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  • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

    "Legal AND tender"???? Is that like a steak?

    Baghdad tank: I like my steak medium rare..."legal and tender"!!

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    • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

      Originally posted by Joe Contrarian View Post


      "Um yes it does have a raised seal and according to the state of Hawaii is legal and tender when they submitted it."
      --- Baghdad Tank

      Submitted what...and to where? WTF are you rambling on about???
      Good God take your meds you fucking idiot.
      http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/News_Release_Birth_Certificate_042711.pdf
      I
      t is self explanatory so I know an idiot like you will not be able to comprehend it.
      You know this thing that you fucking idiots are claiming is fake you moron.

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      • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

        Originally posted by Joe Contrarian View Post
        "Legal AND tender"???? Is that like a steak?

        Baghdad tank: I like my steak medium rare..."legal and tender"!!

        See more idiotic ramblings from the tard having a manic episode again.

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        • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

          Originally posted by tank View Post
          Good God take your meds you fucking idiot.
          http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/News_Release_Birth_Certificate_042711.pdf
          I
          t is self explanatory so I know an idiot like you will not be able to comprehend it.
          You know this thing that you fucking idiots are claiming is fake you moron.


          "This pdf news release is legal and tender...and I like my steak rare...don't believe the Americans lies and propaganda!"
          -- Baghdad Tank

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          • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

            Originally posted by Joe Contrarian View Post


            "This news release is legal and tender...and I like my steak rare...the Americans are spreading their lies and propaganda again!"
            -- Baghdad Tank

            Let's add a picture so everyone knows what we are dealing with here!!


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            • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

              Originally posted by tank View Post
              Let's add a picture so everyone knows what we are dealing with here!!


              Ill help ya derail this stupid thread buddy!!

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              • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                How we insure our presidents are eligible

                by Dr. Conspiracy on APRIL 20, 2012 in 2012 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, FEATURED ARTICLES
                In the wake of the 2008 U. S. Presidential Election some bemoaned the lack of eligibility checking for presidential candidates. Some asserted that there is a “big gaping hole” in the process that led to confusion, turmoil, and, in their view, an ineligible President taking office. Some said that the process is broken and needs to be fixed.
                Several state legislatures considered legislation that would establish procedures to vet presidential candidates at the state level, including requirements that candidates present documents and give oaths. None became law. Challenges in at least 18 states were filed alleging that various presidential candidates are ineligible to appear on the ballot, or that state officials have failed in their duty to perform a rigorous eligibility screening for all presidential candidates. Over one hundred failed lawsuits, petitions and challenges later, things are essentially where they began.
                I believe that the system is not broken; rather, the confusion and turmoil is solely due to the failure of those suffering the confusion and experiencing the turmoil to read and understand the U. S. Constitution. Our Constitution sets up a two-stage process to insure that only an eligible individual assumes the office of President of the United States.
                The first responsibility in selecting an eligible President lies with the citizens of the United States. Citizens are guaranteed by the Constitution the right to speak and to assemble peacefully. At no time in our history has it been easier for an individual to reach large numbers of other voters; the Internet indeed makes speech free. TheConstitution also grants freedom of the Press, who have the resources to research, to investigate, interview, and get priority access to Freedom of Information Act material. Candidates can, and do investigate each other in microscopic detail and have ample resources to publish what they find. At any point, should it be suspected that a candidate for President is not eligible under the Constitution to serve in the Office, the opportunity is there to lay that concern before the voters in the election process.

                It may be argued that private individuals, the Press, and opposition candidates are limited in what they can do in their investigation. Some records are closed by law, the public lacks subpoena power and they cannot compel testimony under oath. It may be argued that a misguided public could elect a popular candidate they know is ineligible. The Constitution provides an answer to this unlikely contingency. Under the Twelfth Amendment, at the time the votes of the Electoral College are counted, an objection by a single Senator and a single member of the House of Representatives will trigger an investigation by Congress into a candidate’s eligibility, and the Twentieth Amendment provides an exact procedure to handle the situation where the President-elect fails to qualify. (Take a moment to recall the many difficult political investigations done by Congress in the past.) Congress has the resources, the staff and the power to subpoena documents and compel testimony under oath.
                Under our Constitution, the voters choose electors who by proxy select our President. No U. S. President elected by the voters has ever been found ineligible to serve under the Constitution. The system has worked for over 200 years. In the extremely unlikely situation that a future candidate should be elected President who was ineligible, who better than the Congress is qualified to settle the question?
                While some may be dissatisfied with the outcome of the 2008 election, the process worked – the opposition just failed to make their argument. The case for ineligibility was out there for the voters to decide and they decided in favor of eligibility. Members of Congress were petitioned to investigate the 2008 Election on account of eligibility concerns before certifying the results. All the members of Congress voted to certify.
                I think we have an elegant and effective vetting process for the office of President of the United States. It is much more streamlined than hundreds of lawsuits and a myriad of inconsistent state legislation.
                This is not my idea, by the way. Judge William Aslup (pictured below) of the Northern District of California wrote in Robinson v. Bowen, a case in which the plaintiffs sought to preclude Senator John McCain from the 2008 ballot in California:

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                • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                  Originally posted by tank View Post
                  Ill help ya derail this stupid thread buddy!!
                  Not to worry, your incoherent stupidity speaks for itself. :thumbsup



