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    In the past few days there's been an uptick in my book's sales. I'm not going to do anything, personally, to push this because I'm lazy and private, but I've been wondering about what EOG can do with this opportunity.

    Off the top of my head, they should have a prominent odds feed.

    They should have an historical odds DB.

    They should have push frequency half point calculators, set up to allow easy alternate line comparison.

    They should have series price calculators, and season win calculators. This is just embedded spreadsheet stuff.

    They could deal with touts. Thus is the money, let's be honest, and is the slippery slope of the biz. One approach would be to monitor and critique them, taking a true watchdog approach.

    The other way would be to dance with the devil, let them advertise but put a few limits on their tactics and enforce fair grading. Problem with this is that they all lose, so, nevermind.

    Anyway I'm just throwing ideas out there. I do think it's redic that covers does so we'll while offering so little except odds and stats.

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    Re: What can EOG do to take advantage of national legalization?

    Love the ideas except for promoting the touts which POKERJOE eventually scrapped.

    I think the overriding theme here is anti-tout.

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    • #3
      Re: What can EOG do to take advantage of national legalization?

      Interesting, your thoughts do point to a need for EOG to possibly remake or at least re imagine themselves or risk loss to what logically seems like a flood of new sites.

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      • #4
        Re: What can EOG do to take advantage of national legalization?

        How about G.A. as a sponsor?

        http://www.gamblersanonymous.org/ga/

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        • #5
          Re: What can EOG do to take advantage of national legalization?

          Hire a moderator, keep politics in political forum, feature a poster monthly (Valuist), promote more head to head contests , put touts in own forum.

          Advertise in DRF as many legal shops will be tied to racing entities.
          How you better than somebody? Cuz you said so? Naw man, don't work that way. Sun shine on everybody ass just the same. Get up off your chair and get some.

          Captain Old Earl Johnson Natchez Miss.

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          • #6
            Re: What can EOG do to take advantage of national legalization?

            Originally posted by billysink View Post
            Hire a moderator, keep politics in political forum, feature a poster monthly (Valuist), promote more head to head contests , put touts in own forum.

            Advertise in DRF as many legal shops will be tied to racing entities.
            And that is just for starters....
            Everyone dies......but not everyone lives.....

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            • #7
              Re: What can EOG do to take advantage of national legalization?

              I’m willing to freelance write if the price is right

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              • #8
                Re: What can EOG do to take advantage of national legalization?

                Originally posted by WeinketoWarrick View Post
                I’m willing to freelance write if the price is right
                JK pays me to generate traffic around here. You just might be to make a deal!
                "its time to start killing journalist" Mr. Merlin. 07-02-17

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                • #9
                  Re: What can EOG do to take advantage of national legalization?

                  My key point was to increase player functionality. Make it a site where players go to get the info they need to bet. They want stats, injury info and such, but also bet structure help. SBRs half point calculator is lol dated. Does anyone else even have one? Does any site have series price or season win calculators?

                  But I think the positioning race has already started, and though EOG has some good qualities, it doesn't provide the fundamentals, and at a minimum must do that.

                  And going anti-tout but pro capper is the way forward, I'm just not sure how to monetize that. I'm not sure what new advertising opportunity might arise. Will new state run books advertise nationally, if they can't take bets nationally?

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                  • #10
                    Re: What can EOG do to take advantage of national legalization?

                    Originally posted by Bigrunner View Post
                    JK pays me to generate traffic around here. You just might be to make a deal!
                    This place will NEVER be anything special as long as they allow clowns like you to post.

                    JK might pay you to LEAVE at best!


                    Dave "The MeatMan" Scandaliato

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                    • #11
                      Re: What can EOG do to take advantage of national legalization?

                      Originally posted by billysink View Post
                      Hire a moderator, keep politics in political forum, feature a poster monthly (Valuist), promote more head to head contests , put touts in own forum.

                      Advertise in DRF as many legal shops will be tied to racing entities.
                      agree with more h2h

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                      • #12
                        Re: What can EOG do to take advantage of national legalization?

                        Good thread

                        Nice to see you PJoe, hope all is well.
                        ​STAY FOCUSED

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                        • #13
                          Re: What can EOG do to take advantage of national legalization?

