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  • If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

    Alabama would be a lock, obviously, but then you have a situation where you'll be looking at either a 1 loss Georgia or a 2 loss Auburn winning the SEC... the problem is, the 2 loss Auburn would have wins over Alabama, Georgia, Miss State by 39, and Georgia again in Atlanta. I don't know how you tell a team that accomplished they lose out to Miami with 1 loss or Clemson with 2 losses.

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    Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

    Originally posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
    Alabama would be a lock, obviously, but then you have a situation where you'll be looking at either a 1 loss Georgia or a 2 loss Auburn winning the SEC... the problem is, the 2 loss Auburn would have wins over Alabama, Georgia, Miss State by 39, and Georgia again in Atlanta. I don't know how you tell a team that accomplished they lose out to Miami with 1 loss or Clemson with 2 losses.

    The real scramble will begin if Oklahoma loses in the Big 12 title game. Then you will have the PAC and Big 12 probably out and open the door for maybe a 2 loss Ohio St team if they beat Wisconsin. I can see 2 SEC teams in, but not 2 ACC teams.

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    • #3
      Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

      I pay attention to the first CFP poll and the last CFP poll.

      The five polls in between carry little significance.

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        Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

        Originally posted by John Kelly View Post
        I pay attention to the first CFP poll and the last CFP poll.

        The five polls in between carry little significance.
        Too many people do follow these polls, use them to your benefit. All you hear is teams who must win or need style points to move up. A lot of this is in the line, but people bet them up more. Also fade the teams that are basically eliminated. navy and over will be a big play next week for me at ND. Fading TCU also depending on number.
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          Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

          An undefeated Wisconsin team is getting in. That is a fuckin lock
          "Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie, but we gotta fight"
          -Slim Charles (also the new motto of pregame.com)

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            Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

            Originally posted by FairWarning View Post
            Too many people do follow these polls, use them to your benefit. All you hear is teams who must win or need style points to move up. A lot of this is in the line, but people bet them up more. Also fade the teams that are basically eliminated. navy and over will be a big play next week for me at ND. Fading TCU also depending on number.
            Not sure about fading teams who are basically eliminated. That is about the coach and how good of a coach he is. Look at Ohio State yesterday
            "Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie, but we gotta fight"
            -Slim Charles (also the new motto of pregame.com)

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              Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

              Originally posted by Inkwell77 View Post
              An undefeated Wisconsin team is getting in. That is a fuckin lock
              Not if Auburn or Georgia, the ACC champ, and OU win out. Bama doesn’t have to.
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                Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

                Originally posted by Inkwell77 View Post
                Not sure about fading teams who are basically eliminated. That is about the coach and how good of a coach he is. Look at Ohio State yesterday
                Obviously played a great game yesterday. I don’t expect it with ND, especially when they can’t play in a conference championship game. It could be a ugly hangover for the Irish.
                Michael Jordan isn't anywhere near as athletic as lebron James. Jordan wouldn't even be a top 20 athlete in the game right now in his prime. - Cleveland Homer Big Deemer
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                  Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

                  Originally posted by Inkwell77 View Post
                  An undefeated Wisconsin team is getting in. That is a fuckin lock
                  You are correct

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                  • #10
                    Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

                    Originally posted by Heisenberg View Post
                    You are correct
                    Undefeated Alabama > undefeated Wisconsin
                    1 loss Alabama > undefeated Wisconsin
                    1 loss Georgia > undefeated Wisconsin
                    1 loss Clemson > undefeated Wisconsin
                    1 loss Oklahoma > undefeated Wisconsin

                    So no, it's not a lock. If Alabama loses to Auburn and Georgia beats Auburn in the SEC title game and Clemson and Oklahoma win out, Wisconsin is guaranteed to be out.

                    If you think Wisconsin gets in over 1 loss Georgia, I'd like to book your action on this scenario.

                    Alabama's biggest fans are Wisconsin right now... Alabama losing to Auburn or Georgia fucks them.

