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Old 06-14-06, 03:07 AM   #1
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You to guys need to forget about the money you two broke dicks.

This is what happened.

Mo owes KTB the money he made bets and lost.

KTB is a former bookmaker and has admitted to this on the other site.
He a couple of years ago admitted to taking bets part time.

Mo is a likeable idiot who has no contoll over his gambling. KTB who knew Mo took the action and held it. He has never been able to prove to anyone he turned the bets in.


I see this as a player who stiffed a local. I think all locals are crooks and they deserve to get stiffed now and then for charging the outrageous juice.

So money lost the money KTB never turned any of the action in if he did it was not much and when Mo started losing he probabbly not only held the action but faded it as well.

I saw each of you guys put up $3000 in a winner take all baseball handicapping contest.

That is the real story.

You guys bury this bad blood and have a contest.
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Old 06-14-06, 08:18 AM   #2
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cannon, you are a lovable idiot.


i was up 3600 with KTB that he confirmed, he also admits to not putting in 1800 in wins.
5300$ i was up


what happened to it? i have KTB quotes lying all over this forum. when i DID owe KTB i paid him, i said that and he said that.

you tell me what happened to the 5300$ i won off him, why i never saw it, and why it was suddenly gone the day after he announces to freewinners.com that he has a baby boy on the way

just b/c i did not air all his personal business on freewinners.com doesnt mean i couldnt have. i was banned...he lied about many things, including phone # changes i never made, email changes. im just telling ya....
ktb is a liar, a cheat, a stiff and everything else. people here that Know me know i would forfeit 5300 or 10K in 2 minutes for someones family or anything else. people know that and ktb knew it.
explain....cannon




5300 he owed ME, that he Admits to, just disappeared?





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Old 06-14-06, 08:21 AM   #3
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lets explain a few of these things.....


"your multi k parlay...bullshit...it was 300 parlay at 12-1 which is what a 4 teamer is..it would have paid $3600....tired of that lie..." -ktb (now)

"Here is what happened.
Mo won 200 from me in the contest..mo has been betting it and me placing it for him, he had it built up to 3600"


"(MO)...played a 1400 parlay today(that is what he had left) with NE -1.5 winner, Det ml winner, Pitt ml winner and Wash -2..would have paid over $9k"
-KTB_krusher (then)

soooo....as i said...1k+ parlays to bet out of what u owed....the day after you announce to the board, and a couple days after u explain to me, that you just found out yuo are having a child. You use the kid to get me to let you out of the 3600/5300$ which is MORE than fine and something i can respect. a new pops needs to save and thats HUGE news and i was Very excited for you, but dont claim these things did not happen at the EXACT same time....weird aint it? never played a parlay and was up an honest 5300 with you. you tell me you are going to have a baby boy and cant be paying this...i am wagering with huge parlays to go out and let u have some diginity about it. as wel discussed you wanted at that time. u tell eveyrone here u KNOW it was just ONE 300$ parlay. why did you speak to eog.com posters so matter of factly about it? b/c im banned o the other site and you didnt think i could pull some quotes?

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"all you do is lie...
man it kills me...
um when you lost the money was when??? my son was born when??"

he says this as if he did NOT announce to me he was having a kid JUST before my betting out of what he owed thru parlays...he said he DID not say that or do that and seems to be implying that those two things were not close as far as in any time period...funny what happens when you tell the truth and then see what ktb has created for himself with lies. on freewinners.com the DAY before i run my parlays to lose the money so he can go out with "dignity", as he put it, he announces he is gonna have a child. i can link it, copy and paste it, or anything else...but i would rather listen to him lie ONE more time about it so i can have a chuckle and then turn him in. hes alrady lied about it here...i can PROVE the things happened at the same time...
also, as i have noted many times. i did not make ONE teaser, parlay, prop or anything other than single game ATS wagers with ktb_krusher to go up from 200$ to 5300$ in 10 days. fact.
honesty...just dont lie. all works out.
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"you had like 4 plays that did not get put in that is true" -KTB
biggest play was Michigan ATS for 800. totalled 1800$ in plays not in, all plays not put in were victories. All were put in WELL before hand and exactly as i was aked to put them in. somehow, all losses were in tho. least he admits this...amazing guy
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"another correction..i dont have your # or email..i was told you moved or it changed...however the first time you got the boot at freewinners and you were gone....i deleted everything about you because i thought you were gone forever"

this is his excuse for LYING to everyone and telling them that i changd my phone # and email, which i never did. he posted all this while i was not even around, thinking i would never find out. I never changed anything. Also, he claims to have "deleted everything about" me, once i was kicked off the site. yet...he still pulls PMs from the site when he thinks they support him. and while they do show how kind i was and support everything i have already claimed, its obvious he did not delete anything. which means he is lying, again, about everything. i did not change my info (he lies), and he, obviously, did not delete everything about b/c he thought i was "gone forever".
pattern here? yes, he lies. about anything and everything.
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you cant, he is just a liar and a scammer

those are the facts. and now he claims on here he lays 109 units in a day?





its my fault for being sympathetic to him...and thats all. think about it. im up 5300$. he announces having a kid and i parlay my way out of it with PARLAYS (FOUR TEAM) parlays over 1400$? i had never played a 10$ parlay with him....sudddenly a child is coming and i chose to do that with my 5300?





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Old 06-14-06, 08:48 AM   #4
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And who is paying me my $100.00 for winning the contest 2 years ago.

I am still waiting.
No big deal but still never got paid although tons of promises over the years.

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Old 06-14-06, 09:06 AM   #5
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spookster.

i remember OB was supposed to send funds since he never paid but said he wouldnt pay you. he was going to send my money, per your arrangements, and then i was to send to you. lots went on with that while i was banned, i got the word tho.
i see you come around and talk about these things on the forums but never email anyone...hard to get things solved when someone says they are going to email each day and you never hear from them





i havent gotten a spooky email reply in well over a year...sometimes i just hope he is ok.


but that aside, it was funny to see how many people never showed back up. i couldnt believe scotty left mid season and Big Shot MTG just never came back....
the Ob was ridiculous calling you a cheater or what not...
odd happenings.

well i know you have my email if you would ever like to talk on life, sometimes i miss spooky

anyway, it was lovely coming in 2nd to the spookster. i here your baby boy has gotten some of your capping genes...uh oh


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Old 06-15-06, 06:34 PM   #6
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Joe, you know this time of year I barely have time to post a contest play let alone email or call. I will more than gladly chat in the off season, but right now I am slammed at work. You know it is my busy season.
You can see how often I post now, seldom or none at all.

Absolutely you know in football season and stuff I communicate.

That said, I was talking about Kemiho payment that was promised over and over. OB was never gonna pay. He made nice, nice with me on private message but wanted bygones to be bygones. Bottom line, he lost and didnt want to pay.

But the payment I was talking about was for the original contest that you were paying me and promised on email.
But we can discuss that on further emails not in public.

Gotta go.

Good Luck.
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Old 06-15-06, 07:18 PM   #7
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spooks...what were the details with OB? he was suppsoed to send to me and then i to u...

yeah i know ur busy as hell....but spooky talks are good for the bones.

then 2-4 other peolpe just never came back....some peolpe who cliamed to be real big timers...




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