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    Boston Celtics OVER 206.5

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      Originally posted by railbird View Post
      As a fan I hate it when home team wins, I hate crowds
      You hate life.

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        the home team isn't life, Jesus is the way the truth and the life

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          oakland athletics -108

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            Originally posted by railbird View Post
            Boston Celtics OVER 206.5

            Final score: Cavs 116 Celtics 86.

            Only three points scored in the game's final two minutes and 49 seconds.

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              Birdie is currently 9-7-2 for a winning rate of 56.25%.

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                Originally posted by Heim View Post
                Runline ok?
                Originally posted by John Kelly View Post
                Good to go tonight.

                I'll warn Birdie from here.
                Originally posted by railbird View Post
                Where in rules did it say no run lines
                Originally posted by John Kelly View Post
                1. Contestant will post 30 plays in 30 days (one play per day) starting the first of the month.
                2. Games must be played within a 30-day time frame.
                3. Major North American team sports only: NFL, NCAAF, NHL, NBA, NCAAB, MLB, MLS, CFL and WNBA.
                4. Full-game sides and totals -110 or LOWER.
                5. Contestants are graded against Pinnacle numbers at the time of post.
                6. Must hit 60% or better to be declared a winner of the $1,000 prize.
                7. Cannot play both sides of the same game.

                Originally posted by railbird View Post
                thought a runline was a side
                Originally posted by railbird View Post
                side = team
                runline= point spread
                I don’t want to sidetrack the thread, but since I now have a vested interest I thought I would weigh in briefly:

                Birdie is correct. Runlines should absolutely be allowed. Astros -1.5 -110 is no different than Saints -1.5 -110 or Cavs -1.5 -110. Same with puck lines in hockey, so long as they meet the -110 or lower threshold. It is a wager on a side.

                In fact, if we wanted to go with a super-strict interpretation of the rules as they read currently, it’s runlines that should be allowed and ML’s that should be disallowed.

                Because of the nature of baseball betting, MLB handicappers are essentially playing this contest with one hand tied behind their back, as they are pretty much limited to only one betting option per game on sides, and to a lesser extent on totals as well. (since most of them are also juiced in some fashion.) It seems only fair to me to allow runlines as well.

                Either way, I would like some official clarification before my turn comes in June, as the wording as it stands is a bit ambiguous.

                BOL the rest of the way, Birdie.

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                  Tricky situation, EJD.

                  You make a good point about MLB run lines but then does this become a slippery slope: Does it open up other derivatives like F5 or RHE props?

                  Birdie's request for golf and tennis match-ups was rejected.

                  If we change the rules now, we upset those who have competed in the past (both the winners and losers) against the strict interpretation of the original rules.

                  Remember, it's EOG's Grand Challenge, not EOG's Grand Giveaway.

                  Allow me to talk to BetDSI brass and then I'll get back to you.

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                    No worries, John. I just want to know for sure one way or the other.

                    Your argument about a run line being a derivative is a solid one, and I understand the idea is to keep derivatives out of it.

                    My only point is that, because of the format, MLB handicappers face some unique challenges when it comes to this contest that cappers of other sports aren’t necessarily saddled with.

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                      very hard when bases is the only game in town. Im all about options. Some days its dificult
                      to find a handful of options that are -110 for sides and totals in bases. still fun contest.
                      my abilitys are more on display in my running thread.

                      Hope all have a prosperous Sunday

                      Nutter

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                        also bol Rail
                        going forward

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                          Originally posted by John Kelly View Post
                          Tricky situation, EJD.

                          You make a good point about MLB run lines but then does this become a slippery slope: Does it open up other derivatives like F5 or RHE props?

                          Birdie's request for golf and tennis match-ups was rejected.

                          If we change the rules now, we upset those who have competed in the past (both the winners and losers) against the strict interpretation of the original rules.

                          Remember, it's EOG's Grand Challenge, not EOG's Grand Giveaway.

                          Allow me to talk to BetDSI brass and then I'll get back to you.
                          rules say full game to address 1st 5 issue. rules says teams not props. rules are addressed, run line should be allowed. all point spreads, run lines, goal lines and totals that are under -110 should be allowed. When contest began 5 years ago another issue is Pinnacle didn't straddle every baseball total where only 1 side is under -110.

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                            and moneylines

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                              10-7-2

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                                Originally posted by texansfan View Post
                                Do you ever tire of being a whiny bitch? You need to take that hike real soon.
                                Do you ever tire of being a giant douchebag? You need to catch that bullet real soon.
                                All great genius encounters violent opposition from mediocre minds

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                                  Originally posted by John Kelly View Post
                                  Tricky situation, EJD.

