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    September 29 7:07 PM Mohawk 8 2.00 SF (PWHL) 3, 5, 6 / 3, 5, 6 / 3, 5, 6, 7, 8 / 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 $144.00

  • #2
    Re: Guess who got 4th

    On a side note the 5 in this 9th race is the live one, whether they boat race it or not is another story.

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    • #3
      Re: Guess who got 4th

      September 29 8:08 PM Mohawk 11 0.20 SF (PWHL) 2, 4, 5 / 2, 4, 5 / 2, 4, 5, 9 / 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 $16.80
      September 29 7:59 PM Mohawk 11 0.20 E5 (PWHL) 2, 4, 5 / 2, 4, 5 / 2, 4, 5, 9 / 2, 4, 5, 6, 9 / 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 9 $14.40

      Didnt screw around with that one, but it was only a 20 center twice for super once for super 5....
      September 29 8:08 PM Mohawk 11 0.20 SF (PWHL) 2, 4, 5 / 2, 4, 5 / 2, 4, 5, 9 / 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 $16.80
      September 29 7:59 PM Mohawk 11 0.20 E5 (PWHL) 2, 4, 5 / 2, 4, 5 / 2, 4, 5, 9 / 2, 4, 5, 8, 9 / 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9
      $14.40

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      • #4
        Re: Guess who got 4th

        something going on there no results yet been 5 minutes....

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        • #5
          Re: Guess who got 4th

          September 29 8:08 PM Mohawk 11 0.20 SF (PWHL) 2, 4, 5 / 2, 4, 5 / 2, 4, 5, 9 / 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 $16.80 $125.63
          September 29 7:59 PM Mohawk 11 0.20 E5 (PWHL) 2, 4, 5 / 2, 4, 5 / 2, 4, 5, 9 / 2, 4, 5, 6, 9 / 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 9 $14.40 $0.00
          September 29 8:08 PM Mohawk 11 0.20 SF (PWHL) 2, 4, 5 / 2, 4, 5 / 2, 4, 5, 9 / 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 $16.80 $125.63
          September 29 7:59 PM Mohawk 11 0.20 E5 (PWHL) 2, 4, 5 / 2, 4, 5 / 2, 4, 5, 9 / 2, 4, 5, 8, 9 / 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9 $14.40 $578.45

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          • #6
            Re: Guess who got 4th

            September 30 4:36 PM Mohawk 1 0.20 P5 (PWHL) 6 / 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 / 8 / 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 / 4 $16.00

            might be over early

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            • #7
              Re: Guess who got 4th

              yup broke....

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              • #8
                Re: Guess who got 4th

                should have know this fucking dump on a saturday they break everyone the first race with a horse that has never won a race.

                they did the same thing last saturday with bombs the first few races.

                On a night where there should be a ton of money due to these series finals everyone not at the track watching at OTBs just tuned out because no one bets that place when they pull their bullshit. If they didnt cheat so bad they would handle more money than any other harness track in the world.

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                • #9
                  Re: Guess who got 4th

                  same trainer has top 3 finishers.....

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                  • #10
                    Re: Guess who got 4th

                    Now I KNOW its not my night......

                    September 30 5:11 PM Mohawk 3 0.20 SF (PWHL) 6, 8 / 1, 6, 7, 8 / 1, 2, 6, 7, 8 / 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8 $14.40


                    September 30 5:11 PM Mohawk 3 5.00 WPS 6 $15.00

                    get beat for 3rd by the one I had for 4th... I have 6-8-2-5 of course

                    20 center pays 900

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                    • #11
                      Re: Guess who got 4th

                      September 30 5:40 PM Mohawk 4 5.00 WPS 6 $15.00

                      6 is live as hell here too just a question of if he has enough

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                      • #12
                        Re: Guess who got 4th

                        if he gets out with more than 10 feet to go he wins easy....

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                        • #13
                          Re: Guess who got 4th

                          Mohawk special in this next race maybe. 2 is a 12-1 ML and the 4 is a layover and 9-5 ML is too big yet pick 3 pay offs for the 2: 117.90 horse is 2 for 24 life time and someone has already bet 1650 or more on her. 4 is a 354.45 pick 3. 11 for 27 lifetime 9 for 16 this year.

