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  • #81
    Re: And so they begin...

    just go to GDAx and click the 6 hr chart and look at every coin. Then go and look at the 1 day chart and see what has happened. Then if thats not enough look at the 7 day chart.

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    • #82
      Re: And so they begin...

      LOL hows that look? And right on queue off a pretty precipitate drop some guys come back in for a little buy back. slowly it down some did it on LTC as well as BTC. But again people will do that looking for a shot. It is predictable. It will happen again the next big down turn. and will continue but when the dust settles BTC are going to be under 6000 and more than likely under 5500 and LTC will be under 50.

      You guysd would seriously do well to listen to someone that does it and actually knows what theyre talking about I know you think its a big joke but that isnt a surprise really.

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      • #83
        Re: And so they begin...

        Originally posted by wantitall4moi View Post
        But I suspect today is the day maybe tomorrow. I dont expect a complete freefall since it didnt happen yesterday but the 'step ladder' type where they drop 600-800 a day for a couple days eventually settling in at a number that people feel comfortable buying back into.
        I am not an I told you so sort of guys but just to make sure people are clear on what I have said I made that post 11-07 is now 11-10 the high price on 11-07 was 7250 and change. The high price on 11-08 was 7775 or so (so it was 'the next day') High yesterday was 7445 or so. SO 'only 300 bucks less. high today was about 7150 or so. So another 300 bucks. Right now price is 6500 and dropping (some buy backs at low prices slowing it but its dropping). Even if it stays right where it is then its in the wheel house of 600 buck per day loss. I think it goes lower. Thresh hold number for a panic is still around 6289 or so. Not sure if we see that today I dont think they let it go that far but if they do then watch out you might get an early buy back opportunity.

        Again I am just trying to help people out and keep them from going tits up. Not sure how many people have coins or even bought in but I suspect a few did and I also suspect some are still holding onto them (and thus holding their dicks in their hand right now) still a chance to salvage something and I wouldnt say sell but I do because what you get now will be more than you will get later and you will be able to (if you want) get back in then.

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        • #84
          Re: And so they begin...

          This is what I said. BCH on fire. +41% last 24 hours.

          Things are turbulent. Roger Ver (Bitcoin Jesus) is now all in on BCH thus the switch.

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          • #85
            Re: And so they begin...

            Another big jump for BCH. Up 9% last hour.

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            • #86
              Re: And so they begin...

              Originally posted by raiders72001 View Post
              This is what I said. BCH on fire. +41% last 24 hours.




              LOL keep trying. When did you buy BCH? at around 10 PM last night? At best you were in for 760 or it could have been 785 or it could have been 800. Either way it was a lot later than when I said when they were about 615 or so.

              But dont let things like that get in the way. But knowing you you shit your pants when they dropped to 770 again and you probably sold the .10 that you owned....

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              • #87
                Re: And so they begin...

                Originally posted by wantitall4moi View Post
                LOL keep trying. When did you buy BCH? at around 10 PM last night? At best you were in for 760 or it could have been 785 or it could have been 800. Either way it was a lot later than when I said when they were about 615 or so.

                But dont let things like that get in the way. But knowing you you shit your pants when they dropped to 770 again and you probably sold the .10 that you owned....
                Take a screen shot of your trades and I'll do the same. You're an air trader. Even with your air trades you never said anything about buying BCH at 615.

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                • #88
                  Re: And so they begin...

                  I'll sell all at $900 if it dumps.

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                  • #89
                    Re: And so they begin...

                    Originally posted by raiders72001 View Post
                    Take a screen shot of your trades and I'll do the same. You're an air trader. Even with your air trades you never said anything about buying BCH at 615.
                    Yup never mentioned BCH at all... I could have claimed I got in at under 600 because it was still around 597 or so when I made that post but I waited a little bit before I went in. See I dont rewrite what I do and I dont embellish I make statements then I go with them. You try and say I never make them Then I show you I did then you will say 'you think the WS is rigged and 9-11 and LV was a hoax'.




