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    Just in: Voter initiative to legalize sports betting in California was just filed with the state Attorney General on Monday. Voter group, aptly named “Californians for Sports Betting,” seeks to place the initiative on the November 2020 ballot.

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    Why wait so long? Pot biz doing well?

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    No, the pot biz is not nearly up to forecasted revenues, taxed too much, so the local dealers still are players. Indians want the sport money, voting is just a ponzi scheme of the left here in CA.

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    Legalized national sports betting helps promote Las Vegas and Las Vegas-style sports betting.

    Legalized sports betting in California will take a bite out of Las Vegas's pie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by railbird View Post
    Just in: Voter initiative to legalize sports betting in California was just filed with the state Attorney General on Monday. Voter group, aptly named “Californians for Sports Betting,” seeks to place the initiative on the November 2020 ballot.
    Nice but 2020 is too effen long. They should do it on THIS year's 2018 ballot.

    Thank God no more trips to Vegas to have to bet sports legally once this passes.
    Money lost gambling is twice as bad as money lost on something else..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleface View Post
    Nice but 2020 is too effen long. They should do it on THIS year's 2018 ballot.

    Thank God no more trips to Vegas to have to bet sports legally once this passes.
    Agree, why wait until 2020?

    It will be naïve to think that Vegas won't take a hit if Arizona and California legalize it.
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    It figures. I probably will be out of Cali within two years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleface View Post
    Nice but 2020 is too effen long. They should do it on THIS year's 2018 ballot.

    Thank God no more trips to Vegas to have to bet sports legally once this passes.
    Quote Originally Posted by FairWarning View Post
    Agree, why wait until 2020?

    It will be naïve to think that Vegas won't take a hit if Arizona and California legalize it.
    There isn't enough time to get on the 2018 ballot.

    The initiative process has just started, California requires completion of the process 131 days before an election date to get on a particular ballot. Currently only 147 days are left till the Nov 6, 2018 general election so considering the signature gathering and verification time frames, 2018 is out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComptrBob View Post
    There isn't enough time to get on the 2018 ballot.

    The initiative process has just started, California requires completion of the process 131 days before an election date to get on a particular ballot. Currently only 147 days are left till the Nov 6, 2018 general election so considering the signature gathering and verification time frames, 2018 is out.
    Oh that sucks.

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    Slots rule in CA. If the hold percentages were comprable they would have had it on by the end of June deadline. Even the greedy Indians have said that sports betting is more of a hassle than a pot of gold. They know the numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heim View Post
    Slots rule in CA. If the hold percentages were comprable they would have had it on by the end of June deadline. Even the greedy Indians have said that sports betting is more of a hassle than a pot of gold. They know the numbers.

    The greedy Indians are missing the big picture.

    If others offer sports betting and you don't, it's a competitive disadvantage.

    That's why every hotel/casino in Las Vegas offers sports betting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kelly View Post
    The greedy Indians are missing the big picture.

    If others offer sports betting and you don't, it's a competitive disadvantage.

    That's why every hotel/casino in Las Vegas offers sports betting.

    Let's assume Vegas was also a slots and table game venue only like the reservations. Would they rush to get books onto their floors with this new ruling? Aren't the books in Vegas a vehicle to keep the whales on their property? Just a courtesy so they don't elsewhere. Ballys stop booking baseball a few years back and their bottom-line barely flinched.

    The Stardust made bookmaking vogue but the celebs that went their to bet sports dropped tons at the tables too. We know that 4.5% is easier to beat than most games around but so do the books. Westgate is the only hotel I know that moved slots to expand a book. So I think we're kidding ourselves believing anyone besides New Jersey is doing cartwheels re this recent ruling....
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    The Stardust was smart in promoting its property through the sports book.

    The Westgate, under Jay Kornegay's direction, followed suit.

    Heim knows the history.

    Sports betting is an appetizer or maybe a dessert but it will never be the main course (tables and slots).