                          Never say never but thats how this track goes the 2 is for sure alive but if the 2 and 4 raced 100 times the 4 would win 100 of them if she didnt die. But you can be damn sure I will waste some money on this 2.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Guess who got 4th

                            LOL someone just took 1500 off the 2. Not sure if they bet that pick 3 and screwed up or not, but a weird weird sequence. 2 is also a 20 center in the pick 5. in the Pick 5 the 4 is a complete lay over with a 45K pay off the only one close is the 10 at 105K most of the others are all 20 cent single tickkets and a coupe of them will pay 4 of 5.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Guess who got 4th

                              cant catch a break tonight...

                              2 million to one shots battling it out for 4th

                              tri prob pays 80 for for 20 cents and the super pays 900. Now there is inquiry prob get nothing....

                              September 30 6:43 PM Mohawk 7 0.20 TR (PWHL) 5, 6, 9 / 2, 5, 6, 7, 9 / 2, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10 $9.60
                              September 30 6:42 PM Mohawk 7 5.00 WPS 9 $15.00
                              September 30 6:42 PM Mohawk 7 0.20 SF (PWHL) 5, 6, 9 / 2, 5, 6, 9 / 2, 5, 6, 7, 9 / 2, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10 $16.20

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                              • #16
                                Re: Guess who got 4th

                                yeah 5 coming down so I get my 5 at 8-1 but lose the tri, probably a wash maybe.

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                                • #17
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                                  finally but what a donk way to get one....1/5 on top LMAO

                                  September 30 7:12 PM Mohawk 8 0.20 SF (PWHL) 3 / 1, 7, 8, 9 / 2 / 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 $5.60
                                  September 30 7:12 PM Mohawk 8 0.20 SF (PWHL) 3 / 2 / 1, 7, 8, 9 / 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 $5.60

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                                  • #18
                                    Re: Guess who got 4th

                                    here we go again....
                                    September 30 7:33 PM Mohawk 9 0.20 TR (PWHL) 8, 9 / 1, 3, 4, 8, 9 / 1, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9 $6.40
                                    September 30 7:32 PM Mohawk 9 0.20 SF (PWHL) 8, 9 / 1, 4, 8, 9 / 1, 3, 4, 8, 9 / 1, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9 $10.80
                                    no 2 in anything. That is a niuce su0per. Of course its Mohawk so having the 8 out and a bunch of 4 to one shots there doesnt mean much.

                                    yup 120 for a buck LMAO. 64 dollar exacta. Mohawk special to be sure. Even the super for 1250 for a buck is a little short with a 50-1 4th.

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                                    • #19
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                                      September 30 7:11 PM Mohawk 8 0.20 P4 (PWHL) 3 / 1, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9 / 3 / 1, 2, 4, 5, 6 $6.00
                                      just to see how I can lose this pick 4. They will invent a way to do it.

                                      the pattern has been beaten fav in Pref lose and win next time out. winner of last Pref usually no where to be found....

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                                      • #20
                                        Re: Guess who got 4th

                                        Originally posted by wantitall4moi View Post
                                        September 30 7:11 PM Mohawk 8 0.20 P4 (PWHL) 3 / 1, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9 / 3 / 1, 2, 4, 5, 6 $6.00
                                        just to see how I can lose this pick 4. They will invent a way to do it.

                                        the pattern has been beaten fav in Pref lose and win next time out. winner of last Pref usually no where to be found....
                                        off laughable fractions for this type and he fades to last LMAO.

                                        I have all of that everywhere, but its a 7 horse field and its a boat race so this super wont pay 125 for a buck.

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                                        • #21
                                          Re: Guess who got 4th

                                          September 30 7:55 PM Mohawk 10 0.20 SF (PWHL) 3, 6 / 2, 3, 4, 6 / 2, 3, 4, 6 / 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 $7.20

                                          ohh 50 bucks for 20 cents. someone screwed up.