                    #7
                    11-02-2017, 06:44 PM
                    wantitall4moi
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                    Re: Bitcoin Surges After World's Biggest Exchange Announces Plans for Futures

                    Quote:
                    Originally Posted by Alas Babylon
                    I'm just amazed that Bitcoin Cash hasn't crashed down to double digits, instead up to $550.
                    thats their hedge. Theyre buying that in case BTC and B2X go sideways. Then theyre hoping BCH rises out of the ashes. Logical IMO.

                    I alluded to people looking for an alternative coin. I thought it might be something not in existence yet but BCH could be sold as the under performing alternative. Like I said they have tried it with ETH at least twice and ETH just doesnt grab people. BCH possibly could so like I said its a fair hedge. And before this little surge it was at a price that was east to swallow. Because at 320 it was lower than it has been for 90% of its whole existence so that an obvious spot to buy in. It has at least shown SOME potential to hold onto a LITTLE price after the pump and dump, and its also one that Gdax is eventually going to get in on so it makes sense.

                    Where it is now though is obviously a little riskier because at 600 Its at a price above 90% of its existence. So its flipped upside down in that respect. Basically it has been above 600 bucks for about 200 hrs of its total existence. Its been in existence roughly 2450 hours.

                    I know people will think that is stupid reasoning but it is a good gauge to look at.

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                    • #90
                      Re: And so they begin...

                      I will say this little LTC 'rally' fooled me. Up almost 4 bucks since its cellar this morning. I figured there would be some 'bargain' taking i just didnt think it would have legs like this. and its too big a move ot think its going to crush people. But if they get carried away it still might maybe thats why its come up as much as it has someone bought right and theyre looking to nail them.

                      But volumes have increased quite a bit the past 4 hrs or so, not really big but better than they were last night.

                      Immaterial. Would have been nice to have a decent order in at 56.30 right now but risk not worth it to me right now. I missed out on 12-1300 bucks but I didn thave to baby sit it and sweat it. They will get back to that price and lower before its all over. but its hard not having some coins bought watching a move like that.

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                      • #91
                        Re: And so they begin...

                        wantit- your quote is just past posts. You describe what already happened.

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                        • #92
                          Re: And so they begin...

                          Originally posted by raiders72001 View Post
                          wantit- your quote is just past posts. You describe what already happened.
                          yeah I past posted a 'buy' at a price that was already 50 bucks more than the guy I quoted and 15 bucks more than I could have claimed. Seriously? I said 600 which it was when I typed it I bought in at 615 (just a little under actually). Why would I past post a bad price? Youre just an idiot.

                          have a good weekend I am sure you will be living and dying on every single up and down on the charts.

                          I wont even look at a market this week unless I get an alert and that would take a 56 or 69 dollar LTC or a 5900 BTC. I dont care how high BTC goes I dont have any but I MIGHT buy in at 5855 depending on the way it got there. I doubt any of those things happen and I am not counting on any of those things happening. And even 56 isnt a buy its just something to watch because if it gets that low its time to watch the fall out. I probably wont buy back into LTC with any sort of seriousness until I see under 55 and more than likely a solid under 54.50. The only question with LTC is that on the 2nd there was a short reset and it got to 51.20 so that may have been the low spot for the time frame. I dont think so. I did hammer them pretty good that day as shown in the other thread. But I definitely sold too soon as they went through the roof a day or so after I cashed those ones out. As in 12 bucks more per coin than I sold at. Granted I bought some before the surge but still I lost out a little bit.

                          Have fun I am sure you will be a millionaire when I come back to the forums....

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                          • #93
                            Re: And so they begin...

                            still waiting on coinbase.... taking 2 hours now...wow

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                            • #94
                              Re: And so they begin...

                              Originally posted by MrTop View Post
                              still waiting on coinbase.... taking 2 hours now...wow
                              http://forums.eog.com/showthread.php...n-transactions

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                              • #95
                                Re: And so they begin...

                                I past posted when I said BTC would be under 5500 2 weeks ago too I guess. But it didnt quite make it I think it was 5525. But that will matter to someone like raiders.