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                      Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

                      Originally posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
                      Undefeated Alabama > undefeated Wisconsin
                      1 loss Alabama > undefeated Wisconsin
                      1 loss Georgia > undefeated Wisconsin
                      1 loss Clemson > undefeated Wisconsin
                      1 loss Oklahoma > undefeated Wisconsin

                      So no, it's not a lock. If Alabama loses to Auburn and Georgia beats Auburn in the SEC title game and Clemson and Oklahoma win out, Wisconsin is guaranteed to be out.

                      If you think Wisconsin gets in over 1 loss Georgia, I'd like to book your action on this scenario.

                      Alabama's biggest fans are Wisconsin right now... Alabama losing to Auburn or Georgia fucks them.
                      ok where do we post up? if both get in under those conditions no aciton seed location does not matter and if dont make it in that scenerio, which granted is impossible no action .

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                      • #12
                        Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

                        If Wisky wins out they're in the playoff, end of story

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                        • #13
                          Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

                          wrong, not surprising from you

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                          • #14
                            Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

                            Wisconsin is in the tournament now. They will not be lowered if they win out.
                            The real women sport expert

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                              Wisconson will get in if they win out, solely on their travel party which is all the final 4 committee cares about

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                                Wisconson and Miami appear to be the 2 best teams.

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                                  Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

                                  will a zero loss Miami get in?

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                                    Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

                                    Originally posted by railbird View Post
                                    will a zero loss Miami get in?
                                    A zero loss Miami team with wins over Clemson and ND is not only in but probably a #2 seed.

                                    A zero loss Wisconsin team should be in as well but better hope their competition isn’t a 1 loss Alabama team.

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                                      Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

                                      Won't matter, Wisconsin loses to either Mich or Ohio St or both... If Bama loses to Auburn, the SEC will get 2 teams in...

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                                        Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

                                        Originally posted by railbird View Post
                                        will a zero loss Miami get in?
                                        You're joking right? Yes, an unbeaten Miami team will be in the playoffs
                                        All great genius encounters violent opposition from mediocre minds

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                                          Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

                                          Agree they should be in, but dont be surprised if they get sc

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                                          • #22
                                            Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

                                            Screwed because they dont travel well

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                                            • #23
                                              Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

                                              Originally posted by John Kelly View Post
                                              I pay attention to the first CFP poll and the last CFP poll.

                                              The five polls in between carry little significance.
                                              Only four polls between the first and last polls.

                                              ComptrBob is slipping.

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                                                Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

                                                I can see miami losing to pitt and then beat overrated clemson, acc out in cold. Notredame will lose to stanford to take some shine off that win

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                                                  Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

                                                  Originally posted by railbird View Post
                                                  Screwed because they dont travel well
                                                  Miami is ranked second in the country behind Alabama, if they win out there's zero chance they're left out, and I don't care how they travel
                                                  All great genius encounters violent opposition from mediocre minds

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                                                    Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

                                                    Originally posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
                                                    Alabama would be a lock, obviously, but then you have a situation where you'll be looking at either a 1 loss Georgia or a 2 loss Auburn winning the SEC... the problem is, the 2 loss Auburn would have wins over Alabama, Georgia, Miss State by 39, and Georgia again in Atlanta. I don't know how you tell a team that accomplished they lose out to Miami with 1 loss or Clemson with 2 losses.
                                                    Your first assumption, that Alabama would be a lock, is the incorrect one that sends this bad take down the wrong path from the beginning.

                                                    Alabama was 2nd, not 1st, in the first two iterations of the CFP rankings. The committee is not so enamored with Alabama that it could survive a loss and no conference title.

                                                    As it stands, Alabama has 2 top-25 wins--LSU and Mississippi State. In your scenario, Alabama would end its season with a loss and have a pretty ugly looking resume. Its non-conference schedule is Downy soft.