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                                          • #22
                                            Re: Guess who got 4th

                                            Super high 5. I had to trim it down some as I dont like to go crazy with it, the 6 whom I have live in the pick 4 is more than likely going ot be the one to screw me. Because I couldnt get him any better than 3rd even in my secondary ticket.


                                            September 30 8:12 PM Mohawk 11 0.20 E5 (PWHL) 2, 4, 5 / 1, 2, 4, 5 / 1, 2, 4, 5 / 1, 2, 4, 5, 10 / 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 10 $28.80

                                            September 30 8:12 PM Mohawk 11 0.20 E5 (PWHL) 2, 4, 5 / 1, 2, 4, 5 / 1, 2, 4, 5, 6 / 1, 2, 4, 5, 6 / 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 10 $43.20

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                                            • #23
                                              Re: Guess who got 4th

                                              LMAO either or fucking 3 wins I dont have him in anything. not even the pick 4.

                                              just one of those nights at the 7./8s I cant lose. but its mohawk so these rats that dont have a shot in hell somehow always finishe the night off. Was a beaten fav last week but no way in hell he goes up in class and does that, only at Mohawk.

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                                              • #24
                                                Re: Guess who got 4th

                                                The harness fraternity seem to have a special insider race which is choreographed like a wrestling match.The heavy favorites get burned on the front end,or go uncovered a long way,maybe drivers do the rail shuffle move to nowhere,there are plenty of tricks when the boat is afloat.

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                                                • #25
                                                  Re: Guess who got 4th

                                                  Originally posted by scrimmage View Post
                                                  The harness fraternity seem to have a special insider race which is choreographed like a wrestling match.The heavy favorites get burned on the front end,or go uncovered a long way,maybe drivers do the rail shuffle move to nowhere,there are plenty of tricks when the boat is afloat.
                                                  yup I am a Mohawk 'expert' I follow that track closely. But I miss a few here and there. After I went back and looked at everything the 3 in that last race was definitely live. I just didnt think he could beat all of the others I liked. He got a very favorable trip but it wasnt really gift wrapped, although the effort wasnt there for most.

                                                  I am sure if I was really in the know and knew who couldnt pay their vet bills or had a sick wife I would understand some of the other results that dont make any sense. But as with all gambling you go by what you know.

                                                  But that track without a doubt is as set up as they come. Obviously some races have more than one 'live' one and some races have complete lay overs, and when its BIG money (these 50K purses werent shit really) then the hammer is down.

                                                  But its really the only track where you can see 20 and 40 dollar horses that they push across the wire and have a legit shot to cash in on them. Problem I have is I dont just hammer them across the board I get fancy and try to cash lottery tickets with them on top in supers (because the tries dont pay shit because thats the pool they bet into) and I generally miss 4th place. Because I hate doubling the price of the ticket pressing that ALL button. But in the long run it would more than make up for itself with the losers I should have had when one of those 20 dollar horses comes in. Plus its a challenge to try and get them on the cheap. The first and last races cost me money last night but the in between ones I did well. But race 3 was my night maker. a 40 or 60 center for 900 (less obviously if I have it a couple times) @ 20 cents is a nice score.

                                                  also race 9 with the 'short' 1250 super, all button gets me that one. But as I said above the tri pool is what they hammer and the tri in that race paid 125 for a buck. When it really should have paid twice if not 2.5 times that for a dollar.

                                                  Either way its horse racing and its a complete degenerate pass time to have but I just goof around at it anyway and I just like to make enough to keep me entertained, I just get caught up in the bullshit sometimes. Because I like the challenge and the 'winning' isnt always about the money but the ability to sniff out their bullshit.

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                                                  • #26
                                                    Re: Guess who got 4th

                                                    9 in the 8th at Mohawk for anyone interested 15-1 right now.

                                                    October 2 6:58 PM Mohawk 8 15.00 WPS 9 $45.00

                                                    not getting fancy and trying to hit any supers with him on top just taking the straight money.

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                                                    • #27
                                                      Re: Guess who got 4th

                                                      meh dead cover backed him 10 lengths off at the 3/4 pole. still got up for 4th

                                                      boat race by the looks though 2/5 off the board 7/2 over 13-1 over 49-1 this will come back less than 500 for a buck on the tri super will pay close to 2K I imagine for a buck.

