.
    Great post Ray and spot on, did you see George Hill trying to score on Horford? When one teams center can guard the other teams PG, that tells you all you need to know. The Celtics play defense on a string, all five guys working together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyG View Post
    Can Celts win a game in Cleveland?

    In terms of stock, I have to think two things:
    * UP: Stevens/Ainge
    * Down: Irving looks expendable, and to lesser extent Hayward.
    They've struggled on the road during the playoffs which isn't surprising given how young they are, but right now they're playing with a lot of confidence, hopefully they can win one in Cleveland, then close them out at home
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    Who is best black coach in nba? Racist lebron fired david blatt. Lue seems lost, bad hite by lebron
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    Quote Originally Posted by railbird View Post
    Who is best black coach in nba? Racist lebron fired david blatt. Lue seems lost, bad hite by lebron
    .

    I would guess Alvin Gentry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by railbird View Post
    Who is best black coach in nba? Racist lebron fired david blatt. Lue seems lost, bad hite by lebron
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    It most certainly was. LBJ made his bed and now he has to lay in it. I just watched Lue's postgame presser and even the reporters are trolling this fucking guy; this is where we find ourselves. Unbelievable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by railbird View Post
    Who is best black coach in nba? Racist lebron fired david blatt. Lue seems lost, bad hite by lebron
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    You calling someone else a racist is fucking funny, you're the biggest racist scumbag piece of shit here
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    It's all so clear now: Danny Ainge has been wheeling and dealing, trading and drafting with one player in mind: LeBron James.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kelly View Post
    It's all so clear now: Danny Ainge has been wheeling and dealing, trading and drafting with one player in mind: LeBron James.
    The Toronto GM wasn't(to hear him tell it) and you saw what happened to them.

    Boston will suffer the same fate because Cle is just better but their not much better and Stevens makes his team better than it is and Lue makes his team worse. Seriously JK, if we switched coaches, this wouldn't even be a Series because Boston wouldn't be here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GameBred View Post
    The Toronto GM wasn't and you saw what happened to them.

    Boston will suffer the same fate because Cle is just better but their not much better and Stevens makes his team better than it is and Lue makes his team worse. Seriously JK, if we switched coaches, this wouldn't even be a Series because Boston wouldn't be here.
    Game, let's combine both teams to form one starting lineup. Here's mine: LeBron, Tatum, Horford, Rozier, and Brown. What would be your starting lineup combining both teams
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    Quote Originally Posted by kane View Post
    Game, let's combine both teams to form one starting lineup. Here's mine: LeBron, Tatum, Horford, Rozier, and Brown. What would be your starting lineup combining both teams
    If Lue coached Boston, In your opinion, would they be here right now?

    Lue coaches Cle and they are here right now.

    I rest my case. Unless you really want to claim that Boston would be here under Lue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GameBred View Post
    If Lue coached Boston, In your opinion, would they be here right now?

    Lue coaches Cle and they are here right now.

    I rest my case. Unless you really want to claim that Boston would be here under Lue.
    They're not coached by Lue, but that doesn't change the fact that no one who knows basketball would take any of Cleveland's starters except LeBron, Boston has the better player at every position other than Lebron. Boston owns a top 5 defense, Cleveland's defense was ranked 29th. Boston has more better players, doesn't guarantee they win, but the thought that Cleveland is the better team makes no sense
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    Quote Originally Posted by kane View Post
    They're not coached by Lue, but that doesn't change the fact that no one who knows basketball would take any of Cleveland's starters except LeBron, Boston has the better player at every position other than Lebron. Boston owns a top 5 defense, Cleveland's defense was ranked 29th. Boston has more better players, doesn't guarantee they win, but the thought that Cleveland is the better team makes no sense
    Then why won't you answer my question? I just want your honest opinion. Do you think Bos would be here now if Lue coached them?

    So the market, that had Cle as Series favorites, despite not having HCA, doesn't know basketball?
    Men are born for games. Nothing else... the worth or merit of a game is not inherent in the game itself but rather in the value of that which is put at hazard. Games of chance require a wager to have meaning at all. Games of sport involve the pride of victory & the humiliation of defeat; which are themselves sufficient stake... But trial of chance or worth, all games aspire to the condition of war, for here, that which is wagered swallows up game, player, all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kane View Post
    They're not coached by Lue, but that doesn't change the fact that no one who knows basketball would take any of Cleveland's starters except LeBron, Boston has the better player at every position other than Lebron. Boston owns a top 5 defense, Cleveland's defense was ranked 29th. Boston has more better players, doesn't guarantee they win, but the thought that Cleveland is the better team makes no sense
    Too small a sample size, but the argument could be made that Stevens is the one that makes those players better. The Boston departed hasn't exactly lived up to the level of play they showed under Stevens. Hell, put Love on Boston and he may return to that 25-12 guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kane View Post
    They're not coached by Lue, but that doesn't change the fact that no one who knows basketball would take any of Cleveland's starters except LeBron, Boston has the better player at every position other than Lebron. Boston owns a top 5 defense, Cleveland's defense was ranked 29th. Boston has more better players, doesn't guarantee they win, but the thought that Cleveland is the better team makes no sense
    Let's clone Brad Stevens and have them go at it. IYO, who wins?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kane View Post
    Game, let's combine both teams to form one starting lineup. Here's mine: LeBron, Tatum, Horford, Rozier, and Brown. What would be your starting lineup combining both teams
    Kane's starting five has a shot against Golden State.