                  "Um yes it does have a raised seal and according to the state of Hawaii is legal and tender when they submitted it."
                  --- Baghdad Tank

                  http://forums.eog.com/showthread.php...=1#post3362164

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                  • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                    Arpaio attacks enemies with questionable evidence

                    by Dr. Conspiracy on APRIL 11, 2012 in JOE ARPAIO
                    Door open for victim lawsuits
                    It’s not just Obama.
                    An Arizona Supreme Court disciplinary panel voted Monday to disbar former Maricopa County Attorney Andrew Thomas. According to TPM Muckraker:
                    With Arpaio’s help, investigators said, Thomas used the powers of his office to target his opponents with criminal investigations. He had some arrested and some charged with crimes. The evidence he and Arpaio used in the process was often questionable. The charges rarely stuck.
                    Arpaio and Thomas are also facing a lawsuit from, among others, retired Superior Court Judge Gary Donahow over bogus criminal charges filed in 2009 reports thePhoenix New Times Blogs.
                    Yesterday, U. S. District judge Neil Wake ruled that “Arpaio, Thomas and their aides weren’t acting as true law officers” in a trumped up RICO suit against county officials, and hence are not immune from lawsuits. The judge said trial by press conference can be defamation reports the Phoenix New Times Blogs:
                    The negative claims about the judges and county employees by Arpaio and Thomas were not “merely opinion,” Wake ruled. Because the alleged facts were often distributed to the public in the form of news releases, and because the releases came from the highest authorities in county law enforcement, “the Court concludes that an average person could see the allegedly defamatory statements as implying facts.”
                    If you’re not up on all the wild stuff on Sheriff Joe, check out the link below.

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                    • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                      Originally posted by Joe Contrarian View Post
                      Not to worry, your incoherent stupidity speaks for itself. :thumbsup



                      "Um yes it does have a raised seal and according to the state of Hawaii is legal and tender when they submitted it."
                      --- Baghdad Tank
                      Say's the tard that has no clue about what he is rambling on about or anyone else for that matter.Tokyo Joe gives us more laughs!!

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                      • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                        Zee big lie

                        by Dr. Conspiracy on APRIL 9, 2012 in BIRTHERS, LOUNGE
                        Mein Kampf:
                        …in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.
                        In this birther business, which group is right and which has fallen for a colossal lie?
                        On the other hand we have Obama born in Hawaii, announcements from the Health Bureau in two competing contemporary Honolulu newspapers, written statements that Obama was born in Honolulu from the State Department archives from the month of his birth. Fast forward to this decade where we have two birth certificates with the backing of the Hawaii Department of Health (under two administrations). We find a total of zero Americans traveling from Kenya to the US by air in the entire year ending June 30, 1962. In some crazy world perhaps the Hawaii Department of Health was co-opted and maybe the State Department faked a 1961 memo in its files. But announcements in microfilm copies of 1961 Honolulu newspapers don’t suddenly appear, and statistical reports of travelers to the US from 1962 don’t change because of some modern conspiracy.
                        It is more than obvious who has been taken in by a colossal lie and who knows the objective truth, but even though the birthers are presented with the objective facts, they, as Hitler predicted, still try to find some other explanation.

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                        • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                          Every birfer lie is exposed here!!

                          SPECIAL REPORT
                          The Cold Case Posse Preliminary Report, ORShurff Joe's Got Nothing New Under the Arizona Sun

                          Was unaware that cut-and-pasting WorldNetDaily articles was a "government investigation." — @daveweigel

                          In August 2011, members of the Surprise Arizona Tea Party petitioned Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Arizona "expressing concern that Obama might not be eligible for Arizona’s presidential ballot." In September, the Sheriff announced that he would look into birther claims that President Obama wasn't born in the United States. He assigned one of his "Cold Case Posses" to investigate. On March 1, 2012, Sheriff Arpaio held a press conference to release the preliminary report of his investigation.TheFogbow.com has examined the report, the claims, and the press conference and concludes that:
                          1. the "evidence" is actually old, debunked rumors with a few new spins thrown in for spice,

                          2. the "investigation" was never treated as an impartial search for evidence,

                          3. the press conference was effectively run by World Net Daily, and

                          4. there's certainly information that an Attorney General should look into, but it's not about the President.
                          We'll now examine each of these conclusions in depth. Additional resources.