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                                                      • #28
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                                                        right on tri, sick short price at 466 for a buck super was huge at almost 3500. Thats why you bet supers there because they kill the tri pool in boat races like that.

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                                                        • #29
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                                                          Theyre going to let this 5 in the 4th go off too big probably makes him live. Originally thought it was the 2 but the 5 totally getting dismissed switches it back to one of the ML favorites. Also Roger Mayotte on the 8 getting a sniff but too much more than likely.


                                                          October 3 5:34 PM Mohawk 4 5.00 WPS 5 $15.00
                                                          going small tonight since theyre freezing the Super hi 5 if its not hit this coming Sat. So Sat the 14th will be a guaranteed pay out. That is of course unless they shove something across between now and then which isnt beyond their capabilities.

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                                                          • #30
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                                                            outsmarted myself that time.

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                                                            • #31
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                                                              October 3 5:59 PM Mohawk 5 0.20 TR (PWHL) 2, 5, 8 / 2, 5, 6, 8 / 2, 4, 5, 6, 8 $5.40
                                                              supposed to have the super there....

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                                                              • #32
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                                                                yup 91 versus 766 thats why you play supers and no tris....

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                                                                • #33
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                                                                  Who are you talking to?

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                                                                  • #34
                                                                    Re: Guess who got 4th

                                                                    If you are going to play Mohawk/Woodbine than check out the track cappers opinion:
                                                                    http://www.woodbineentertainment.com...dJournals.aspx

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                                                                    • #35
                                                                      Re: Guess who got 4th

                                                                      Originally posted by scrimmage View Post
                                                                      If you are going to play Mohawk/Woodbine than check out the track cappers opinion:
                                                                      http://www.woodbineentertainment.com...dJournals.aspx
                                                                      dont need that shit.

                                                                      Mohawk is easy. You look at pick 3 and pick 4 pay outs and that will give you the winner 90% of the time. Problem is there are generally 3 or 4 that you can fit into it. Obviously the ML favs will have lower pay offs. SO you look for the 6-1 or higher ML odds and go from there. If their pay outs are seemingly 'too small' thats your first clue. Then you watch the exactas and see if theyre being used and with what horses. Then you have to figure out if theyre just live or the fix is in or both. Then you have to figure out if they can beat any other live horses in the race.

                                                                      What hurts is when they throw bombs in the middle or let something that doesnt make sense come in 4th. Thats why you see tris that are a joke and the supers that pay mid 4 figures and sometimes 5 figures. I have seen a lot of sub 1K tris (for a dollar) with supers 8K or more. I have hit a few decent ones there why do you think I keep betting them?

                                                                      Shit look at some of the races I have put up here over the past few cards and look at the pay outs. That one last night with a 450 dollar tri for a buck and a 3900 dollar super for a buck with a 4th place horse that wasnt completely out there. I had him on top.

                                                                      Like I said its the easiest track to spot the potentials its the hardest to get them in the right combination. Once in awhile they totally fool you but not very often.

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                                                                      • #36
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                                                                        5 is the live one in this race. problem is he was 9/2 when I bet him now 5/2

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                                                                        • #37
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                                                                          How you better than somebody? Cuz you said so? Naw man, don't work that way. Sun shine on everybody ass just the same. Get up off your chair and get some.

                                                                          Captain Old Earl Johnson Natchez Miss.

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                                                                          • #38
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                                                                            much the best and a 1 dollar super with the only 4 horses they were betting paid a buck 20.

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                                                                            • #39
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                                                                              one of 'those' races here. 8 is probably the best but 6 is 'odd' number and 1 took quite a bit of money.

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                                                                              • #40
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                                                                                wow no money there tonight for these gold races, only 46 in the early pick 4 it ghas a 50K guarantee so they will delay this more than they usually do. Been getting 75K on Thursdays the past few weeks.

                                                                                I ended up betting the 1. bet him at 13 he went to 12 now hes 22, just a goof play.

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