                                I got a few but was lucky to get those but I 'overpaid' since my last orders were for 5549 and 5529. (thats past posting) I also bought at 5800 on that first down turn because I said 5855 looked like the number. But it shot right past it to 5800 and I got some on the uptick. But they got me there, as they had a short rebound then a massive dip to 5600. I waited that time as the orders were screaming crash. But it sort of stabilized over the next half hour and I did 'overpay' again for a couple when it looked like they were trying to push them back up. So my last couple orders werent as big as they should have been but I had bought back in for a decent amount already by then. I sold a couple on the first tick up to 6150 felt like a genius when they 'crashed' again, but then saw them go up to 6250 on the next surge and didnt feel so smart but it was only a couple hundred bucks so I could live with it. I sold 2 more for 6449 as that looked like the number but they blew to 6470 and then had their down turn. I went to bed an hour later as they were getting back into the 6000 range because I wasnt buying anymore and I surely wasnt selling. Price hit almost 6500 while I was asleep and its come back down now.

                                I still dont think that 5500 it hit last night is the low point. That tells me my 5100 might actually be too high. Still a couple more days to go before we see the absolute cellar. They got a few people last night with that little dip and I think they want people to think that was the mid month swoon that always happens. I dont think so.

                                So even though I said I was out this weekend they pulled me back in with their BTC games. But only for 2 or 3 hours. Gonna go back to bed and see if they rebound. Unlikely they might since a lot of coins were bought in that mid range of 5800-6200 There were even a lot bought in the lows 6300 to about 6360 while was sleeping. So they might surge in one more time before they bring it back again. But probably not today as the volumes since then have gone to shit. SO guys got in and are waiting.

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                                • #96
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                                  Oh and if you really want to see raiders head explode (I wasnt going to put this on the forums but I like watching him freak out) I bought back into BCH yesterday too and sold out right before I went to bed. I didnt get the massive price but it was good enough.

                                  I also just bought back in (thats why I am up right now) since it dopped below 1300 (it got to 1215 or so) but I didnt get on in time to get the low.

                                  So all kinds of past posting air trades for raiders to freak out about.

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                                  • #97
                                    Re: And so they begin...

                                    what number you eyeing to buy LTC at now?

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                                    • #98
                                      Re: And so they begin...

                                      Originally posted by focker View Post
                                      what number you eyeing to buy LTC at now?
                                      tomorrow night around this time will be a reset they look to start dumping not sure what the price gets to I suspect at least to the 57s. But it might take them a few hours maybe even til 3 or 4 Am west coast time to see the final dip. or it could take them awhile. The price isnt that hard to predict its the timing and sometimes you get the price at the 'right' time and it keeps going. Or it comes back.

                                      They have been holding them up all day long so they can get what theyre getting now out of them. Maybe thinking the reset might not be so bad. Its still a guestimate and it can still change but what I see is a pretty decent drop.

                                      Most guys are in for the price they are now they were buying in the 61-63 range when the volumes were much higher than they are now. So they feel 'comfortable' right now. But as I have said before they dont mind sitting on coins they paid 'too much' for when there is another surge coming. But with no fork and no major rumors coming I dont expect a surge. 65 is a 'fair' price right now if it gets to it I will probably sell a few. Looking to see the 57s sometime Tomorrow or Thursday.

                                      If the reset isnt that bad then things might steady off but that will also mean the next reset should be lower than the 57 I think this next one should get to. In other words if they drop to 'only' 60 tomorrow night or Friday Morning then the next dip should be closer to 55.

                                      I havent run the numbers for a 'modest' dip yet because the numbers have remained constant the past 30 hours or so.

                                      Now after all that there is a tiny scenario where the price actually jumps to 68 or maybe 69. but ti would take some influence to make that happen but it wouldnt be unheard of. Basically its when they pull a fast one and instead of dropping 6-8 bucks (10-12%) like it 'should' it actually goes up 5-6 bucks(8-10%). It has actually done that twice under similar circumstances out of the last 15 or so times.