    Corporate meetings at the big-name resorts rarely deal with the sports book except for Super Bowl week, March Madness or a mega-fight.

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    is there any non indian casino's in calif ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTop View Post
    is there any non indian casino's in calif ?
    Card clubs are not considered casinos in California.

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    so it is card clubs and indians that is it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTop View Post
    is there any non indian casino's in calif ?
    Bingo rooms, maybe?

    And of course racetracks and simulcast facilities.

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    some agreement between Indians only in california . MGM, caesars & friends not allowed or choose not to ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kelly View Post
    Bingo rooms, maybe?

    And of course racetracks and simulcast facilities.
    Lots of poker casinos, bay 101, commerce hollywood park, etc

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    Those 3 take horses, there is some sports bars that take horses

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    Ox tavern in sanclemente takes horse wagering

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    I know I will. What a shithole of crime and homeless beggars.
    Don't wake up in a roadside ditch

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    How's this: We're voting on splitting the state into three this November?

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    Indians aren't that stupid. Sports betting brings in asses in masses for NFL Sunday's, NCAAF on Saturday. Playoffs, bowl games and NCAA Tournament. There will be cross-betting into the slots and table games.

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    Exactly, cheaper than running a buffet all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O'Royken View Post
    Indians aren't that stupid. Sports betting brings in asses in masses for NFL Sunday's, NCAAF on Saturday. Playoffs, bowl games and NCAA Tournament. There will be cross-betting into the slots and table games.

    I always thought the Indians could have offered sports betting without government approval.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kelly View Post
    I always thought the Indians could have offered sports betting without government approval.
    I understand your logic, but I’ve never seen it in any Indian casino outside of Nevada.
    Horses, but not sports...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazy Pete View Post
    I understand your logic, but I’ve never seen it in any Indian casino outside of Nevada.
    Horses, but not sports...

    Never.

    But I don't think PAPSA applied to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O'Royken View Post
    Indians aren't that stupid. Sports betting brings in asses in masses for NFL Sunday's, NCAAF on Saturday. Playoffs, bowl games and NCAA Tournament. There will be cross-betting into the slots and table games.
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    I'd like to know what special interest groups keep opposing sports betting now pushing it to a vote. The assembly will pass the stupidest revenue generating laws, for example, new law restricting resident (interior) water use to 55 gallons per day. First offense 1k fine. So you can't do laundry & take a shower the same day. But they don't want a steady revenue flow from gamblers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kelly View Post
    Never.

    But I don't think PAPSA applied to them.
    Indians run crap tables but can't use dice b/c that is a CA law. Total and usual hypocrisy of government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTop View Post
    some agreement between Indians only in california . MGM, caesars & friends not allowed or choose not to ?
    Could be a state law to make it Indian only. Michigan has a similar agreement. I think only 2 casinos are not Indian-owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by railbird View Post
    Ox tavern in sanclemente takes horse wagering
    It's OC tavern. Before they took horses I allowed patrons to wager through my accounts while the owner had the races on.
    Sammy's in Lake Forest is a great bar to wager with more tellers and betting machines. Some large Pick 6 tickets hit there. According to the owner, he'll be able to take Sports Bets when approved. Not sure how much truth to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heim View Post
    I'd like to know what special interest groups keep opposing sports betting now pushing it to a vote. The assembly will pass the stupidest revenue generating laws, for example, new law restricting resident (interior) water use to 55 gallons per day. First offense 1k fine. So you can't do laundry & take a shower the same day. But they don't want a steady revenue flow from gamblers.
    Good chance its one who is being backed by Vegas interests. Boyd was backing an anti-casino coalition here because it would Be in direct competition with their Blue Chip Casino.

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    I've never understood these California casino gambling laws. Indian casinos are the only ones to have "Vegas style" gambling. The card rooms can't bank. Why not just give people what they want? And why be so PC and give the Indians everything they ask for? I don't have complete trust in those Indian casinos. Imagine the scenario if you were cheated by them and went to tribal court. That would be a real fair trial (insert eye rolling emogie).

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