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    The 2018 NIT will feature four rules modifications:


    The three-point line will be extended by approximately 1 foot 8 inches to the same distance used by FIBA for international competition (22 feet 1.75 inches).

    The free throw lane will be widened from 12 feet to 16 feet, consistent with the width used by the NBA.

    The games will be divided into four 10-minute quarters as opposed to two 20-minute halves. Teams will shoot two free throws beginning with the fifth foul of each quarter.

    • The shot clock will reset to 20 seconds after an offensive rebound instead of the full 30 second


    Source: NCAA.com

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    Love the four 10-minute quarters.

    Adds an additional layer or two of strategy.

    Should favor teams with heady point guards and coaches who understand how to play the clock.

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    • #3
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      will have 3 iso bad shots instead of 1 with the qtrs

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      • #4
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        Originally posted by railbird View Post
        will have 3 iso bad shots instead of 1 with the qtrs

        Love seeing the possible 2-for-1 strategy in college hoops.

        It's one of my favorite areas to watch in the NBA.

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        • #5
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          my favorite time in college basketball was lets see if the team can run 4 corners for 90 seconds without turning it over, that's when college hoop had peak popularity

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          • #6
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            Originally posted by railbird View Post
            my favorite time in college basketball was lets see if the team can run 4 corners for 90 seconds without turning it over, that's when college hoop had peak popularity
            It wasn’t popular because of the four corners. It was popular because players stayed 3-4 years.
            Michael Jordan isn't anywhere near as athletic as lebron James. Jordan wouldn't even be a top 20 athlete in the game right now in his prime. - Cleveland Homer Big Deemer
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            • #7
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              When Dean Smith was running four corners, it was a joke. He had more talent than everyone west of UCLA in the 70’s.
              Michael Jordan isn't anywhere near as athletic as lebron James. Jordan wouldn't even be a top 20 athlete in the game right now in his prime. - Cleveland Homer Big Deemer
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              • #8
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                How did they make college hoop totals with no shot clock?

                Or did they?

                I'm guessing totals were not popular until the shot clock debuted.

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                • #9
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                  Originally posted by John Kelly View Post
                  How did they make college hoop totals with no shot clock?

                  Or did they?

                  I'm guessing totals were not popular until the shot clock debuted.
                  Maybe they just had totals for the TV games. Can’t remember if there were totals then.
                  Michael Jordan isn't anywhere near as athletic as lebron James. Jordan wouldn't even be a top 20 athlete in the game right now in his prime. - Cleveland Homer Big Deemer
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                  • #10
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                    Final score from the 1973 college basketball season: Tennessee 11 Temple 6.

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                    • #11
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                      The NCAA introduced a 45-second shot clock for the men's game in the 1985–86 season, reducing it to 35 seconds in the 1993–94 season and 30 seconds in the 2015–16 season.


                      Source: Wikipedia

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                      • #12
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                        Now eliminate the one-and done rule. that will rid the sport of the AAU scumbags and most of the corruption.
                        Michael Jordan isn't anywhere near as athletic as lebron James. Jordan wouldn't even be a top 20 athlete in the game right now in his prime. - Cleveland Homer Big Deemer
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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by FairWarning View Post
                          Now eliminate the one-and done rule. that will rid the sport of the AAU scumbags and most of the corruption.
                          aau isn't a problem. there is only about ten 1 and dones, eliminate 3 point line that would make for a better game. most teams do have 4 year players

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                          • #14
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                            Originally posted by railbird View Post
                            aau isn't a problem. there is only about ten 1 and dones, eliminate 3 point line that would make for a better game. most teams do have 4 year players
                            Yet all of thr problems are with the players who have no intention of staying. If they don’t want to be there,let them go pro. How is a year of college going to help LeBrons kid when he reaches that age?
                            Michael Jordan isn't anywhere near as athletic as lebron James. Jordan wouldn't even be a top 20 athlete in the game right now in his prime. - Cleveland Homer Big Deemer
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                            • #15
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                              Originally posted by John Kelly View Post
                              Final score from the 1973 college basketball season: Tennessee 11 Temple 6.
                              This years Pittsburgh team would have had a chance to get shut out in 1973
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                              • #16
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                                I remember when they played with peach baskets & 3 to make 2 FT's you youngbloods.

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                                • #17
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                                  Originally posted by FairWarning View Post
                                  Yet all of thr problems are with the players who have no intention of staying. If they don’t want to be there,let them go pro. How is a year of college going to help LeBrons kid when he reaches that age?
                                  I think it is all about when the player is ready to move up in maturity level. Let's not forget that kids in college play pickup games all fall before the season. The biggest thing college does for the player is it gives the player a year to mature emotionally - 1st year on their own - so to speak - in a softer environment than what pro basketball players exist in. Players kind of get one shot at the pros in many cases and if they are not ready - it is really hard to battle back into the picture.