                                      But if it does that it will definitely dip slightly but if there are a bunch of buy orders lined up it would be worth it to pay attention and maybe buy in the 62s. But for generic purposes I wont be buying until I see prices in the 50s. But I am on a major free roll and have racked up some nice profits the past couple days I jumped around so I am not feeling greedy.

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                                      • #99
                                        Re: And so they begin...

                                        been out and about most of the day and LTC have gone haywire the past couple hours I sold a bunch but before I saw something I couldnt see. Now that I am home I do, I wouldnt sell just yet. Its a small gamble but there is still a window of a couple hours or so before the rest. And even that might not collapse it all that much. It will definitely come down but maybe not immediately.

                                        I am thinking we can eek a little above 73 out of this before its over. But its a definite babysitting job and we might see some deep drops here and there. it did just push back to 7150 for a flash and is now dipping back. But the closer it gets the more extreme it will get as people do what they can to sell and also buy off the guys selling.

                                        I also know the volume is through the roof and they just had a few massive buys for over 70 bucks. Almost 2K were bought up for over 71.30. And a couple hours ago when it first took off there were HUGE buy orders for 70.50 plus and those havent sold yet. So if they want to eject immediately 73 might actually be a cheap price.

                                        I said it last night the last couple times I saw numbers like this it did in fact go through the roof before an eventual free fall. Looks like its the pattern now. I wish I hadnt sold right now actually. Even though the price is lower than I sold at the potential for it to go way up is there. I am tempted to dip back in for a few coins but thats still a gamble. Even if they dip to 67 or so (they have already gone to 68.5) its 450 a coin. But risking a potential disaster for 1400-1500 hundred is probably not worth it. Have to eat it if they do go completely crazy then tally what I 'could' have made versus what I did make. I generally dont do that but sometimes I do.

                                        Or they could go right into the tank and then no harm no foul. I am not nearly as accurate when I second guess myself as I am when I set the prices based on what I know. But when people are hammering buys at those prices you have to take notice and know that eventually theyre going to sell those coins and the guys making buys like that dont sell for a loss.

                                        I am also contending with what to do with my BTC I haventt sold yet. I was lucky I wanst home because I would have probably sold at 7880 earlier today.

                                        So one coins 'loss' (even though it hasnt happened yet) is another gain. (If I sell).

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                                        • Re: And so they begin...

                                          well second guessing cost me (again) looks like the dip is on the reset is going ot happen in an hour or so, it may stabilize after and go up but if the numbers hold true it looks like a major dip. Add that to the announcement of the B2X fork going through (I said it would) and I suspect a lot of currencies to take big dips as people try again with a new fork.

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                                          • Re: And so they begin...

                                            reset in about 30 minutes going to be very interesting to see what happens. Volumes have gone extinct so probably not much but a couple heavy hitters could manipulate it with not much effort.

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                                            • Re: And so they begin...

                                              Crazy moves o going on the past 30 minutes or so. A lot of orders lined up on the line which is sitting at 71.93/94 The more people sell the more people line up buy orders. To do that that tells me a major push is on. I put in a couple orders then took them down. I still have 1000 coins and a little bit so if they go through the roof I will be dumping down to maybe 400 or so coins left. But they would have to get to 90 which is along ways away before I sold too many of my reserves.

                                              Just sold over 4K and shot up to 72.00 not sure where its going but I am going ot have to pay attention.

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                                              • Re: And so they begin...

                                                Originally posted by wantitall4moi View Post
                                                Crazy moves o going on the past 30 minutes or so. A lot of orders lined up on the line which is sitting at 71.93/94 The more people sell the more people line up buy orders. To do that that tells me a major push is on. I put in a couple orders then took them down. I still have 1000 coins and a little bit so if they go through the roof I will be dumping down to maybe 400 or so coins left. But they would have to get to 90 which is along ways away before I sold too many of my reserves.

                                                Just sold over 4K and shot up to 72.00 not sure where its going but I am going ot have to pay attention.
                                                I just sold mine this morning thinking 71.50ish would be the high......oh well

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                                                • Re: And so they begin...