                                  You make a good point about MLB run lines but then does this become a slippery slope: Does it open up other derivatives like F5 or RHE props?

                                  Birdie's request for golf and tennis match-ups was rejected.

                                  If we change the rules now, we upset those who have competed in the past (both the winners and losers) against the strict interpretation of the original rules.

                                  Remember, it's EOG's Grand Challenge, not EOG's Grand Giveaway.

                                  Allow me to talk to BetDSI brass and then I'll get back to you.
                                  Here is my take on it, since I just participated - when looking at the main baseball and hockey lines, most books show the RL and PL are right on the main page along with the total. Now TTS, RHE and others are usually under props.

                                  no sour grapes, I was grateful to have a chance.
                                  Michael Jordan isn't anywhere near as athletic as lebron James. Jordan wouldn't even be a top 20 athlete in the game right now in his prime. - Cleveland Homer Big Deemer
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                                    This forum is so fuckin sad to read at this point. Bunch of old men bickering....

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                                      11-7-2

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                                        Originally posted by railbird View Post
                                        504 Golden State Warriors -7
                                        Originally posted by railbird View Post
                                        oakland athletics -108

                                        Big day for Birdie.

                                        Two plays, two winners.

                                        Railbird improves to 11-7-2 for a winning rate of 61%.

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                                          went with the East bay teams, like MC Hammer. 2 legit 2 quit

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                                          • Re: EOG's Grand Challenge presented by BetDSI (RAILBIRD is our May contestant)

                                            Dodgers under 7 -109

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                                              Originally posted by railbird View Post
                                              Dodgers under 7 -109
                                              After missing the 7.5 why take a chance with a 3rd tie which is a good as a loss?
                                              The art of learning is learning who to ignore ~LeAnn Rimes

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                                                Originally posted by Heim View Post
                                                After missing the 7.5 why take a chance with a 3rd tie which is a good as a loss?

                                                marine layer is extra thick today, nobody is getting in 2 on the par 5s at Meadowlark.

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                                                  7.5 u was -111

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                                                    I have that out of pocket

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                                                      more nasty weather tomorrow expected

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                                                        Originally posted by railbird View Post
                                                        7.5 u was -111

                                                        The above message is in response to Heim asking why Birdie played UNDER 7 at Dodger Stadium.

                                                        Birdie responded UNDER 7.5 was priced at -111, making it an ineligible play for contest purposes.

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                                                          Originally posted by railbird View Post
                                                          Dodgers under 7 -109

                                                          Final score: Rockies 2 Dodgers 1.

                                                          Birdie improves to 12-7-2 after 21 selections.

                                                          That's a winning rate of 63%.

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                                                            12-7-2*

                                                            Good luck going forward....a dime could be yours....
                                                            Everyone dies......but not everyone lives.....

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                                                              Here's hoping Birdie's controversial win is not the difference-maker.

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                                                                Rooting for Matt Hatfield.....Rooting against Railbird....
                                                                Everyone dies......but not everyone lives.....

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                                                                  Originally posted by Viejo Dinosaur View Post
                                                                  Rooting for Matt Hatfield.....Rooting against Railbird....

                                                                  Matt Hatfield is in his late 40's, Railbird is still a teenager.

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                                                                    Originally posted by railbird View Post
                                                                    7.5 u was -111
                                                                    Originally posted by John Kelly View Post
                                                                    The above message is in response to Heim asking why Birdie played UNDER 7 at Dodger Stadium.

                                                                    Birdie responded UNDER 7.5 was priced at -111, making it an ineligible play for contest purposes.
                                                                    Glad you figured it out.

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                                                                      Originally posted by ComptrBob View Post
                                                                      Glad you figured it out.

                                                                      Had me fooled initially.

                                                                      Birdie's shorthand confused me, especially "was."

                                                                      When I saw "was," I was thinking "Washington."

                                                                      Hope all is well, Bob.

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                                                                        Originally posted by Viejo Dinosaur View Post
                                                                        12-7-2*

                                                                        Good luck going forward....a dime could be yours....
                                                                        or it could be mine............if rail wants to let it ride on facts/rail part 3

                                                                        i'm rooting for him

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                                                                          THE FACTSMAN is Birdie's kryptonite.

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                                                                            Originally posted by John Kelly View Post
                                                                            THE FACTSMAN is Birdie's kryptonite.
                                                                            JK, we both know I am a favorite over him in any matchup.

                                                                            Do favorites always win?

                                                                            No.

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                                                                              I favor FACTS at the craps table.

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                                                                                my craps strategy has always been a min bet on the don't and then root loud and hard

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                                                                                  Boston Celtics +1

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