                          Birther Hash: Recycled RumorsAdded 3/7: We have examined "A Question of Eligibility: A Law Enforcement Investigation into Barack Obama's Birth Certificate and His Eligibility to be President" (the report of the Cold Case Posse) that was published on February 29, 2012 by Jerome Corsi and Mark Zullo, and the Official Report by Mara Zebest that was distributed at the press conference. TheFogbow.com and others have concluded that almost the entire investigation was based on "evidence" that has been available and debunked for almost a year -- over three years in some cases. The entire investigation of President Obama's birth centered on the PDF of the Long Form Birth Certificate that the White House posted online at the end of April, 2011. There was no investigation of the Short Form Birth Certificate posted in June 2008 or any paper document. Added 3/7: Atlanta Attorney Loren Collins did a side-by-side comparison of the Cold Case Posse Report with Jerome Corsi's book, Where's the Birth Certificate? published May 2011, and several articles from WND.com. He concluded that most of the content was written by Corsi before the Cold Case Posse was even formed.
                          Added 3/7: Doctor Conspiracy's Review of "A Question of Eligibility: A Law Enforcement Investigation into Barack Obama's Birth Certificate and His Eligibility to be President"
                          Claims from the press conference and report:
                          • CLAIM: The paper document of the birth certificate never existed.
                            • FALSE. Reporters at the Press Conference where the Long Form Birth Certificate was released were able to handle the paper document and feel the raised seal. Reporter Savannah Guthrie posted apicture from her cell phone. The press conference.
                            • FALSE. Factcheck.org handled and photographed the Short Form Birth Certificate. Here's their coverage.
                            • FALSE. The Hawaii Department of Health says that LFBC document is authentic and 2 certified paper copies were sent to the President in April, 2011. The copies were given to the President's lawyer who hand-carried to the White House from Hawaii. One copy was scanned and posted to the White House website as well as copied and distributed to the press. One certified copy was passed around at the White House conference.
                            • Added 3/3: "A representative with the Hawaii Attorney General's Office said no one from the Sheriff's Office ever requested to inspect or collect documents related to the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate." AZCentral.com.
                          • CLAIM: The long-form birth certificate was most likely a computer-generated forgery.
                            • Computer Forensics expert Dr. Neal Krawetz, publisher of HackerFactor.com's reports. SFBC: June 2008, August 2008, LFBC: April 2011.
                              • “Before I begin, I need to point out two critical items for this evaluation. First, digital document analysis can detect manipulation, but it cannot determine whether the original subject is authentic. The authenticity can only be determined by the State of Hawaii, and they already said that it is authentic.”
                            • Added 3/7: According to WND Reporter Aaron Klein, they commissioned reports from three credentialed document examiners. WND never published these reports.
                              • Ivan Zatkovich of eComp Consulting has 10 years of experience as an expert witness in state and federal courts, civil and criminal litigation, doing document validation. Mr. Zatkovich has posted his report on the Internet.
                                • His conclusion on April 29, 2011: "All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document."
                              • Jon Berryhill of Berryhill Computer Forensics has provided expert testimony in and been certified by California and Federal courts as an expert in the field of computer crime and computer forensic analysis.
                                • His conclusion on May 1, 2011: for a complete analysis, access to the original document would be best.
                            • Added 3/7: Nathan Goulding, the Chief Technology Officer of The National Review Online said on April 27, 2011: "I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home."
                            • Added 3/7: Jean-Claude Tremblay is an Adobe Certified Expert in Illustrator CS4/CS5 / Indesign CS4/CS5 / Photoshop CS4/CS5 / Acrobat Pro 9/X. He told Fox News on April 29, 2011:
                              • He said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery. “I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.
                              • Tremblay explained that the scanner optical character recognition (OCR) software attempts to translate characters or words in a photograph into text. He said the layers cited by the doubters shows that software at work – and nothing more.
                              • “When you open it in Illustrator it looks like layers, but it doesn’t look like someone built it from scratch. If someone made a fake it wouldn’t look like this,” he said.“Some scanning software is trying to separate the background and the text and splitting element into layers and parts of layers.”
                            • Added 3/7: The PDF file was created using Mac OSX 10.6.7.Quartz PDFContext. Nowhere in the report is this mentioned, and there is no evidence that any Apple products were used in their attempts to recreate the PDF. Here are the properties of the file: (Note: the PDF is stamped with UTC time, but the displayed time shown here is that UTC time in your time zone. The PDF was created early in the morning on the day it was posted, not at 1:09 pm.)
                          • CLAIM: President Obama's Selective Service card was most likely a forgery, revealed by an examination of the postal date stamp on the document.
                            • FALSE. Extensive debunking here.
                            • Doc Conspiracy weighs in.
                            • Added 3/7: We conclude that this evidence was provided to the posse by birthers.
                              • This document and the others in the Cold Possee Report were obtained by Mr. J. Stephen Coffman, in October 2008 under a Freedom of Information Act request. The same document was sent to Kenneth Allen in 2009 under a FOIA request.
                              • This was originally obtained before the 2008 Presidential Election, and during the Bush Administration.
                              • The documents did not come from Obama or his Campaign.
                              • The comparative records shown at the press conference and in the book were available on the web in June 2011. The missing "19" was also mentioned back then.
                            • Added 3/8: The Press Conference and e-book Report repeatedtly refer to PIKA stamps. They meant Pica Stamps, such as the ones pictured to the right. More on this (as well as where to buy them) at Doc Conspiracy's.
                          • CLAIM: Records of Immigration and Naturalization Service cards filled out by airplane passengers arriving on international flights originating outside the United States in the month of August 1961, examined at the National Archives in Washington, D.C., are missing records for the week of President Obama's birth, including the dates Aug. 1, 1961 through Aug. 7, 1961. Added 3/7: This is one of only 2 new never-before-published claims in the report.
                            • MISLEADING: The National Archives has some records online, but NOT for any of 1961. It's not just that week that's missing, it's the entire decade. Added: Corsi hasn't disclosed any evidence from the National Archives to support his claim.
                          • Added 3/3: According to Michael Zullo at the CCP Press conference, the National Archives provided 685 rolls of microfilm containing INS reports of air passengers flying into the USA from overseas.
                            • Jerome Corsi examined the month of August 1961, and the week containg August 1-7 was missing. The report's conclusion?
                              • "What does that translate to us? We don’t know if Stanley Ann Dunham, or Mr. Obama as an infant, was on an airplane coming into the country. We don’t know if he was, we don’t know if he isn’t, andwe cannot make that determination. As a result, we still have to entertain information now that he was possibly born abroad."
                            • The CCP has not provide any further information on this data. We don't know if Corsi examined all entry ports, if other dates were missing, how complete the records are.
                          • Added 3/7:We have obtained a copy of the Cold Case Posse Report, "A Question of Eligibility: A Law Enforcement Investigation into Barack Obama's Birth Certificate and His Eligibility to be President" by Jerome Corsi and Michael Zullo.
                            • From this report, we discover:
                              • “Investigators” were unable to locate “relevant” 1961 flight manifests.
                              • They located INS records that all international passengers completed when flying from a foreign locale into Honolulu.
                              • They were NOT able to examine microfilm records for inbound passengers into New York, and did not mention any other US cities.
                              • Corsi himself, not a member of the Cold Case Posse, examined the Honolulu records. According to his notes, “Two microfilm records were found for August 1961.” One reel was labeled as records from July 28, 1961 through August 7, 1961, and the second reel was labeled as records from August 8, 1961 through August 12, 1961. Those are the only two reels cited as having been examined.
                            • Thus, the claim that Aug. 1-7 was the only week for 1961 missing is FALSE because:
                              • Honolulu was the only city in the entire US they mention having examined at all;
                              • They don’t mention looking FOR records from any months other than August, much less looking AT such records;
                              • Even for August 1961, they flat-out admit that they only found reels for records through August 12. So there appear to be no records for August 13-31 either, and thus they’re lying to say only the first week of August is missing.
                            • Examining only Honolulu arrivals was a useless exercise.
                              • Imigration control forms are filled out at the first USA airport where an overseas flight lands.
                              • In 1961, the only foreign destinations reachable non-stop from east of Honolulu were Vancouver, Canada and a few small places in northern Mexico that would not have had air service to Hawaii. West of Honolulu, Pan-Am was flying non-stop from Tokyo to Honolulu; Quantas and Canadian Pacific were flying in from Sydney with a refueling stop in Fiji.
                              • Flying from Kenya to Honolulu via Tokyo was possible but not practical as it required a number of Asian stops. A more typical trip from Kenya would be Nairobi to Cairo to London to NY or another East Coast city, then LA or San Francisco to Hawaii. It was a grueling multi-day trip.
                            • The information at the press conference DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS what's published in the e-book report. One of the two claims is a lie.
                          • CLAIM: The Hawaii Department of Health has engaged in what Sheriff's investigators believe is a systematic effort to hide from public inspection whatever original 1961 birth records the Hawaii Department of Health may have in their possession.
                            • FALSE. The Hawaii Department of Health has been following Hawaii Statutes to the letter. Hawaii law limits who can access records, who can get copies of records, and what process someone needs to go through to get copies of vital records. President Obama made a special request for his own records, and that was granted.
                            • Nothing said at the Cold Case press conference indicates that the investigation ever tried to work with the Hawaii DOH. Added 3/3: The Arizona Republic contacted the Hawaii AG's office after the press conference. "A representative with the Hawaii Attorney General's Office said no one from the Sheriff's Office ever requested to inspect or collect documents related to the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate."AZCentral.com.
                          • Added 3/3: CLAIM: There is not a single document that proves Mr. Obama's birth in Hawaii.
                            • FALSE. There are two contemporary birth announcements from local Hawaii papers. There are two versions of certified birth certificates (short form 2008 and long form 2011), each of which officials in Hawaii have separately attested as accurate and legitimate. There is the Birth Index from the Hawaii DOH listing Barack Obama's name. There is the Dunham/Obama divorce decree. There is a note in Barack Obama Sr.'s INS file stating that the child was born in Honolulu, HI (FOIA, page 46). There is the school record from Indonesia stating that Barack Obama Jr. was born in Hawaii. There is President Obama's passport.
                          • CLAIM: Barack Obama visited the house of Tom and Mary Ayers, parents of former Weather Underground activist turned education professor Bill Ayers, in the mid-1980s. "A Government official" is the source.
                            • UNKNOWN. This claim first appeared in September, 2009. Here's the Original claim. A mail carrier claims to recall meeting Barack Obama at the Ayers home over 30 years ago. Whatever its veracity, it has nothing to do with President Obama's eligibility or the authenticity of birth certificates.
                          • Added 3/3: CLAIM: "In 2000, the Inspector General issued a report about the rampant problem of birth certificate fraud. And within the opening paragraphs of his report, he states that a birth certificate’s intended purpose was only to register the event of a live birth. Not anything else. And in and of itself, is not creditable information to prove identification or citizenship. There has to be other documentation to be considered. That’s right from the government." Transcript, page 46.
                            • MISLEADING: Here's the report. The context is the use of birth certificates in ID fraud, where people get additional documents or benefits using a falsified or fraudulent birth certificate. The report correctly says that a birth certificate can't be matched to a person without other documentation. But a certified birth certificate remains proof that the information on it matches what's in the original birth record of a state -- particularly when the officials of the state confirm that the information repeatedly. It's proof that the person named was born at the loation listed, on the date listed, to the parents named.
                          Claims From After the Press Conference:
                          • Added 3/8: From WND.com: “During our investigation, we actually were told [that media] had been threatened with FTC investigations. Commentators [had been] threatened with their jobs,” (posse leader Mike) Zullo said. The threats were so intimidating that some individuals quit their positions over safety concerns for their families, he said.”
                            • The FTC is the Federal Trade Commission. We believe that Zullo meant FCC, Federal Communications Commission -- at least that's what the original rumor in 2008 said.
                            • The original rumors were started by conspiracy specialists Douglas Hagmann, founder of the Northeast Intelligence Network and Judi McLeod, managing editor of Canada Free Press, on the Dr. Laurie Roth Show on August 7th, 2009. The events allegedly took place after the election but before the inauguration -- in other words, during the Bush Administration.
                              • "A major TV talk-show host reported that he was ordered not to raise the birth certificate issue or risk losing his job."
                              • "FCC officials threatened to yank broadcasting licenses, break up conglomerates, and make the enactment of the Fairness Doctrine “look mild” in comparison to other consequences."
                              • "In at least one corporate TV headquarters, memos were circulated to all on-air employees not to mention the birth certificate issue, as well as other specific subjects like Obama’s Illinois lawyer’s license, his college records, etc., under both implied and explicit threats."
                            • These rumors have been repeated in this precise form for the past 2.5 years, with no other information surfacing.