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                                  • #18
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                                    Originally posted by Bucky View Post
                                    I think it is all about when the player is ready to move up in maturity level. Let's not forget that kids in college play pickup games all fall before the season. The biggest thing college does for the player is it gives the player a year to mature emotionally - 1st year on their own - so to speak - in a softer environment than what pro basketball players exist in. Players kind of get one shot at the pros in many cases and if they are not ready - it is really hard to battle back into the picture.
                                    The only reason a kid is leaving after his freshman year is because he has to go for a year. Make a rule that if you commit to college, you have to stay for 2 years. Baseball can draft players out of HS and use college as leverage, let the hoops players. Why have a kid for a year? - all he is doing is working on his pro prospects. That may or may not make your program better. At least if the kid is there two years, you can build a program.
                                    Michael Jordan isn't anywhere near as athletic as lebron James. Jordan wouldn't even be a top 20 athlete in the game right now in his prime. - Cleveland Homer Big Deemer
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                                    • #19
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                                      Originally posted by FairWarning View Post
                                      When Dean Smith was running four corners, it was a joke. He had more talent than everyone west of UCLA in the 70’s.
                                      I remember the old joke, best defense against Michael Jordan was Dean Smith's offense. On another note color guy for Vegas game Dan Dickau (remember him) agreed with the new experimental rules plus wants 24 seconds included.
                                      The art of learning is learning who to ignore ~LeAnn Rimes

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                                      • #20
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                                        Originally posted by Bucky View Post
                                        I think it is all about when the player is ready to move up in maturity level. Let's not forget that kids in college play pickup games all fall before the season. The biggest thing college does for the player is it gives the player a year to mature emotionally - 1st year on their own - so to speak - in a softer environment than what pro basketball players exist in. Players kind of get one shot at the pros in many cases and if they are not ready - it is really hard to battle back into the picture.
                                        LeBron was ready.

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                                        • #21
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                                          Originally posted by Heim View Post
                                          I remember the old joke, best defense against Michael Jordan was Dean Smith's offense. On another note color guy for Vegas game Dan Dickau (remember him) agreed with the new experimental rules plus wants 24 seconds included.
                                          Another variation of the same joke.

                                          Who's the only guy who could keep Jordan under 20 points a game? Dean Smith
                                          Clowns make me laugh! :+textinb3

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                                          • #22
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                                            Originally posted by John Kelly View Post
                                            The 2018 NIT will feature four rules modifications:


                                            The three-point line will be extended by approximately 1 foot 8 inches to the same distance used by FIBA for international competition (22 feet 1.75 inches).

                                            The free throw lane will be widened from 12 feet to 16 feet, consistent with the width used by the NBA.

                                            The games will be divided into four 10-minute quarters as opposed to two 20-minute halves. Teams will shoot two free throws beginning with the fifth foul of each quarter.

                                            • The shot clock will reset to 20 seconds after an offensive rebound instead of the full 30 second


                                            Source: NCAA.com

                                            Like this change. Gives an offensive Re-bounder like yours truly a chance for more triple doubles.
                                            "its time to start killing journalist" Mr. Merlin. 07-02-17

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                                            • #23
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                                              Originally posted by FairWarning View Post
                                              Maybe they just had totals for the TV games. Can’t remember if there were totals then.
                                              I remember back around 2000, it seemed like it was only TV games.

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                                              • #24
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                                                Originally posted by FairWarning View Post
                                                The only reason a kid is leaving after his freshman year is because he has to go for a year. Make a rule that if you commit to college, you have to stay for 2 years. Baseball can draft players out of HS and use college as leverage, let the hoops players. Why have a kid for a year? - all he is doing is working on his pro prospects. That may or may not make your program better. At least if the kid is there two years, you can build a program.
                                                Open up the "G" League for 17 and 18-year-olds who want cash instead of an education.

                                                Organize and promote the "G" League so the NBA can introduce "promotion and relegation" like the European soccer leagues, thus solving the problem of tanking.

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                                                • #25
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                                                  schools that have 1 and done need to be put on probation, then they will stop recruiting them.

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                                                  • #26
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                                                    Originally posted by John Kelly View Post
                                                    Love seeing the possible 2-for-1 strategy in college hoops.

                                                    It's one of my favorite areas to watch in the NBA.
                                                    Chris Paul is by far the best at managing that.

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                                                    • #27
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                                                      Originally posted by raycabino View Post
                                                      Chris Paul is by far the best at managing that.

                                                      You would know.

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                                                      • #28
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                                                        Best way to introduce a rule to benefit blue bloods is to let it go unnoticed in NIT then roll it out in mass. Best players go to the best teams. One and done in NCAA Tournament puts Blue Bloods in jeopardy of early exits. Reduce that risk.

