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    Men are born for games. Nothing else... the worth or merit of a game is not inherent in the game itself but rather in the value of that which is put at hazard. Games of chance require a wager to have meaning at all. Games of sport involve the pride of victory & the humiliation of defeat; which are themselves sufficient stake... But trial of chance or worth, all games aspire to the condition of war, for here, that which is wagered swallows up game, player, all.

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    Surely you've put your entire net worth on the current series price of Cavaliers -215 then. I hear Cedi Osman might even get some early burn in Game 2.

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    • #3
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      Originally posted by Cristiano View Post
      Surely you've put your entire net worth on the current series price of Cavaliers -215 then. I hear Cedi Osman might even get some early burn in Game 2.
      I can't wait to put you on ignore. Just going to hold out long enough to clown your ass and then I'm putting you in the bin, where you belong.
      Men are born for games. Nothing else... the worth or merit of a game is not inherent in the game itself but rather in the value of that which is put at hazard. Games of chance require a wager to have meaning at all. Games of sport involve the pride of victory & the humiliation of defeat; which are themselves sufficient stake... But trial of chance or worth, all games aspire to the condition of war, for here, that which is wagered swallows up game, player, all.

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      • #4
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        The only thing you're ignoring is the reality of LeBron's demise.

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        • #5
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          Originally posted by Cristiano View Post
          Surely you've put your entire net worth on the current series price of Cavaliers -215 then. I hear Cedi Osman might even get some early burn in Game 2.
          He may not even need to play but I would love to see him. If they start Game 2 the same way they did Game 1, he better be the first dude off the bench.
          Men are born for games. Nothing else... the worth or merit of a game is not inherent in the game itself but rather in the value of that which is put at hazard. Games of chance require a wager to have meaning at all. Games of sport involve the pride of victory & the humiliation of defeat; which are themselves sufficient stake... But trial of chance or worth, all games aspire to the condition of war, for here, that which is wagered swallows up game, player, all.

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          • #6
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            How many threads for your manlove kid?


            Annoying little guy ain't you.
            How you better than somebody? Cuz you said so? Naw man, don't work that way. Sun shine on everybody ass just the same. Get up off your chair and get some.

            Captain Old Earl Johnson Natchez Miss.

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            • #7
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              Originally posted by Cristiano View Post
              Surely you've put your entire net worth on the current series price of Cavaliers -215 then. I hear Cedi Osman might even get some early burn in Game 2.

              Cavs adjusted series price (-215) available at William Hill right now.

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                Originally posted by billysink View Post
                How many threads for your manlove kid?


                Annoying little guy ain't you.
                The monkey doesn't tell the Silverback what to do.

                Here is a song that LBJ and I often listen to together; he uses the left earphone, I the right.

                Men are born for games. Nothing else... the worth or merit of a game is not inherent in the game itself but rather in the value of that which is put at hazard. Games of chance require a wager to have meaning at all. Games of sport involve the pride of victory & the humiliation of defeat; which are themselves sufficient stake... But trial of chance or worth, all games aspire to the condition of war, for here, that which is wagered swallows up game, player, all.

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                  Unhinged.

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                  • #10
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                    Bought a little more on Bucks today. I think they win next 3. Certainly win 2 out of 3. Bucks win this series.

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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by Cristiano View Post
                      Unhinged.
                      I love not wisely, but too well!

                      If it comes down to it:

                      Men are born for games. Nothing else... the worth or merit of a game is not inherent in the game itself but rather in the value of that which is put at hazard. Games of chance require a wager to have meaning at all. Games of sport involve the pride of victory & the humiliation of defeat; which are themselves sufficient stake... But trial of chance or worth, all games aspire to the condition of war, for here, that which is wagered swallows up game, player, all.

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                        Originally posted by unluckysob View Post
                        Bought a little more on Bucks today. I think they win next 3. Certainly win 2 out of 3. Bucks win this series.
                        FUCK the Bucks!!!
                        Men are born for games. Nothing else... the worth or merit of a game is not inherent in the game itself but rather in the value of that which is put at hazard. Games of chance require a wager to have meaning at all. Games of sport involve the pride of victory & the humiliation of defeat; which are themselves sufficient stake... But trial of chance or worth, all games aspire to the condition of war, for here, that which is wagered swallows up game, player, all.

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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by unluckysob View Post
                          Bought a little more on Bucks today. I think they win next 3. Certainly win 2 out of 3. Bucks win this series.

                          Bucks adjusted series price (+175) available at CGT, South Point and Station Casinos right now.