                                                  Originally posted by focker View Post
                                                  I just sold mine this morning thinking 71.50ish would be the high......oh well
                                                  yeah its on the collapse now they sucked a few people I had a sell at 73.11 ( I think thats why it leveled off for a bit I sold 150 in smallish blocks) and 73.22 (150 in same types of blocks) and they got higher but crashing now.

                                                  They had 3 major league blocks sold and then it was a complete freefall. Slowed down and stabilized now at 72.23 so it MIGHT actually climb back up again but I am not messing around. I will take what I get and when it goes down again like it always does I will start over.

                                                  Already back up to 72.56 again. Definitely something going on. Npw back down to 72.30s.

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                                                  • Re: And so they begin...

                                                    Looks like the buyers got out now so we will see what happens. A lot of sellers right now all lined up but those bigger buy blocks all gone but one and that one has been split up. Still holding their won but I think people trading back and forth to get a little bit more out before the next crash that sends it spiraling down.

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                                                    • Re: And so they begin...

                                                      as long as they can keep it above 71.45 I dont see a major collapse if they cant (theyre trying) then they probably let it fall and come back in once they can control it better.

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                                                      • Re: And so they begin...

                                                        http://oracletimes.com/the-web-bot-l...d-be-watching/

                                                        that might have something to do with it, but they have always laughed at that guy before.

                                                        Regardless the price will tank before it goes crazy, they always do.

                                                        You might see another 2 weeks of these elevated prices (above 60.00) Then I suspect they will do what they did after that Sept rush, go right back to rock bottom. They have already been consistently above 60 (and 65 mostly) for 7 days now. I suspect a big quick uptick (bigger than we just saw actually) in a day or two then the downward trend.

                                                        If I was a gambler I would buy in right now as I think high 70s... 78 or 79 (dont think they allow 80 for psychological reasons) are possible but I also think they will dip back into the 60s before that happens if it does.

                                                        It just got below 71.42 so we will see I might be a buyer here if I see what I want. Which is really 70.90 because once it get below that we will definitely see some downward slopes. Then youre looking at prices of between 64.60 and 66.80 I know thats a big widnow but its a short term look.

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                                                        • Re: And so they begin...

                                                          trheyre serious now about keeping it about 70.25 they loaded 10K worth of orders on it they lost over a thousand but it has slid up to 70.28.

                                                          They know that threshhold number has to be held. I think someone got caught and is looking for a small surge to get out of it and once they do it will be a free fall.

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                                                          • Re: And so they begin...

                                                            Originally posted by wantitall4moi View Post
                                                            I think someone got caught and is looking for a small surge to get out of it and once they do it will be a free fall.

                                                            yeah I just looked someone had a huge buy order filled for 70.85. By a miracle its going back up will be intersting ot see what happens when it hits that number, do they eject or do they push their luck and try to make some money.

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                                                            • Re: And so they begin...

                                                              rarity right now 33K sell orders in the zone versus 10K buy orders yet price going up and up. 73.80 looks to be the target price if it gets that high then theyll push it to over 75.

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                                                              • Re: And so they begin...

                                                                serious push right now. 2500 on the line @ 72.58 but big sell orders coming in to stop it. Weird goings on right now a big group wants to buy and another group is selling. All on the line no one is setting up flash orders.

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                                                                • Re: And so they begin...

                                                                  I expect to see a massive free fall here in about 6 o r 7 hours as there have been thousands upon thousands of micro orders (.006888 type buys today) the rest is going to be around midnight and it should drop the price anyway and if they flood the transactions with all those micro buys it will test the system (akin to whatthey did with BTC) so once miners leave the pool and more orders hit you will see a slow down of everything. While it isnt as big a deal with LTC like it is with BTC it will effect it. I think this last push (the double peak) is their last gasp effort before they start their sell off. With so many people lined up to sell I doubt they hit 7500 but I think some buyers figure they can push it up there, but with over 33K coins to buy up before they even reach 74 its highly unlikely.

                                                                  But the sell orders were either all bought up or they moved and it just blew past it. Might get interesting now.

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                                                                  • Re: And so they begin...