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                                                        • #29
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                                                          Originally posted by FairWarning View Post
                                                          It wasn’t popular because of the four corners. It was popular because players stayed 3-4 years.


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                                                          • #30
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                                                            Originally posted by railbird View Post
                                                            schools that have 1 and done need to be put on probation, then they will stop recruiting them.
                                                            Even better, you use a scholarship on a one and done, you can't use that the remaining 3 years. Same with guys leaving early, if you don't play the full 4 years, that scholarship is not available till the term of your graduating class.
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                                                            • #31
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                                                              Originally posted by John Kelly View Post
                                                              Final score from the 1973 college basketball season: Tennessee 11 Temple 6.
                                                              Temple under Don Casey played the 3-2 Harry Litwack zone. Tennessee (Ray Mears) wouldn't attack it and Casey wouldn't come out of it. Made for a very bad game. There was a game circa 1978 at Duke where Carolina led 5-0 or something at halftime. Dean also tried to hold the ball against UJCLA in the '69 NCAA finals. That didn't work worth a shit. For all the credit he gets, Dean had some very bad ideas.

                                                              Bookies would post totals on NCAA finals and perhaps semis in 1976.

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                                                              • #32
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                                                                Originally posted by Don Eagleston View Post
                                                                Temple under Don Casey played the 3-2 Harry Litwack zone. Tennessee (Ray Mears) wouldn't attack it and Casey wouldn't come out of it. Made for a very bad game. There was a game circa 1978 at Duke where Carolina led 5-0 or something at halftime. Dean also tried to hold the ball against UJCLA in the '69 NCAA finals. That didn't work worth a shit. For all the credit he gets, Dean had some very bad ideas.

                                                                Bookies would post totals on NCAA finals and perhaps semis in 1976.
                                                                The Owls off to a very slow start at Tulsa today trailing 23-0 midway thru the first. Harry would not be pleased.

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                                                                • #33
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                                                                  Originally posted by Don Eagleston View Post
                                                                  Temple under Don Casey played the 3-2 Harry Litwack zone. Tennessee (Ray Mears) wouldn't attack it and Casey wouldn't come out of it. Made for a very bad game. There was a game circa 1978 at Duke where Carolina led 5-0 or something at halftime. Dean also tried to hold the ball against UJCLA in the '69 NCAA finals. That didn't work worth a shit. For all the credit he gets, Dean had some very bad ideas.

                                                                  Bookies would post totals on NCAA finals and perhaps semis in 1976.
                                                                  After googling the game, it was Temple which held the ball and Mears who stayed in the zone. Tennessee naturally blamed Temple for refusing to play. It may have been this game that led to the rule that the trailing team had to play -- either move the ball a bit or come out and challenge the offense.

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                                                                  • #34
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                                                                    Thanks for the history lesson, Don.

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                                                                    • #35
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                                                                      Originally posted by John Kelly View Post
                                                                      Thanks for the history lesson, Don.
                                                                      Memory not as good as I would like to think. More importantly, I wonder how moving the 3 point line will affect scoring. NIT games generally have gone over in recent years. Could be the opposite this year. I agree with Rail that there are too many 3 point shots now. NIT has become an excellent lab for possible rule changes.

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                                                                      • #36
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                                                                        This is going to be a great watch to see how books set these totals for this tourney. Longer 3 point shot will be off set with a two shot bonus at five fouls. Teams that have foul problems vs good FT shooting guards is going to be an interesting watch.

                                                                        Marquette would be perfect for this tourney. Their top 3 FT shoots are all over 86% and have 3 guys that the extra distance on the three point shot would mean nothing.

                                                                        I would really like to see all these changes enter the game next year.

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                                                                        • #37
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                                                                          Dislike the shot clock rule
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                                                                          • #38
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                                                                            first bookie i recall putting up totals on all games, including 2nd halfs, was spiro at olympic/thegreek.

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                                                                            • #39
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                                                                              eliminate the shot clock and the three point line and i may start watching college basketball again.

                                                                              20 seconds after offensive rebounds, joke rule change.

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                                                                              • #40
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                                                                                Originally posted by FairWarning View Post
                                                                                Yet all of thr problems are with the players who have no intention of staying. If they don’t want to be there,let them go pro. How is a year of college going to help LeBrons kid when he reaches that age?
                                                                                Agree 100%

                                                                                If baseball and hockey players can get drafted and play in the minors right out of HS, if tennis players can go pro at young ages, why can't basketball players? Yes, most benefit from staying a few years in college, but who is anyone to say nobody CAN'T pursue a pro career if they want? Its people like Adam Silver believing they know what's best for everyone.

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