                          "The Greek Freak" is ridiculously good and I think he'll be the one (not Kevin Durant) who eventually takes the baton from GameBred's favorite player.

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                          • #14
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                            Cavs have been on knife's edge all year. Are they any good? Or is this a dog-shit team?

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                              Bred's just trolling. Thread after thread on the Cavs or Brick.

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                                Originally posted by John Kelly View Post
                                Bucks adjusted series price (+175) available at CGT, South Point and Station Casinos right now.

                                "The Greek Freak" is ridiculously good and I think he'll be the one (not Kevin Durant) who eventually takes the baton from GameBred's favorite player.
                                Reason for optimism after Game 1? Have to feel like they can play w/ this team.

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                                  Originally posted by ChuckyG View Post
                                  Reason for optimism after Game 1? Have to feel like they can play w/ this team.

                                  Here's the central question: Can a soon-to-be 32-year-old Al Horford keep up with the 23-year-old Giannis Antetokounmpo over a seven-game series?

                                  Note to Bucks: Keep Horford off the charity stripe.

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                                    Originally posted by ChuckyG View Post
                                    Cavs have been on knife's edge all year. Are they any good? Or is this a dog-shit team?
                                    With LeBron they're a good team, not championship good, but good. Without LeBron they're lucky to win 30 games and would be picking third in the draft
                                    All great genius encounters violent opposition from mediocre minds

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                                      Tyronn Lue is imploring LeBron to start fast in Game 2.

                                      LeBron's first field-goal attempt in Game 1 came when the Cavs trailed the Pacers, 25-8, late in the first quarter.

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                                        Originally posted by ChuckyG View Post
                                        Cavs have been on knife's edge all year. Are they any good? Or is this a dog-shit team?
                                        Chucky, don't turn into a Dipshit on me, please, I beg you. Not you too. I've already lost respect for some dudes, don't join the list.
                                        Men are born for games. Nothing else... the worth or merit of a game is not inherent in the game itself but rather in the value of that which is put at hazard. Games of chance require a wager to have meaning at all. Games of sport involve the pride of victory & the humiliation of defeat; which are themselves sufficient stake... But trial of chance or worth, all games aspire to the condition of war, for here, that which is wagered swallows up game, player, all.

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                                          Originally posted by kane View Post
                                          With LeBron they're a good team, not championship good, but good. Without LeBron they're lucky to win 30 games and would be picking third in the draft
                                          This is just delusion. Look at the teams that are picking top 10 this year. None of them had one single player that was of Kevin Love’s caliber before Kevin Love was ruined by playing with Lebron James.

                                          Bosh and Love’s careers both tanked when they joined forced with lebron. Certainly not coincidence.

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                                            Originally posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
                                            This is just delusion. Look at the teams that are picking top 10 this year. None of them had one single player that was of Kevin Love’s caliber before Kevin Love was ruined by playing with Lebron James.

                                            Bosh and Love’s careers both tanked when they joined forced with lebron. Certainly not coincidence.
                                            If you think Cleveland would be a good team without LeBron, you're the one who's delusional. Love has always been an overrated player, he put up big numbers in Minnesota playing on a bad team. Kevin Love, Jeff Green, Goerge Hill, Kyle Korver, Rodney Hood, Larry Nance, Jordan Clarkson, JR Smith, Jose Calderon, Cedi Osman, Tristan Thompson. If you think that group is winning anything, you're delusional, you're not going anywhere with a whole bunch of role players and not one star, that group doesn't sniff the playoffs without LeBron
                                            All great genius encounters violent opposition from mediocre minds

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                                            • #23
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                                              Originally posted by kane View Post
                                              If you think Cleveland would be a good team without LeBron, you're the one who's delusional. Love has always been an overrated player, he put up big numbers in Minnesota playing on a bad team. Kevin Love, Jeff Green, Goerge Hill, Kyle Korver, Rodney Hood, Larry Nance, Jordan Clarkson, JR Smith, Jose Calderon, Cedi Osman, Tristan Thompson. If you think that group is winning anything, you're delusional, you're not going anywhere with a whole bunch of role players and not one star, that group doesn't sniff the playoffs without LeBron
                                              The Bulls are only picking 6th this year and their team was truly awful, and they even benched and traded their reasonably talented players. So no, the Cavs without Lebron would not be picking top 10.