                          Searching For What We Already Know About The "Usurper"Added 3/7: The two most vocal proponents of the claim that Obama's LFBC is a forgery are Jerome Corsi and Mara Zebest. The vast majority of the claims and analysis made by the Cold Case Posse were directly copied from work these two individuals published BEFORE the Posse was even formed. Both wrote the majority of the final reports, and both published them under their own names. Both were avidly anti-Obama even before the birth certificate controversy began. If they were that closely involved, how unbiased can the investigation have been?
                          • Jerome Corsi published "Where's the Birth Certificate" on May 17, 2011 -- weeks after the President released his Long Form Birth Certificate. Added 3/3: Corsi's book was published by WND Books.
                          • Jerome Corsi orchestrated the petition to Sheriff Arpaio and actively solicited signatures from Sunrise Tea Party in an Aug 17, 2011 meeting. His expressed intention was to use Sheriff Arpaio's report to spark a Congressional investigation. Video of the meeting.
                            • Corsi said in that meeting: "Every single one of the 20 experts that we presented in WND wrote to me first ... said I want to show you why the document's a forgery ..."
                          • September 16, 2011 -- Arpaio agreed to commission the Cold Case Posse, and Corsi "reports" on it for WND. Corsi makes no mention of his involvement with the Suprise Tea Party or their petition. "The group also gave to Arpaio a binder containing the published reports of 20 experts with established credentials who conducted a forensic examination of the computer PDF file published on the White House website and the photocopies of the Obama birth certificate handed out by the White House to the press during the April 27 press conference."
                          • As reported in WND, Corsi spent 18 hours over a two-day period in October 2011 briefing the Cold Case Posse on a wide-range of evidence regarding Obama's eligibility. Story.
                          • Jerome Corsi investigated passenger lists INS records at the National Archives, and reported his findings to the Cold Case Posse.
                          • Jerome Corsi appeared at the Cold Case Posse press conference on March 1, 2012 to present the findings of the investigation.
                          • John Woodman, author of "Is Barack Obama’s Birth Certificate a Fraud?" sent two messages to the Cold Case Posse offering his expertise and analysis of the Long Form Birth Certificate. He was never contacted. Updated 3/7: Mara Zebest, who authored the report, debated Woodman in January 21, 2012 so was well aware of his work. The debate included Jerome Corsi and was broadcast on Mark Gillar's radio show.
                          • The official report of the Cold Case Posse was prepared by Mara Zebest, who also prepared an "exclusive" analysis for World News Daily in June 2011. The two are remarkably similar.
                          • Mara Zebest is a long-time Birther and PUMA supporter. Examples of her early anti-Obama posts. More examples:
                            • Added 3/7: If we formulate a viral email… let’s have credible information such as a link to the YouTube of the report on how Obama became Senator… that is the seed of doubt that exposes his corruption at the roots. Next the video of how he copies his speeches from others. 7/25/2008 mzebest
                            • Added 3/7: LOL! It’s what I live for… my goal to make him a mockery of the very crowd he seeks for adulation. 7/25/2008 mzebest
                            • Added 3/19: Obama wouldn’t even be allowed to TOUR the White House much less run it... This is NOT ABOUT A BIRTH CERTIFICATE — this is about BEING A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. There’s a huge difference between these two concepts. The importance of the Donofrio case is that even if Obama DOES PROVIDE A BIRTH CERTIFICATE — he is NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. 11/22/2008mzebest
                          • Added 3/3: Corsi and Mark Zullo have published the results of the Cold Case Posse's investigation as an e-book: "A Question of Eligibility: A Law Enforcement Investigation into Barack Obama's Birth Certificate and His Eligibility to be President."
                          • Added 3/3: The videos presented at the press conference are hosted by the Tea Party Power Hour. They appear to be narrated by Mark Gillar, host of a Tea Party internet-radio show which frequently features Birthers as guests, whose website has a banner ad for the Birther Summit, and who has previously posted a YouTube video claiming Obama is mentally ill.

