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IDENTITY · 12-10-06, 12:09 AM

I'd take him over Quinn any day. Quinn will be a bust.

dirty · 12-10-06, 12:11 AM

What did you watch the IDNW

IDENTITY · 12-10-06, 12:28 AM

huh?

The_Man · 12-10-06, 03:59 AM

yeah sorry, but black qbs dont win superbowls, end of story.

made a little over a cool mil offshore following this system.

quinn over smith

brohm (louisville) over quinn and smith

mofome · 12-10-06, 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Man

yeah sorry, but black qbs dont win superbowls, end of story.

made a little over a cool mil offshore following this system.

quinn over smith

brohm (louisville) over quinn and smith

what about doug williams u stupid fuck. if you break down the percentage of black starters in NFL history that have won a super bowl compared to the percentage of white QBs who have won one, which percentage is higher?

thats the end of the story. get a fucking education you sorry sack of shit.

teams win super bowls, not Qbs and not an ethnicity. but congrats to you for making the most ignorant comment ive ever read, fortunately there are peolpe like me, who happen to drop loads of shit in the toilet that are brighter than you, to tell you how things really are.

you got it?

jakethompson · 12-10-06, 04:50 AM

I think there's about a 0.5% chance Smith goes #1.

First off, he's way too small. He's listed at 6'1" but many say he is closer to 5'11". He has speed but isn't Michael Vick-esque.

He may get converted at the next level because it's very possible he won't be able to see over his lineman in the pocket.

Then again, Oakland is probably picking #1 and they are incredibly dumb in the front office lately.

doc mercer · 12-10-06, 08:22 AM

Smith wont go in the 1st round ...

he is like Andre Ware and Charlie Ward: a man who will be a trivia
question 10 yrs from now

Quinn is a stud .... Quinn will be the 1st qb taken and Identity must
smoke some good pot

wrigley · 12-10-06, 10:09 AM

ID who is saying that should be fired most dont even have Smith going in the first round.

NFL Draft Countdown - 2007 NFL Mock Draft

doc mercer · 12-10-06, 10:17 AM

Wrigley:

would ya spend a first rounder on this guy?

Great college player with super numbers ... so did many others that won
the Heisman

He wont go in the first round and destined to be a trivia question

Congrats on a great Career, Smith ... learn to wrap up when you tackle
as he has the athletic ability to play safety but can forget about playing
qb in the pros

IDENTITY · 12-10-06, 10:20 AM

he throws great, is very elusive, and is very strong. most importantly, hes a WINNER. that goes a long way in football.

IDENTITY · 12-10-06, 10:21 AM

wrigs - on ESPN they were saying teams would be dumb not to draft troy #1. they say the bowl game will decide which QB will go #1.

wrigley · 12-10-06, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IDENTITY

wrigs - on ESPN they were saying teams would be dumb not to draft troy #1. they say the bowl game will decide which QB will go #1.

Unless Troy Smith grows 3 inches I dont think the bowl games will have a impact.

Top Quarterbacks 2007 NFL Draft

1. Brady Quinn, Notre Dame
2. Brian Brohm*, Louisville
3. Drew Stanton, Michigan State
4. Jordan Palmer, UTEP
5. Kyle Wright*, Miami-Fla.
6. Chad Henne*, Michigan
7. Tyler Palko, Pittsburgh
8. Troy Smith, Ohio State
9. Trent Edwards, Stanford
10. John Beck, BYU
11. Chris Leak, Florida
12. Sam Kellar, Arizona State.

*underclassmen would need to declare

wrigley · 12-10-06, 10:38 AM

Troy Smith

Negatives:
As athletically gifted as Smith is, he is rather small for a QB, with some reports of his height being as low as 5' 11”, although his generally accepted height is the still rather short 6' 1”.

His lean frame won't lend him well to the sheer pounding of the NFL. Another concern is his accuracy; one cannot help but notice his receivers adjust and even abandon routes to get to one of many balls that he throws off-target.

Also, in his year and a half of starting prior to the 2006 season, Smith had a tendency to take off and run a bit more often than you like to see for an NFL prospect.

pioneer · 12-10-06, 11:06 AM

"As athletically gifted as Smith is, he is rather small for a QB, with some reports of his height being as low as 5' 11”, although his generally accepted height is the still rather short 6' 1”.

...after seeing him side by side Brady, he's 5-11. He will not play QB in the pros

doc mercer · 12-10-06, 11:40 AM

Hes no Drew Brees ... Brees is the Big 10 qb in the confc history and
Brees didnt go in the first round

Anyone drafting this kid in the 1st rd needs to get out of the game

doc mercer · 12-10-06, 11:41 AM

Pioneer: very accurate statement ....