                          Are Betting Exchanges coming to the States?
                          Men are born for games. Nothing else... the worth or merit of a game is not inherent in the game itself but rather in the value of that which is put at hazard. Games of chance require a wager to have meaning at all. Games of sport involve the pride of victory & the humiliation of defeat; which are themselves sufficient stake... But trial of chance or worth, all games aspire to the condition of war, for here, that which is wagered swallows up game, player, all.

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                          • #14
                            Re: What can EOG do to take advantage of national legalization?

                            Originally posted by GameBred View Post
                            Are Betting Exchanges coming to the States?

                            Highly doubtful.

                            If William Hill is breaking on top in New Jersey, they've already shown their business model to Nevada's sports bettors.

                            Welcome the losers and eliminate or restrict the winners.

                            William Hill wants to know who's playing what at all times.

                            Every bet of $1,000 or more is closely monitored.

                            I much prefer CGT's business model (small hold percentage on a massive handle) but they've proven to be incompetent and sometimes even criminal.

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                            • #15
                              Re: What can EOG do to take advantage of national legalization?

                              these guys have the right idea how to get their US squares customer list:

                              https://www.reuters.com/article/us-f...-idUSKCN1IH0JJ
                              If you ain't shopping you ain't trying

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                              • #16
                                Re: What can EOG do to take advantage of national legalization?

                                Originally posted by billysink View Post
                                Hire a moderator, keep politics in political forum, feature a poster monthly (Valuist), promote more head to head contests , put touts in own forum.

                                Advertise in DRF as many legal shops will be tied to racing entities.

                                Excellent suggestions, Billy.

                                I'll forward your ideas to the ownership group.

                                Advertise in DRF?

                                Sounds so 1985.

                                Remember when English Sports Betting flooded the Racing Form with ads at a time when DRF was accepting money from international sports books?

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                                • #17
                                  Re: What can EOG do to take advantage of national legalization?

                                  Originally posted by GameBred View Post
                                  Are Betting Exchanges coming to the States?
                                  I disagree with JK. New Jersey already has legal exchange wagering through Betfair on horse racing.
                                  California has legalized exchange wagering, but has yet to implement any form of it, but of course this could spearhead that movement.
                                  Any contributions greatly appreciated
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                                  • #18
                                    Re: What can EOG do to take advantage of national legalization?

                                    I hope you're right, 2W.

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                                    • #19
                                      Re: What can EOG do to take advantage of national legalization?

                                      From the house's perspective, live wagering will be promoted far more heavily than exchange wagering.

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                                      • #20
                                        Re: What can EOG do to take advantage of national legalization?

                                        Originally posted by FISHHEAD View Post
                                        Good thread

                                        Nice to see you PJoe, hope all is well.
                                        You, too, thanks.

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                                        • #21
                                          Re: What can EOG do to take advantage of national legalization?

                                          Originally posted by John Kelly View Post
                                          From the house's perspective, live wagering will be promoted far more heavily than exchange wagering.
                                          Without a doubt

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                                          • #22
                                            Re: What can EOG do to take advantage of national legalization?

                                            Originally posted by John Kelly View Post
                                            Excellent suggestions, Billy.

                                            I'll forward your ideas to the ownership group.

                                            Advertise in DRF?

                                            Sounds so 1985.

                                            Remember when English Sports Betting flooded the Racing Form with ads at a time when DRF was accepting money from international sports books?

                                            For most, this entry point into gaming will be very similar to 1985.
                                            How you better than somebody? Cuz you said so? Naw man, don't work that way. Sun shine on everybody ass just the same. Get up off your chair and get some.

                                            Captain Old Earl Johnson Natchez Miss.

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                                            • #23
                                              Re: What can EOG do to take advantage of national legalization?

                                              Originally posted by billysink View Post
                                              Hire a moderator, keep politics in political forum, feature a poster monthly (Valuist), promote more head to head contests , put touts in own forum.

                                              Advertise in DRF as many legal shops will be tied to racing entities.
                                              Amen.

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                                              • #24
                                                Re: What can EOG do to take advantage of national legalization?

                                                Originally posted by John Kelly View Post
                                                Highly doubtful.

                                                If William Hill is breaking on top in New Jersey, they've already shown their business model to Nevada's sports bettors.