    Rozier would be the weak link.

    Stevens promoted "The Butler Way" as a college coach and now he's performing his magic at the NBA level.

    Great coaches are at their best when playing shorthanded.

    I loved Ty Lue as an overachieving player, not so much as an overmatched coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GameBred View Post
    Then why won't you answer my question? I just want your honest opinion. Do you think Bos would be here now if Lue coached them?

    So the market, that had Cle as Series favorites, despite not having HCA, doesn't know basketball?
    The same market that favored Philly by 4.5 at Boston, and made them something like 5-1 favorites, the market was wrong. The market thought OKC was better than Utah, the market thought Portland was better than NO. I'm not interested in the market's opinion, I'm going by what I see, and what I see is one team is clearly better. I've given you a laundry list of reasons why Boston is better, you've yet to give me one reason why Cleveland is better, except for them having LeBron. I don't know if Boston would be in the ECF if they were coached by Lue, I do know they're here, and they're a better team than Cleveland who's basically a one man gang. Cleveland's backcourt got outscored 41-3 by Boston's last night, how is a team better when their starting backcourt scored 3 more points than I did. The Celtics have better players, and play better defense, unless you're going to tell me JR Smith is better than Jaylen Brown, and George Hill is better than Terry Rozier, or Kevin Love is better than Al Horford, or Tristan Thompson is better than Jayson Tatum. If you're putting together a team combining the Celts and Cavs, 4 of the starters are coming from Boston. Like I keep saying, being the better team doesn't guarantee anything, but the thought that Cleveland is the better overall team makes no sense. Last night Cleveland shot 11 uncontested shots, Boston shot 42, that's one team playing great defense and moving the ball, and the other team playing poor defense and being forced to rely on one guy. You can have the last word as there's obviously nothing I can say that will make you realize which team is more talented, if you think a team in the bottom 5 defensively is better than a team in the top five defensively, that's certainly your right, we'll see how the series plays out.
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    Adjusted series price at William Hill entering Game 3 on Saturday: Boston -200/Cleveland +175.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kane View Post
    The same market that favored Philly by 4.5 at Boston, and made them something like 5-1 favorites, the market was wrong. The market thought OKC was better than Utah, the market thought Portland was better than NO. I'm not interested in the market's opinion, I'm going by what I see, and what I see is one team is clearly better. I've given you a laundry list of reasons why Boston is better, you've yet to give me one reason why Cleveland is better, except for them having LeBron. I don't know if Boston would be in the ECF if they were coached by Lue, I do know they're here, and they're a better team than Cleveland who's basically a one man gang. Cleveland's backcourt got outscored 41-3 by Boston's last night, how is a team better when their starting backcourt scored 3 more points than I did. The Celtics have better players, and play better defense, unless you're going to tell me JR Smith is better than Jaylen Brown, and George Hill is better than Terry Rozier, or Kevin Love is better than Al Horford, or Tristan Thompson is better than Jayson Tatum. If you're putting together a team combining the Celts and Cavs, 4 of the starters are coming from Boston. Like I keep saying, being the better team doesn't guarantee anything, but the thought that Cleveland is the better overall team makes no sense. Last night Cleveland shot 11 uncontested shots, Boston shot 42, that's one team playing great defense and moving the ball, and the other team playing poor defense and being forced to rely on one guy. You can have the last word as there's obviously nothing I can say that will make you realize which team is more talented, if you think a team in the bottom 5 defensively is better than a team in the top five defensively, that's certainly your right, we'll see how the series plays out.
    As it often is. The Market is Macro-efficient w/ Micro-inefficiencies and this very well may be one of those inefficiencies; tough to say. I don't think so as I think Cle is just better but I am always updating my beliefs so if my opinion changes, you will be the first to know.

    I'm not trying to pick a fight, just get a question answered. If you don't want to answer it, that is your prerogative.
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    Just going to post its that time of year for Brick apologists to crank up the excuses.

    Carry on.

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