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                                                Kyrie Irving played 3 years in Cleveland before LeBron got there. Year one they went 21-45, year two they went 24-48, year three they went 33-49. Then LeBron went back there and his first season back they went 53-29. The Cavs had a star in Kyrie Irving, but they went a combined 78-142. If the Cavs sucked with Kyrie as their best player, I can assure you they would suck with Love being their #1 guy
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                                                  Originally posted by kane View Post
                                                  Kyrie Irving played 3 years in Cleveland before LeBron got there. Year one they went 21-45, year two they went 24-48, year three they went 33-49. Then LeBron went back there and his first season back they went 53-29. The Cavs had a star in Kyrie Irving, but they went a combined 78-142. If the Cavs sucked with Kyrie as their best player, I can assure you they would suck with Love being their #1 guy
                                                  That's b/c they were tanking with Kyrie for another star.

                                                  If a team built around Kevin Love and the players the Cavs have were trying, they'd be a playoff team.

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                                                    Originally posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
                                                    That's b/c they were tanking with Kyrie for another star.

                                                    If a team built around Kevin Love and the players the Cavs have were trying, they'd be a playoff team.
                                                    Washington is the 8th seed, go take a look at their roster compared to a LeBronless Cavs roster, then tell me how Kevin Love is leading them to the playoffs. John Wall and Bradley Beal are both better than Love, the Wizards roster is much stronger than the Cavs roster sans LeBron. If you think the Cavs make the playoffs without LeBron, you're nuts. Washington was 42-40, Cleveland was 50-32, take LeBron off Cleveland and they win about 20 less games
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                                                      Originally posted by kane View Post
                                                      Washington is the 8th seed, go take a look at their roster compared to a LeBronless Cavs roster, then tell me how Kevin Love is leading them to the playoffs. John Wall and Bradley Beal are both better than Love, the Wizards roster is much stronger than the Cavs roster sans LeBron. If you think the Cavs make the playoffs without LeBron, you're nuts. Washington was 42-40, Cleveland was 50-32, take LeBron off Cleveland and they win about 20 less games
                                                      Wall missed half of the year and Washington is an abortion without Wall.

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                                                        Originally posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
                                                        The Bulls are only picking 6th this year and their team was truly awful, and they even benched and traded their reasonably talented players. So no, the Cavs without Lebron would not be picking top 10.
                                                        That's the problem when many teams employ the tank strategy. The Cavs roster, sans LBJ would win 25-30.
                                                        Michael Jordan isn't anywhere near as athletic as lebron James. Jordan wouldn't even be a top 20 athlete in the game right now in his prime. - Cleveland Homer Big Deemer
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                                                        • #29
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                                                          Originally posted by FairWarning View Post
                                                          That's the problem when many teams employ the tank strategy. The Cavs roster, sans LBJ would win 25-30.
                                                          As Usual, FW the voice of reason
                                                          All great genius encounters violent opposition from mediocre minds

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                                                          • #30
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                                                            Originally posted by FairWarning View Post
                                                            That's the problem when many teams employ the tank strategy. The Cavs roster, sans LBJ would win 25-30.
                                                            Only because they wouldn’t be trying to win. Bench Love for a few weeks. Not trade for small pieces to help out. A sore ankle means benched for 10 days. It’s all about the end goal

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                                                              Originally posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
                                                              Only because they wouldn’t be trying to win. Bench Love for a few weeks. Not trade for small pieces to help out. A sore ankle means benched for 10 days. It’s all about the end goal
                                                              Kevin Love played 6 season in Minnesota. Year one 24-48, year two 15-67, year three 17-65, year four 26-40, year five 31-51, year six 40-42, in six season he went a combined 153-323, and missed the playoffs all six seasons. Obviously they didn't have much talent, but then neither does this Cavs team, if Love couldn't even reach .500 in those six years and never made the playoffs, I don't know how he's leading this mediocre Cavs bunch to the playoffs either. If LeBron leaves next year, we may find out, but my guess is if LeBron leaves, the Cavs would trade Love and start a rebuild
                                                              All great genius encounters violent opposition from mediocre minds

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                                                              • #32
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                                                                Originally posted by kane View Post
                                                                With LeBron they're a good team, not championship good, but good. Without LeBron they're lucky to win 30 games and would be picking third in the draft
                                                                You can say that about a lot of teams........ Dumb point

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                                                                  Originally posted by High Times View Post
                                                                  You can say that about a lot of teams........ Dumb point
                                                                  You are clueless
                                                                  All great genius encounters violent opposition from mediocre minds

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                                                                  • #34
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                                                                    The Miami Heat back several years ago had 3 top 5 PER players... take Lebron off that team, and they still had 2 top 5 PER players. I bet Kane would tell you a Miami Heat roster with TWO top 5 PER players was incapable of winning it all.