                                                    There is absolutely no evidence to back up the idea that an 11-1 Alabama team with only mediocre wins at Miss St. and vs. LSU would get into the playoff over anyone.

                                                    In your scenario, the most likely outcome would be:

                                                    1) Clemson/Miami winner
                                                    2) Oklahoma (assuming it wins out)
                                                    3) Auburn/UGA winner
                                                    4) Big Ten Champion (assuming OSU/Wisconsin)

                                                    Alabama is not in the position that Ohio State was in last year. Ohio State last year had road wins over *very good* Oklahoma (by three touchdowns) and Wisconsin teams, and an elite home win over Michigan. Those three trump anything Alabama has done this year, and they had three of them.

                                                    Alabama being slotted at #2 behind Georgia tells you everything you need to know about Alabama's chances to get in at 11-1.

                                                    The SEC could get two teams in the playoffs if Alabama beats Auburn and then loses to Georgia. Auburn's road win at Auburn in that scenario would be significant.

                                                    You seem to have bad ideas on this topic.

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                                                      Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

                                                      The idea that Alabama at 11-1 with a loss to Auburn would get in over 13-0 Wisconsin is funny on its face.

                                                      As a conference champion, and with a crowning win over Ohio State in the championship game, Wisconsin would have a better win than Alabama, no losses, and the championship in its back pocket.

                                                      Wisconsin's collection of wins over Ohio State, Iowa, Michigan, and Northwestern would trump Alabama's collection of wins over ... LSU and Mississippi State.

                                                      Your mistake is in believing that the college football playoff committee overrates Alabama as much as you do.

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                                                        Trytrytry is trying to bet. I would also like to bet anyone who does not think an undefeated Wisconsin gets in. If people are trying to give away money....
                                                        "Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie, but we gotta fight"
                                                        -Slim Charles (also the new motto of pregame.com)

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                                                        • #29
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                                                          It would have been interesting to see what would have happened to Wisconsin if Notre Dame and Georgia had won last Saturday.

                                                          So hard to exclude from the College Football Playoff an undefeated champ from a Power 5 conference.

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                                                          • #30
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                                                            If Alabama has one loss and doesn't play in the college football playoffs, it will be a sham and most people will say so.

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                                                            • #31
                                                              Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

                                                              It will not happen unless there are 5 undefeated conference champs (or 4 undefeated + a Notre Dame or BYU)
                                                              "Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie, but we gotta fight"
                                                              -Slim Charles (also the new motto of pregame.com)

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                                                                Georgia was their clear number 1 and lost by how many points at Auburn? The at Auburn game is 100x harder than any game on Wisconsin's schedule, so if you're going to reward Wisconsin for not playing a tough game like that, that's pretty silly.

                                                                If Alabama picks up that win, which is a huge, huge, huge win, and then loses to Georgia, again, I'm not sure how you leave Alabama out, or Georgia out in that scenario.

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                                                                • #33
                                                                  Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

                                                                  A little off topic, but Petros and Money had Slick Rick Neuhisal on yesterday. Rick is doing a lot of SEC games this year for Fox. When asked if he thought the SEC was that awesome, his answer was very interesting. He said the only difference among major conferences was the SECs ability to keep the behemoth southern bred defensive lineman home. Alabama,Auburn type DL depth wears you down. You can escape it for a long time but NOT four quarters. Makes sense. Used to work with corn fed farm boys at Nebraska but socio-economic forces ruined that. What makes those SEC home growns so damn big?? Grits,? school lunches?

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                                                                  • #34
                                                                    Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

                                                                    In Gus you should trust.

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                                                                      So if wisconsin gets in by basically having a regular season schedule playing no unranked teams except one, a barely top 20 ranked team like michigan at Wisconsin.

                                                                      Why should teams like clemson schedule a game like auburn at start of the season, they know they have a tough acc schedule.