10 yrs from now when asked to name Heisman winners from OSU ... most
folks will struggle to name Smith

pioneer · 12-10-06, 12:02 PM

I love Troy smith and OSU, but let's face reality...he's Charlie Ward without the hoops skills!

UWinSports · 12-10-06, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mofome

what about doug williams u stupid fuck. if you break down the percentage of black starters in NFL history that have won a super bowl compared to the percentage of white QBs who have won one, which percentage is higher?

thats the end of the story. get a fucking education you sorry sack of shit.

teams win super bowls, not Qbs and not an ethnicity. but congrats to you for making the most ignorant comment ive ever read, fortunately there are peolpe like me, who happen to drop loads of shit in the toilet that are brighter than you, to tell you how things really are.

you got it?

this shows u are young and stupid.

wrigley · 12-10-06, 01:30 PM

Smith would have a better chance as a QB or even a receiver in the CFL bet he ends up there in a few years.

LLXC · 12-10-06, 01:38 PM

He is quite versatile though and can possibly move to RB/WR?

LLXC · 12-10-06, 01:39 PM

Well, with those reasons, he probably would not go #1...but with all this hype, he will be up there.

winkyduck · 12-10-06, 01:41 PM

ZERO prayer of this happening. i would sooner bet on you showing up to the EOG Blast than Smith going #1 overall

Quinn is almost a sure thing to go #1

Hitdogg42 · 12-10-06, 01:45 PM

Doc how much would you wager that Smith goes in round 2......After all the questions about Vince Young gettnig past Houston and Carr failing, If you think a struggling franchise like the Browns let him slide by, you are WRONG......Cleveland will not let Troy Smith past pick 10-12, think of all the pressure the Browns will have to take this guy......Once again DOC your soooooo wrong it's starting to be funny,........

Hitdogg

doc mercer · 12-10-06, 01:58 PM

SMITH wont go in the first round as he has very avg qb skills ... he is
nothing but the AA version of Toretta and Wuerffel

Better odds on Hitdogg graduating from High School than Smith going
in the first rd

wrigley · 12-10-06, 02:01 PM

Agree DOC Vince Young is 6'5 240,
Carr is 6'3 and 230

Troy Smith is 5'11 and 210 ringing wet any team that drafts a player for the sole reason the player played his college ball in the state should fire the person who is doing the drafting.

doc mercer · 12-10-06, 02:32 PM

Hitdogg:

Cleveland will not let Troy Smith past pick 10-12, think of all the pressure the Browns will have to take this guy ...

OMG ...with Clevelands problems if you think they waste a high draft pick
on a kid that is available in the later rounds you need to cut back to
12 bong hits a day

IDENTITY · 12-10-06, 03:08 PM

you guys are crazy if you think troy smith does not go in the first 2 rounds. LOL

wrigley · 12-10-06, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IDENTITY

you guys are crazy if you think troy smith does not go in the first 2 rounds. LOL

Going in the second round is alot different then being the number one pick as you state in the title of your thread
so which one is it ID?

doc mercer · 12-10-06, 04:17 PM

Here is how Identity's thread reads:

They are saying Troy Smith may be the #1 pick in the NFL Draft.

doc mercer · 12-10-06, 04:25 PM

Identity ... wow ... soo now Smith will be one of the top 64 picks after your
thread was how he would be the #1 overall pick

Too funny ... Quinn has better mechanics and schooled under
Weiss and if you think Smith is going ahead of Quinn please give
us all the number of your pot dealer as he must sell some great
shit!!

mofome · 12-10-06, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UWinSports

this shows u are young and stupid.

no, it shows that i know much more than you and your racist pal. you think you are an enlightened fellow? that would make one person who thinks as much.

we've got a nice little forum of racism, its quite a nice group.

12-10-06, 12:11 AM	#2
dirty EOG Consigliere' Join Date: Aug 26, 2005 Location: Jawja Posts: 62,859	Re: They are saying Troy Smith may be the #1 pick in the NFL Draft. What did you watch the IDNW

12-10-06, 12:28 AM	#3
IDENTITY NFL Expert Join Date: Aug 19, 2005 Posts: 12,384	Re: They are saying Troy Smith may be the #1 pick in the NFL Draft. huh?