                          The Maricopa County News DailyAdded 3/7: The entire investigation was the brainchild of Jerome Corsi in conjunction with World News Daily. Was this merely an elaborate book launch? As Doctor Conspiracy put it:
                          "The obvious point is that if the Cold Case Posse had come up something not sensational, there would be no book, and if it hadn’t been decided six months ago at the outset of the investigation that the results would attack Obama, WND wouldn’t have told Arpaio about their financial interest."

                          • The official report of the Cold Case Posse was prepared by Mara Zebest, who also prepared an "exclusive" analysis for World News Daily (WND) in June 2011.
                          • WND was privy to the information to be reported at the press conference long before the event. They sent an email linking to an 1100 word article about the press conference at 3:11 EST (1:11 MST), eleven minutes into the event. They extensively quoted Mike Zullo who hadn't yet been introduced when the article was posted.
                          • WND provided live-streaming for the event.
                          • Jerome Corsi, WND reporter, presented a portion of the findings of the investigation.
                          • Added 3/3: The Circle of Hype: "It’s been an amazing journey unraveling this story against all odds,” said Joseph Farah, founder of WND and WND Books, which published both the best-selling hardcover and the e-book followup. “Most all the details of the fraudulent birth certificate are in these books. Arpaio’s team has done an amazing public service corroborating what Corsi and the WND team found long ago against all odds.” Story at WND.
                          • Added 3/7: According to AZfamily.com, "Corsi said he informed Arpaio of his plans to sell the investigation's findings six months ago, at the start of the investigation."