                                                                      Clemson will have played two top 10 ranked tams by end of the season, auburn and miami, another rnaked team at nc state, usually tough teams like florida,virginia tech,georgia tech south carolina

                                                                      Oklahoma will have played 3 top 10 teams ( ohio state,tcu,oklahoma state) and overall 4 ranked teams.

                                                                      Wisconsin started the year off by playing florida Atlantic the same week when clemson is playing auburn! If Wisconsin maked it with this shit schedule , than other teams should pad their non conference schedule. The wisconsin schedule is a joke

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                                                                      • #36
                                                                        Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

                                                                        Originally posted by common guy View Post
                                                                        A little off topic, but Petros and Money had Slick Rick Neuhisal on yesterday. Rick is doing a lot of SEC games this year for Fox. When asked if he thought the SEC was that awesome, his answer was very interesting. He said the only difference among major conferences was the SECs ability to keep the behemoth southern bred defensive lineman home. Alabama,Auburn type DL depth wears you down. You can escape it for a long time but NOT four quarters. Makes sense. Used to work with corn fed farm boys at Nebraska but socio-economic forces ruined that. What makes those SEC home growns so damn big?? Grits,? school lunches?
                                                                        big boned moms, less likely to leave the region. skinny moms are whisked away out of the area.

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                                                                        • #37
                                                                          Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

                                                                          Originally posted by common guy View Post
                                                                          A little off topic, but Petros and Money had Slick Rick Neuhisal on yesterday. Rick is doing a lot of SEC games this year for Fox. When asked if he thought the SEC was that awesome, his answer was very interesting. He said the only difference among major conferences was the SECs ability to keep the behemoth southern bred defensive lineman home. Alabama,Auburn type DL depth wears you down. You can escape it for a long time but NOT four quarters. Makes sense. Used to work with corn fed farm boys at Nebraska but socio-economic forces ruined that. What makes those SEC home growns so damn big?? Grits,? school lunches?
                                                                          Its a rural culture , a more masculinist culture too in the rural area than the urban feminist culture in the cities and suburbs . The osuth is the largest region by far for miltary service

                                                                          http://www.ozy.com/acumen/why-the-us...southern/72100

                                                                          I think high school football culture is huge down there too, friday night lights culture. Its funny how its the same teams though the years, even when it was all white football in 1950s. The one that stands out to me is how good minnesota did in college football , they have 7 championships even up to 1960

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                                                                          • #38
                                                                            Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

                                                                            Auburn is at 6.

                                                                            Wisconsin is at 5.

                                                                            People are very confident that Auburn won't jump Wisconsin even if they beat #1 and #7 in their last 2 games.

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                                                                            • #39
                                                                              Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

                                                                              Originally posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
                                                                              Auburn is at 6.

                                                                              Wisconsin is at 5.

                                                                              People are very confident that Auburn won't jump Wisconsin even if they beat #1 and #7 in their last 2 games.
                                                                              If Auburn wins out they may get in, but it won't be at the expense of an undefeated Wisconsin. If Wisconsin finishes 12-0 after beating Michigan and top 10 Ohio State, they will 100% be in the playoff.

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                                                                                Re: If Alabama loses at Auburn... then the SEC gets 2 teams in the playoffs

                                                                                The idea that an undefeated Wisconsin would be left out for a 2 loss Auburn team is the height of delusion. If Auburn gets in, it's at the expense of an SEC team or maybe Oklahoma. I see it shaking down like this:

                                                                                1 or 2 of Alabama, Georgia, Auburn
                                                                                Clemson OR Miami (whichever is the winner of ACC title game)
                                                                                Wisconsin (win out) OR Ohio State (if they win out and other games break their way)
                                                                                Oklahoma (assuming win out)

                                                                                If Oklahoma wins out, they are IN. Clemson or Miami is IN. The only way the SEC gets two teams is if Wisconsin and Ohio State both fail to win out. Then it would be:

                                                                                Clemson/Miami
                                                                                Oklahoma
                                                                                Alabama/Auburn/Georgia

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