                                                Welcome the losers and eliminate or restrict the winners.

                                                William Hill wants to know who's playing what at all times.

                                                Every bet of $1,000 or more is closely monitored.

                                                I much prefer CGT's business model (small hold percentage on a massive handle) but they've proven to be incompetent and sometimes even criminal.
                                                Thanks for the reply.

                                                I don’t see an issue though. Exchanges don’t care how much you win; they just take a cut of your winnings. I would assume Exchange wagering would be available at some point, just curious as to how soon.

                                                Originally posted by 2W2P2S View Post
                                                I disagree with JK. New Jersey already has legal exchange wagering through Betfair on horse racing.
                                                California has legalized exchange wagering, but has yet to implement any form of it, but of course this could spearhead that movement.
                                                Thank you also for the reply.

                                                You can log into BF from there and purchase software to trade a price ladder?
                                                Men are born for games. Nothing else... the worth or merit of a game is not inherent in the game itself but rather in the value of that which is put at hazard. Games of chance require a wager to have meaning at all. Games of sport involve the pride of victory & the humiliation of defeat; which are themselves sufficient stake... But trial of chance or worth, all games aspire to the condition of war, for here, that which is wagered swallows up game, player, all.

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                                                • #25
                                                  Re: What can EOG do to take advantage of national legalization?

                                                  Originally posted by John Kelly View Post
                                                  Highly doubtful.

                                                  If William Hill is breaking on top in New Jersey, they've already shown their business model to Nevada's sports bettors.

                                                  Welcome the losers and eliminate or restrict the winners.

                                                  William Hill wants to know who's playing what at all times.

                                                  Every bet of $1,000 or more is closely monitored.
                                                  The complaints on WH are about to become monumental
                                                  ​STAY FOCUSED

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                                                  • #26
                                                    Re: What can EOG do to take advantage of national legalization?

                                                    Originally posted by The Meatman View Post
                                                    This place will NEVER be anything special as long as they allow clowns like you to post.

                                                    JK might pay you to LEAVE at best!


                                                    Dave "The MeatMan" Scandaliato
                                                    100% correct

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                                                    • #27
                                                      Re: What can EOG do to take advantage of national legalization?

                                                      Double JK’s pay.

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                                                      • #28
                                                        Re: What can EOG do to take advantage of national legalization?

                                                        they should have up to date and precise info on what states are doing exactly what. what is being offered, what format, VIG, rules hours open, directions, and what seems to be next up or pending in other states. be much more active on Twitter for breaking updated news on states opening up options.

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                                                        • #29
                                                          Re: What can EOG do to take advantage of national legalization?

                                                          Originally posted by GameBred View Post
                                                          Thanks for the reply.

                                                          I don’t see an issue though. Exchanges don’t care how much you win; they just take a cut of your winnings. I would assume Exchange wagering would be available at some point, just curious as to how soon.



                                                          Thank you also for the reply.

                                                          You can log into BF from there and purchase software to trade a price ladder?
                                                          Only NJ residents and within the limits of NJ can log in so I'm not exactly sure.
                                                          Any contributions greatly appreciated
                                                          http://fullertoncares.com/
                                                          http://www.sctbrescue.org/

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                                                          • #30
                                                            Re: What can EOG do to take advantage of national legalization?

                                                            Originally posted by 2W2P2S View Post
                                                            Only NJ residents and within the limits of NJ can log in so I'm not exactly sure.
                                                            I thought that might be the case. Thanks again.
                                                            Men are born for games. Nothing else... the worth or merit of a game is not inherent in the game itself but rather in the value of that which is put at hazard. Games of chance require a wager to have meaning at all. Games of sport involve the pride of victory & the humiliation of defeat; which are themselves sufficient stake... But trial of chance or worth, all games aspire to the condition of war, for here, that which is wagered swallows up game, player, all.

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                                                            • #31
                                                              Re: What can EOG do to take advantage of national legalization?

                                                              Originally posted by trytrytry View Post
                                                              they should have up to date and precise info on what states are doing exactly what. what is being offered, what format, VIG, rules hours open, directions, and what seems to be next up or pending in other states. be much more active on Twitter for breaking updated news on states opening up options.
                                                              Yes.

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