                          Somebody Needs to Watch Their Back: Attorneys General on Lines 2, 3, and 4
                          • Has Corsi violated journalistic ethics by writing about an investigation he not only instigated but participated in?
                          • Did the Cold Case Posse investigate the Social Security information illegaly obtained via E-Verify? Or the Selective Service information illegally obtained by changing President Obama's address through the SS website?
                          • Did Sheriff Arpaio offer to drop the Cold Posse investigation in return for the DOJ dropping their investigation of Arpaio's office?
                          • Is Sheriff Arpaio trying to smear President Obama in retaliation for multiple investigations of the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office?
                          • Did Jerome Corsi write articles smearing enemies of Sheriff Arpaio in return for the Cold Case Posse investigation?
                          • Did WND provide their own funds to the Cold Case Posse for the investigation?
                          • Was WND's campaign to raise contributions for the investigation a form of bribery?
                            • "WorldNetDaily has done its best to buy its preferred result from Arpaio and his "cold case posse." The only question is whether anyone can explain why that's not attempted bribery." Story, Huffington Post
                          • Added 3/3: "Are Corsi and WND also trying to buy a favorable result by writing fawning articles about Arpaio and even erasing him from a story about a lawsuit against his department?" Conwebwatch.com
                          • Added 3/3: Did anyone other than birther conspiracists testify before the posse?
                          • Added 3/3: Where are the proceeds for Corsi and Zullo's e-book going? Updated 3/7: Corsi and Zullo are splitting the proceeds. Neither Arpaio nor the Cold Case Posse are profiting.
                          • Added 3/7: Where did the Selective Service Record come from? Was it legally obtained? Aren't personal records of living persons exempt from FOIA requests? Did they use images or photocopies for their analysis?
                          • Added 3/7: Certain information in the e-book and the Press Conference (such as the search in the INS records for entry into the US) directly contradicts each other. Which is the lie?
                          • Added 3/8: The Cold Case Posse is a 501(c)(3) organization, so contributions are tax-exempt and the CCP is exempt from taxes. Did Zullo and Corsi direct the resources of the Posse to come up with the result they needed in order to profit from the book they intended to write? WND collected contributions on their website for the CCP and kept part of each donation. Are these violations of the 501(c)(3) regulations?
                            • "The organization must not be organized or operated for the benefit of private interests, and no part of a section 501(c)(3) organization's net earnings may inure to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual." IRS Rules.
                          • Added 3/15: Did Jerome Corsi and Mike Zullo violate Arizona's Private Investigator Law? Detailed analysis here.
                            • Zullo and Corsi participated in an investigation into the alleged forgery of a government document attesting to the birthplace of President Obama – with Zullo as the lead, no less – under the auspices of a registered non-profit organization that is (apparently) certified by the IRS as an arm of local government.
                            • Zullo and Corsi published a book based on and including information gathered through that investigation, for which they are receiving a monetary return.
                            • Neither Corsi nor Zullo are licensed private investigators in Arizona.
                            • Arizona state law requires such a license for anyone who conducts investigations into “crime or wrongs against the United States” for “any consideration.”

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                          • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                            Originally posted by tank View Post
                            Say's the tard that has no clue about what he is rambling on about or anyone else for that matter.Tokyo Joe gives us more laughs!!



                            "WHATEVER DR. CONSPIRACY SAYS IS LEGAL AND TENDER...DO NOT FALL FOR THE AMERICAN LIES AND PROPAGANDA"
                            -- Baghdad Tank

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                            • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                              Originally posted by tank View Post
                              Zee big lie

                              by Dr. Conspiracy on APRIL 9, 2012 in BIRTHERS, LOUNGE
                              Mein Kampf:
                              …in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.
                              In this birther business, which group is right and which has fallen for a colossal lie?
                              On the other hand we have Obama born in Hawaii, announcements from the Health Bureau in two competing contemporary Honolulu newspapers, written statements that Obama was born in Honolulu from the State Department archives from the month of his birth. Fast forward to this decade where we have two birth certificates with the backing of the Hawaii Department of Health (under two administrations). We find a total of zero Americans traveling from Kenya to the US by air in the entire year ending June 30, 1962. In some crazy world perhaps the Hawaii Department of Health was co-opted and maybe the State Department faked a 1961 memo in its files. But announcements in microfilm copies of 1961 Honolulu newspapers don’t suddenly appear, and statistical reports of travelers to the US from 1962 don’t change because of some modern conspiracy.
                              It is more than obvious who has been taken in by a colossal lie and who knows the objective truth, but even though the birthers are presented with the objective facts, they, as Hitler predicted, still try to find some other explanation.

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                              • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                                Originally posted by tank View Post
                                In this birther business, which group is right and which has fallen for a colossal lie?
                                On the other hand we have Obama born in Hawaii, announcements from the Health Bureau in two competing contemporary Honolulu newspapers, written statements that Obama was born in Honolulu from the State Department archives from the month of his birth. Fast forward to this decade where we have two birth certificates with the backing of the Hawaii Department of Health (under two administrations). We find a total of zero Americans traveling from Kenya to the US by air in the entire year ending June 30, 1962. In some crazy world perhaps the Hawaii Department of Health was co-opted and maybe the State Department faked a 1961 memo in its files. But announcements in microfilm copies of 1961 Honolulu newspapers don’t suddenly appear, and statistical reports of travelers to the US from 1962 don’t change because of some modern conspiracy.
                                It is more than obvious who has been taken in by a colossal lie and who knows the objective truth, but even though the birthers are presented with the objective facts, they, as Hitler predicted, still try to find some other explanation.
                                Not one single flight from Kenya the whole year!!

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                                • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                                  Originally posted by tank View Post
                                  Not one single flight from Kenya the whole year!!
                                  Is that statement "legal and tender"?

                                  Even Team Kenyan's lawyers aren't dumb enough to submit this Obot "Dr. Conspiracy" crap in a court of law.

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                                  • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                                    Originally posted by tank View Post

                                    Was unaware that cut-and-pasting WorldNetDaily articles was a "government investigation." — @daveweigel


                                    So true!!!!These tards actually think it is!

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                                    • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                                      Originally posted by Joe Contrarian View Post
                                      Is that statement "legal and tender"?

                                      .
                                      You would not know legal and tender if it bit you in the ass.You are a sad birfer without a clue!

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                                      • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                                        Originally posted by tank View Post

                                        comparison of the Cold Case Posse Report with Jerome Corsi's book, Where's the Birth Certificate? published May 2011, and several articles from WND.com. He concluded that most of the content was written by Corsi before the Cold Case Posse was even formed..”
                                        The same thing from Corsi was used by the Posse!!Almost word for word!