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                                                                      Originally posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
                                                                      The Miami Heat back several years ago had 3 top 5 PER players... take Lebron off that team, and they still had 2 top 5 PER players. I bet Kane would tell you a Miami Heat roster with TWO top 5 PER players was incapable of winning it all.
                                                                      Take LeBron off Cleveland and how many top 5 PER players do they have?
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                                                                      • #36
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                                                                        Originally posted by kane View Post
                                                                        Take LeBron off Cleveland and how many top 5 PER players do they have?
                                                                        Mavericks won it all with 0 I believe. Pistons probably did that year they won too.

                                                                        Lebron James and his fan base have complained about lack of help every single spot he's landed. You have to agree that's the case. Even when he had two top 5 PER players in Miami.

                                                                        The fact is, Lebron doesn't let his superstar teammates get their's as well, so superstars don't like playing for him.

                                                                        Kyrie Irving hated playing with Lebron so much he went to management and said he'd never play another game with Lebron.

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                                                                        • #37
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                                                                          Originally posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
                                                                          Mavericks won it all with 0 I believe. Pistons probably did that year they won too.

                                                                          Lebron James and his fan base have complained about lack of help every single spot he's landed. You have to agree that's the case. Even when he had two top 5 PER players in Miami.

                                                                          The fact is, Lebron doesn't let his superstar teammates get their's as well, so superstars don't like playing for him.

                                                                          Kyrie Irving hated playing with Lebron so much he went to management and said he'd never play another game with Lebron.
                                                                          Kyrie Irving wanted to be #1 option, that was never happening as long as LeBron was in Cleveland, so he went to a place where he could be the #1. I have no idea what any of your other nonsense means, I hope you're not implying the Cavs could win it all without LeBron, no one can possibly be that dumb
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                                                                          • #38
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                                                                            Originally posted by kane View Post
                                                                            Kyrie Irving wanted to be #1 option, that was never happening as long as LeBron was in Cleveland, so he went to a place where he could be the #1. I have no idea what any of your other nonsense means, I hope you're not implying the Cavs could win it all without LeBron, no one can possibly be that dumb
                                                                            Love's career tanked when he joined forces with Lebron. Bosh's did as well. Irving demanded to leave. Interesting how Michael Jordan, with his insane desire to win at all costs was able to keep Pippen happy and productive to a hall of fame career but LeBrick, with his obsession with his own brand and stats, and without the killer instinct to win at all costs, isn't able to keep his star teammates near as happy.

                                                                            Actually, that's not interesting. It's exactly what you'd expect.

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                                                                            • #39
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                                                                              Originally posted by JavyBaez9 View Post
                                                                              Love's career tanked when he joined forces with Lebron. Bosh's did as well. Irving demanded to leave. Interesting how Michael Jordan, with his insane desire to win at all costs was able to keep Pippen happy and productive to a hall of fame career but LeBrick, with his obsession with his own brand and stats, and without the killer instinct to win at all costs, isn't able to keep his star teammates near as happy.

                                                                              Actually, that's not interesting. It's exactly what you'd expect.
                                                                              Nobody's career tanked when they played with LeBron, that's a dumb thing to say. When Kevin Love played in Minnesota he was the #1 option, the guy chucked as many shots as he wanted, going to Cleveland he instantly became the 3rd option behind Kyrie and LeBron, of course his numbers were going to go down, the same thing with Bosh, in Toronto he was the go to guy, in Miami he was #3 in the pecking order, not hard to understand that going from a teams first option to a teams third option means those players stats would decrease. Bosh and Love were both willing to give up numbers in order to play with LeBron to possibly win a championship, and that's exactly what happened to both Love and Bosh, they didn't mind sacrificing their own numbers in order to win
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                                                                              • #40
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                                                                                Originally posted by kane View Post
                                                                                Nobody's career tanked when they played with LeBron, that's a dumb thing to say. When Kevin Love played in Minnesota he was the #1 option, the guy chucked as many shots as he wanted, going to Cleveland he instantly became the 3rd option behind Kyrie and LeBron, of course his numbers were going to go down, the same thing with Bosh, in Toronto he was the go to guy, in Miami he was #3 in the pecking order, not hard to understand that going from a teams first option to a teams third option means those players stats would decrease. Bosh and Love were both willing to give up numbers in order to play with LeBron to possibly win a championship, and that's exactly what happened to both Love and Bosh, they didn't mind sacrificing their own numbers in order to win
                                                                                I don't think being blamed for losses in the media constantly was what they signed up for, but hey, maybe they agreed to that too.

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