                                                                    LOL 10K sell orders on 73.00 I dont think it even gets there there are over 9 k between where it is now and that price. Of course some of these will be moved but I thin people are looking to eject right now.

                                                                    I will probably sell another 100 or 150 myself and hope the freefall happens.

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                                                                    • Re: And so they begin...

                                                                      yeah line in the sand @ 72.735

                                                                      iits on the verge of crashing but they havent sold what they wanted to so they prob keep it propped up I have some on the line but not filled yet....

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                                                                      • Re: And so they begin...

                                                                        about ot see 72.15 or so on a flash crash....

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                                                                        • Re: And so they begin...

                                                                          They have tried their best for the past 4 days to push LTC to 75 (before the inevitable crash) but they just cant do it. I think they make one more serious effort tonight (on smaller volumes) and try and eat away at the 38K or so coins between where we are now (72.30) and 74.99. If they do do that then that changes the whole landscape going forwards because theyre going to have to BUY those coins at that number theyre trying to reach. So common sense would say if they get 75 then they 'need' 76 (to make some profits) or they hoard those coins for a later push. Which they have done in the past but not at these prices.

                                                                          I have basically been waiting and watching I havent done a whole lot I did dip in for too much the other night and sold them for 40 cents profit a coin (less than they are now) But only because I have been seeing what they have been trying to do.

                                                                          They really wanted a repeat of Sept when they shot through 90 like a rocket but too many people lined up against them I guess. But with every other crypto taking off LTC really should have seen 80 at some point, it hasnt even gotten to 74. So there is a definite force keeping it low. (for whatever reason).

                                                                          Even now when it looks like a push is on more and more coins for sale show up on the line. If those coins moved price would jump 40-50 cents. Which makes the most sense for everyone. But people just keep loading them on the line. There are now over 5000 to buy at 72.29 and they have sat there for 10 minutes with more and more showing up for sale at 72.30. If that sale price was sold out the price would hit 72.50 instantly. Then since there isnt much stopping it it would be into the 73.50 range in very short order (like 1-2 minutes) then it starts to get semi serious.

                                                                          Its the same thing that happened a couple weeks ago when they held the price down.

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                                                                          • Re: And so they begin...

                                                                            OK they finally got through that one now if they can get past 72.55 and hold it steady and increase we might see soemthing.

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                                                                            • Re: And so they begin...

                                                                              meh now I see they moved all those off the 73.50 line and moved them into the 72.90s to 73.00 now there are over 10K between where we are now and 73.00.

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                                                                              • Re: And so they begin...

                                                                                when it dipped to 68.22 the other night I went all in. Just sold them all for 72.50.....figured that was the high of the day and I would buy on the dip again

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                                                                                • Re: And so they begin...

                                                                                  a couple things in 'real time'. Price got to 72.72 and stayed there a minute it has since seen a small sell off back to 72.60 but oon the tiniest of volumes, so not a 'we hit our price and we dumped at multiple prices' sort of 'crash. That is a major positive. Because theyre still looking to push this number up over th enext little bit. By keeping volumes small.

                                                                                  Sop thats the catch 22 they have to eat through over 11K coins to reach 73.00 And then 7500 AT 73.00 and another 20K to reach 74.00 and then around 10K @ 74. (which will obviously change. Its definitely possible especially now with the Asians coming around but when they do the volumes are going to spike and spike hard. Last time they did this was a couple nights ago and it went from nominal volumes like we see now and a semi push in the 63s to a massive spike in volume and ap rice spike of 70.54, a small sell off (small volume) then another major buy that drove it to 71.00 They held those coins, and still hold most of them. They did sell off maybe 40-50% of them a couple nights ago when they pushed the price to 73 and change and there were massive sell offs that dropped the price to 68.00.

                                                                                  I think we might be seeing a mirror of that right now. And the time table is sort of short, if it doesnt take right off (with increased volumes) then it probably wont happen. I figure it will start within an hour or so.

                                                                                  Since I started typing its inched down to 72.46 but not low enough to reach a thresh hol dnumber.

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