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                                        • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                                          Originally posted by tank View Post
                                          You would not know legal and tender if it bit you in the ass.You are a sad birfer without a clue!
                                          Negative.

                                          You have been exposed once again and are in complete meltdown!



                                          "Um yes it does have a raised seal and according to the state of Hawaii is legal and tender when they submitted it."
                                          --- Baghdad Tank

                                          http://forums.eog.com/showthread.php...=1#post3362164
                                          Carry on with your legally meaningless "Dr. Conspiracy" garbage.

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                                          • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                                            Originally posted by Joe Contrarian View Post
                                            Negative.

                                            You have been exposed once again and are in complete meltdown!



                                            Carry on with your legally meaningless "Dr. Conspiracy" garbage.

                                            87 pages , 112 court cases lost and 3 years later Tokyo Joe says this!!

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                                            • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                                              Originally posted by Joe Contrarian View Post
                                              Negative.

                                              You have been exposed once again and are in complete meltdown!
                                              And you still have not proven one single thing!!Not one!!Every fantasy and stupid birfer tale you have used has been exposed for the lie that it is and after 112 court cases that you have lost you are still dumb enough to believe WND and OBRYR!These guys have taken your money and laughed all the way to the bank and you tards still do not get it!You still believe every line of shit they feed you with ZERO PROOF and only the same old tired lies that a retard would buy!Suckers like you deserve no sympathy for being stupid.

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                                              • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                                                Originally posted by tank View Post
                                                The same thing from Corsi was used by the Posse!!Almost word for word!
                                                Since the official Posse report hasn't been released yet, one wonders where these conspiracy kooks come up with this garbage!

                                                Also, although he hasn't played a prominent role, I find it doubly amusing how the desperate conspiracy kooks in their isolated make-believe world believe linking Dr. Corsi somehow discredits the investigation. Remember, this is the guy who "Swiftboated" John Kerry and sunk his campaign. Corsi knows a fraud when he sees it, and as the title of this thread indicates, has been tracking the biggest one of all for quite some time -- nothing wrong with that "agenda".

                                                We're very lucky to have a Patriot like Dr. Corsi on the Good Guy Side...as opposed to Baghdad Tank's amateur commie underwear bloggers.

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                                                • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                                                  Originally posted by Joe Contrarian View Post
                                                  Since the official Posse report hasn't been released yet, one wonders where these conspiracy kooks come up with this garbage!
                                                  Um yes they did at the press conference!Remember??Yes that one.
                                                  The idiotic shit they are adding [same old WND CRAP] will be out soon ...remember??

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                                                  • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                                                    Originally posted by tank View Post
                                                    Um yes they did at the press conference!Remember??Yes that one.
                                                    The idiotic shit they are adding [same old WND CRAP] will be out soon ...remember??
                                                    Um, no I don't remember.

                                                    Anyhoo, stop trying to debate in a neutral setting and stick to felching your commie Obot underwear bloggers behind closed doors, since we all know that is what you do best!



                                                    "Um yes it does have a raised seal and according to the state of Hawaii is legal and tender when they submitted it."
                                                    --- Baghdad Tank

                                                    http://forums.eog.com/showthread.php...=1#post3362164

                                                    Classic!

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                                                    • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                                                      Originally posted by Joe Contrarian View Post
                                                      Also, although he hasn't played a prominent role, I find it doubly amusing how the desperate conspiracy kooks in their isolated make-believe world believe linking Dr. Corsi somehow discredits the investigation. Remember, this is the guy who "Swiftboated" John Kerry and sunk his campaign. Corsi knows a fraud when he sees it, and as the title of this thread indicates, has been tracking the biggest one of all for quite some time -- nothing wrong with that "agenda".
                                                      And like with Kerry he did not prove shit there either!!All accusations with ZERO PROOF!!Can anyone else see a pattern here?
                                                      Corsi is pissed because now he cannot get away with his lies and fraud anymore[ how's book sales been?]Everyone is tired of this lying thief and get's great pleasure in exposing him ...for free!!Plenty of people are doing just that and why do you think he brought Sheriff Joe into the scam?Suckers like you never will figure it out!

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                                                      • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                                                        Originally posted by Joe Contrarian View Post
                                                        Um, no I don't remember.

                                                        Anyhoo, stop trying to debate in a neutral setting and stick to felching your commie Obot underwear bloggers behind closed doors, since we all know that is what you do best!

                                                        Say's the idiot that get's his talking points from WND and OBRYR!!
                                                        Yes the ones that Doc easily exposes and it drives you nuttier because he deals in FACTS and PROVES his points while all poor old Tokyo Joe has is WND and Corsi talking points that get laughed out of court!!

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                                                        • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                                                          Originally posted by Joe Contrarian View Post


                                                          "Um yes it does have a raised seal and according to the state of Hawaii is legal and tender when they submitted it."
                                                          --- Baghdad Tank

                                                          http://forums.eog.com/showthread.php...=1#post3362164

                                                          Classic!

                                                          Are you saying the birth certificate does not have the seal on it??
                                                          You see you say so much stupid shit it is hard to keep track of all your nonsense.Like dealing with a low IQ tard all the time.At least it looks like you have taken your med's!!Good job!

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                                                          • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                                                            Another classic:

                                                            "I said for years that I really wanted Obama to release the long form birth certificate because, and only because, I wanted a copy to hang on my wall as a testament to how wrong the birthers were. I got my wish and a nicely framed full-color long form printout is hanging on the wall in my study. Whether it helped Obama is a question for history, but it’s really cool for me. I also bought the mug and the t-shirt."
                                                            -- Dr. Conspiracy
                                                            This of course is the same forged pdf birth certificate Team Kenyan has now thrown under the famous bus!