12-10-06, 03:59 AM	#4
The_Man EOG Senior Member Join Date: Aug 23, 2005 Posts: 370	Re: They are saying Troy Smith may be the #1 pick in the NFL Draft. yeah sorry, but black qbs dont win superbowls, end of story. made a little over a cool mil offshore following this system. quinn over smith brohm (louisville) over quinn and smith

12-10-06, 04:50 AM	#6
jakethompson Fantasy Football Messiah Join Date: Aug 20, 2005 Posts: 2,829	Re: They are saying Troy Smith may be the #1 pick in the NFL Draft. I think there's about a 0.5% chance Smith goes #1. First off, he's way too small. He's listed at 6'1" but many say he is closer to 5'11". He has speed but isn't Michael Vick-esque. He may get converted at the next level because it's very possible he won't be able to see over his lineman in the pocket. Then again, Oakland is probably picking #1 and they are incredibly dumb in the front office lately.

12-10-06, 08:22 AM	#7
doc mercer Banned Join Date: Apr 05, 2006 Posts: 22,504	Re: They are saying Troy Smith may be the #1 pick in the NFL Draft. Smith wont go in the 1st round ... he is like Andre Ware and Charlie Ward: a man who will be a trivia question 10 yrs from now Quinn is a stud .... Quinn will be the 1st qb taken and Identity must smoke some good pot

12-10-06, 12:09 AM	#1
IDENTITY NFL Expert Join Date: Aug 19, 2005 Posts: 12,384	They are saying Troy Smith may be the #1 pick in the NFL Draft. I'd take him over Quinn any day. Quinn will be a bust.

12-10-06, 10:09 AM	#8
wrigley Business has just picked up Join Date: Aug 20, 2005 Posts: 9,394	Re: They are saying Troy Smith may be the #1 pick in the NFL Draft. ID who is saying that should be fired most dont even have Smith going in the first round. NFL Draft Countdown - 2007 NFL Mock Draft

12-10-06, 10:17 AM	#9
doc mercer Banned Join Date: Apr 05, 2006 Posts: 22,504	Re: They are saying Troy Smith may be the #1 pick in the NFL Draft. Wrigley: would ya spend a first rounder on this guy? Great college player with super numbers ... so did many others that won the Heisman He wont go in the first round and destined to be a trivia question Congrats on a great Career, Smith ... learn to wrap up when you tackle as he has the athletic ability to play safety but can forget about playing qb in the pros

12-10-06, 10:20 AM	#10
IDENTITY NFL Expert Join Date: Aug 19, 2005 Posts: 12,384	Re: They are saying Troy Smith may be the #1 pick in the NFL Draft. he throws great, is very elusive, and is very strong. most importantly, hes a WINNER. that goes a long way in football.

12-10-06, 10:21 AM	#11
IDENTITY NFL Expert Join Date: Aug 19, 2005 Posts: 12,384	Re: They are saying Troy Smith may be the #1 pick in the NFL Draft. wrigs - on ESPN they were saying teams would be dumb not to draft troy #1. they say the bowl game will decide which QB will go #1.

12-10-06, 10:38 AM	#13
wrigley Business has just picked up Join Date: Aug 20, 2005 Posts: 9,394	Re: They are saying Troy Smith may be the #1 pick in the NFL Draft. Troy Smith Negatives: As athletically gifted as Smith is, he is rather small for a QB, with some reports of his height being as low as 5' 11”, although his generally accepted height is the still rather short 6' 1”. His lean frame won't lend him well to the sheer pounding of the NFL. Another concern is his accuracy; one cannot help but notice his receivers adjust and even abandon routes to get to one of many balls that he throws off-target. Also, in his year and a half of starting prior to the 2006 season, Smith had a tendency to take off and run a bit more often than you like to see for an NFL prospect.

12-10-06, 11:06 AM	#14
pioneer EOG Dedicated Join Date: Aug 20, 2005 Posts: 3,592	Re: They are saying Troy Smith may be the #1 pick in the NFL Draft. "As athletically gifted as Smith is, he is rather small for a QB, with some reports of his height being as low as 5' 11”, although his generally accepted height is the still rather short 6' 1”. ...after seeing him side by side Brady, he's 5-11. He will not play QB in the pros

12-10-06, 11:40 AM	#15
doc mercer Banned Join Date: Apr 05, 2006 Posts: 22,504	Re: They are saying Troy Smith may be the #1 pick in the NFL Draft. Hes no Drew Brees ... Brees is the Big 10 qb in the confc history and Brees didnt go in the first round Anyone drafting this kid in the 1st rd needs to get out of the game

12-10-06, 11:41 AM	#16
doc mercer Banned Join Date: Apr 05, 2006 Posts: 22,504	Re: They are saying Troy Smith may be the #1 pick in the NFL Draft. Pioneer: very accurate statement .... 10 yrs from now when asked to name Heisman winners from OSU ... most folks will struggle to name Smith

12-10-06, 12:02 PM	#17
pioneer EOG Dedicated Join Date: Aug 20, 2005 Posts: 3,592	Re: They are saying Troy Smith may be the #1 pick in the NFL Draft. I love Troy smith and OSU, but let's face reality...he's Charlie Ward without the hoops skills!