                                                            Nice work, Sherlock!

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                                                            • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                                                              Originally posted by tank View Post
                                                              Are you saying the birth certificate does not have the seal on it??[/COLOR]You see you say so much stupid shit it is hard to keep track of all your nonsense.Like dealing with a low IQ tard all the time.At least it looks like you have taken your med's!!Good job!
                                                              Legal tender is a Certification of Live Birth from the State of Hawaii, on security paper, certified by the raised seal of the Hawaii Department of Health and the official signature stamp of the Registrar of Vital Records in Hawaii. It is prima facie evidence that the facts of birth as listed on the document match exactly what's on file in the Vital Records of the State of Hawaii.


                                                              Anymore stupid questions Tokyo Joe?

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                                                              • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                                                                Originally posted by Joe Contrarian View Post
                                                                Another classic:



                                                                This of course is the same pdf birth certificate Team Kenyan has now thrown under the famous bus!

                                                                Nice work, Sherlock!

                                                                Where have they thrown it under the bus???Where???????THEY HAVE NOT!!
                                                                I don't know why I waste my time with a stupid fucking idiot like you.
                                                                For the last time.....his lawyers said a PDF file could not be used in court and the Judge agreed!!Both the Judge and Obama's lawyers said that the birth certificate would be the only LEGAL document that would be acceptable!THAT IS THE LAW!!Where do you get the stupid idea that they are saying it is fake??from OBRYR??show me in the video where this was said!!You have been pawned for the hundredth time.I cannot believe you are this stupid, well no I am not surprised since all you do is come up with more stupid shit every day.

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                                                                • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                                                                  Originally posted by tank View Post
                                                                  Legal tender is a Certification of Live Birth from the State of Hawaii, on security paper, certified by the raised seal of the Hawaii Department of Health and the official signature stamp of the Registrar of Vital Records in Hawaii. It is prima facie evidence that the facts of birth as listed on the document match exactly what's on file in the Vital Records of the State of Hawaii.


                                                                  Anymore stupid questions Tokyo Joe?
                                                                  The seal on the pdf released by the White House, like the rest of a document, is a proven forgery. The seal is not consistent with Hawaii standards.

                                                                  If it had been, Team Kenyan would have submitted it in a court of law as "prima facie evidence", instead of running away from it like they are now.

                                                                  More proof that even Team Kenyan's lawyers think "Dr. Conspiracy" research is lower than whale poop since they never seem to take Dr. Con's "advice" whenever push comes to shove!

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                                                                  • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                                                                    Originally posted by Joe Contrarian View Post
                                                                    Another classic:



                                                                    This of course is the same forged pdf birth certificate Team Kenyan has now thrown under the famous bus!

                                                                    Nice work, Sherlock!

                                                                    Now I can see why you are being so stupid!!
                                                                    PST Joe....the PDF is created FROM the birth certificate!!You don't know the difference!!
                                                                    If you did you would not continue with this stupid shit looking so damn dumb!

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                                                                    • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                                                                      Originally posted by Joe Contrarian View Post
                                                                      The seal on the pdf released by the White House, like the rest of a document, is a proven forgery. The seal is not consistent with Hawaii standards.
                                                                      LIE #1089!!PROVE IT!PROVE IT, PROVE IT, PROVE IT!
                                                                      You have not proven shit liar!Fraud!

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                                                                      • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                                                                        Originally posted by Joe Contrarian View Post
                                                                        If it had been, Team Kenyan would have submitted it in a court of law as "prima facie evidence", instead of running away from it like they are now.
                                                                        It is not even required in New Jersey you idiot!That is why the Judge said if it was the PDF would not be legal but the birth certificate would!For shit's sake go watch the damn video you posted and quit wasting my time with your idiotic stupid shit!
                                                                        Your Honor let me bring the PDF up on the screen for proof okay?

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                                                                        • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                                                                          Originally posted by Joe Contrarian View Post
                                                                          More proof that even Team Kenyan's lawyers think "Dr. Conspiracy" research is lower than whale poop since they never seem to take Dr. Con's "advice" whenever push comes to shove!
                                                                          What kind of stupid babble do we have now?Where has any of his lawyers said it is not legit?

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                                                                          • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                                                                            Originally posted by tank View Post
                                                                            Where have they thrown it under the bus???Where???????THEY HAVE NOT!!
                                                                            As always, Baghdad Tank doesn't know whether to scratch his watch or wind his ass!



                                                                            "Um yes it does have a raised seal and according to the state of Hawaii is legal and tender when they submitted it."
                                                                            --- Baghdad Tank

                                                                            http://forums.eog.com/showthread.php...=1#post3362164

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                                                                            • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                                                                              Originally posted by Joe Contrarian View Post
                                                                              The seal on the pdf released by the White House, like the rest of a document, is a proven forgery. The seal is not consistent with Hawaii standards.
                                                                              And once again we are back to the old...the state of Hawaii is lying and committing fraud shit!The DOH who oversaw this is lying too.

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                                                                              • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                                                                                Originally posted by Joe Contrarian View Post
                                                                                As always, Baghdad Tank doesn't know whether to scratch his watch or wind his ass!



                                                                                "Um yes it does have a raised seal and according to the state of Hawaii is legal and tender when they submitted it."
                                                                                --- Baghdad Tank

                                                                                http://forums.eog.com/showthread.php...=1#post3362164

                                                                                More stupidity on display from Tokyo Joe.

                                                                                I know, I know!!

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                                                                                • Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

                                                                                  Originally posted by Joe Contrarian View Post
                                                                                  As always, Baghdad Tank doesn't know whether to scratch his watch or wind his ass!

                                                                                  Why don't you just go duh,duh,duh cause I can't and don't know shit and cannot prove anything.
                                                                                  Might as well admit to what everyone already knows except for your dumbass.

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