12-10-06, 01:30 PM	#19
wrigley Business has just picked up Join Date: Aug 20, 2005 Posts: 9,394	Re: They are saying Troy Smith may be the #1 pick in the NFL Draft. Smith would have a better chance as a QB or even a receiver in the CFL bet he ends up there in a few years.

12-10-06, 01:38 PM	#20
LLXC EOG Addicted Join Date: Jan 09, 2006 Posts: 869	Re: They are saying Troy Smith may be the #1 pick in the NFL Draft. He is quite versatile though and can possibly move to RB/WR?

12-10-06, 01:39 PM	#21
LLXC EOG Addicted Join Date: Jan 09, 2006 Posts: 869	Re: They are saying Troy Smith may be the #1 pick in the NFL Draft. Well, with those reasons, he probably would not go #1...but with all this hype, he will be up there.

12-10-06, 01:41 PM	#22
winkyduck The Sultan of Twat Join Date: Aug 22, 2005 Location: ANY place that doesn't have MORONS who waste their money on CFB Teasers Posts: 13,131	Re: They are saying Troy Smith may be the #1 pick in the NFL Draft. ZERO prayer of this happening. i would sooner bet on you showing up to the EOG Blast than Smith going #1 overall Quinn is almost a sure thing to go #1

12-10-06, 01:45 PM	#23
Hitdogg42 EOG Dedicated Join Date: Nov 11, 2005 Posts: 2,027	Re: They are saying Troy Smith may be the #1 pick in the NFL Draft. Doc how much would you wager that Smith goes in round 2......After all the questions about Vince Young gettnig past Houston and Carr failing, If you think a struggling franchise like the Browns let him slide by, you are WRONG......Cleveland will not let Troy Smith past pick 10-12, think of all the pressure the Browns will have to take this guy......Once again DOC your soooooo wrong it's starting to be funny,........ Hitdogg

12-10-06, 01:58 PM	#24
doc mercer Banned Join Date: Apr 05, 2006 Posts: 22,504	Re: They are saying Troy Smith may be the #1 pick in the NFL Draft. SMITH wont go in the first round as he has very avg qb skills ... he is nothing but the AA version of Toretta and Wuerffel Better odds on Hitdogg graduating from High School than Smith going in the first rd

12-10-06, 02:01 PM	#25
wrigley Business has just picked up Join Date: Aug 20, 2005 Posts: 9,394	Re: They are saying Troy Smith may be the #1 pick in the NFL Draft. Agree DOC Vince Young is 6'5 240, Carr is 6'3 and 230 Troy Smith is 5'11 and 210 ringing wet any team that drafts a player for the sole reason the player played his college ball in the state should fire the person who is doing the drafting.

12-10-06, 02:32 PM	#26
doc mercer Banned Join Date: Apr 05, 2006 Posts: 22,504	Re: They are saying Troy Smith may be the #1 pick in the NFL Draft. Hitdogg: Cleveland will not let Troy Smith past pick 10-12, think of all the pressure the Browns will have to take this guy ... OMG ...with Clevelands problems if you think they waste a high draft pick on a kid that is available in the later rounds you need to cut back to 12 bong hits a day

12-10-06, 03:08 PM	#27
IDENTITY NFL Expert Join Date: Aug 19, 2005 Posts: 12,384	Re: They are saying Troy Smith may be the #1 pick in the NFL Draft. you guys are crazy if you think troy smith does not go in the first 2 rounds. LOL

12-10-06, 04:17 PM	#29
doc mercer Banned Join Date: Apr 05, 2006 Posts: 22,504	Re: They are saying Troy Smith may be the #1 pick in the NFL Draft. Here is how Identity's thread reads: They are saying Troy Smith may be the #1 pick in the NFL Draft.

12-10-06, 04:25 PM	#30
doc mercer Banned Join Date: Apr 05, 2006 Posts: 22,504	Re: They are saying Troy Smith may be the #1 pick in the NFL Draft. Identity ... wow ... soo now Smith will be one of the top 64 picks after your thread was how he would be the #1 overall pick Too funny ... Quinn has better mechanics and schooled under Weiss and if you think Smith is going ahead of Quinn please give us all the number of your pot dealer as he must sell some great shit!!